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America Edition

Dimensions EOS
https://x.com/Muvluv_DMS/status/1870016295539822814

>Muv-Luv Tactics Crowdfund Complete
>Target goal was not reached but the game will still be made with what was earned
>All information about the game on the crowdfund page
https://camp-fire.jp/projects/794591/view#menu
>Website
https://www.fuzz.co.jp/app/muvtac/
OST samples and character images + some story stuff on the campfire page

>Kiminozo on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1777440/Kimi_ga_Nozomu_Eien_Enhanced_Edition/

>Archives
muv-luv.naruhodo.workers.dev/0:/
https://mega.nz/folder/fIhTUKSA#nTRrKtXDoekouDG03HJQIw

>Wishlist Rumbling Hearts
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1777440

>Teito Moyu on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2630300

>Magazine
https://e-hentai.org/g/2542863/65080fd76a/
https://e-hentai.org/g/2542867/5fbeea10c3/
https://e-hentai.org/g/2735417/07efcfe577/
https://e-hentai.org/g/3018137/075492061c/

>Muv-Luv Alternative Manga
1-16:https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20911206/#q20938263
17:https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21869980/#q21894915

>Strike Frontiers assets
https://mega.nz/folder/9ddhFITD#6BVWt6BLlMsEqi2fICgTfw

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>>23111027
No, he should read it in Japanese, not some EOP parody lol
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Paul wuz here.
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>>23112596 (OP)
>Muv-Luv Tactics Crowdfund Complete
>Target goal was not reached but the game will still be made with what was earned
I can't believe Muv-Luv Tactics will be the final Muv-Luv thing...
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I was following the guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3357103437
for the endings but during Your Desire the choice on August 10th that leads you to Akane's ending doesn't show up, the game is fundamentally broken and basically I feel ripped off
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>>23113297
did you install the russian's patch? It broke at least a few things for me.
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>>23113745
>>23113297
It was the guide that was wrong, not the game. I went back, made a choice that was different from the guide and then the choice that was missing before came up.
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>>23112854
heh
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The weak should fear the strong
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We all hate Chizuru here
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Tactics already got delayed
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There never was a Tactics.
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Maybe the Tactics was the friends we made along the way.
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>>23116743
Her shower sex scene in UL was hot though
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>"It's just a word, they say it all the time. It means buddy, right?"
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Happy 19th anniversary to Alternative's release
24/2/2006
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>>23118261
Today is also my birthday! Hooray for suffering!
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One of you backed tactics, what've they given updates about so far?
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>>23118412
Something something demo out in march
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>>23118427
However! Newest update reveals this:

>We would like to take a little more time to properly "integrate" the game and the story, and for that we would like to request an extension to the development period.
>In order to realize this wish, we would like to extend the development period by three months.
>Therefore, we would like to change the shipping date of the game that was planned as a reward for crowdfunding from the end of March 2025 to the end of June 2025 .
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Get in, nerd. We're going to watch MENUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNGVHxn1V4 [Embed]
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>>23118485
I literally couldn't give less of a shit, kouki
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>>23118485
Never trust purples.
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>>23118485
Holy fuck even the music is Taimanin.
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>>23118485
This isn't Muv-Luv.
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>>23119150
It's what Muv Luv is now and will become, old man.
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>>23119150
Please understand, visual novels don't make enough money to please the board of directors
This won't either obviously
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Did Kouki hit a gypsy with one of his cars or something?
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>>23119708
no, he's always been a complete retard making retard decisions, but before he always ended up being lucky. But his luck ran out so now he's just retarded.
>Get over a million dollars kickstarter for a trilogy translation
>Actually end up losing money because you switched management and promised to produce and ship way too many physical goods all across the planet, plus start development on shit like android and ios ports they will never actually end up releasing
>Sell everything to a big multimedia company that got interested due to the million dollar kickstarter, tell yourself that this will propel muv luv to the next stage (they told you they'll make an anime!)
>Agree to fire all the voice actors and replace them with new ones because muv luv is ready for its next stage and will be producing new entries for another 20 years!
>before the anime even airs japanese fans are upset at the streaming service its tied to, proceed to call everyone that doesn't want to pay the sub a fake fan on your stream
>multimedia company adds more streaming services as a response to fan feedback
>Anime is so bad you complain about it for like 30 minutes on your stream and tell everyone to message multimedia company about it
>S2 airs and is more action focused, rant on your stream about how you like it and that it's shame more people haven't seen it because of S1
>Anime ends without the story even ending, tell everyone to never give up hope that multimedia company will finish it one day
>Former square enix games are making an action game for you, tell them it's a good thing the game isn't as complicated as Armored Core because those games filtered you on ps1 and its easier to grab a new audience this way, plus they can always make it more complex with patches later!
>Game is a complete failure and has to be patched into being pure single player
>Invite some random twitter troll to your anniversary event just because he insulted strike frontier on twitter
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>>23119774
>Multimedia company likes his demo so much they lend him the IP and development money to make it real, a decision that would lead to millions of dollar being lost, the entire company trying to put out a massive fire for a year, permanent damage to the IP, and TWO shutdowns
>Give multiple talks over the years about how NFTs are actually very cool and the future because multimedia company told you they are
>Get angry at people that want your kiminozo kickstarter to also offer an adult version, proceed to argue with them on discord, go as far as to flame one of your trilogy translators on stream even though he hasn't been involved with your for many years, just because random discord users keep asking what happened to his translation.
>Plus, there will probably be an """unofficial""" patch anyway, you have to understand multimedia company won't let us announce stuff like this ;) (there won't be)
>decide the best way to heal your damaged IP is to release yet another paid lore magazine, only this time it will be monthly!
>Instantly announce multimedia company told you they're not paying for a monthly magazine, so now it will release whenever (there have only been 4 issues total)
>Now that your IP is very close to being vaulted by multimedia company, you decide the best way to save it is to attach gameplay systems to every planned release because you played 13 sentinels and liked it. You'll try this out with an SRPG game.
>And what better developer could you ask for than the former square enix devs! Again! After all, they are former square enix devs. They've never fucked up a muv luv game before or anything.
>Oh Multimedia company still doesn't want to give us enough money, let's have another kickstarter and take any money we can get.
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>>23119775
>Kickstarter doesn't reach its goal, once again get mad and call people fake fans, then edit all your posts and argue that you didn't mean it that way. Everything will be fine with the money the game got, it was almost complete anyway. Plus, if its missing units or complexity, they can always sell those as DLCs later!
>game gets delayed by 3 months, at least (you are here)

You can see how 80% of this shit would have worked out incredibly great if his luck meter was still at 300% like it used to be, but he also easily could just stop acting like it still is and actually make smart calculated decisions. Don't even bring up the argument about him having less power now that Avex is in charge, because even with his reduced power he personally caused the giant clustefuck that was immortals/dimensions just because he wanted to win a twitter argument instead of calming down.
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>>23119781
You're not even counting the string of disasters and mismanagement that came after the trilogy, Miyata Sou's tracing fucking over Total Eclipse, or Schwarzesmarken just fucking bombing. Honestly it's been on life support since 2016, the Kickstarter just kept it going a few years longer.
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I still remember Kouki promising that MLA has multiple routes rather Sumika alone. I'll never forget it out of grudge.
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Really sucks joining the Muv-Luv fandom last year, only for it to be on it's death bed and scrounging with mediocre products, because the people behind it fucked up.

Really sours future expectations. Maybe a company who can actually do something with the IP gets it, but if the damage to the IP is severe enough, it's probably just the end.
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>>23119981
As a schwarzenigger, it wasn't really any better 8 years ago either.
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>>23119774
>>Agree to fire all the voice actors and replace them with new ones because muv luv is ready for its next stage and will be producing new entries for another 20 years!
This isn't really fair criticism and they did technically release phone ports if you count DMS.
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All the other big visual novel franchises are dead too (except fate), why is it for muv luv in particular that the creators keep coercing the fanbase into funding more and more niche projects with zero chances of success. Not a single real entry in 10 years and they're talking about adding gameplay to the three! announced visual novel sequels MOTHERFUCKER YOU CAN'T EVEN MAKE A DECENT GAME ON ITS OWN WHY ARE YOU INCREASING THE SCOPE WHEN YOU ALREADY CAN'T GET FUNDING FOR A NORMAL VN
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>>23120086
It's either do this or let it just be dead forever.
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>>23120043
oh, you mean the japan only shut down gacha game that will get no offline version? I'm sure that makes all the kickstarter backers really happy.
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>>23120104
no but they might get it in english in another 10 years
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Love imoutos
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>>23122039
Some imoutos are amazing, aren't they?
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>>23122039
I'll take this one then.
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Im too late to the party , am I not?
Finished Extra a few days ago.
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>>23122773
Yes in some respects but Muv-Luv is required reading in any VN focused space. "Being late" shouldn't detract from your enjoyment, either.
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>>23122773
What did you think anon? Who was your fav?
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>>23122773
With all due respect, I think you should steer well clear of this place until you have finished the entire trilogy. There are unmarked spoilers for Africa everywhere, and you deserve the best possible experience of reading the VN.
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>>23122773
leave here until you're done with Alternative
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>>23118485
I can see the 13 Sentinels in this lol. Not that its a bad thing
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>>23122798
depends. it's not necessary in subahibi/umineko-only communities (probably the largest group off this site). otherwise yeah it's like a core necessary plotge when talking to people who actually care about VNs
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>>23123243
I have a dumb question:

Are there any Mubu Rabu VN that have a furigana patch or do I need to set up a text extractor to do that?
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Welp, I'm done with everything in the main game, only Another Episode+ collection left.
I have to say I've had a good time with Kiminozo, even more than I did with Extra or Unlimited.
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>>23123330
Even more than extra and unlimited? I got more and more sick of Takayuki as things went on.

There is an anime too. It combines aspects from each of the routes for the first 14 ep season. The second season is the Haruka version of chapter 3 from the VN IIRC.
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>>23123361
Takayuki was a real human bean and his struggles felt very true to life. Takeru's romcom was more of a cartoon, for lack of a better word.
Obviously Alternative still comes out far above anything else.
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>>23118485
bruh how do you keep getting this unlisted videos?
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>>23123378
I supported the campaign :D
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>>23123382
These niggas so retarded. Release that shit to the public so it builds hype and gains more backers. On fanum grave these guys stupid
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I wonder if we'll ever get official 3 sizes for all the Muvluv girls.
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>>23124468
What are the unofficial pixel hunting autism sizes?
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>>23124534
There was that one twitter post that guesstimated Yui's bust size. 97cm H-cup buy their guess.
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Tarisa
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>>23124542
That would make Cryska and Stella ludicrously busty by comparison.

>>23125888
Why is she wearing a pink French Fortified Suit?
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i think im done
whats another series thats about the indomitable human spirit?
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>>23126347
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann?
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>>23126276
because its ai
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>>23126276
So perfection.
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>>23119981
This is a preferrable end, compared to what happened to Fate.
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>>23126917
Mainstream success and buckets of cash is worse than a mismanaged, dead franchise? What are you smoking?
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You think Muv Luv will get a "remake" soon. I say "remake" but it's going to be one of those remake where it's a stealth sequel and it's just another loop where Takeru fucks up so badly and brings the BETAs to the extraverse?
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>>23126940
The entire OG Fate canon was thrown out the window in favor of FGO's version. 99% of the people who played the game did not play the original visual novel and are, by definition, secondaries.
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>>23126347
getter robo
>>23126940
He's right. An obscure death is better than having fate's popularity. kind of glad the average new vn readers just circlejerk umineko (garbage) and subahibi (good) now. Muv-Luv is too mid-00s otaku for those people and even if the previously mentioned two have elements of that, it can be overlooked. For ML it's ingrained down to the core
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Is it really appropriate to be this chuuni in a dying world fighting a losing war against an invincible enemy?
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>>23128616
>Let's just put a guy who's literally just Lelouch from Code Geass in Muv-Luv

And people complain about me rewriting Mai Otome to be more like Muv-Luv
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>>23112596 (OP)
>https://www.reddit.com/r/MuvLuv/comments/1ivxmhu/map_for_total_eclipse/
A good and detailed map of the Soviet Union in ML, made by one of the fans and its description at the link above.

Enjoy ;)
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Why didn't they try defending key locations with really big trenches that the BETA can't climb out of?
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>>23129994
It would not be difficult for BETA to dig a tunnel even deeper than these trenches.
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>>23130009
Then use oil drilling equipment to drill a line of deep boreholes behind the trench. If the BETA start tunneling, then drop nukes down the borehole.
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>>23129994
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>>23130049
They should have just made low altitude fixed wing suicide drones to SEAD-swarm laser classes with.
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They're having another one of those political whazzits on the Muv-Luv subreddit.

There's no escaping those things
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>>23131126
And we haven't had a million of them on here down the years? If that twitter link had been posted here first, most likely nothing would've happened because this place is deserted and dead, but back in the day there would have been a cool 100+ posts of people saying the exact same shit.
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Don't have anyone else to say this to, so I just want to scream into the void that I got filtered. I've just finished Sumika route in Extra; I was dying from boredom the entire time. I give up, I cannot be arsed to read romcomshit again (Meiya) to get to Unlimited. Fuck nips for their obsession with HS, two nukes weren't enough.
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>>23131357
>got filtered by the romcom
you will never know the peak and fall
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>>23131357
ok faggot, bye
>>23131134
Half the people here probably saw that libtard post when it originally got posted. I see you all reposting images from here
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>>23131512
I'm here, too. Bitch.
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>>23131357
I wonder what has to happen to someone to make them this jaded
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>>23131357
two nukes wasn't enough, thirty should have been dropped on whatever shithole you're from you worthless faggot
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>>23131126
Checked it out, best post of the month was Christmas slampig Meiya
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too big. bet that was draw by either a south american or SEAnigger
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epic raid
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>>23130009
Yeah but like
What if we dig even deeper than the BETA?
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>>23132071
The BETA avoid volcanic regions, so obviously you will eventually dig deep enough to deter them
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This thread is shit.
I'm gonna beat German girls for this.
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>>23131126
Kouki is Boomer-tier in politics. nothing to do a politics rodeo about.

>>23131357
dont worry, just go ahead to Unlimited, then.
if you felt that something was missing, you always come back.
>Fuck nips for their obsession with HS
that's because its their last time they will be with companions, and if lucky, happiness...
the fuel of nostalgia...
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>>23130049
Well, lets get started.
Mankind , for some reason, does NOT have an offensive weapon, a TRULY destructive weapon to blast the hives. Athabasca hive , for some reason, got dozens if not hundreds of nukes in mass bombardment, before those bugs can get out... but that wild card got burnt. Laser Classes intercept anything complex going on its way to them.
Meteorites have all the requisites to blow them up
>Inert, and even if they got shot by lasers, only makes it worse for them.
>abundant enough that ANY space-faring country can put one of them in a predictable trajectory
>with enough mass or speed, can even destroy the surroundings, killing strains in the process
the only con that have this method is contamination...
>maybe some smarty pants got figured out some solution or mitigation to this "trouble"...
with ALL the hives (or the main ones) destroyed, its a matter of time that TSFs and the rest of armed forces regain control on this planet...
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Just finished watching Schwarzesmarken. Why the fuck did everyone just brush over the incest part so easily?
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>>23134123
NBR
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Why was he so shit that he was getting his ass handed to him by a single TSF battalion led by a 23 year old?
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>>23134810
Because he was the personification of the competency of the NVA outside of the 666th and of the writer's world-building skills.
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>>23134810
He went all in on artillery and his opponent had an attack helicopter spam deck
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So is the kiminozo release okay? Did it get any patches to get stuff back in it, or is it like most other All Ages stuff and the porn doesn't matter much? I remember kiminozo being said to be an example of them being really important but I've never read it to confirm.
Haven't been on /m/ in 2 years
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>>23136216
No porn! Only wholesome suffering!
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>>23136218
Sorry if it seemed like I was baiting or anything, but really, how big of a hit does the steam version take?
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>>23136222
A pretty sizeable one. Starting with the censorship, beyond even removing the H-scenes, a lot of jokes have been cut out such as a joke early on where Takayuki calls Shinji a 'dogfucker' or something to that effect. It's a crass joke, but it's part of the authenticity that these two will fuck around like that and say such this. This is 4chan, it's the kind of jokes we make here all the time.

Unlike Muv Luv, there are a lot of H-scenes in KimiNozo, many of which are either plot relevant or give insights as to the mental state of the cast. Mitsuki gets the lion's share of those, and you can watch her mental state deteriorate though how she has sex and what she's willing to let Takayuki do to her. Losing them actually hurts the overall story in a way losing the H-scenes for Muv Luv doesn't.

On top of that the translation is just jank in the Steam version. I've compared some KimiNozo shorts the original Muv Luv translator Evan did and uploaded onto Youtube to the new versions in the steam release, and the difference is like night and day. They got an ESL Japanese person named Riho Sakaguchi to do it instead of the old Alternative Projects team that I think got dumped at some point. The steam TL is really stilted and uneven and all in past tense, and that might be because the company Sakaguchi works for boasts about using AI in their translation work. I have a feeling the TL for Tactics will also be done by them and also be kind of jank and shit.
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>>23136569
That's depressing, guess I'll pass. Friend of mine was interested in nabbing some vns and it looks like I'll just have to tell them to get muv luv, alt, and both photons. I forget the deal with Total Eclipse and TDA, but I remember people saying the remaster had some issues with it
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Does the steam version have the Livin La Vida Loca song still? I want that and the initial d song
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>>23136598
TE and TDA both run off the new Ages engine. It's a big step down from rUGP and designed mostly for smartphones, which is why its assets are compressed to hell and back.
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>>23136678
no, they nuked both
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>>23136832
Patch doesn't say that it adds them back, either. That sucks. Figured I would play the game again since I was feeling nostalgic, but I remember the fan translation crashing a bit
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>>23136832
What? I thought the Initial D one was still there.
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>>23136694
No rugp was so god dam dog shit to work with it. It is the biggest fucking piece of unstable shit infused with aids to modify and work with when making translation patches because you can't change a few of the engine inner working with everything breaking or inserting text and having to force override the native jap text in order to display English or the god dam retarded way they setup images to be displayed. But with the new engine the Russians found a way to reverse engineer the engine the new Kimi nozo is on and I think or we'll I'm pretty sure fron what I've seen and what they have so far is a patch with an English translation done by human beings with good ol' sex restored in the game and whatever god awful translation removed and a more better English translation added instead of what was done by that slop ESL translator using ai because the way the text structured it was all done via Google translate or deepl translation or an older model of gpt because it looks familiar to what some companies are doing when it comes to releasing things on steam or what some fan patch's for other games have when it comes to a translation. I bloody hated rugp from version 3 to 5 and whatever because of the dam unstablness and how you have to patch the engine itself to be stable on modern hardware.
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>>23136926
Whoops forgot to reply the other guy please ignore the translation stuff
>>23136694
Please read translation stuff
>>23136569
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>>23136694
Whoops forgot to reply the other guy please ignore the translation stuff
>>23136569
Please read the translation and ignore the rugp pain rant
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>>23136912
It is.
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>>23136912
It is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XYrDqDgnA0 [Embed]

its the Livin La vida loca one that got cut
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Is Daikuuji's dad some kind of oni?
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>>23137624
He is the Sakimori of Seiryū, the Azure Dragon. Defender of Himiko, wielder of Nayuta power.

Read Daikuuji Kiki Ippatsu and Ayu Mayu Alternative for more. It's a shame neither ever got an official TL.
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>>23137828
who is this gaiking looking mofo?
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>>23135193
Why would this matter when it's established in the lore that any TSF would get utterly obliterated by a fighter jet (or even a SAM), and it's established that East Germany still has an intact air force?
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i just wish i could read it all over the first time
what a trip it was
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>>23137989
The father of a wild animal
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>last episode of the MLA anime was called "The World Moves On"
Why haven't you moved on, anons?
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>>23138913
I keep moving forwards but time is a flat circle
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>>23138913
im looping
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>>23122773 (me)
I can't believe I've been missing this for so long, bros.
>>23122831
KIIIIINO.
I thunk I could make an individual post for every game but in general:
I didn't mind the romcom elements in Extra(in fact, I liked them). I was totally into Meiya at first, but that last scene at the tree behind Hakuryou with Sumika... I didn't know a simple "bye-bye" could hit that hard. Reusing that moment in Alternative was brilliant.
But yeah, that’s when I realized I was actually into the retarded redheaded childhood friend.
The fact that she reminds me of my own childhood friend probably has something to do with it.

Unlimited felt weird. I liked the world-building and the alternate world is cool and interesting but it felt like it could have been way shorter without losing much. The ending is really good, but it feels rushed. Really nice buildup for the BETA as well.

Alternative panders to Sumikafags like myself, so I loved it. My main issue with Alternative is the pacing and the ending.
Takeru going back to being a moron in highschool but with even more waifus to choose from? Fuck that
The whole trilogy has a god-tier soundtrack. The early 2000s art style is soulful and cute.
Also, Ayamine is a shit character.
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>>23140619
>Ayamine is a shit character
Them's fighting words.
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>>23140619
Shame on the ending, I don't see it as much as harem wish fulfillment instead of I see it as Takeru going back to a happier life without all that trauma, as much as people want him to carry that with him for the rest of his life. I also appreciate that accepting Alternatives ending is another form of escapism. We were all following Takeru till the end and were happy to see him return to a state of normalcy, despite Alternatives world still existing and being a shit place to live for most. It's just another form of the privilege we get for living a high quality of life.

It's why, despite going back to romcom, that little inkling that they do remember some of what happened, even as minor as it appears, shows what they did happened, and that it mattered. We only saw through Takeru's eyes for the most part, and after all of that, we wanted out. But the idea that, outside of the resets, people in that world deal with that on the regular shows how weak willed alot of people in modern life, even to this day, actually are.

>Ayamine is a shit character
I accept your opinion, I don't agree
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>>23140831
Completely unrelated, but I'm not the only one who thinks the white Takemikazuchi kinda looks like the White Glint frame from AC For Answer, right? Like, I don't know why, but WG comes to mind every time I look at it.
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>>23140848
I get ya. Outside of the White Takemikazuchi being the same colours, it's got the protruding chest and generally thin human-esque build alongside the extended parts on the body that aren't useful but look cool. Thought checking on some stats, the Takemikazuchis alone stand at around 18m+ (with the White Takemikazuchi standing at 19.4m according to the wiki) compared to ACs at around 11-12m. Placing them side by side, it'd be pretty funny.
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>>23138690
when tf does this happen in the VN?
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>>23140892
It's from Another Episode + collection, they're pretty meh stories to be honest
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>>23138539
Why don't you reread my post instead of bringing a bunch of unrelated stuff up?
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>>23140848
maybe a year or so it was talked about here about how miyazaki theoretically could have read MLA or at the very least have been aware of it before directing 4/4A since he was spending all his time reading eroge around the release of fate. a few years removed from then wouldn't have been too much of a stretch
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>>23141236
AC4 released in December of 2006, MLA was February. It all depends on how quick you believe fromsoft worked back then.

there's also the whole Kasumi Sumika (armored core) thing that either confirms the entire theory or both teams decided to jerk off the anagram in the same year. Even has a cherry blossom petal in her portrait
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>>23140985
Any that are good? I have them installed I just haven't bothered to read them yet.
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>>23141611
They're all short enough that you can get through them one afternoon so find out for yourself if you enjoy any of them
I thought True Lies was kind of funny. I will always think of Sumika as
>RED FUHRER
from now on
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>>23142097
>Fuhrer Sumika
Im sold
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>>23140848
>>23141429
Based one what you've said it seems pretty obvious that the AC4 team played unlimited, kasumi of course is in unlimited and there's a takemikazuchi CG. I'm sure they put out some promo art of them ahead of alternative too.
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>>23139128
heh.
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>>23144569
>13.03
Oh. Happy birthday, Chewie!
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Today is my wife's birthday.
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>>23112596 (OP)
There was a crowdfund for Tactics? Whoops, I would have contributed to that.
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Happy Birthday, Yui. Your route existing but never being used is the greatest meta-tragedy in this series.
...okay, maybe not THE greatest. But it's up there. And you'll always be the winner in my book anyway.
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>>23144569
>>23144900
>>23145147
>>23145769
>>23145846
Who?
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>>23145928
my nigga you straight retarded
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>>23142674
She's older than muvluv entirely. She's always had a sakura pink motif. I don't see any real connection between their characters. She's meant to be a mysterious figure, so her name being an anagram is meant to indicate it's obviously fake.
>>23140848
I thought it was the same designer.

It pains me to think you could just ask FROM to borrow the Silent Line engine and make a simple muvlu mod and everyone'd probably love it.
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>>23148654
her last name was Juutilainen in the old games.
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>>23148695
>Juutilainen
Oh no, a Finn
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>>23148654
Her plot was also about almost getting kidnapped and used to make a digital AC pilot, if anything muv luv ripped her off
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>>23148735
Nice range on their expressions
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>>23149037
In all seriousness muvluv alternative's character plots for takeru and sumika is just a genderswap of the main duo in blue gender. It's a clever concept on the original, to make the heroine the one turned into a weapon and the male protagonist the one who can only try to return some happiness to her life before the end. When I saw a loli in blue gender that the main character gets emotionally invested in I was like
>wait. wait no... this is where it all began! This is why muvluv has a thing about killing lolis!
and then she got chomped. Blue Gender swings between really great and really bad for its whole runtime.
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>>23149355
it's funny how much shit people give Kouki for supposedly ripping off gunparade march when the guy has given interviews where he stated that he'd tell his dev team how certain scenes should be by making them groupwatch blue gender
that shit goes so far that they even decided to use the same stock-sound library or whatever so when you watch the show you'll randomly hear very familiar sounds
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>>23148735
Yeah? What about it?
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muv-luv is more or less an amalgamation of all mecha that came before it. I think you could point to just about anything and make the claim of it ripping it off
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>>23150066
>>23149355
(checked)
well, visually, yes. GPM has the plot and HWTs too similar to Muv-Luv.
But Blue Gender have something that GPM lacks(or does not show): a collapsing society (or w/e is left).

>>23150716
Kouki listed most of his "inspirations" in the CODEX... and had a lot of sources it seems
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It's kinda weird. Reddit is now at a stage where they think my Muv-Luv/Mai HiME crossover fanfiction is worth celebrating? Like, I don't even have to be annoying and keep mentioning it? They just bring it up on their own. I'm honestly a little surprised.

But when I wrote a response joking about my crossover fanfic called "Timeline Manipulation," at first it got downvoted to -1, and then other people voted it back up to the default +1. So I guess that means it's just "normal" to talk about my crossovers? Like, it's not really "good" or "bad," just "normal"?

I think I really had some dark magic going when I wrote the first two chapters, and the resolution in chapter 3 kinda ruins it. Which, I guess, puts in line with the actual writing quality in official Mai HiME. But now I've gotten into the habit of constantly adding more ridiculous epigraph quotes to the beginning of chapter 3 as a deterrent to stop people from reading it (but all the quotes are still carefully selected so they're 100% applicable to the events of the fanfic)

So now I guess the overall message "Timeline Manipulation" is trying to convey is... Being Yamashiro is like Kelsey Grammer getting turned into a vampire while the Weeknd is dressed up like Batman and dances to the Perfect Blue soundtrack in the background. And dying in L.A.
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>>23151167
Stay there, retard.
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i hope muv-luv dies just so i never have to see this retard again
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>>23151167
I've kind of been feeling like muv-luv is more relevant recently than it has been in the past 12 years or so it's been on my radar.
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>>23151302
What if they hired me as a writer for mobage phase 4?
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I just watched Akane Maniax on a whim.
Help. I'm in hell.
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>>23151167
I don't care. Cross posting from reddit isn't the mega awesome cinematic universe cross over you think it is
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>>23151553
I've been rewatching the Azumanga Daioh anime for the first time in a decade, and it struck me the many similarities it has to Extra. Yomi is very similar to Chizuru in looks and mannerisms, Sakaki ironically is very similar to Ayamine. Osaka and Mikoto are both oblivious airheads, and even Chiyo has that Tama energy. Even the focus on Yukari and Nyamo is similar to Marimo and Yuuko. A lot of the blame for the decline of Muv Luv is placed on Miyata Sou, but I think whoever refused to greenlight the Extra Anime that was to follow Akane Maniax deserves the real blame. Because all you'd need to do is focus on the comedy and the group antics, and slowly reveal the wider story regarding Meiya's reasons for being there. The failure of the Extra Anime to be made did more harm than anything else, because it reinforced the perception that the only thing that matters in a Muv Luv story is the robots and the aliens. That's how we got the Alternative Anime, in which the members of 207b might as well be cardboard cut-outs at the controls of the cool robots.
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>>23151553
I relate to Gouda, I do
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>>23151553
20 years later and still hurts.
Maybe, just maybe, in another better timeline MuvLuv didn't fall off thanks to that Extra anime. Who knows, we are condemned to cope for the rest of our lives.
>>23151167
Nigger
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>>23151572
oh, absolutely. An extra anime was almost certain to be at least somewhat popular. KGNE anime was pretty popular at the time and it was a bit of a rush job of a much more difficult to adapt plot than Extra's mostly linear main routes.
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So Avex are doing a big corporate restructuring that includes 'withdrawing from and downsizing inefficient businesses'. How fucked are we?

https://gamebiz.jp/news/401521
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>>23152465
>How fucked are we?
>fucked
That's great news. Let the franchise finally rest. It's been practically dead for years.
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>>23151167
lay down the crack pipe, m8.


aside from that, and answering the question: an OVA style of short stories (1 to 3 episodes), different people from the 1st Moon War to late 90s, even some narrated by people close to the soldiers ...
Can be US/NATO/Warsaw Pact, or even the first armies that desperately tried to hold the lines.

in the less OVA style, to more Anime series, tell a "chronicles" of how humanity was being revealed that they are not alone in the universe. The main protagonist is an astronomer, who constantly watch the skies with optimism... unlike some of his colleagues.
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>>23151670
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>>23152465
Sounds more like they're realizing nft games are retarded, which might give us a little breathing room
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Just make a fucking VN, christ.
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>>23151167
>someone mentions buying the IP with a piggy-bank value
> this post >>23152465
A-anons, can we make a crowd-funding to buy the IP? how crazy it could be?


>>23152122
>>23151572
im glad im not the only one that agrees with Extra had its potential in 2005, with Unlimited and Alternative in Late 2000s, when CGI mechas was "viable" (GPM and Blue Gender suffers a bit with hand drawn action scenes)
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>>23152728
these giant media companies usually don't even want to sell their IPs, they'd rather sit on them and do nothing because that eliminates the chance that somebody else makes a successful product and retroactively humiliates them. See also: EA
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>>23152774
Its also the only way they can retain enough value to be sold. There is an entire class of parasite that will load up a company with IP's in order to sell it and retire. Everything else is secondary. Its not just vidya. Literally everything is like this now because its the only way the graph can go up and up
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>>23152941
Oh no. Inia's pilot suit is melting faster than Kazu-kun in my crossover fanfiction.
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anyways
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Is this worth watching?
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>>23154859
Nevermind, it was not.
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>>23154147
nigga shut the fuck up
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Somebody refresh my memory please. Why is Marimo so mellow in Alternative when compared to Photonflowers.

Nobody in Alt ever got smoked as hard. Takeru gets away with things that would've got Isumi skull fucked.
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>>23155211
Time heals all wounds, even the Mad Dog's.
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>>23155211
how about
meiya being the shogun's spitting image
tama's dad being a un rep
sakaki's dad being the pn
kei's dad being a prominent personality and former lieutenant general
yoroi's dad being the head of some intelligence agency
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>>23155357
Takeru is a nobody
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>>23155431
so?
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I think I'm about ready for a reread guys. Anyone know of any female streamers/youtubers who've played the game? Curious to see how a woman would tackle extra in particular
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>>23155211
Cause she's now working under her handler, Yuuko. Also she knew this was her last batch of trainees since Alt V was coming up.
And she was hard on Takeru in UL, but in Alt he's basically the Ubermensch so she had no chance to drill him sideways.
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https://www.defensenews.com/air/2025/03/21/boeing-wins-contract-for-ngad-fighter-jet-dubbed-f-47/

How long until we get the F-47 TSF?
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>>23157020
we already do
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>>23157020
They only got the number right.
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So is this franchise on live support or are we getting anything new? haven't followed it for some time now.
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>>23157845
Tactics is coming... at some point. It will of course flop horribly and kill all hope.
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>>23157845
Life support.
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Which story has extraverse Meiya meeting Daikuuji?
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>>23159185
Daikuuji Kiki Ippatsu. It also has Ayu getting Twizzler'd.
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>>23151167
>check for any fanfics if there is any
>surprised there is actually one that was last updated in February
>its Takeru x Marimo fic too
pleasantly surprised that it has any
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>>23161241
The English fanfic sphere was at its peak during the Total Eclipse days, much like this general.
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>>23161241
>>23161275
Surely the last anime did any help to raise the numbers.

>The English fanfic sphere was at its peak during the Total Eclipse days, much like this general.
we will see if the Tactics gaem will atract some attention...
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>>23157916
>they have guys who made some of the Front Mission games
they have NO excuse, unless they are experimenting with some bullshit mechanics

>>23155211
>>23155357
that and
>>23155431
Takeru got in because Yuuko put inside of 207b. and Marimo must be aware about the disturbing stuff underground
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>>23155932
>Muv-Luv
>Female viewers
such thing exists?
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>>23162319
>Takeru got in because Yuuko put him inside of 207b
Yeah. Now that I think about it she was probably weirded out by him, especially in alt. As far as she knows Takeru is already a soldier who's in 207b as part of his cover story for something sinister.

Just thinking about that cause I started Photonflowers. I finished the original series about a year ago and it feels weird seeing the girls (and Mikoto) again
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>>23162352
There's a few female fans in Japan, but western woman would hate Muv Luv for being nationalistic and all the other stuff they don't like.
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>>23162352
I realize it's probably a pipe dream >:
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>>23162442
Do you rescue her or leave?
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Wincest
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>>23162368
You having your interpretation does not mean everyone else shares it. You'll find that there quite a number of women that like ML and read VNs.
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>>23162445
Leave and ignore.
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Have opinions changed on Axman?
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>>23162544
He's a cartoonishly sociopathic copy of a man even Hitler was afraid of. In a series known for its nuanced depiction of human antagonists, he sticks out like a sore thumb for being utterly irredeemable. Imagine if Sagiri was written like Axmann.
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>>23162544
Nope. Still deserves death.
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>>23162456
I couldn't stand the fanbase for either of the imoutos in SM.
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>>23162629
66 > Katia
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>>23162445
>Do you rescue her or leave?
Have a guess. Yes
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>>23162656
Looks like you're going to have to give some CPR.
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>>23162660
Nothing unexpected there.
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>>23162445
Always save Beatrix.
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>>23152941
kys nigga go back to lurking nobody cares, if the only time you interact is met with people telling you to leave just leave at that point also get better at writing
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>>23162445
How is that a question? Rescue.
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>>23162803
replied to the wrong nigga, nigga
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some demented programmer at age made it so that, in the first i've ever seen in a vn, hitting the new game button in KGNE-LE will autoskip everything that has been read, with no toggle or option
does anybody know a way to disable this or remove the cache?
and for that matter how the fuck do you even save?!?
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yokai!
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>>23162803
Some people tell me my Gunpla collection is cool.

I interact with a few other people that don't just tell me to leave.
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>>23162803
>also get better at writing

Naw, I'm just gonna adding intro quotes.
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>>23162456
The only acceptable ending
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>>23163434
Sex
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>>23163434
Rape
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>>23164039
noooo
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>>23163173
i dont have KGNE-LE, but i did not had any issues with any of the "new" releases...

>>23162660
h-hot

>>23162438
how? and more important, where is her helmet?
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>>23163434
Sexy köt
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>>23119775
You're also missing the bit they bought Amaterasu's translation with the intentions of releasing it with slight edits and corrections, but desu the translation was bad enough fixing it would've taken more work than scrapping it. Amaterasu made a decent buck out of it though.
Kouki also fought to have Chiduru and Takemikaduchi, so he wouldn't have to redo marketing materials, but we showed him Aquaplus had localised one of their character's names as Chizuru and Atlus had a Takemikazuchi. He put his foot down on Sado Island, forcing it to be Sadogashima despite Sado's own real-world tourist materials, national websites and even maps showcasing its proper English name.
Feels absolutely stupid to have the name as Sado Island Island now.
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>>23164872
Is that you Aalt? I never thought I'd see you here again. How do you feel about KimiNozo finally bring out there gor the public to read? I lament the cuts, but I'm glad English speakers can now read it
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>>23164905
I ain't reading it precisely because of the cuts.
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>>23164912
You'll be waiting forever unless you learn Japanese. Why do you have such an "all or nothing" mindset? If you think that holding out will result in getting what you want you're entirely mistaken. Shit like this is not going to come to the western market without cuts. Thats just the way it is. Let go of your autistic obstinance.

I'm happy to have something on the market that is accessible to the international market and compatible with modern hardware so modders have less work to do in regards to patching cut content. I don't care if its missing scenes. This is better than nothing and the fact is that the situation more workable with scraps than with nothing at all.
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>>23165829
I'm not waiting at all. If they or someone else releases KimiNozo in a non-butchered state then great, I'll read it. If not, then whatever, I'll do literally anything else.
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>>23167331
In the summer a group of Russians and English men are planning to release a fully translated delocalized non butcherd English patch which includes cunny and h scenes and cut routes and endings and the removal of lines that sound retarded to read because of poor translation. I just hope it really is the summer and not later
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>>23167362
That sounds about as believable as Muv Luv getting into SRW-Y.
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>>23164872
>He put his foot down on Sado Island, forcing it to be Sadogashima despite Sado's own real-world tourist materials, national websites and even maps showcasing its proper English name.
>Feels absolutely stupid to have the name as Sado Island Island now.
I was watching some jap guy (and some politicians) ranting about Assasins Creed: Shadows, and one thing got my attention...
Shrines are considered "private property" , so, for appearing in a game or any IP-stuff, you need to ask permission to the owners.
Maybe is the same for other public places...
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I was searching some games for /m/en recently , and 3 of those got my attention:

>MASS builder
with time and dedication , you can build a TSF, and fight with it
>DAEMON X MACHINA
with its anime style, and flying robots, its a good mix to pass a time around. limited customization, sadly.

>War Tech Fighters
Transformers, but in space...

the 3 of them have similar controls, the first 2 being "fluid" , with the last one have more "style" in the fights

>we could had a true Muv-Luv Eishi experience
>instead we got m*kha*l
its not fair...
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>>23168955
The true Muv Luv experience would be like Dynasty Warriors except every enemy can kill the shit out of you.
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>>23168955
>DAEMON X MACHINA

I tried to make my character that game look like Yamashiro. The two worst missions she kept getting stuck on are the one where you have to defend a cargo train for a set time while a bunch of rival suits show up to slam you around, and the one where you're forced to run around on the ground without your mech and steal another mech.

The first upgrades I got for her in the character editor were a bunch of cybernetic prosthesis stuff that completely replaced her arms and legs.

Fitting.
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>>23169075
yup, Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 comes to mind, with a faster pace, like a "last stand " survival shooter...

>>23170711
mine was like a female ninja from naruto (forgot her name) , with that fluffy ponytail...
helmets be damned by anime-styles , lel
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>>23167378
Muv luv verse look em up on vndb as dem niggas are working on it rn I've seen the screen shots and internal testing of the patch I saw the green frog lady get cummed in on their discord were they post stuff even if it's mostly Russian with a bit of English but it's getting close to done
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>>23164905
It was a shitshow and I'm not supporting the censoring it went through. The VN got cut and mutilated, and then got presented as expanded. I'll stick with Latest Edition, it's the most complete version
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>>23171585
>pic
no

by the way, im reading Rain Dancers right now, and holy shit, the
>MUH MURICA DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HERITAGE VALUE
gets repetitive and tiresome.
I don't know if the japanese language makes translators mad, or the writers are severely autistic, but i saw that pattern in VNs. (Atonement is an exception, but too short)
and at the top of the cake, europeans insulting the only armed forces that had taken ANY hive, before the new millenium.
Its literal HOPIUM, industrial grade.
VG is cooler than her sister.
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>>23171585
>ridin imma Leopard 2 with the gang
> these ayy bugs show from every corner
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claymore_mine
>strap bigger versions of pic related, covering the most area possible
> anything in 50 meters gets shredded with a shower of lead
heh, nothing personel, red buggy...
>inb4 muh lazers
just shoot them with the cannon, goddamit
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>>23171744
>>MUH MURICA DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HERITAGE VALUE
On the other hand, I wonder why the Yankees in the ML constantly repeat their mistakes, managing to spoil relations with everyone because of their position of "mass bombing", so to speak?
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>>23171744
The average euro doesn't know shit. Neither does the average mutt or jap and the games do a pretty good job portraying this. Bombing hives to kingdom come when no one else likes or engages in this policy isn't exactly something to brag about, either.
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>>23171890
fuck off Ivan
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>>23171769
Still, tanks are clearly not the right thing; fast wheeled platforms with autocannons and "anti-tank" missiles, like this one from Gunparade, would be more suitable equipment for the ML.
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>>23171744
>second spoiler
Yeah. But Monica is damn fine.
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>>23171897
Agree. Hit and run with wheeled tanks can be practical in the open. but less so in more dense places (like urban or mountainous areas), and dunno if can mount ERA or something like that.

Tracked heavy tanks (MBTs) can hold a "last line" of defense in strategic posts. and with the "multi-directional explosive shotgun", can make "killzones" in ambushes, or clearing a front line from small strains of BETA (and probably Grapplers can be killed too)

And best of all , if Wikipedia does not lie, those explosives are relatively cheap...

>>23171890
maybe they got too cocky, i guess?
>made the first nuke
>killed the first hive with nuke
>made the first G-"bomb"
>killed the first laser defended hive with G-"bombs"
yup. they were high on hopium, ignoring the reports of anomalies. like the chinese and soviets "2 more weeks" in 1973...

>https://muvluv.fandom.com/wiki/Alternative_Plans#Alternative_V
Maybe THIS is the cynical part of the plan.
>The immigration ships were not really expected to survive: this was simply something added on to the plan in order to get the UN to agree with it.
>US prioritizing the cratering of Earth over the survival of the human species
Top kek
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>>23171894
the writing was more of a lecture from the authors than a natural thinking of normal people.
I know that yuropeans can be ignorant about something outside from its borders, but i felt all RD as over-exaggerated.

>>23172166
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>>23171744
Monica actually has a number of stories about her, but those are all Luxin's fan doujins
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>tfw the mobile port will never see the public life of day since it was only a backer reward from 10 years ago and backers didn't probably get it either so it's basically lost media
I have a few friends who would have finished the Trilogy already if they had it on the go with easy access, but still they are stuck in Extra, God I wish there was a way to get that mobile port nowadays
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>>23173117
>God I wish there was a way to get that mobile port nowadays
The only way you're getting that shit at this point is if somebody starts an actual lawsuit, which nobody can be bothered doing for fucking muv luv.
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>>23171895
Ivan who?
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>>23171890
tankie is back
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>>23173117
im not well versed into mobile gaming, but what VNs got into that market? just curious

I doubt there is a technical limitation to port a VN to smartphones more powerful than any PC from early 2000s
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>>23172911
got translations?
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>>23174390
I'll give you the link, and you can run it through an MTL if you're that desperate.

https://e-hentai.org/g/2263742/ae053d6df0/
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I cannot understand women
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>>23174536
thanks, probably in the future will try to read, i heard MTL is a bit primitive for asian languages...
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April 1st will remembered as the day we all perished. It has been an honor serving with you, gentlemen.
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>>23178712
u too.
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>>23179038
>Teito "Puyo-Puyo: BETA edition"
IMHO, the Invasion of Japan in 1998-99 should had its own anime, instead of 3 episodes of "bait and switch" in 2 series that does NOT depict the regular units on the front.

Starting with Marimo or Sagiri fighting in the final stages of the Asian evacuation (with nukes in the background) , and ending with the G-bombs drops in Yokohama.

/M/ega-/K/ino devilered ...
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Happy Birthday to TDA's best girl.
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For the five people who still come here to put flowers on the tombstone, I've started rewriting my love letter to the two /m/ properties that I love the most, this one and /sgg/ over yonder.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/64373830/chapters/165262819

Read it or don't or tell me to off myself or confuse me for the vore guy who also writes fanfics. Either way have a nice day.
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>>23180900
You too oh effortful writer
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>>23180900
I never watched Symphogear, but since you posted it, i have questions...
how powerful are the mechas in that series? how advanced the tech and industries are? could them deal with the BETA?

>>23180241
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>>23181018
Symphogear's hard to explain, but it's a three-way hybrid of Mecha, Toko and Mahou Shoujo featuring singing power-armoured lesbians fighting God. /sgg/ could explain it much better. It's more Mecha adjacent than anything else, but Muv Luv's already had its own version in Ayu Mayu Alternative where their own Toku parody the Sakimori (which is a term that's very important in Symphogear as well) fight the BETA in TSFs modified to channel their inner powers. Muv Luv already did it, all I'm doing is replacing the Sakimori with the Symphogears.
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>>23172528
>maybe they got too cocky, i guess?
What's the point?

They nuked Germany before the communists even got there... But in the end, East Germany and the Warsaw Pact still emerged.

They bombed the BETA landing force in North America... without Canada's consent, turning half of its territory into a radioactive wasteland. As a result, Ottawa effectively broke off relations with the US and allied itself with Europe, and Quebeco-France appeared in North America with nuclear weapons - the Monroe Doctrine went to hell.

The Japanese refused to carry out massive WMD bombings on the islands that Washington was pushing for, and then were outraged by the use of G-bombs on Yokohama without coordination. Again, the US lost its ally and influence in the Far East, which led to an attempt to interfere in a coup in the Empire and the loss of any remaining presence in Japan.

It seems like there are some short-term benefits, like a show of force, but in the long term the Yankees clearly lose too much if the BETAs don't gobble them all up.
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Have you done your JP reps today /mlg/
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>>23181518
Dekinai
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>>23181518
I just use Google Translate.
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>>23181096
>What's the point?
simple. NUKE FROM THE ORBIT. That's the only way to be sure.
>They nuked Germany before the communists even got there
weapons testing, like in Japan IRL. Also, they were resisting "too much", and the high command in USA said "why not?"

>But in the end, East Germany and the Warsaw Pact still emerged
yeee, that is retarded, until you remember that WW2 was started because Poland was being invaded, but in the end, was given in a silver tray, to the USSR... "politics", dude.

>They bombed the BETA landing force in North America
They knew the risks after the Chink FUBAR, and like cases after this, they fuck up alerting the nearby bombing zones.
Canada can be recover from radioactive ash, Hiroshima and Nagasaki for example.
Try the same for the Eurasian people, that their territories can be restored. BETA are unforgivable with anything on its path.

>The Japanese refused to carry out massive WMD bombings on the islands that Washington was pushing for
yup, because one TSF sea-limousine was stuck on their parking lake , lol
also, i agree with the japs on this one. Unless you modify the warhead, most of the radioactive and thermal energy gets absorbed in the air, making it poorly in effectiveness.

>It seems like there are some short-term benefits
>USA evaded a cosmic ayy bullet and survived for +30 years to support the rest of the world with technology and industrial production
>short-term
Meanwhile, the USSR is in Alaska (former Russian Empire territory) and China taking refuge in Taiwan, of all places. KEK.
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>>23181896
i wonder how precise or "lost in translation" are MTLs... but sadly, its the only way for the baka gaijin to read more stories...
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>>23182148
you can fuck off, too, faggot
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>>23181896
>>23181518
What an inappropriate camera angle for such a serious and traumatizing scene.
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>>23182349
>eroge VN
>more specifically, misery porn VN
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>>23182522
Adding a little misery and pain and suffering adds quality to any kind of vn as it makes the reader feel emotions it's like making the world's most disgusting cookies yet you keep coming back for more cause of that industrial grade corn starch and highly processed sugar is addictive
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Did anyone here goy out on the crowdfund for the soundtrack tier? Seems like they sent it out. They sent out the wallpapers too but it was literally just the two pieces of art we've already seen lol
https://files.catbox.moe/vx1xmq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/om4024.png
>>23181518
yes
>>23181896
EOP slave
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>>23182148
>NUKE FROM THE ORBIT
So why wasn’t the Moon bombed en masse from orbit with something like the Tsar Bomba?

>weapons testing, like in Japan IRL... because Poland was being invaded, but in the end, was given in a silver tray, to the USSR.
That's the problem, the wonder weapon had no effect in the end and, as in the IRL, the Anglo-Yanks couldn't stop the Soviets from taking control of Eastern Europe. In theory, after such a fiasco, Washingtonians should have remembered that superbombs aren't the only thing in the world and that's why their obsession with G-bombs is a bit puzzling.

>They knew the risks after the Chink FUBAR...Canada can be recover from radioactive ash
Yeah, and now they are an unfriendly neighbor allied with a potential rival (the EU in ML, as far as I understand, is much more united and independent) and, moreover, provided their territory to France with its nuclear weapons and nationalism. This is not BETA of course, but it is also bad.

>i agree with the japs on this one
Frankly, you positively surprised me. Here and on Reddit, for example, the imperial Japanese are usually reviled for their refusal to submit to the whims of the "wise" Yankees. I wonder how you would try to resolve this problem of the interaction of ideologies and countries?

>Meanwhile, the USSR is in Alaska (former Russian Empire territory) and China taking refuge in Taiwan
Well, you can always justify yourself by saying that old enemies are now under the control of such kind and warm-hearted USA and Co., especially since in Total Eclipse this is actually true... But, again, when information about Red Shift is made public, for example, such crap begins that the expediency of such a plan is called into question.
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>>23183123
>USA +30 years to support the rest of the world with technology and industrial production
Not only them, actually. South Americans and Africans got rich on the food trade and improved their positions at the expense of migrants, Japanese and Australians became members of the UN Security Council... The Soviets created espers, the samurai rolled out the first 3rd generation TSF and the railgun... It doesn't seem that the US is unimaginably superior to everyone else

So why the hell does it ruin relations with everyone over and over again because of WMD issues, for example?
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>>23183124
S. America and Africa are in US and Yuropean hands,
and the exception of ESPers, none of the other tech you mentioned are gonna contest the US military supremacy.


>So why the hell does it ruin relations with everyone over and over again because of WMD issues, for example?
Because Kouki and japs are still butthurt from the sunny firecrackers they got as gifts in ´45.

and from the other long post before

>>23183123

> 1
it was bombed, but conventionally. lol
you need bigger stuff to mess the BETA...
> 2
Muv-luv verse clearly minimize or exaggerates the capabilities of nuclear bombs at their whim.
For your typical SF writings, it can pass, but it should not be taken as "Hard" SF.

>I wonder how you would try to resolve this problem of the interaction of ideologies and countries?
you can't , and Suez got priority. that happened.
the question im giving myself now, is why Japan did not asked help from USSR. >inb4 those islands northern Hokkaido probably mudded relations, heh
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I'd rather the general be a ghost town than read this retarded drivel.
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>>23183215
>are in US and Yuropean hands
Yes, sort of, but as far as I remember, even the CODEХ notes that tension is brewing on the Black Continent between local governments and migrants from former metropolises, due to the Europeans pulling economic and partly political levers towards themselves. So all sorts of unpleasant things are quite possible.

> japs are still butthurt from the sunny firecrackers
This only makes it funnier to see interviews and reports in which some Japanese sincerely believe that the bombs were necessary and entirely justified.

>and Suez got priority.
This has already been discussed in previous threads and it is a worthless excuse. Because if the Japanese line of defense collapses, then the Soviet Union and later the territory of the USA itself are under threat of a flank attack - which is much worse than losing part of Africa.

>why Japan did not asked help from USSR.
I believe that Kouki and Ko hate Russians and communists with a passion (hence the buckets of slop on the USSR and GDR in TE and Schwarz), but because of this, the logic of ML itself suffers. To defend Northern Japan and attack Sadogashima, cooperation with the Soviets would be a logical and natural military policy... especially since later in TSFIA joint operations of samurai and commies are described, but in TE the Iwaya faction is so anti-Soviet that it is ready to actually hand over the key national project of updating the TSF to the Yankees, who recently betrayed the Japanese.
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>>23183541
>This has already been discussed in previous threads and it is a worthless excuse.
i.e. you got completely BTFO because you're a retard but okay buddy continue to misrepresent every fucking thing you read because kouki hurt your fragile feelings
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Lol
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>>23183645
>because kouki
Kouki and Co. have basically buried the entire franchise and regularly screw up in all their endeavors - so his "authority" is frankly inflated. And your showing off in the style of his fanatic, who has given up on all his nonsense, is downright funny, because there's nothing to say except "blah-blah-blah".
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>>23183749
right because you totally don't come here religously to spew your garbage that no one agrees with and completely ignore any pushback against you
cry more ivan
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>>23183541
>>23183215
>>23183123
Thought you were done sperging out
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>>23183266
the worldbuilding have its cracks IMO. and most of the material outside of the main trilogy does not help either.

>>23183541
>This only makes it funnier to see interviews and reports in which some Japanese sincerely believe that the bombs were necessary and entirely justified.
Better drop that source here, m80.

>Suez canal is a "worthless excuse"
Download Photonflowers, and read Rain Dancers. Kouki explains its reasoning.
On the other side, 25 YEARS to prepare the defenses on the main islands, and they fuck up in the FIRST week. I WOULD PAY to see any military analist's face, in that universe.

>but in TE the Iwaya faction is so anti-Soviet
the Japs themselves insisted on the XFJ program because for them to "drop an idea" its a cosmic miracle, lel.
Pic Related if the japs make a "deal"... kek
In TE itself explains that ALL TSFs development is made from the Yankees alone, and the other "branches" just depend of them.

lets be honest, the Project Prominence is like that tank competition that Russia makes with some central asian countries IRL. Funny to watch, but you dont expect some "arms race" or R&D...
Most of the heavy lifting was made in the 1st or 2d gen TSFs. after that, its just trying to reinvent the wheel, IMHO.
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>>23184204
im just enjoying this.
fresh OC, do not steal (im looking a you, redd*tors)
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>>23184204
He never actually leaves.
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>>23184390
None of us leave. We could've jumped on the lifeboats long ago, but we're going down with the SS Muv Luv. It has that effect on readers.
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>>23184460
I mean, I leave pretty often. And then come back, but still.
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I just come by to check if I need to make a new thread. Haven't really posted here since the crowdfund ended and I finished reading SM
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>>23184390
I don't think he actually enjoys anything though. It just an outlet for some kind of racial inferiority complex
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i have some things to say after getting my first bad ending in KGNE-LE
i have no idea of the quality of the english translation but i think that the guy here going on about debujuu and the removal of the H-scenes was just whinging
the H-scenes are seriously pretty good but, i would say, not "unnecessary" but rather "not necessary"
there is enough dialogue and quiet shifting in character dynamics outside of the H-scenes that to speak of their being fundamental to the experience of the narrrative is a little bit (but not totally) silly
if you are terminally EOP i imagine the lame release is probably good enough for you
which is to say don't be like me and read something like this as your first JPVN foray, i have drowned in takayuki's thirty-sentence causative-potential-passive-pronoun ruminations and missed a lot
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>>23184798
You don't understand Anon, the console script the translation is based on rewrites and removes far more than the just the h-scenes. It's not like the much luv releases at all. You should seriously look up a playthrough before just giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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>>23184934
i'm combing through the archives and now i feel naive for uncritically writing my original post
i just wonder how drastically could it possibly have been rewritten? it's not as though the entire game is sexsexsex like i expected it to be (although i'm the retard for not catching onto how that would be significant for mitsuki, even excluding the endings they censored)
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>>23184973
>it's not as though the entire game is sexsexsex like i expected it to be
>on a relatively long VN
there is such thing as "Long duration VN Coomer central"?
with skintight bodysuits if possible
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>>23184986
by that i meant for it to also be reflected in the dialogue, i expected it to at least be halfway toward nukige territory considering the most notable object of its legacy is mizuki dog.jpg
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>>23184973
In the original, it opens with both a gay and a bestiality joke between Takayuki and Shinji. They completely cut that part out. That's just the first change. They cut dozens of chunks out of the VN in a similar way.

>>23184998
Chewy...
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>>23185141
there you are.
>it opens with both a gay and a bestiality joke between Takayuki and Shinji. They completely cut that part out
that's what i was addressing with debujuu, it's a stupid cut but in the first place it only comes up once after the first chapter
outside of that and some allusions to sex i'm wracking my brain for what i've read that i can imagine being cut out for the rerelease
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of course i'm approaching this from the perspective of "don't torture the EOPs by telling them that the rerelease is an infinitely inferior product" which to some extent it is and i have no real stake in either "side" as somebody who can struggle through the JP
i just hope >>23167362 is real
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>>23184210
>Better drop that source here, m80.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/08/04/70-years-after-hiroshima-opinions-have-shifted-on-use-of-atomic-bomb/

>Kouki explains its reasoning.
He did write, but Japan is still more important, because the loss of Africa is incomparable with the threat to the North American continent. That's all.

>I WOULD PAY to see any military analist's face
I wonder why the Japanese troops were so disorganized? They couldn't seriously think that the fleet would completely secure the Empire's coast? However, there was no evacuation of the population, no regrouping of troops, no establishing supply lines and rotation, no agreements with the Chinese and Russians on joint operations and assistance... NOTHING.

>In TE itself explains that ALL TSFs development is made from the Yankees alone
And in this it contradicts the Eurofront, where the Eurofighters are presented as, supposedly, a Western modification and reworking of the Japanese Shiranui. Also, Captain Izumi's lecture in Alternative also does not support the "absolutism" of the USA.

>lets be honest, the Project Prominence is like that tank competition that Russia
It's strange to compare technology exchange and sports competitions, in my opinion. Prominence didn't provide anything radically breakthrough, but it allowed us to modify and debug many TSF models - which is good. (By the way, I hate Hartwick's secretary, because this chick reduces EVERYTHING that happens in the game to "USA f*ck ea!" and presents her opinion as the absolute truth.)

>the Japs themselves insisted on the XFJ program
For God's sake, but why are they ready to hand over this super-valuable national project to the Yankees who abandoned them with their alliance just a couple of years ago? At the same time, Iwaya's reaction to the military's proposal to cooperate with the Russians was extremely negative, as if the KGB had personally screwed him in the ass. WTF?
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>>23181518
>>23181896
That shit still not translated?
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>>23185300
I heard it was actually shit from one guy. I don't know what the average scores are, though.
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>>23185300
Unless some hardcore fan decides to do it, War Ensemble's never getting a TL. Last Divers never got one, and it's actually important for TDA.
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>>23185308
According to VNDB, it's decidedly mid.
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>>23185342
Last Divers has a TL, no?
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>>23185251
>I wonder why the Japanese troops were so disorganized?
Overconfidence? i doubt ...
Ignorance? double doubt. the Expeditionary force would strongly warn them that shits gonna hit HARD.

>They couldn't seriously think that the fleet would completely secure the Empire's coast?
its implied that the IJN is very strong compared with the rest of asian countries, but MLA shows the contrary in Sadogashima.

>no regrouping of troops
and sabotaging their OWN COMMS.
>no establishing supply lines and rotation
Takamura and Co. was stationed at a supply base at the "rear" third line, and even there, Destroyers and Tank Classes did the TADAIMA with a badly defended base.
and there is no rotation of troops in the front, if there is no troops (or front). lel.

>no agreements with the Chinese and Russians on joint operations and assistance... NOTHING.
>CHYNA got smacked by japanese since the 1930's
and do i need to remind the history with Russia?
But yeah, all would change if some Ayy Bugs came to mess up, sooooo... nah.
>COSEAN asks the call AFTER half of Japan is razed to the ground
and my mind is foggy again if UN did something...

>It's strange to compare technology exchange and sports competitions
yup, my bad.
Better would be on how the chinese were getting "R&D" from USSR for their Su-27 clones (and other models) IRL, if you catch my drift...

>but why are they ready to hand over this super-valuable national project
that produced a less than 100 units, is a PITA to control , and they were going nowhere because the local manufacturers were more focused on the taka-taka sushi-sushi. Priorities...

>as if the KGB had personally screwed him in the ass
yep, the fearful KGB was hated or avoided to anyone who messed around on their turf... the arab countries know some cases.
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>>23185238
https://discord.gg/R2hnqmdy
you can ask em for screen shots or scroll through the chats they posted a couple of screenshots mostly h scenes and removed content but it's in Russian and a mix of English they also got a couple of English translators and in pretty sure one of em is working on a black Mars patch ie German spy sister incest Simulator some other fags are working on other stuff
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>>23185997
Sorry drunk and on phone it's black marks/ Schwarzesmarken not black Mars.

And auto correct is a bitch sometimes
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>>23185997
>German spy sister incest Simulator
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Do people actually jerk off to Muv-Luv? There are some characters I individually find hot, but the setting and story as a whole just feel too gloomy and serious to work as an erotic setting for me.
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>>23187527
But how will humanity survive if they don't fuck a bunch Anon?
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>>23187527
I get the setting being too messed up to jerk off during, but with all the side media or even the in-game art, you must be a homosexual or there might not be any good doujins or artists
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>>23187527
I jerked off to that one Yui rape doujin and some select bondage pictures before I knew what Muv Luv was. I wouldn't want to now, though.
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>>23112596 (OP)
>https://www.reddit.com/r/MuvLuv/comments/1jrqc7x/map_for_the_third_united_front/
Another great amateur map of the ML world, this time dedicated to the Third United Front of China.

Of the interesting details - Korea still exists, although it is limited to the island of Jeju; in North America, Quebeco-France is marked; and the Chinese, although they did not divide Taiwan, retained small islands in the South China Sea and can expand their territory at the expense of artificial and man-made islands.
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>>23188560
There is a special kind of autism required to make maps like these, and while I dont' have it myself, I can only admire it.



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