If I buy a CE, it's because I think the upgrades are worth the extra money.
Since rarity doesn't factor much into the value equation for me, I applaud JJP's decision to offer an unlimited number of the CE within a time frame, so long as it's enough to see/play the game first.

I remember the moment you decided to buy one. It was definitely an “oh man, this is great” moment. Champ multiball at TPF.

Just the milestones were amazing to watch. But yeah...when that one guy hit champ multiball, my phone came out. I'm buying this game and I'm sure even if I'm a little underwhelmed, the grandkids will love it.

The speculation on CE's at this moment is silly. Is it open CE ordering for 3 years? for 2 months? 2 weeks? There is a big difference so just chill a few more days until we get official word. However, if your take is "I don't want it because anyone who wants it can buy it" then that's a bad take. If you're concern about losing money on a NIB, a valid concern and almost a certainty regardless of what JJP does.

It's also a very real possibility that having "unlimited" CEs could result in less sold than a limited number.

I don’t think JJP ever hurts for the wow factor. Games are beautiful always. It’s the playability that’s the sticking point usually for them.

CEs should have obvious value besides some perceived rarity. For instance, are they the only ones that will be gold-plated? That’s a pretty compelling argument for upgrading.

Seems dirty.

Yes

Gold plated like the snitch and I’m waaay in!

Could they just reskin pirates with potter theme?
The ship is quidditch game?

This hat motorized will be the topper.

I was still holding out slight hope for a wide-body but judging by the spacing between the coin door, bolt and shooter that’s definitely a standard cabinet. (If that’s a real pic)

JJP could limit CE's to 250, charge 25K for them, sell out and make more profit than they would selling 1000 of the same machine for 15K. But why would they want to? Everyone that has been saving up for a CE in the 15K range would be furious that JJP catered to the wealthiest of customers' desire for exclusivity and secondary market value. Potential buyers at 15K could be so disgusted they would not only refuse to buy a HP at any trim level, but would never be a customer of JJP again. JJP would risk losing way more money in the long run from that kind of ill will than they would make in one-time profit. They and every other pinball manufacturer wants to put their toys in as many homes, arcades, bars and restaurants as they possibly can. If JJP can sell 1384 CE's at 15K and make 1384 customers and their families happy as can be, why would they do anything else? And if they have two other trims at more affordable prices that have the same basic toys, mechs and gameplay, making thousands of other people and locations happy as can be, it seems to me they've got their priorities straight, and are doing this the right way.

EJ is the best game I have owned and I have owned Godzilla, Deadpool, TBL, most JJPs. Right now it’s a tie between EJ and Pulp Fiction in our house. Two completely different games , each one made by a Ritchie brother and they are both a blast to flip. Harry Potter is a grail theme for our family and I am in for a CE.

Might want to check your math there.

That rumored $10K for the entry level makes me think this is actually going to be Fantastic Beasts.....

Really? So it was LSOG that offered it? I had no idea how to search it… and it was so long ago that it started to file itself under “did I dream that?” mentally.

I don’t see it anymore on their website. Was the $5 a guaranteed spot for the top tiered model?

Really? Assume for fun they make 1K pure profit per CE priced at 15K.
1384 x 1000 = 1,384,000
250 x 11,000 = 2,750,000
They'd make more on the limited run, but it wouldn't be worth it.

Seems more like a $5 video rental to me.

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My opinion... I cool with uncapped CE's if they don't raise the price.

I was in on CE, but if all 3 trims have the same game features I dont know that there will be 3k difference from LE to CE. Judging by Avatar and EJ I dont see 3k there. Especially if they arent limited. It would have to be one hell of a topper to justify it...

Come now - it’s called collecting arbitrary collectability. It’s like buying coins from the Franklin Mint back in the 1980s.

Excited for all you potter fans to get your dream pin!
Was pondering jumping in on this one since it's probably a better investment than the stock market.

Unfortunately I'm just not a huge fan of Eric's games or Keith's rules so I'm going to wait and try and play it first. Maybe this title will end up shaking a reasonably priced EJ in the meantime to keep me occupied.

250 CE’s at $25k = $6,250,000.00
1000 CE’s at $15k = $15,000,00.00

Yep math checks out.

Has anyone heard about the difference between the models other than the prices? Also, will this game be based on Hogwarts role play without characters from the books/ movies or will it be based on a the books/movies with all characters included?

Maths.

Damn zeros get me too.

You're talking about revenue. Not profit. My comment was about profit. Read it again.

You're talking about revenue. Not profit. My comment was about profit. Read it again.

Pinbarclay, BallyKISS1978 and Titanpenguin if it costs JJP 14K (operating expenses, cost of goods, taxes, etc) to make a 15K machine, then they are only left with 1K profit per machine.
Of that 15,000,000 revenue for those 1,000 units, they'd clear 1,000,000 in profit.
If they sold 250 machines at 25K each, those 250 machines still only cost 14K each to make. They would only bring in 6,250,000 in revenue, but would clear 2,750,000 in profit. My comment was related to profit. They could make more with a limited release, but it would do more damage to their business in the long run imho. Feel free to disagree. I'm not mad at differing opinions.

You’re talking about profit-per-machine it sounds like, which is of little interest here. A business has a new product. They want to maximize revenue from that launch.

They make more with the bigger run, period.

FYI, profits on even a bottom-of-the-barrel stern pro are over $1k per unit wholesale. You’re having a laugh if you think a $15k CE only nets JJP $1k.

And I’m talking he missed a zero. Read it again.

I don’t need to waste any more time squinting to understand his monkey math.

Haha my bad Titan. I thought you were parroting his response. My whole point in my paragraph above was related to my approval of unlimited CE's at 15K. Making the most customers happy and gaining exposure in the long run is more important than profit in the short term. God I can't wait for this game!!!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you order day 1 and your pin takes a year to arrive, you can be paying more $$ than when you signed up if shit hits the fan? So the 10k arcade editions can end up with price bumps as they build. I think this has happened before. Either way happy to hear about this Arcade Edition. Best pin news I’ve had in awhile.

Your invoice is your contract..if it says the price and deposit then that’s the agreement absent any fine print…

With tariffs looming my guess is all manufacturers are going to have ‘fine print’, if they don’t already.