For the universities that I am most familiar with (mostly in the U.S.) there is no undergraduate theoretical physics major or undergraduate experimental physics major. Nor should there be. There is only a physics major. It should give balanced exposure to both mathematical and laboratory work, resulting in a well-rounded bachelor’s degree instead of narrowly specialized training.
(And anybody who isn’t working at least on a master’s degree yet claims that they’re “studying theoretical physics” is really just a physics student trying to sound more advanced than they are.)
In the junior and senior
For the universities that I am most familiar with (mostly in the U.S.) there is no undergraduate theoretical physics major or undergraduate experimental physics major. Nor should there be. There is only a physics major. It should give balanced exposure to both mathematical and laboratory work, resulting in a well-rounded bachelor’s degree instead of narrowly specialized training.
(And anybody who isn’t working at least on a master’s degree yet claims that they’re “studying theoretical physics” is really just a physics student trying to sound more advanced than they are.)
In the junior and senior undergraduate years, there is some flexibility to take a few electives that might be more mathematical or more experimental in their focus. But elective choice is not as significant as it first appears. A career in physics means continuing on to graduate school - To be accepted to work with a good advisor in a strong graduate program, what matters most is how well you do in a quality, highly-ranked undergraduate program, what recommendations you earn from faculty you work with, and how high you score on the GRE. Details of which electives you picked won’t matter a lot.
One exception is that a few schools offer a physics major and an applied physics major. At the undergraduate level, that’s a more meaningful distinction than theoretical vs. experimental.
For employment after earning a Ph.D., there simply aren’t enough academic jobs. A lot of Ph.D. physicists will need to find employment in industry or government even if their goal was a university research position. Tenure-track professorships in physics are extremely competitive, and a lot of excellent people don’t get them. The odds might be a little better for an experimental scientist able to bring in a lot of grant money. Odds are also a little higher if you have sophisticated computer coding skills on top of your mathematical and physics knowledge. But for the effort required, you should pick what you’re best at and are most interested in, as choosing a Ph.D. just for the best job odds is a path to burnout.
All preoccupations of physicists are channeled towards the investigation and study of the physical properties of the universe; the interactions and interrelations of matter and energy at different scales - from atomic scale (Quantum Physics), human scale (Classical Physics) and cosmic scale (Cosmology & Astrophysics).
Theoretical Physicists spend their time, energy and resources to conceive and develop models (*usually conceptual, philosophical and thoroughly mathematical) in order to describe observable or non-observable physical phenomena and also the laws governing the interactions and inter
All preoccupations of physicists are channeled towards the investigation and study of the physical properties of the universe; the interactions and interrelations of matter and energy at different scales - from atomic scale (Quantum Physics), human scale (Classical Physics) and cosmic scale (Cosmology & Astrophysics).
Theoretical Physicists spend their time, energy and resources to conceive and develop models (*usually conceptual, philosophical and thoroughly mathematical) in order to describe observable or non-observable physical phenomena and also the laws governing the interactions and interrelations of matter and energy at all scales.
Experimental Physicists on the other hand spend their time, energy and equipment (resources) performing tests and experimentation on models and theories. Experimental Physicists could be very practical in the sense that they are more inclined to become Engineers using physical principles, laws and models to invent technologies - of the present and of the future.
Both Theoretical and Experimental Physics seem like imperatives for investigating the universe or studying physics. They are the Yin and Yang of the discipline.
As regards physics as a profession, the job responsibilities separates both imperatives. The professional responsibility of a Theoretical Physicist include:
- Building conceptual models of the physical properties of the complex universe (through Thought Experiments mostly)
- Making mathematical analyses and predictions about these ‘concepts’ relating to the complex phenomena we experience and observe.
- Writing papers and debating about right or wrong theories like Bohr–Einstein debates (This is so cool, it made me fall in love with Theoretical Physics)
The professional responsibility of an Experimental Physicist include:
- Testing the models and theories made by Theoretical Physicist (* just like those guys who tested Einstein’s hypothesis about the quantum world — quantum entanglement, spooky actions, and the ‘to be or not to be’ scenario)
- Developing ways to use the properties of matter and energy in industry applications (very cool)
- The models created by Theoretical Physicists needs data - lots of them - hence, Experimental Physicists observe, record and analyze data for the efficiency and utility of the models.
I wish I was a real Physicist
Footnotes:
Experimental physicist goes to his department head and asks for ten million dollars to build a new experimental instrument. The department head says, “Why do you always need so much money? Why can’t you just use paper and pencil and erasers and computers like the theoretical physicists? Or just pencil and paper and erasers, like the mathematicians? Or just paper and pencil, like the philosophers?”
You have to be smarter at Mathematics and abstract thinking to be a theorist; you have to have a little Engineering streak to be an experimentalist. The best physicists (IMNERHO) are both.
What gets you excited more? The idea of working with exciting ideas, concepts, and equations, or working with exciting gadgets and machines? Of course there will be overlap of the two, but you should have idea of which one really gets you going. I'm assuming that you care more about doing exciting work than making money. Every physicist I ever met is entirely driven by passion for the subject rather than anything else.
To elaborate a bit more on the differences- A theoretical physicists goal is to consider all of the data and other observations which experimental physicists have provided along
What gets you excited more? The idea of working with exciting ideas, concepts, and equations, or working with exciting gadgets and machines? Of course there will be overlap of the two, but you should have idea of which one really gets you going. I'm assuming that you care more about doing exciting work than making money. Every physicist I ever met is entirely driven by passion for the subject rather than anything else.
To elaborate a bit more on the differences- A theoretical physicists goal is to consider all of the data and other observations which experimental physicists have provided along with all of the inconsistencies in current theory and try to build new models or come up with new mechanisms to explain these. They also will spend lots of time drawing current theories to their logical conclusions and working out all of the implications for caveats of our current models which haven't been explored.
Experimental folks will spend lots of time performing experiments, taking measurement and doing TONS of statistical analysis to determine what exactly they measured, how confident they are that it was an actual measurement and not a random fluctuation, whether these results are what we expect, etc. they think about what factors might be causing inaccuracies and how to deal with these. They are often to ones to say we have strong reason to believe that a current physics theory must be wrong due to experimental results not matching up with what the theorists have predicted even after all of the interfering factors have been accounted for.
I tend to sympathize wkth the theorists. Nothing makes me happier than a whiteboard and lots of free time to think :)
I had a physics professor in college who was am expiremental physicist. He made a comment about theoretical physicists. In his words, he said theoritical physicists could derive a model of what would happen with only math. No testing, just math on a chalk board. He said props to them, but I can't do that. He had to test things hands on.
An experimentalist will devise experiments and perform them. They will make measurements, annotate them into their notebooks.
They will search in the literature which is the best model to describe the observations and fit them to it, extracting the parameters.
These parameters have meanings implicit in the model, which was devised by a theoretical physicist.
For example, let's consider a Raman spectroscopy experiment, where we measure the interaction between light and a molecule in solution.
The interaction between light and the molecule would occur far from their absorption lines.
Figure 1 – Jablo
An experimentalist will devise experiments and perform them. They will make measurements, annotate them into their notebooks.
They will search in the literature which is the best model to describe the observations and fit them to it, extracting the parameters.
These parameters have meanings implicit in the model, which was devised by a theoretical physicist.
For example, let's consider a Raman spectroscopy experiment, where we measure the interaction between light and a molecule in solution.
The interaction between light and the molecule would occur far from their absorption lines.
Figure 1 – Jablonski diagram showing the transition of energy for Rayleigh and Raman scattering.
The virtual states are there just to represent the non-resonant interaction. They are in the gap (energies below the absorption line).
There you can see the Stokes, anti-Stokes, and Rayleigh Raman scattering.,
The Stokes line will have the energy of the laser (excitation) minus one vibrational quantum. The anti-Stokes line will be at laser plus one vibrational quantum. Since that line depends upon the vibrational population on the lower electronic state, it will be sensitive to temperature.
The Rayleigh line is just elastic scattering.
Also shown in the figure are actual absorption and fluorescence lines. Absorption is followed by radiationless transitions to the bottom of the excited state manifold. Only then fluorescence occurs.
This means that the inelastic light scattering would be the result of the interaction of the light with the susceptibility associated with the molecule.
Since that susceptibility (polarizability) depends upon exactly where all the atoms are located relative to each other, the interaction will contain information about vibrational frequencies.
The peaks are related to molecular vibrations.
The interpretation (the extraction of molecular bonds, couplings to the surroundings) is done using the theoretical framework worked out by theoreticians.
You try to put your hands on both. I've been trying to write my theses and to do internships in between on both sides, about both cosmology and particle physics. At the end, I think I might end up doing my PhD somewhere in the middle, phenomenological. So, the point is you never know what you're really into and you're really good at unless you try. You shall realize, I guess, only one side can give you the chill to your bones when you're working on it, only one side can offer you enough of comfort to get you through your long PhD days and only one side you can give it your all. Of course, I'm
You try to put your hands on both. I've been trying to write my theses and to do internships in between on both sides, about both cosmology and particle physics. At the end, I think I might end up doing my PhD somewhere in the middle, phenomenological. So, the point is you never know what you're really into and you're really good at unless you try. You shall realize, I guess, only one side can give you the chill to your bones when you're working on it, only one side can offer you enough of comfort to get you through your long PhD days and only one side you can give it your all. Of course, I'm not talking about people like Enrico Fermi, who worked and achieved tremendous successes on both sides.
Experimental physics performs experiments in order to discover exactly what happens.
Theoretical physics studies reality including the results of experimental physics to discover why things happen the way they do.
Theoretical physics looks for underlying forces that result in the physics that have been discovered.
When people do not know why physical things happen the way they do they propose possible reasons for why reality looks and acts as it does.
Those are theories. That work is theoretical physics. When people make experiments to test those theories they are doing experimental physics.
You will need a good grounding in mathematics, if you are not prepared to take that on you will be limited in your understanding of the theory. Some of the problems can only be understood through the mathematics. I thought that I had a reasonable grounding at sixth form level but found the University level much more difficult and didn't devote my time fully to understand it. You might think that of the two,
experimental physics might be the better bet if your maths wasn't up to it, but in the end you do need a good understanding of the maths. If you read most of the answers on the physics probl
You will need a good grounding in mathematics, if you are not prepared to take that on you will be limited in your understanding of the theory. Some of the problems can only be understood through the mathematics. I thought that I had a reasonable grounding at sixth form level but found the University level much more difficult and didn't devote my time fully to understand it. You might think that of the two,
experimental physics might be the better bet if your maths wasn't up to it, but in the end you do need a good understanding of the maths. If you read most of the answers on the physics problems either on the net or via Quora you will understand what I mean. This is particularly true when you are faced with Quantum Theory. It takes a Richard Feynman to explain the higher physics and even he said no one understands Quantum Theory!
I’ll provide an anecdote to stir the pot some.
One of my professors was experimentally determining the wave function of electrons in diatomic molecules, measuring scatter off of photons (?maybe electrons it was in the mid 70’s) off of single molecules in an extreme vacuum setup. A theoretician proved that his plots couldn’t possibly be valid, that uncertainty precluded getting the precision and repeatability that he demonstrated.
It is quite possible that both had errors in their work, but the experimentalist produced data useful for chemical engineering. For many of us utility is a major criter
I’ll provide an anecdote to stir the pot some.
One of my professors was experimentally determining the wave function of electrons in diatomic molecules, measuring scatter off of photons (?maybe electrons it was in the mid 70’s) off of single molecules in an extreme vacuum setup. A theoretician proved that his plots couldn’t possibly be valid, that uncertainty precluded getting the precision and repeatability that he demonstrated.
It is quite possible that both had errors in their work, but the experimentalist produced data useful for chemical engineering. For many of us utility is a major criterion in determining the validity of a theory.
I am not a physicist. I think you have good responses here from qualified professionals. However, I will point out to you that which others will not do. Experimental physics gives us the empirical evidence that we need to understand the universe. However, theoretical physics does this only partly. Theoretical physics is a mathematical playground in which guesses are allowed. Popular guesses even become established parts of physics equations. Probably the worst scientific choice made was that the nature of the universe could be analyzed from a mechanical perspective. This universe produced us.
I am not a physicist. I think you have good responses here from qualified professionals. However, I will point out to you that which others will not do. Experimental physics gives us the empirical evidence that we need to understand the universe. However, theoretical physics does this only partly. Theoretical physics is a mathematical playground in which guesses are allowed. Popular guesses even become established parts of physics equations. Probably the worst scientific choice made was that the nature of the universe could be analyzed from a mechanical perspective. This universe produced us. We are the means by which it now comprehends itself. It communicates to us through empirical evidence. The evidence is all around us. Between what physicists know and what the rest of us observe; this universe is an orderly, unified, example of how intelligent life comes to be. Theoretical physics is nether unified nor does it predict or explain the existence of life or intelligence.
Experimental physics involves a lot of design of instruments and experiments which can test the limits of existing mathematical models of a system.
Theoretical physics develops mathematical models which explain the experimental facts about a system.
Experimentalists perform experiments to test the theories of theorists. Sometimes experimentalists perform experiments that test out their own theories too. Theoretical physics is the deriving of the theories of the how the world works and experimental physics is the performing the experiments to test how the world works.
There is also computational physics, which is usually mixed in with theorerical physics, but it is really a bit different. After one has a theory, one may have a very complicated equation that predicts the way the world works. However, some one needs to be able to figure out h
Experimentalists perform experiments to test the theories of theorists. Sometimes experimentalists perform experiments that test out their own theories too. Theoretical physics is the deriving of the theories of the how the world works and experimental physics is the performing the experiments to test how the world works.
There is also computational physics, which is usually mixed in with theorerical physics, but it is really a bit different. After one has a theory, one may have a very complicated equation that predicts the way the world works. However, some one needs to be able to figure out how to perform the computation to get real values that are predicted by the equation. Computational physics could be thought of as numerical analysis applied specifically to physics.
Both types of physicists work with math and abstract ideas. The primary difference is how they go about proving things. The theoretical physicist uses logic and math where the experimental physicist does physical experiments and takes data. Take a little of both to see what you like better.
Sooooo. either way mathematics is going to be your core. Applied or experimental physics is generally less math intensive and uses, for the most part, theories that are proven and sound. Theoretical physics is definitely more for math junkies but it can just just as fascinating. Just remember that in applied or theoretical physics; being right and wrong is still advancement. Applied physics you learn lots of ways not to do things and in theoretical physics you learn lots of ways things don’t happen. It’s only disheartening if you let it be.
This is my take.
I’m reaching the end of a double master’s degree in engineering physics and theoretical physics so I hope I can give you a good answer…
The main difference is basically the kind of questions you ask yourself, so if you don’t know which way to go, you have to think about what turns you on the most…
- If you love understanding how devices work, and based on what principles, and how they are used in order to get what you want, then applied physics is probably the best way to go.
- If you love asking questions about how our physical theories are founded, how is it legitimate to use a certain assumption a
I’m reaching the end of a double master’s degree in engineering physics and theoretical physics so I hope I can give you a good answer…
The main difference is basically the kind of questions you ask yourself, so if you don’t know which way to go, you have to think about what turns you on the most…
- If you love understanding how devices work, and based on what principles, and how they are used in order to get what you want, then applied physics is probably the best way to go.
- If you love asking questions about how our physical theories are founded, how is it legitimate to use a certain assumption about reality and how the mathematical translation is correct, then maybe theoretical physics suits you better.
For example, when you are taking a shower, what would you most probably spontaneously ask yourself :
- At what speed would the water flow out of a punctured bottle ? What is the furthest I can see a candle in complete darkness ?
- Can a photon really only interact with itself ? Do physical properties of a system exist prior to a measurement ?
Though both applied and theoretical physics require you to have a passion for solving problems, I have met very smart people who really don’t see the point in asking philosophical questions, and also smart people who really get bored when the topic is too specific to a certain application or device.
I believe they attract different kinds of problem solvers :
- Applied physics attract problem solvers who are amazed by how useful and efficient something can be, and how to build up complex things from simple fundamental rules.
- Theoretical physics appeals problem solvers who, in my opinion, are addicted to the beauty of finding, expressing and understanding general rules that govern the whole universe that take a pristinely simple form in the mathematical language.
In my case, I was a bit of both, though in my undergrad the main subject was pure mathematics.
I did want to enjoy doing things that had an immediate practical use.
Applied physics really asks the real questions, the models are often complex and you need numerical methods to solve your equations.
Theoretical physics asks the tough questions, the models are less complex but more sophisticated.
After two years of engineering physics, I really missed studying concepts that would encompass more situations. Like “consider a spacetime in which…” rather than “consider a lens of focal length…”.
Oh, and of course, you will have different kind of maths in theoretical physics (variational calculus, group theory, complex analysis, tensor calculus, differential geometry) than in applied physics (more statistics, regression optimization, 3D geometry), even though some of the maths used in both topics do overlap.
But maybe more than the mathematical concepts, it’s the way of doing maths that will not be the same. In theoretical physics, you need to understand what you do, not as deeply as the mathematician, but certainly in a less “utilitarian” way than for the applied physicist.
As for the jobs…obviously, there are more industrial applications for an applied physicist who knows how to deal with the purification of a laser beam, than for a theoretical physicist who knows that all future pointing timelike worldlines or null geodesics converge to the singularity once the event horizon is crossed.
Anyway, both are incredibly rich and demanding, in their own ways. But perhaps as far as your career prospects are concerned, applied physics would be less restrictive than theoretical physics.
Yes.
Either one would be catastrophically weakened by the absence of the other, but what it comes down to is this: without experiment/observation, there is no science. Without experimentalists, theorists would have pretty much nothing to go on. That makes a pretty big difference, e.g., the difference between Aristotle and Newton. Guess whose theories work better?
Experimentalists also make tremendous use of theoretical results. Most of physics post 1900 or so would be a complete shambles without theorists, and an awful lot of modern technology wouldn’t exist. But, they’d still know something. Te
Yes.
Either one would be catastrophically weakened by the absence of the other, but what it comes down to is this: without experiment/observation, there is no science. Without experimentalists, theorists would have pretty much nothing to go on. That makes a pretty big difference, e.g., the difference between Aristotle and Newton. Guess whose theories work better?
Experimentalists also make tremendous use of theoretical results. Most of physics post 1900 or so would be a complete shambles without theorists, and an awful lot of modern technology wouldn’t exist. But, they’d still know something. Technology-wise, we’d still have modern bridges, and skyscrapers, and cars — they just wouldn’t work as well, and progress would be slower.
To put it another way: if you already have a bunch of theorists, but no/few experimentalists, you would desperately want more experimentalists. If you already have a bunch of experimentalists, but no/few theorists, you would desperately want more theorists. But if, for some bizarre reason, all physicists had to be in the same category, you’d want them to be experimentalists.
Experimental Physics: Focuses on conducting experiments to observe, measure, and analyze physical phenomena, using tools and instruments to test theories or discover new phenomena.
Theoretical Physics: Focuses on developing mathematical models and theories to explain observed phenomena and predict new ones, relying on abstract reasoning and computation.
Key Difference: Experimental physics is observation-driven and hands-on, while theoretical physics is model-driven and abstract. Both are interdependent, with experiments testing theories and theories guiding experiments.
Within a physics department, if you are a theorist, and your primary daily tool is a whiteboard or your head, and your papers are mostly equations, then you are a “mathematical theorist/physicist”. You get your salary paid from either teaching classes, or by writing grant proposals that pay your university salary for you so you don’t have to teach as often. If your tools are primarily computers, perhaps with some pencil and paper equations and other “analog” work, you would be a “numerical theorist”. In that case you write grants and permission requests to use supercomputers at other locations
Within a physics department, if you are a theorist, and your primary daily tool is a whiteboard or your head, and your papers are mostly equations, then you are a “mathematical theorist/physicist”. You get your salary paid from either teaching classes, or by writing grant proposals that pay your university salary for you so you don’t have to teach as often. If your tools are primarily computers, perhaps with some pencil and paper equations and other “analog” work, you would be a “numerical theorist”. In that case you write grants and permission requests to use supercomputers at other locations, or purchase clusters of workstations for your group or supercomputers for your department. If you have a considerable mix of computer work, “analog” work, etc, like someone who works on density functional theory, you would definitely be a “theorist”, but people would not consider you a “mathematical theorist”. You might write a mixture of grant proposals to pay for your time and possibly supercomputer time/workstation hardware.
Typical mathematical physicists are: String Theorists like Joe Polchinski or John Schwartz, Field Theorists like Steve Giddings or David Gross, Theoretical Cosmologists/Astrophysicists that study spacetime geometry like Kip Thorne or Steven Hawking. Typical numerical physicists are: Theoretical Astrophysicists that study galaxies and star formation or compact objects like Omer Blaes. Typical other mixed theorists might be other types of materials scientists like Walter Kohn or Leon Balents.
As an aside, other forms of physicists:
If you mostly use telescopes or equipment that someone else made, like writing grant proposals and permission requests from the government to getting time on the Hubble Space Telescope, then you would be an “observationalist”. If you specialize in building a new Hubble Space Telescope, (and being the first to use it and write papers from it since you wrote the grant proposal, led a team that designed it from scratch, and are the PI for it, likely agreeing to allow others to use it after your initial time period where you get exclusive rights), then you would be an “instrumentalist”. If you mostly work in your lab and tinker with custom setups and novel materials that you write individual smaller grants for, you would be an “experimentalist”. Note an experimentalist may consider any of the theorist classes above as being “pure theorists” with less distinction between them. People in this experimentalist group would be considered “pure experimentalists” by people in the theory class, with less distinction.
In high school, I profoundly disliked the (minimal) lab components of my physics and chemistry classes. Given the option between plugging numbers into a simple formula, or struggling to keep a recalcitrant lab partner on task long enough to slide a toy car down an inclined track on a lab bench, the preference towards theory was obvious.
During my freshman year of college, the lab classes were less rudimentary and my lab partners were infinitely more capable. We started to incorporate ‘real’ equipment, such as Geiger counters and interferometers into the labs, which actually clarified classroom
In high school, I profoundly disliked the (minimal) lab components of my physics and chemistry classes. Given the option between plugging numbers into a simple formula, or struggling to keep a recalcitrant lab partner on task long enough to slide a toy car down an inclined track on a lab bench, the preference towards theory was obvious.
During my freshman year of college, the lab classes were less rudimentary and my lab partners were infinitely more capable. We started to incorporate ‘real’ equipment, such as Geiger counters and interferometers into the labs, which actually clarified classroom concepts. Starting my sophomore year, I started to do research with an experimental condensed matter physicist. This, coupled with the content of my classes becoming more sophisticated, created a situation where my ‘practical’ experience gave me intuition to understand classroom concepts, rather than the other way around. When we learned scattering theory in quantum mechanics, I had already been doing that same thing with neutrons for a year. When we derived paramagnetic susceptibility in statistical mechanics class, I had already seen this using a SQuID magnetometer many times.
I did not even consider being a theorist after my freshman year of college because of my positive experiences working in an experimental research lab, the positive feedback loop between my research, courses, and lab courses, and the relatively uninspiring experience I had in my college math classes. The path I chose turned out to be most lucrative from the standpoint of finding research opportunities as an undergraduate and finding a faculty position 10 years later (see: Inna Vishik's answer to Which fields of physics have a demand for more experimental physicists?), but this pragmatism never entered into my initial decision making process.
I built model airplanes as a kid (not the plastic kind; I’d go buy a couple sheets of balsa wood and sculpt them into my own designs, meant to fly well) so I had originally planned to become an aeronautical engineer. Then I read a few hundred science fiction books and decided physics was for me. (This was in the era when space operas and weird science dominated the genre.) Then there were a couple other reimaginings (poet, philosopher…) and I found myself going to grad school to get a PhD in Physics in order to gain credibility as a SF writer. At Berkeley I found out I was not smart or discipl
I built model airplanes as a kid (not the plastic kind; I’d go buy a couple sheets of balsa wood and sculpt them into my own designs, meant to fly well) so I had originally planned to become an aeronautical engineer. Then I read a few hundred science fiction books and decided physics was for me. (This was in the era when space operas and weird science dominated the genre.) Then there were a couple other reimaginings (poet, philosopher…) and I found myself going to grad school to get a PhD in Physics in order to gain credibility as a SF writer. At Berkeley I found out I was not smart or disciplined enough to be a theorist, and in any case they don’t get to build stuff — so there was no real choice after that; but I also got lucky with a thesis topic that (a) was like a SF story and (b) was just at the taking-off point as a new research tool. I got my degree in 1972 and am still trying to kick-start my SF career….
I bet that’s no help at all. :-)
Theoretical physicists tend to have higher math IQs, and experimental physicists tend to be far more creative in crafting ways to get nature to answer the questions of the theorists.
Ernest Rutherford was amazing at putting together experiments and should have received at least two Nobel Prizes for his work, but he struggled to do the math that eventually showed that his scattering experiment indicated the existence of a small dense nucleus in atoms.
There are many stories of famous theorists who were forced into some degree of experimental work as graduate students and almost didn't make it bec
Theoretical physicists tend to have higher math IQs, and experimental physicists tend to be far more creative in crafting ways to get nature to answer the questions of the theorists.
Ernest Rutherford was amazing at putting together experiments and should have received at least two Nobel Prizes for his work, but he struggled to do the math that eventually showed that his scattering experiment indicated the existence of a small dense nucleus in atoms.
There are many stories of famous theorists who were forced into some degree of experimental work as graduate students and almost didn't make it because of their poor skills with equipment.
The world of physics needs both types, and there is even a third classification known as machine builders.
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Theoretical Physics: looks for mathematical “ proof “ or tries mathematical simulation of the problem.
Experimental Physics : looks for experimental proof,to answer the problem.
“Since the mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity I do not understand it myself any more.” — Albert Einstein (1949)
I think Einstein was being a bit facetious in this quote, but it illustrates a difference in theoretical physics and mathematical physics. Einstein was clearly a theoretical physicist. There were numerous mathematicians, such as Elie Cartan and Hermann Weyl who applied mathematical methods, the theory of moving frames, in the case of Cartan, and the vierbein by Weyl, to the theory. Perhaps that is, in part, what Einstein was referring to in the quote above. The cont
“Since the mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity I do not understand it myself any more.” — Albert Einstein (1949)
I think Einstein was being a bit facetious in this quote, but it illustrates a difference in theoretical physics and mathematical physics. Einstein was clearly a theoretical physicist. There were numerous mathematicians, such as Elie Cartan and Hermann Weyl who applied mathematical methods, the theory of moving frames, in the case of Cartan, and the vierbein by Weyl, to the theory. Perhaps that is, in part, what Einstein was referring to in the quote above. The contributions of Cartan and Weyl could be considered mathematical physics, in other words, mathematical methods applied to physics.
Another illustration of the difference of the two fields would include the discoverers of quantum mechanics, Schrodinger and Heisenberg, and those, John von Neumann in particular who’s work provided a rigorous treatment of the subject in the arena of Hilbert space theory. The former were theoretical physicists, and the latter a mathematician contributing to the understanding of quantum mechanics.
It is not unusual for theoretical physicists to introduce mathematical concepts based on intuition or need, examples are the Dirac delta function and the Feynman path integral, and for these ideas to catch the attention of mathematicians who become interested in making those ideas mathematically rigorous. That has been part of the interplay between physics and mathematics since at least the time of Isaac Newton.
So, my characterization of the difference in the two fields is that theoretical physics endeavors to produce mathematical models to explain physical phenomena. By contrast, mathematical physics is concerned with mathematical methods used in physics to solve problems or formulate theories.
There is definitely an overlap between the two but otherwise they can be fairly different fields because their goals differ.
Ask yourself this: is there a particular physical question you care about? Is string theory something you want to work in, and you’ll not settle for anything else? Perhaps you’d rather explore the inner workings of condensed matter or maybe you’d want to jump on the quantum c
There is definitely an overlap between the two but otherwise they can be fairly different fields because their goals differ.
Ask yourself this: is there a particular physical question you care about? Is string theory something you want to work in, and you’ll not settle for anything else? Perhaps you’d rather explore the inner workings of condensed matter or maybe you’d want to jump on the quantum computing bandwagon.
Or is it that you care more about the methods used to solve these problems? When you come across a solution to a problem in physics, do you say “Great! The problem has been solved” or do you say “Cool, I wonder what other problems I can solve using this approach?”. Are you more passionate about problem solving in physics, whether it be in string theory, nuclear, quantum, plasma, condensed matter, or astro or what have you, than you are about acquiring knowledge, through theoretical or experimental or even computational means, in a specific subfield of physics? If I give you a physical system and give you a fact about it, do you care about mathematically modeling that system in such a way that the formalism will allow you to show that that fact is true mathematically, or are you content with saying “it’s obvious, it’s obvious” or proving it via experimental means?
If the second paragraph sounds like you, you’re ...
I did a bit of both as a student. During college, I worked with an experimental group on radiation physics research with astrophysical implications. In graduate school, I did theoretical condensed matter physics and then theoretical particle physics. In the end, I just fell in love with the mathematical underpinnings of theoretical particle physics and stayed in that field.
It would have been more practical to stay in condensed matter research, I supposed, since there are options to work in industry or move toward applied physics to some extent. But I just really liked what I was studying in pa
I did a bit of both as a student. During college, I worked with an experimental group on radiation physics research with astrophysical implications. In graduate school, I did theoretical condensed matter physics and then theoretical particle physics. In the end, I just fell in love with the mathematical underpinnings of theoretical particle physics and stayed in that field.
It would have been more practical to stay in condensed matter research, I supposed, since there are options to work in industry or move toward applied physics to some extent. But I just really liked what I was studying in particle physics and decided to follow that pathway.
An experimental physicist is an electrician/plumber on the side, while a theoretical physicist is a mathematician/computer scientist on the side.
Most of the domain specific knowledge for experimental physics comes from working in a research lab, not by taking a class about it. Yes, there are sometimes classes (or lab courses) about a specific experimental technique, but it is not a good use of one's time (unless it's required) if you never use that experimental technique. There are also many physics, math, and CS classes that are helpful for physicists, but this is not specific to experiment
An experimental physicist is an electrician/plumber on the side, while a theoretical physicist is a mathematician/computer scientist on the side.
Most of the domain specific knowledge for experimental physics comes from working in a research lab, not by taking a class about it. Yes, there are sometimes classes (or lab courses) about a specific experimental technique, but it is not a good use of one's time (unless it's required) if you never use that experimental technique. There are also many physics, math, and CS classes that are helpful for physicists, but this is not specific to experimental physics. It should be noted that the background knowledge you need will depend very much on the subfield in which you want to specialize, which is all the more reason to get your feet wet with real research as early as possible if you want to be a physicist when you grow up.
Which ever one you like better. The important thing is to finish the Ph.D. which means doing whatever topic you like. The job market is basically the same for both experiment and theory, so there's no obvious advantage in one over the other.
The physical order of nature has its own logic. Experiments subject theory to the judgment of the logic of the natural order.
Theory possesses the logical order of the human mind.
Experiments constitute the arena where natural logic and human logic are compared with each other.
Until the end of the 19th century, scientists admitted that natural logic has priority. Afterwards they gradually decreased the priority given to natural logic and increased the priority given to human logic.
Speaking as someone who got a Masters in theoretical particle physics and then spent a couple of years in theory at the PhD level before switching to experimental high energy physics, I think I am quite qualified to answer this question. No reputable theorist I have ever met (and I have met a great number, including at least a dozen or so Nobel winners) ever ignored or put down experimental physics or physicists. The fact that you try to tells me without a doubt that you have no ability as a physicist of any kind, so go try something else, like contemplating your navel.
As an experimentalist, I have to say that theorists seem a lot smarter to me (on average). This could just be a case of "imposter syndrome" but I don't think so.
On the other hand, experimentalists are sometimes cleverer, in the same way that trout are sometimes cleverer than fishermen.
The greatest physicists generally have a foot in both camps; they aren't usually recognized as experimentalists, though, mainly because they just suggest the experiments to other people and let them do the grunt work. :-)
As an experimental physicist, I can say with confidence no.
Without theorists, experimentalists wouldn’t have guidance on what to search for.
Without experimentalists, theorists wouldn’t have guidance on what to think about.
In particle physics it doesn’t seem possible to do both. In other fields of physics, where the research groups are much smaller, maybe it still is. I hope so. Before I worked on particle physics I worked in a small lab focussed on plasma physics and stochastic dynamics. (That’s how I paid my way through college!) It was very cool and I miss those times.
A boy born in Newington Butts(now part of London borough of Southwark).His family was not well off and he was third of four children. He had the most basic school education (i.e. He was able to distinguish between alphabets and read them)
When he was fourteen, he became the apprentice to George Riebau, a local bookbinder and book seller in Blandford street. During his apprenticeship he read many books like Isaac Watts' The Improvement of Mind etc. And he developed interest in SCIENCE, especially in electricity.
At age of twenty, he ended apprenticeship and attended lectures of Humphry Davy wh
A boy born in Newington Butts(now part of London borough of Southwark).His family was not well off and he was third of four children. He had the most basic school education (i.e. He was able to distinguish between alphabets and read them)
When he was fourteen, he became the apprentice to George Riebau, a local bookbinder and book seller in Blandford street. During his apprenticeship he read many books like Isaac Watts' The Improvement of Mind etc. And he developed interest in SCIENCE, especially in electricity.
At age of twenty, he ended apprenticeship and attended lectures of Humphry Davy who was member of Royal Institution and Royal society. So the boy sent Davy a three-hundred page book based on notes that he had taken during these lectures. Davy was impressed and employed him as an assistant which ignited the love for science in him.
His work in both chemistry and physics was remarkable.
FOR CHEMISTRY:
(I) He gave the Laws of electrolysis;
(II)terminologies like Anode, cathode, electrode and Ion;
(III) optical properties of gold colloids; (IV)He invented early form of Bunsen Burner ;
(V) He discovered Benzene (which he called 'Bicarburet of Hydrogen');
(VI)Liquefying gases(chlorine);
(VII)First synthesis of compound of carbon and chlorine( C2Cl6, C2Cl4);
(VIII) He also continued metallic nanoparticles.
FOR PHYSICS:
According to me he is the best experimental physicist
(I) Electricity And Magnetism;(II)Diamagnetism;
(III) Static electricity;
(IV) Induction.
And many more
He just had love for science. And that love made helped him to reach pinnacle.
He died at the age of 75 in the year 1867.
-MICHAEL FARADAY(1791-1867)
Now, coming to your question
Yes, you should go for it.
You will enjoy physics.
There are a lot of peculiarities regarding specific fields, but the most importance difference I can recognize universally is that Theory is bottom-up, Experiment is top-down.
There are two parts to an experiment: the performing and the analysis. The performing varies greatly from field to field, but the common thing is that once performed the experiment, the result is full of everything, is (if you did things properly) the truth.
Then, you have to analyse the total truth to strip down the content into meaning, going from sheer number(s) to the thing you are experimenting about and you want to
There are a lot of peculiarities regarding specific fields, but the most importance difference I can recognize universally is that Theory is bottom-up, Experiment is top-down.
There are two parts to an experiment: the performing and the analysis. The performing varies greatly from field to field, but the common thing is that once performed the experiment, the result is full of everything, is (if you did things properly) the truth.
Then, you have to analyse the total truth to strip down the content into meaning, going from sheer number(s) to the thing you are experimenting about and you want to demonstrate. This process is like peeling an onion: you remove obvious and omni-present background sources, you remove less obvious and specific background you can think of, you search in a specific scale what you want to find, navigating gauging yourself on other things you know...etc...
You have to undress the truth to reach its core.
With theories you have your field-dependent technicality, but the core result is that you have your ideal naked world and you have to dress it (fill it with fields, interactions, particles, ideas...etc...) to find out the thing you want. You start from blank slate, and populate your world with the less components you can imagine that give the effect you want to see.
To prepare to be an experimentalist really depends on your field. Could be that you need on-the-field expertise, or statistical (never a bad idea in these days in any case), electronics or optics...etc...
If you ask from the day to day depends a lot on your field. There are fields where the experimentalist analyse data for years, thus making the work very solitary, math and computationally driven, except for the few weeks of shifts needed for the next bunch of data. There are theories which require a very coral effort and frequent meetings and maybe not so many hours on the computer.
Generally speaking tough, theory is a more solitary work, more sedentary, more filled with quirkiness. When I was doing experiments there was lot more drinking and fooling around involved... or maybe I was just younger... ;)
If you want to become a theoretical physicist, then pursue a PhD in mathematics. Getting your PhD in theoretical physics will require a lot of math. Unfortunately, the modern theoretical physicist is too much of a generalist. Theoretical physics needs specialists who are able to connect the dots of established physics, not invent or reinforce speculations while ignoring the more intimate details of physics.
IMO, the degree in mathematics is the way to go for theoretical physics simply because you won’t be so foolish as to think you already understand without bothering to look it up and research
If you want to become a theoretical physicist, then pursue a PhD in mathematics. Getting your PhD in theoretical physics will require a lot of math. Unfortunately, the modern theoretical physicist is too much of a generalist. Theoretical physics needs specialists who are able to connect the dots of established physics, not invent or reinforce speculations while ignoring the more intimate details of physics.
IMO, the degree in mathematics is the way to go for theoretical physics simply because you won’t be so foolish as to think you already understand without bothering to look it up and research it in depth. That is the big problem I see with people getting degrees in physics. They think they know it all, but really they know what they work on and the popular versions of other things.
They then fail to look up and dig deep into the details. They end up reinforcing speculative thinking that diverges from established physics. In a sense, their understanding of physics becomes an enhanced form of the average person’s Google search. I’m sorry, but particle physics has many areas of expertise, and each PhD in high energy physics has its own specialization. That is what you understand best. The rest you need to accept as things you don’t actually understand so well. Listen to those experts just like a gynecologist will listen to a heart surgeon or neurosurgeon.
I see a lot of pretending to understand without any actual depth of comprehension. Depth of comprehension requires decades of hands-on research. Even then, you know only what you’ve done. Don’t make more of it. Quit pretending you understand neutrinos when your knowledge of them shows you don’t even comprehend Gauge theory to see neutrinos are perturbations. Quit pretending you understand CMB when you clearly show no comprehension of the d’Alembertian, spherical wavefronts, or monopolar behaviors such that non-propagating heat is a static local volume (background temperature).
I have a lot of bones to pick with theoretical physicists. Theoretical physicists should be focused on one of three things:
- Writing good science fiction that inspires people to study science.
- Finding ways to make complex physics concepts accessible to students and the public.
- Coordinating observed facts into working algorithms that make testable predictions (what theory actually is).
If all you do is lip service to speculations like Big Bang, you are not contributing to physics at all. You are contributing to a speculation. Never put the theory first. Always follow the scientific method. If you can’t reproduce it here on Earth, you can’t test it. You can’t prove or disprove it. It is speculation. Speculation is not evidence. Speculation agreeing with other speculation is also not evidence. Doing these things undermines the integrity of ALL of science. If you aren’t going to do it right, please do something else.
Where you get your degrees only matters if you need a very specific line of guidance. Generally speaking, an education is what you put into it. You will take the same classes everywhere. Some places will have better contacts for getting into particular aspects of the field. That alone is often a good reason to choose one place over another. If you are simply following the scientific method to understand how the universe works, then find a school that will enable you to do that. And most likely that would look like a PhD in applied mathematics if you are serious about contributing to theoretical physics.
They would deduce as much, but would unlikely be able to back it up with data.
Both are good for a theoretical career.
At your stage it’s unlikely that you know which field of physics you’ll go into at the end of your degree. I wanted to do particle physics at first, then eventually (after changing field of focus twice during my studies and briefly considering a career in quantitative finance) realised that biophysics suited me much better. A friend of mine wanted to be an as
Both are good for a theoretical career.
At your stage it’s unlikely that you know which field of physics you’ll go into at the end of your degree. I wanted to do particle physics at first, then eventually (after changing field of focus twice during my studies and briefly considering a career in quantitative finance) realised that biophysics suited me much better. A friend of mine wanted to be an astrophysicist and now studies glass.
Mathematical physics is a particular domain of theoretical physics, which might or might not be what you’ll like the most after a few years or study. Physics is a broader course and therefore might give you a...
I have known and worked with a number of condensed matter experimentalists who were theorists in a past life, so lack of experimental experience by itself is not a deal breaker. In fact, expertise in theory or modeling is a positive asset that will make you extremely valuable in an experimental group.
That being said, you might face difficulty because your experience is in a very different field from condensed matter experiment (and different from many traditional physics disciplines). It might take extra work to convince people, but I think it can be done because you do have a physics degr
I have known and worked with a number of condensed matter experimentalists who were theorists in a past life, so lack of experimental experience by itself is not a deal breaker. In fact, expertise in theory or modeling is a positive asset that will make you extremely valuable in an experimental group.
That being said, you might face difficulty because your experience is in a very different field from condensed matter experiment (and different from many traditional physics disciplines). It might take extra work to convince people, but I think it can be done because you do have a physics degree. Here is my general advice.
- Learn basic solid state physics (Kittel level is fine)
- If you haven't applied for grad school yet, apply to programs which admit people to the department as a whole, rather than admit them to work for a specific professor. Most programs in the US are like that. You might want to select a department which has strong research in non-linear dynamics, which is the physics discipline closest to your experience (some subfields of biophysics and some niches in astrophysics also study related topics). Sell yourself as a specialist in a given topic, and show your true colors when you are admitted (many people do this). But make sure the university has people in your chosen field too.
- When you do get admitted, try to find a PhD advisor who does both experiments and numerical simulations. If one cannot be found, you can still sell your numerical expertise as an asset (which it absolutely is).
- Read about current research in your chosen field. If you don't have journal subscriptions through a university, read arXiv mesoscale and Nanoscale Physics. This will show prospective advisers that you understand the field, and it will also help you ascertain if you really want to go into this field.
That's a great question. My point of view is that it 1) really is an historical matter and 2) related to what is the measure of smartness.
1) Few hundred years ago, people were able to do both, and they actually had to do both, I mean experiments and theory, to progress. But now is a time where it is extremely difficult to do both, because both domains have made tremendous progress. Therefore, this dichotomy is nowadays meaningful, while it was not 'back then'. You can also see that in the average fields change physicists are involved nowadays. While, before, they were able to cover many field
That's a great question. My point of view is that it 1) really is an historical matter and 2) related to what is the measure of smartness.
1) Few hundred years ago, people were able to do both, and they actually had to do both, I mean experiments and theory, to progress. But now is a time where it is extremely difficult to do both, because both domains have made tremendous progress. Therefore, this dichotomy is nowadays meaningful, while it was not 'back then'. You can also see that in the average fields change physicists are involved nowadays. While, before, they were able to cover many fields, jump from one to another, it is now much more difficult. All the more for experimentalists, who very often have to deal with very complex, time consuming, and expensive setups. I would say that it is easier for theorist to do such fields change and therefore to look like smarter.
2) Celebration or fame also depend what is easier to 'sell', 'present', etc; it also depends on the historical context, the personality of the one you choose. For instance, Marie Curie got two Nobel prize, but she was a woman, not playing drums, and no picture of her fooling around with a nice, pink, tongue. So, although she is the only person winning two such distinctions in science in two different scientific fields, she isn't that famous. Also, I can speak only for the country I live in, there is a strong feeling in society that abstraction is sexier than pragmatic considerations. So this societal considerations may induce bias as 'smarter' people will, in average, choose theory if they can. In few years, you could end up asking: who is smarter, physicist or quantitative finance analyst? In many of the best French schools, best student choose quantitative finance, because of money and because it is highly math based.
And fame, I guess, is also related to the simplest way to remember things. It's easier to remember that the famous Boson that has recently been identified "belongs" to M. Higgs rather than to a scientific conglomerate. Note also that it sometimes is a question of timing, or else. For instance, who knows or remembers the name Englert or Brout or Hagen or Guralnik? (I myself had to google that)
I am not sure this is a very structured answer, but my point is that I don't think one can rate each "species" of physicist. There are too many parameters that influence the result. What I am sure of is that when you see a bright one, you will recognize him/her. And what I am sure of, is that for Feynman, Landau and Heisenberg, they have been discussing hours, days, all their life, with experimentalists, and that cross fertilizing is most often where the richness comes from.
Experimental Physics do experiments to either discover new physical processes, test theories, make new devices, materials, or states of matter. Good experimentalists need a good grasp of the theory.
Theoretical Physicists develop new models to explain experiments, predict new experiments, and pull together a logical framework ultimately based upon fundamental laws of nature. A good theorist needs an excellent mastery of mathematics and how to make physically motivated approximations (numerical and analytical) to the resulting equations. He or she also needs to be well aware of current experimen
Experimental Physics do experiments to either discover new physical processes, test theories, make new devices, materials, or states of matter. Good experimentalists need a good grasp of the theory.
Theoretical Physicists develop new models to explain experiments, predict new experiments, and pull together a logical framework ultimately based upon fundamental laws of nature. A good theorist needs an excellent mastery of mathematics and how to make physically motivated approximations (numerical and analytical) to the resulting equations. He or she also needs to be well aware of current experiments in his/her field and often works in collaboration with an experimental effort.
Mathematical physicists are develop new or improved mathematical methods for solving the various types of equations that arise. Often there is a physical problem in mind, but the motivation is to develop new math methods rather to understand a physical problem or experiment.
As a theorist, I collaborate with a number of experimental groups and work on developing new theoretical methods that can be used to better understand the physical systems and processes. I consider my self more a consumer of mathematics rather than a developer of new mathematics since I’m happy to take a given math result or method and apply it to a new problem I’m trying to solve.
As others have pointed out that depends on your interests and personality. I will say though that if you are serious about either one of those topics you need a PhD, and you should go to the best graduate school you can be accepted into. I would also recommend having a clear vision of what your goals are and plan that our in advance as much as you can. I was torn between the two myself and I stuck with physics because I always felt like it was pushing the limits of mathematics so the rules are not as clear cut. That is something I personally enjoyed. One thing I disliked about physics is they
As others have pointed out that depends on your interests and personality. I will say though that if you are serious about either one of those topics you need a PhD, and you should go to the best graduate school you can be accepted into. I would also recommend having a clear vision of what your goals are and plan that our in advance as much as you can. I was torn between the two myself and I stuck with physics because I always felt like it was pushing the limits of mathematics so the rules are not as clear cut. That is something I personally enjoyed. One thing I disliked about physics is they tend to be rigid in their thinking - it’s harder to push new ideas whereas mathematicians tend to be more fluid - at least that was my impression. With either one of these careers you can plan on staying in academia if you expect to work in that career the rest of your life. I know a lot of people who wind up doing something else like software or engineering because of the lack of opportunities for them. That’s why it’s important to get a good start by going to the best graduate school you can and find an advisor who has connections and can get you off to a good start.
Theoretical physics is about finding ideas, and proposing them to the world. Great and fun stuff.
Experimental physics is the effort to affirm/confirm, or refute, that which has been theorized by others. Without theories, what would there be to experiment in the search for? Seems a worthy, a necessary, but… somewhat secondary to the cause. No disrespect intended. And not to say there is not lots of opportunity for discovery whilst working in experimentation, especially in fields such as materials, energy, and other fields.
In MY opinion, Theoretical is more fun. Especially when successful. Theor
Theoretical physics is about finding ideas, and proposing them to the world. Great and fun stuff.
Experimental physics is the effort to affirm/confirm, or refute, that which has been theorized by others. Without theories, what would there be to experiment in the search for? Seems a worthy, a necessary, but… somewhat secondary to the cause. No disrespect intended. And not to say there is not lots of opportunity for discovery whilst working in experimentation, especially in fields such as materials, energy, and other fields.
In MY opinion, Theoretical is more fun. Especially when successful. Theorizing and coming up with nothing, well that seems way less fun. I don’t know what that would feel like. Same with having an experiment and having it fail totally, or provide no conclusive data. Proving or refuting nothing. That must be a drag.
Still. Theoretical. My preference.
“What do you think about the theoretical/experimental divide in physics? Does it serve physics well?”
What divide? Experimental and theoretical work complement and complete each other. Experimentalists are not arguing for one thing while theorists argue for something else.
Theorists read experimental papers, looking for new results to explain. Experimentalists read theoretical papers, looking for new theories to test. As a modeler I needed experimental data to calibrate and validate my models.
The collaboration between theory and experiment serves all the sciences well.
“What do you think about the theoretical/experimental divide in physics? Does it serve physics well?”
What divide? Experimental and theoretical work complement and complete each other. Experimentalists are not arguing for one thing while theorists argue for something else.
Theorists read experimental papers, looking for new results to explain. Experimentalists read theoretical papers, looking for new theories to test. As a modeler I needed experimental data to calibrate and validate my models.
The collaboration between theory and experiment serves all the sciences well.
Simply put, phenomenology is a part of the process through which we gain an understanding of which phenomena are predicted by a given theory or model.
Theories and models typically have several aspects that are not completely fixed, like masses of particles. These are usually parameters of theory/model.
Phenomenologists explore what can be expected to be found by experiments for different scenarios related to the different values that the parameters of a theory/model can take.
Phenomenology is at the interface between theory and experiment. Many times it serves as an expression of the possibiliti
Simply put, phenomenology is a part of the process through which we gain an understanding of which phenomena are predicted by a given theory or model.
Theories and models typically have several aspects that are not completely fixed, like masses of particles. These are usually parameters of theory/model.
Phenomenologists explore what can be expected to be found by experiments for different scenarios related to the different values that the parameters of a theory/model can take.
Phenomenology is at the interface between theory and experiment. Many times it serves as an expression of the possibilities that the former imply for the latter, but it also has an important converse role in interpreting findings of the latter as constraints on the former.
Theoretica physicists use complex math to test theories. Experimental physicists design experiments to test theories
It is reasonable to take any course you love and desire. No course taken prior to a pre-requisite or required course is ever a waste of time or unreasonable. I fell in love with physics because I was introduced to theoretical physics. This was after I had all ready taken a course in physics that I absolutely hated! The professor was very smart but he was not a good teacher. He spoke to the board a
It is reasonable to take any course you love and desire. No course taken prior to a pre-requisite or required course is ever a waste of time or unreasonable. I fell in love with physics because I was introduced to theoretical physics. This was after I had all ready taken a course in physics that I absolutely hated! The professor was very smart but he was not a good teacher. He spoke to the board and forgot that we were not all him. In hindsight, I realize how Poetry, Biology and Philosophy helped shape my love for physics. I was able to understand it through those realms when I could not understand it through equations. To love something, you really have to be able to understand and comprehend what that realm has to say. You have to speak the same language or at the very least understand it. I could not. I had to fall back back on the abstract form of everything in order to comprehend that which I wanted to learn. To love s...
Being a question that has once been on my mind for quite a while, I postulate that I am qualified to answer. Based on this axiom, I sadly have to say that there is not really a definitive answer to that.
In my understanding mathematical physics is quite young and has in recent (that is, the last 50–100) years been the connecting link between physics and mathematics, not in the way that physicists are more linked to mathematics, no, they already are, ideally, but rather in the opposite direction that mathematicians who have absolutely no clue about physics can contribute their wisdom to physics.
Being a question that has once been on my mind for quite a while, I postulate that I am qualified to answer. Based on this axiom, I sadly have to say that there is not really a definitive answer to that.
In my understanding mathematical physics is quite young and has in recent (that is, the last 50–100) years been the connecting link between physics and mathematics, not in the way that physicists are more linked to mathematics, no, they already are, ideally, but rather in the opposite direction that mathematicians who have absolutely no clue about physics can contribute their wisdom to physics. As such, mathematical physics is still physically-motivated but much more independent of physics as such, more mathematical (thus based on pure reason not on laws and rules derived from fundamental nature observation).
The reason is that over the centuries specialist fields have diversified quite a lot and it has become much harder to be universally-educated and have a satisfying level of achievement. Many years ago a physicist also was a full mathematician, that is no longer the norm today, although very helpful and I still work to achieve that myself I have to admit, and vice versa (!), being philosophers, jurists all together in personal union.
Theoretical physics uses much of mathematical tools but is in many points very, and hold on, this is from a very strict mathematical standpoint, unmathmatical as well as practical in a scientific meaning. Theoretical physicists often use mathematical concepts that mathematicians are not fully sure to be valid yet, making pure mathematicians cringe.
I am not a biblographer, so treat this answer as what it is, a personal opinion and a little overview.
I hope I could help.
Well I suppose you could be a string theorist then you won’t have to worry about pesky things like your theory actually being testable.
I jest! I jest!
You want your theory to be tested? You want your theory to have some chance in heck of being remotely true?
You need to know how the experimentalists will test your ideas.
Particle physics isn't exactly a field in which having a separation between experiment and theory makes sense anymore. We're at the point where we can compute out cross sections of particle interactions using theory (QFT, QCD, QED, etc...) and then, for the most part, carry out experiments at the colliders to try and observe evidence of the theory. Most of the experimentalists I've met are relativ
Particle physics isn't exactly a field in which having a separation between experiment and theory makes sense anymore. We're at the point where we can compute out cross sections of particle interactions using theory (QFT, QCD, QED, etc...) and then, for the most part, carry out experiments at the colliders to try and observe evidence of the theory. Most of the experimentalists I've met are relatively well-versed in theory.
If all you really strictly care about is going towards a bachelor's - expe...
The theory is just Ratta. But by doing experiments you are capable of having a great command of your knowledge
At the same time, theory and experimental analysis are both better.