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Erik Nygren :verified:

AAAARGH! I'm not at all surprised, but NIST's excellent whitepaper on Inclusive Language (NIST.IR.8366) has been withdrawn:

nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2

This was an excellent resource that I reference all the time. I feared it would go away so I made a snapshot a few weeks back that I uploaded here: nygren.org/archived/NIST.IR.83

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JJDavis :terminal:

@nygren Thanks! I wonder what has happened to the NIST Standards Inclusivity Effort Team members?

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The Doctor

@jjdavis @nygren Two of them sent me their CVs, for whatever that's worth. I kicked them up the food chain at $dayjob yesterday.

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epicdemiologist

@nygren Clarifying here that my "like" was for your preserving the resource, not for its being taken down!

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John Timaeus

@nygren
Thank you for archiving.
Just downloaded it. Turns out that's copy #3 on my phone.

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Ian Norton (he/him)

@nygren I also recommend ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knod

www.ietf.orgTerminology, Power, and Inclusive Language in Internet-Drafts and RFCs There has been extensive discussion in and around the IETF community about the use of technical terminology, which could be interprereted as exclusionary. The document below is published as an artefact of the discussion because it sparked many debates and inspired several actions in the IETF community. This, however, does not say anything about whether the opinions it holds are correct or incorrect. Since the debate about technology, language, and its implications will probably never be finished, we offer this document for reference in future discussions about the topic. It is important to note that this is not standard, it does not represent IETF consensus, and should not be misconstrued as anything other than the authors’ views.
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Paul Wouters

@idnorton sadly the doc seems stuck - not a good sign for IETF

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Fabrizio T.

@nygren I'm glad that the Internet community is still adopting inclusive language guidelines even if the NIST document has been withdrawn

RFC 9775 "IRTF Code of Conduct" (March 19, 2025) => rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9775.htm

Part of RFC 9775 "IRTF Code of Conduct" (March 2025) 6. Inclusive Language and Imagery Participants should ensure that language and imagery used in IRTF documents, presentations, mailing lists, research group meetings, open meetings, conferences, workshops, and other events, are respectful and inclusive. Effective research uses terminology that is clear, precise, and widely accessible to readers from varying backgrounds and cultures. Participants are encouraged to follow the guidance on inclusive language in [NISTIR8366] when making contributions to the IRTF [INCLUSIVE]. Participants should avoid the use of slang and unnecessary jargon in both spoken and written communication. When communication difficulties arise, IRTF participants should make a sincere effort to understand each other and to engage in conversation to clarify when necessary.
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The Doctor

@roughconsensusandrunningcode @nygren Archive them, just in case they get bullied into pulling them down.

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Lance

@nygren Removing useful information from the world solely to satisfy an executive order is so Orwellian.

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