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u/Snedhunterz 10h ago
Biology was invented to abuse trans people
My fucking sides
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u/Infinity_Over_Zero Fiery but Mostly Peaceful™️ 3h ago
Has to be the most conceited, self-important thing I’ve ever heard. That’s like saying the concept of limbs was invented solely and intentionally to spite amputee veterans from the war in Afghanistan.
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u/Tiny-General-3700 13h ago edited 12h ago
"Biology doesn't determine biological sex, feelings do"
Ah yes, clearly scientific concepts that have been around for centuries were invented for the express purpose of oppressing people who believe in some baloney that was cooked up 10 years ago by attention-seeking brats on the internet.
At least this moron got downvoted for subjecting people to this outright nonsense.
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u/Anaeta 5h ago
some baloney that was cooked up 10 years ago by attention-seeking brats on the internet.
Actually, cooked up 60 years ago by an evil pedophile who experimented on children, resulting in their suicides.
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u/Simon-Says69 United States of America 3h ago edited 3h ago
John Money.
This quack has been responsible for so many deaths, not just the original 2 in his early history. That tragic story is worth a read. Fair warning!: NOT for the faint of heart. :-( But it goes much farther than that.
The medical community has failed trans people so far, because so many listen to demented quacks such as this.
There is also a huge monetary motivation. Research into cancer, auto-immune diseases, vaccines, diabetes, etc...
All massively driven by $$$ and political power.Scientific research that does not support the desired result, is axed, or if published, attacked to no end.
Any further studies to be suppressed with extreme prejudice! (which is the REAL problem)This is NOT science. Hopefully, one day, real help will be possible, for the Trans community, and so many others.
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 14h ago
It was discovered long before trans people were a deranged dream in the mind of a madman
These retards can never tell me what a male human and a male fly have in common that isn't gametes
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u/Desurfaced 14h ago
I mean, it's really bad when matt walsh can make an hur long movie about people not being able to answer the question "what is a woman" without using cyclical definitions. Its fucking nuts dude
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u/Anaeta 5h ago
The best part was when he went to some random tribe in Africa, asked them the question, and the guy just started miming breasts. Without all the retarded gender ideology, people don't even need a shared language to clearly explain what a woman is.
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u/mbarland Priest of The Church of the Current Thing™℠®© 2h ago
The best part for me was the trans surgeon explaining how removing someone's perfectly fine limb because they want to be an amputee is a mental condition, but removing genitalia is totally different.
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 12h ago
but I can't side with conservatives who absolutely have no understanding of the subject either, as an independent.
I understand the subject very well
tell me what a male human and a male fly have in common that isn't gametes
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 11h ago
answer the question, "biologist". It's an easy one
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u/TheSuperBlindMan 11h ago
Asswipe, where in the fuck did I say anything about a human and a fly being the same thing? How about you answer that fucking question and quit putting words into my mouth
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 11h ago
They never have an answer to this question and it's hilarious. You will never be a real biologist
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u/Flyingsheep___ 11h ago
The second reality seeps in, it all falls apart.
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 10h ago
"What if...? No... But what if...? No that doesn't work either. You are telling me biologists already worked this out or something?!"
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u/TheSuperBlindMan 11h ago
Answer my question, does every human start out in the womb as female?
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u/-Dry-Gulch-Slim- 9h ago
No, lmao. They don't. This is a complete misunderstanding of mammalian embryonic development. We start out with both male and female reproductive tracts (Wolffian ducts and Müllerian ducts). One or the other is eliminated during development but for the first 6 weeks embryos are functionally identical.
People do tend to say being female is "default" in that a functioning sry gene is required to differentiate towards male while differentiating towards female is a "passive" process (only requiring the lack of sry) but even that isn't totally true.
You are incorrect.
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 11h ago
I can't answer that question without defining female genius
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u/The_Lemonjello 8h ago
XX
XY
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 7h ago
Male, Female, Male
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u/Moms-milkers 5h ago
damn. that was easy. lol
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 5h ago edited 1h ago
1 or more Y chromosomes (or SRY genes) = male
everything else =female
edit: Think of it like genders in spanish. If you have one guy in a group you use the masculine
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u/The_Lemonjello 6h ago
No, I didn't. We're talking about transgender, not literal mutants whose DNA is so messed up they are a different classification entirely.
One has nothing to do with the other.
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u/Solarwinds-123 3h ago
There has been well documented evidence of people who are intersex having the wrong John Natalia removed at birth, and then later finding out that they are the opposite sex of what they originally thought.
Poor John.
But the existence of a handful of mistakes does not invalidate the concept. People with DSD generally fit well into male or female.
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u/Infinity_Over_Zero Fiery but Mostly Peaceful™️ 3h ago
Tbh John Natalia is a good name. Maybe Jen Natalia would be better. The equivalent of calling and asking for “Ben Dover” or “Mike Hunt”
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u/Infinity_Over_Zero Fiery but Mostly Peaceful™️ 3h ago
Fact is, we do all start out in the womb as female
I can’t side with conservatives who absolutely have no understanding of the subject
Aside from how irrelevant it is what “sex” you “start out as” in the womb before your fingers have even developed, I love the irony of these two statements being said by the same person in the same paragraph.
Sorry. You’re being dunked on enough as is. It was just too hard for me to ignore. Take your L on this one and just bounce my dude
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 2h ago
I still see none of you Neanderthals have ever bothered to try and address my questions
https://old.reddit.com/r/ShitPoliticsSays/comments/1kby2ue/bro_what/mpzo8r0/
https://old.reddit.com/r/ShitPoliticsSays/comments/1kby2ue/bro_what/mpz5eit/?context=3
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u/Rush_Is_Right 2h ago
John Natalia
Is this a super odd auto correct or is that what you call genitalia?
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u/CypriotGreek 9h ago
Why the hell do these people focus on literally the biggest outliers and medical extremes to push their point? Yeah intersex people technically exist, it may be nearly one in 1 million people, and most of the time these people are suffering from a medical issue, but yeah because these people exist male and female suddenly don’t exist.
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u/Realityiswack 3h ago
It’s just the left hijacking a minority group with the goal of dividing society and creating conflict, the usual resulting “solution” being some sort of political action. For being“anti-fascist” they sure do use a lot of fascist tactics.
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u/BeardRex 3h ago
And even with "intersex" conditions, they are all blatantly linked to a specific sex. Scientists aren't confused about what sex a person with an intersex condition is. The debate is over what is the best way for them to go on in life.
I'd honestly hate to be an intersex person with the current state of trans activism. Many would go well under the radar before all this.
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u/Simon-Says69 United States of America 2h ago
It's most likely some FBI / Shareblue account just posting their copypaste bullshit.
They have huge numbers of sockpuppet accounts, and voting bot swarms.
If the bots and propagandists lost their funding, reddit would lose most of their traffic.
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u/VastlyVainVanity 12h ago
I guess cancer is just a made up thing, since doctors can misdiagnose people with it, huh? lol. What a dumbass argument.
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u/TheArsenal7 5h ago
That is a moderator btw which about sums up this website
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u/Desurfaced 5h ago
I know that's why I was talking shit to them. Lmao. I wonder how big of a dopamine rush they get from banning people
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u/Graybealz If you get posted here, you're fucking duuuuuummmb. 4h ago
Quite the list of subs they mod too.
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u/Kurtac 6h ago
Then: Sex and Gender are not the same.
Now: Sex assignment at birth can be wrong. Sex and Gender are the same.
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u/BeardRex 3h ago
They still say the first part but it's a motte and bailey argument. They can pick when it's advantageous to retreat to the more defensible position.
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u/Kitsune257 11h ago
Do these people ever stop to consider that maybe, just maybe, it’s something in their head that’s wrong and not their whole body?
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u/The_Lemonjello 8h ago
No. That is, in fact, what makes mental illness so hard to treat: the patient is incapable of recognizing they are ill.
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u/moose_king88 4h ago
Doctor doesn't look hard enough and logs incorrect gender on birth certificate
Parents look at childs genitals when changing diaper and notice it's wrong
Parents: oh well I guess we'll just roll with it for the rest of your life hyuck hyuck
What a short sighted argument from our favorite mentally ill soccer nazi
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u/CaptainDouchington 4h ago
Trans people injecting themselves into historical events is the new "we was kings"
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u/No_Assistant_3202 4h ago
This reminds me of when I read some random post claiming ‘Western Science is part of the Patriarchy’.
I thought to myself, ‘well I guess I support the Patriarchy now.’
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u/AbeBaconKingFroman The martyrs of history were not fools. 4h ago
Somebody should tell that guy he'll never be a woman.
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u/reggaetony88 4h ago
This should be a PSA against letting children on this website. You'll develop reddit brain and become a miserable lunatic with stunted mental development.
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u/Ed_Radley 3h ago
Guys, we need to not be insensitive to the like 0.2% of the population whose sex chromosomes don’t necessarily match what they look like to the public… and the 5% of the population trend surfing being the opposite gender so they can get more attention.
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u/underdabridge 4h ago
I was watching a video on ChatGPT and Zeno's paradox this morning that made me thing "this is like the 'What is a woman' discussion." Zeno's paradox notwithstanding, people can run places and clap their hands. Likewise, not withstanding complexities and intersex deviations, we all are really perfectly clear on what a woman is.
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u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla 1h ago
These idiots don't realize that exceptions to a rule do not change the role. You can't touch the soccer ball with your hands when playing, unless you're the goalie. That doesn't mean that the "no hands" rule doesn't exist. It just means that there is an exception to the rule for a small percentage of each team.
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u/Liedvogel 1h ago
"It's not based on what you are biologically, just what biological parts you have" LOL.
What I was a know is how gender, a concept invented long before the development of the trans movement, was designed to oppress it?
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u/Wesdawg1241 3m ago
"Talk to intersex people" yeah good luck with that, they're literally about 18 in 1000 people, likely even fewer.
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u/Lightforged_Paladin 11h ago
You're talking about something that's like .0001% of cases, though. Like if I say "It is biological reality that human beings have 10 digits on their hands" and people come out of the woodwork to tell me "ackthually there are people born with more/less than 10 bigot".
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u/Snedhunterz 10h ago
At some point their brains switched from ‘the exception proves the rule’ to ‘the exception is the rule’
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 7h ago
Nope, everyone makes either sperm or egg. The rest is appearances
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u/TheSuperBlindMan 1h ago
Not everyone has has dick and balls, but the brain pattern of someone with a pussy, but I don't expect the knuckle dragging right to understand that.
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 1h ago
Brains don't factor into it. You will never be a real biologist or woman
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u/TheSuperBlindMan 1h ago
Is that seriously all you care about? You only care about what dangles between someone's legs? You literally prove the OP correct. All you need are all fucksticks care about is whether someone has a dick and balls, or a pussy, but you don't care about the other externalities like you know, different chromosomes outside of XX and XY chromosomes, or someone who has dick and balls, but has the brain patterns of someone with a pussy.
The problem with people like you is that you refuse to understand anything outside of what that bronze aged book of bullshit tells you to believe. Us people who actually believe in science, and understanding evidence outside of what is written in outdated books written by religious nut jobs.
Also, you never addressed my statements and questions about whether gay people exist, because you obviously don't believe that trans people exist, even though there is mounting evidence of such.
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u/TayIJolson You will never be a real woman 1h ago
Is that seriously all you care about?
Instinct is a powerful thing. Men are evolved to spot fakes
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u/WavelandAvenue 5h ago
Humans have two legs and two arms. There certainly a tiny percentage of humans who are born with one leg or one arm. This does not change the fact that humans have two arms and two legs.
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u/Magehunter_Skassi 14h ago edited 13h ago
These people get a perverse thrill out of telling the most bald-faced lie to you and daring you to contradict it, so they can punish you for insubordination via HR/moderation/speech laws, etc.
Reddit and Bluesky are the only places they can still get away with that, since leftism is being dismantled IRL and on most social media platforms.