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I’ve been seeing a LOT of diaries about how the Democratic Party has betrayed us and folks will never vote for them again. I’ve also heard (and taken seriously) the arguments that a shutdown would be even worse for the country because we’d lose the courts, the only place we’re winning. I don’t agree with that argument because while, yeah, it would cost people less pain now to avoid the shutdown, agreeing to advance the terrible budget without ANY concessions ahead of time will completely fuck us up in the future. 

It lets Republicans know Schumer is gutless and will refuse to fight. In the next shutdown fight the Republicans will demand far worse because they know Schumer is a total wuss and will back down at the first sign of handwringing conflict. 

So Schumer’s bet is that putting vulnerable people in Medicaid and SNAP (like me) in a position where we’ll have to sacrifice our health and financial security will help the country in the long run. I don’t agree. But if I HAVE to make this sacrifice, I demand Schumer fall on his sword for it. 

If he truly believes the sacrifice of the American people is the only way to protect this country, he needs to go first. He needs to resign in disgrace not just from leadership, but from the Senate. If we do this disgusting capitulation, the Democratic caucus needs to make clear it will never happen again. 

So I’m calling Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey later today and telling them to publicly tell Schumer to resign. Like write an op-ed about it. Newspapers would LOVE that shit. 

I mean, Biden made SUCH a huge blunder attending a debate while he was sick, and assholes like Adam Schiff had NO problem telling him to drop out of the race. This is a FAR bigger blunder so I expect to see any progressive Dems call on Schumer to get the fuck out of town. 

Huge mistakes ARE that unforgivable now, right? That’s the message that was sent with what happened to Joe Biden. I want every Dem Senator to get a shit-ton of calls telling them to publicly say that Chuck Schumer is not meeting the moment and has to go. As an added incentive point out with him gone, they each move up the line a bit to take his place. 

One last thing. All those diaries telling folks to leave the Democratic Party? I was that pissed yesterday too. But the Dem Party is currently all we have in the here and now. To build up a viable third party would take decades, which we don’t have. Our best bet it wresting control of the party away from the weak scaredy assholes like Chuck Schumer. We have to prove it’s not HIS party, it’s fucking OURS. 

Call your Dem Senators. Tell them to say if America needs to sacrifice its safety net to protect its Democracy (which I heartily doubt) then Chuck Schumer can go first. 

Update:

From bilboteach in the comments: Capital Switchboard number which will connect you to the DC office of your Senators: (202) 224-3121. 

You should also call your local offices if you have trouble getting through. 

bilboteach has us covered there too. This site will help you find those numbers: 

www.senate.gov/…

Update 2

Come to think of it, wasn’t Schumer one of those assholes behind the scenes pounding on Biden to drop out after the debate? Because huge mistakes are supposedly so unforgivable? Yeah, this jag-off has this coming. 

Update 3 

Just called Warren and Markey’s offices. Left a message for Warren, talked to a person for Markey. Will probably keep calling Warren again until I get a person although her office doesn’t always answer the phone. 

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The general number is (202) 224-3121 for the Capitol switchboard. Then, they can direct you to their DC number. 

Since the DC numbers will be clogged today in all likelihood, it may make more sense to contact their regional offices in your state. This site will take you to their Senate webpage with that information.

Here are the 10 or so Senators to contact to tell them HELL NO on the CR and cloture. 

Not set in stone but for some of them I doubt there’s any convincing.

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Here’s a thread🧵  with the best knowledge of where our Senators stand on cloture (which is the REAL vote for this).

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Sen. Reed is a solid NO now, as is Sen. Bennet.

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Thanks for this. I always call my local offices. 

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Oregon’s Sen. Merkley states:  I'm voting HELL NO on the disastrous full-year CR written by Republicans to enhance Trump and Musk's power.

I think Wyden is too, but I can’t find the statement about it: he’s generally a dependable Dem.

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Schumer should have at least used the deadline as leverage if he had decided to cave. At least he could have waited until the  Friday 11:59 EST deadline. Instead he caved in a good 36 hours before the deadline, and if you consider that most of the government is not working during the weekend a good three days before real consequences would have begun by a government shutdown. Democrats need to change to a younger leadership.

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He caved preemptively. Before he even needed to. That tells Republicans EVERYTHING going forward. He needs to go. 

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Democrats need to change to a younger leadership

Gee,I always thought young people were just as prone to cowardice as anyone else. 

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Most young Dems are not in long-time Dem leadership roles.

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Young Dems. . .Their problem is that they don’t vote, according to the polls,  because they are too busy.  (42% in 2024 election) We get the government we deserve.  If our government is not to our standard, we are not up to standard.  We have no excuse for our failures.The leadership we get is our fault.

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Now maybe Schumer will understand why he was being laughed at when he was chanting "We will win". How can you win when you won't even fight?

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If he won’t fight, we will. 

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lol.  
 

anyone that doesn’t think Schumer is representing the majority of the conference has lost the thread.  He is just the voice of the caucus. If they didn’t agree with this, they could find a leader that would.  
 

This isn’t just Schumer.  It is a bunch of people beyond those voting yes. These are just the ones currently asked to walk the plank.  
 

Just like last term when Manchin and Sinema were the assigned bad guys. 
 

You have a ton of Senators that likely agree in theory with these actions but have figured out how to hide. 

For instance, Chris Coons, Jack Reed, Mark Warner.  They just happen to be in election cycles so they will pretend to be outraged.  They should all be primaried, like every Democrat running for national office.  They need to get back to basics and learn how talk to people and understand their base. 
 

I don’t understand how Democratic voters can steadily be filled. 

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Which is why we need to call. Withhold our support from incumbents and support primaries. Make our Dem Senators fear US as much as Republicans politicians fear their base. And frankly, we have a lot more to lose. 

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Sure, my point is don’t just call the no votes, the yes votes are also likely enabling the no and they are just splitting votes to give people like Warner and Reed a vote to use in primaries to pretend they are aggressive. 
 

Schatz wouldn’t be a yes if this is not a caucus wide decision, imo. 

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Absolutely. Call every Dem senator. 

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Schumer is my Senator. I just tried calling his Washington office to leave a message — it doesn’t accept voicemail and asks the caller to try again during business hours. I’ll be at work then and can’t. I tried the Melville office and heard a recording, “Main line not available.”

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I tried calling him too. No luck. Slippery character. 

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Sounds like he’s made up his mind and has no interest in hearing opposing views at this point. 

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Picture him with his fingers in his ears going “Nananananananana”  — he can’t hear you so you don’t exist. 

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Well I called my senators. I really am tired of his work as,  “leadership”. 

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Thank you!

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Recc’ed for your comic characters. ;-)

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Yay! Thanks!

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“Rick Wilson Has an URGENT Message for Chuck Schumer: SHUT IT DOWN!” on youtube

What Rick said

Only thing I would have said differently and added is Quinnipiac’s polling data Americans/voters would have BLAMED the GOP for the shutdown by a 21 point spread (Quinnipiac: Trump 22% + GOP 31% = 53%, Dems 32%, no opinion 15%). 

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We probably would have if Schumer had played this differently. Instead he made it HIS mistake. He’s politically incompetent. 

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First Manchin and Sinema. Now Schumer (and as others have pointed out many waiting silently in the wings; taking turns with “progressive” votes and cover behind the overt collaborators.  We need to make sure Democrats in public office are not part of the DEEP GOP STATE in reality.  F*ck the CORPORATE DEMOCRATS and the Donors they rode in on!

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In the time between Nancy Pelosi becoming leader and today, Republicans have had the following leaders: Dennis Hastert, John Boehner, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Patrick McHenry and Mike Johnson. Part of the problem with the Democratic party in Congress is stolid leadership. This happens because the party allows unlimited time in chairmanships. It results in entrenched power that is poor at responding to new problems quickly. And that is very ill suited for the speed of the modern media age. Chuck Schumer, who spent 15 years waking up every morning and checking if Harry Reid was still alive, is the natural end result of that. By the time he got to leadership, he was old, out of touch and a poor fit for the moment (and I'm Schumer's case he forgot why he wanted to be leader in the first place). The listlessness is the result. 

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This is a very good point. 

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And in the Senate Republicans had the following leaders in that time span: Trent Lott, Bill Frist, Mitch McConnell and John Thune. For Ds, just Reid and Schumer. 

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That’s really something to consider, isn’t it? 

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Or maybe his priorities became clearer to him — $$$$

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No one to yell at in my state.   People here are too stupid.

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Thanks for being here. I appreciate you and all Red State Democrats for the fight you put up. 

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That would make a fun guessing game!  (WV, OK, MS, AL, ID, TX?) :)    Unfortunately the list keeps growing.  :)

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Come on, it’s just i demential level chess.  

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Schumer has declared Musk and Trump WANT a shutdown therefore they should deprive them of it. If they wanted a shut down, the Republican Senators simply need to vote down the CR!

Will that happen? I think not. Schumer is weak and afraid. I feel so let down I couldn’t sleep last night.  

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If they wanted a shut down, the Republican Senators simply need to vote down the CR!

This seems kind of self-evident, doesn’t it? Means Schumer’s argument is bullshit. 

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They want a shutdown that they can plausibly blame on the Democrats.  Hence a CR with just enough ick to get the Democrats to vote “No”.  But polls show the public will blame Republicans anyway and history shows being blamed for a shutdown doesn’t actually matter this far out from an election. 

Bottom line is this “CR” is horrible for everyone.  If Republicans authentically want to avoid a shutdown they should propose a clean CR then use the extra time to do the work to come up with a reasonable budget.  “Vote for a pile of ick otherwise we’ll blame you for the shutdown” is just bullying.  They’re going to blame us for everything bad no matter what.  We may as well do what’s right.

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I believe that many of the 40 Democratic senators that “fought” against the budget were complicit in this whole arrangement.

The way it’s set up now, seven senators take some heat and the rest can jump up and down about how they fought the good fight and conceded nothing to Trump  

But if 40 senators vehemently disagreed with the Democratic Senate leader why haven’t they voted him out of office with a vote of 40-7?

Excerpted from the Godfather;

“Did you think that nonsense was going to fool a real Democrat?“ You’re gonna have to answer for Schumer on the beltway.“

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You are right that the numbering is shady. Good point. 

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This is the result of a passive strategy.  You can be outflanked when your opponent doesn’t make the moves you counted on.  Democrats are waiting for Trump to overplay his hand.  That bit is pretty much a given, but the funding fight was predicated on the TEA Party and MAGA being unable to coalesce behind a single vision.  What we didn’t count on was the ability of Trump to threaten his right flank (they wanted steeper cuts) with threats of primaries.

Anyone else noticing that the only way to get Congress to move is through intimidation?  Joe Biden wasn’t able to do that with Manchin and Sinema.  Agent Krasnov’s entire persona is backed by threats and his willingness to ‘go there.’  He had Musk set aside some money for potential primaries and that solved his problem.  Money is another problem, but it feeds into this.  Having an elected seat shouldn’t be a career path and it would be interesting to have a look into certain people’s personal finances.  You shouldn’t be able to become wealthy on a Senate salary.

The ‘FAFO strategy’  isn’t wise.  Democratic leadership needs a makeover.  Keeping the same people around after numerous failures isn’t wise, either.  If we were ever going to do it, now would be the moment.  We don’t need old hands to guide legislation as we aren’t in any position to move it forward.

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What would be the procedure for removing him as  leader?

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This is a good question. I’m asking for Dem Senators to call on him to resign, but is there a way they can get rid of him as Minority leader themselves? 

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These Senators dont even have people answering their phones.  Leaving an email that will never be read is ridiculous.  Same with voice mails.  These “Democrats” are betraying the American people if they vote for cloture on this bill.  The only people they give a damn about are their rich donors.  They are rich and comfortable, and dont give a damn.  There are a few exceptions like Bernie. But if we were expecting our Democratic party legislators and leaders to stop the slide into fascism,  we are about to be sorely disappointed.  Big time.  Not that they didnt disappoint us before, but this one is unforgiveable!

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I got through to a staffer yesterday, can’t remember if it was Klobuchar’s or Smith’s office. The messages I’ve been leaving have become increasingly incensed and pointed. Did thank Smith today for her stance on cloture, and asked both to take it a step beyond that and request Schumer step down (from leadership or his office entirely). Noted that this milquetoast approach is not meeting the moment in the way a fascistic power-grab requires.

Your cynicism is entirely understandable, but I want to at least give them the chance to not disappoint us. There’s no possible harm in pleading our case, in as strong but respectful language as one can bring to bear.

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We were warned - by Dems- during the election that we would be facing this nightmare if the felon got elected. We were told our democracy was on the line. The worst became a reality. Then we see the leader of the Senate Dems saying this is a horrible bill but he's going to help it pass anyway because a shutdown would be worse for our country? He wants to allow Musk to destroy our government, put untold numbers in the unemployment line, terrorize those of us on Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, nutrition assistance but allowing a shutdown would be worse for our country? How? Caving in to the GOP - everytime on everything after some token tough talk - is despicable. I recognize that the main priority of Senators and Reps is to represent the states that sent them to DC, that they think they didn't sign up to fight a civil war but that's exactly what they did. So on the one hand they are there to represent their state, but now Schumer is using the "it's what's best for the country" argument? How is caving to the rotten GOP agenda best for our country? Or is it just best for them? If the GOP has the majority why do the Dems have to bail them out? It appears the Dems do have the power to stop the GOP - why aren't they using it? I want real answers, not talking points or justifications. Our people all across the country are at a boiling point. Either the Dems in Congress step out of their cushy bubble and start fighting for our country and our people or there will be a civil war that will get bloody and nobody wants that. Or have the elite, wealthy Dems in Congress decided to adopt the GOP attitude of 'I've got mine, screw you' mantra of the GOP?

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If Schumer is right that a shutdown would be a gift to Republicans, why aren’t the Republicans doing it themselves? They actually HAVE that power. If they want the shutdown, what do they need Schumer for? 

Alternately Schumer is full of shit or an idiot (or both). 

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I expect to see any progressive Dems call on Schumer to get the fuck out of town.

And when they don’t?

Every progressive Senate member voted for Schumer as Leader. 

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He had never done anything like this before. 

People have said this is another case of Democrats using the “rotating” villain to always capitulate to Republicans, but the more I hear from other people, the less I believe it. Nancy Pelosi’s rage was a pleasant shock to me, and suggests to me this mistake is Schumer’s and no-one else’s. 

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I wrote to my senators (Durbin and Duckworth). Durbin is almost as useless as Schumer, but Duckworth has already made a statement opposing the continuing resolution. So of course my two letters were quite different from one another.

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Thank you!

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