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Kyle Montanio

Want to see (or teach) how hard it is to get a US green card? This game does a good job showing why the green card acceptance rate is around 3%.

Today I learned we still ask if the applicant is, or ever was, a communist, and deny accordingly..

thegreencardgame.com/factor/3e

The Green Card Game - See If You Can Find Your Path to Citizenship

www.thegreencardgame.com

@FantasticalEconomics if I was a foreign citizen I would be banned from being a US citizen for my politics

@burnoutqueen

Yeah, I feel like many of us here on the fediverse fall into that category haha

@FantasticalEconomics So revealing. Thanks for sharing!

Wonder how "the game" will change as time progresses.

@Furthering

I can't imagine it will get any easier to win, unless you have a spare $5 mil of course.

@FantasticalEconomics - which is, of course, the kind of thing that can tempt people to lie about their past, which means that honest people are rejected & the ones who get through are not only willing to lie, but also good at it... sounds like a great strategy 🙄

@jwcph

Very, very true. Bad incentives, worse outcomes.

@jandi

Awesome, thanks for sharing that resource as well!

@civio

@FantasticalEconomics this has to be a joke... Right? The website is not official... ?

@elduvelle @FantasticalEconomics the game is not, but that's a real reason for desk-rejection.

@FantasticalEconomics Good that a
I am an anarchist /j

I would've only 0.0xx chance of making it thru Diversity, no chance of self-funded and ~60% of company-funded *if* I get an offer of 180K or so and they can argue that my skills are unique. Ffs, this is so backwards.

@FantasticalEconomics

As a manager of an international firm that often moves staff with specialized skills in and out of the U.S. for projects this is a very good representation of how frustrating and convoluted the US immigration system is. It is very challenging to bring in immigrant workers that are highly skilled and meet all the health and safety requirements. It is nearly impossible to enter the U.S legally if you are poor, fleeing a bad situation, and have limited resources.

The US doesn't have an illegal immigration problem. It has an immigration system that is so badly broken that it forces immigrants to work outside that system. It's a system designed to create a problem for political gain and, likely, with racist underpinnings.

@NJWookie

Those are good insights. I fully agree the immigration system is beyond broken, and it's important hearing the stories from the business side to showcase just how hard it is even for the most privileged trying to immigrate.

@FantasticalEconomics @NJWookie this is the reason the u.s., if we survive, needs a major do over. The dems have been incremental in their moves “forward”, like a snail, and the republicans have gone outright conspiracy to overthrow our democracy for profit Immigration could and should have been fixed decades ago.😿🇪🇺🇨🇦🇺🇦

@lillyfinch @FantasticalEconomics @NJWookie

I think I wouldn’t be the only person saying that the far end of this circumstance, we find herself in crossing over to the other side if you will will not look anything like the landscape we currently inhabit.

All the major actors that politically, and even the nature of the United States are subject to irrevocable changes.

The men waging war on the US population from the WH fully intend to destroy the US as a political and economic entity.

@lillyfinch @FantasticalEconomics @NJWookie

The emptied out husk of US institutions. They’re not a place to pick up the pieces from. Instead, because we need to take these measures anyway to survive the situation we are in on multiple fronts. We have to rebuild from the ground up starting with with our communities and rebuild their own economic agency, because the federal government is largely disintegrated now effectively.

Project 2025 will be largely completed: destroy the federal gov.

@lillyfinch @FantasticalEconomics @NJWookie

The United States is not the United States without the federal government. That’s the union.

In the states, each of them, their populations, their residence are going to have to sort out all sorts of things that had been the province of the federal government

@FantasticalEconomics Who in their right mind would want a green card?

@konsulenten

... All the folk who are fleeing conflicts globally and those with little to no economic opportunity in Latin American countries decimated by US foreign policy, for starters, are people looking for a US green card...

@FantasticalEconomics not long ago that question was still in the visitor visa, not sure if it has been removed

@FantasticalEconomics You can't have ever been a Communist, but it's ok if you were a Nazi any time except during WWII.

uspol, inpol

@FantasticalEconomics@geekdom.social the communist thing is wild. i am related to many communist party members- my cousin's grandpa, my other cousin's wife(went to their marriage novemberish and the communist former chief minister of their state was there), and i think there's a few more. it is absurd that they would be denied a green card for being members of one of the major oppositon parties in india.

@piku

It's completely absurd. The whole process is, but that sends out as a big red flag

@FantasticalEconomics most of the first questions are also asked to nonimmigrants. So someone wanting a tourist or student visa would also be ineligible if any of those questions are marked "true"