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Mar 8, 2025 at 6:28am coldice said:

Aug 14, 2024 at 2:37pm gordon said:

During the 2020 lockdown in Spain, someone filmed DJ Albert Valls blasting music from his balcony to simulate a concert. The original video was online for three and a half years and is now nowhere to be found.

Video is available on Twitter: x.com/valenciacf/status/1244361185467731973

By the way, do you have any idea why the original was deleted from YouTube?

The error message reads "This channel does not exist." So it does not appear the channel (Adrián Perez) was removed for violating YouTube terms of service, so it might have been a voluntary deletion. Do you know?

(Twitter video file, mirrored just in case - we don't want to lose it again.)

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There was a 3D cartoon movie mixed with a music video.

That 3D cartoon movie contained a male character with a circular hole in his chest (you could see through it like in this Mark Rober video but without blood or anything creepy), signifying that he is "looking for love" or something like that. The characters did not have human-like proportions as far as I remember.

A YouTube channel named "Agent 47" (later renamed to "Apocalypse 47") (SocialBlade data) mixed movie scenes (real-life, not animated) with popular music. Although this qualifies as fair use, their channel was terminated in late 2019, leading to the loss of all videos.

I remember that channel contained music video mixes for "Syn Cole - Feel Good" and for "Elektronomia - Limitless".

A few days after the 2014 Elliot Rodger rampage, Tyrone Magnus made three videos reacting to Rodger's videos. These videos were on YouTube until at least 2021 (!) (well after the termination of Rodger himself and Mumkey Jones, which both occured in 2018, so it seems it was unrelated to that), yet no one re-uploaded them yet and the Wayback Machine doesn't have any of them either.

Elliot Rodger Was a RACIST!!! (2021 watch page)
Elliot Rodger's Retribution | Life is So Unfair Because Girls [FULL] REACTION!!!
Elliot Rodger's Retribution REACTION!!! (2021 watch page)

There was a cartoon movie with a story similar to "Groundhog Day", meaning the protagonist woke up every day and experienced a similar timeline of events, but sometimes something occasionally changed.

In that cartoon movie, the male protagonist was seen waking up (bed was in upper left corner of room from viewing angle), then there was something like a time lapse where he went to work then came bad and them went to bed, repeating many times. There was also a scene where he got a woman pregnant and later the child was shown in the video as far as I remember.

That cartoon movie had no nudity in it and the animated characters did not look realistic. They looked somewhat like the characters by Steve Cutts.

Last Edit: 22 hours ago by gordon: clarification

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Lost YouTube Videos You Remember Watching yesterday at 7:56am

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Mar 8, 2025 at 6:28am coldice said:

Aug 14, 2024 at 2:37pm gordon said:

During the 2020 lockdown in Spain, someone filmed DJ Albert Valls blasting music from his balcony to simulate a concert. The original video was online for three and a half years and is now nowhere to be found.

Video is available on Twitter: x.com/valenciacf/status/1244361185467731973

Enjoy. I love the forums more than Discord, because Discord is not indexable which makes it a horrible place. I only was able to find the video because you posted the original filename. Thanks for sharing! Take care.

Thanks dude!!!

And yes, I agree. Discord is epheremal and also JavaScript-walled.

Because in 10 years nothing you built today that depends on JS for the content will be available, visible, or archived anywhere on the web.

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Anything posted in places not indexable or archivable will be lost to history.

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German traffic safety campaign "Sag' nein zu Hubert" (2011) Feb 3, 2025 at 5:31pm

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In 2011, the "German traffic safety council" (Deutscher Verkehrssicherheitsrat, or "DVR") launched a traffic safety campaign with a series of traffic safety films, called "Sag' nein zu Hubert" ("say no to Hubert"). (archive of campaign site, archive 2)

In this short film series, a man named Hubert goes hitchhiking and fools his drivers into unsafe behaviours. The series was available on YouTube until at least 2019. (2018 archive with thumbnails)

Now, the channel shows a 404 error and any video shows the generic "This video is unavailable" error message. There is no indication as to why the channel vanished, but it appears either the DVR voluntarily took it down, or YouTube purged old channels to save space. This channel was over eight years old at that point.

Last Edit: Feb 3, 2025 at 7:24pm by gordon: fix spelling, + archive 2

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Deleted YouTube channel Neon Biscuit [Comen] (2016-2019) Sep 29, 2024 at 7:28pm

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Sep 29, 2024 at 11:59am ughschalooob said:

I do, checked it thru the wayback machine several times but despite being saved on there before it was deleted it won't load :/

youtube.com/channel/UC9ktjI6aLUhHCWDG7nkaNQQ

(and yes it is lol)

It appears the earliest Wayback captures are redirects to the mobile version of YouTube. Since it is JavaScript-based instead of HTML-based, meaning the browser downloads a program that then loads the content instead of loading the content directly, it becomes much more difficult to archive.

The desktop edition of the website is JavaScript-based too (it's called "polymer"), but it appears the developers at the Wayback Machine put more work into making it able to be archived and displayed.

Nowadays, the Wayback Machine is able to sometimes archive YouTube polymer pages, but it wasn't in 2019.

Before YouTube switched to polymer in August 2017, it was HTML-based so archival was easy (except comments, which were AJAX-loaded).

Comments were HTML-based until 2013. This is why watch pages prior to 2013 contain visible comments. Back then it was lightweight and easy to archive, not the bloated mess of today.

Last Edit: Sep 29, 2024 at 9:04pm by gordon: polymer clarification

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Cartoon with a personified bird who owns a shopping mall Sep 29, 2024 at 6:05pm

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Aug 15, 2024 at 11:08am tostr said:

BoJack Horseman?
Tuca And Bertie?
Regular Show?

Not BoJack Horseman because I can't remember any horses in that show.

Tuca And Bertie commenced in 2019 so it can't be it.

Regular Show has a shopping mall but it looks different.

Aug 17, 2024 at 12:50am surrealkangaroo said:

Maybe Breadwinners?

I remember having watched this show at some point, and it commenced in 2014, so there is a slight possibility this is it, but I could not find any pictures of this show containing any shopping mall.

Can you name an episode which contains a shopping mall?

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YouTube removed its 720p+audio format, Wayback Machine limited to 360p. Sep 29, 2024 at 5:46am

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YouTube recently got rid of format code 22 ("itag=22" in the googlevideo.com URL). This was the format code for 720p+audio in one file. While videos can still be watched in 720p, those are made from separate video and audio streams and merged locally rather than being served as a finished file.

Now, only the format code 18 (360p+audio) contains both video and audio in one format. All the other formats have separated video and audio streams that are merged by the watcher's computer.

Here is a sample output of the format list from Baby Shark, using ytdlp -F www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZsoesa55w :

ID  EXT   RESOLUTION FPS CH │   FILESIZE   TBR PROTO │ VCODEC          VBR ACODEC      ABR ASR MORE INFO
───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
sb3 mhtml 48x27        1    │                  mhtml │ images                                  storyboard
sb2 mhtml 80x45        1    │                  mhtml │ images                                  storyboard
sb1 mhtml 160x90       1    │                  mhtml │ images                                  storyboard
sb0 mhtml 320x180      1    │                  mhtml │ images                                  storyboard
233 mp4   audio only        │                  m3u8  │ audio only          unknown             Default
234 mp4   audio only        │                  m3u8  │ audio only          unknown             Default
249 webm  audio only      2 │  739.04KiB   44k https │ audio only          opus        44k 48k low, THROTTLED, webm_dash
250 webm  audio only      2 │  967.11KiB   58k https │ audio only          opus        58k 48k low, THROTTLED, webm_dash
139 m4a   audio only      2 │  811.52KiB   49k https │ audio only          mp4a.40.5   49k 22k low, m4a_dash
251 webm  audio only      2 │    1.83MiB  113k https │ audio only          opus       113k 48k medium, THROTTLED, webm_dash
140 m4a   audio only      2 │    2.10MiB  130k https │ audio only          mp4a.40.2  130k 44k medium, m4a_dash
602 mp4   256x144     15    │ ~  1.61MiB  100k m3u8  │ vp09.00.10.08  100k video only
394 mp4   256x144     30    │    1.11MiB   68k https │ av01.0.00M.08   68k video only          144p, THROTTLED, mp4_dash
278 webm  256x144     30    │    1.49MiB   92k https │ vp9             92k video only          144p, THROTTLED, webm_dash
269 mp4   256x144     30    │ ~  2.95MiB  182k m3u8  │ avc1.4D400C    182k video only
160 mp4   256x144     30    │    1.55MiB   96k https │ avc1.4D400C     96k video only          144p, mp4_dash
603 mp4   256x144     30    │ ~  2.53MiB  156k m3u8  │ vp09.00.11.08  156k video only
395 mp4   426x240     30    │    2.06MiB  127k https │ av01.0.00M.08  127k video only          240p, THROTTLED, mp4_dash
242 webm  426x240     30    │    3.16MiB  195k https │ vp9            195k video only          240p, THROTTLED, webm_dash
229 mp4   426x240     30    │ ~  4.88MiB  301k m3u8  │ avc1.4D4015    301k video only
133 mp4   426x240     30    │    2.75MiB  169k https │ avc1.4D4015    169k video only          240p, mp4_dash
604 mp4   426x240     30    │ ~  4.68MiB  289k m3u8  │ vp09.00.20.08  289k video only
396 mp4   640x360     30    │    4.06MiB  250k https │ av01.0.01M.08  250k video only          360p, THROTTLED, mp4_dash
18  mp4   640x360     30  2 │ ≈  7.25MiB  447k https │ avc1.42001E         mp4a.40.2       44k 360p, THROTTLED
243 webm  640x360     30    │    5.44MiB  335k https │ vp9            335k video only          360p, THROTTLED, webm_dash
230 mp4   640x360     30    │ ~ 12.24MiB  755k m3u8  │ avc1.4D401E    755k video only
134 mp4   640x360     30    │    5.16MiB  318k https │ avc1.4D401E    318k video only          360p, mp4_dash
605 mp4   640x360     30    │ ~  9.19MiB  567k m3u8  │ vp09.00.21.08  567k video only
397 mp4   854x480     30    │    6.79MiB  419k https │ av01.0.04M.08  419k video only          480p, THROTTLED, mp4_dash
244 webm  854x480     30    │    8.45MiB  521k https │ vp9            521k video only          480p, THROTTLED, webm_dash
231 mp4   854x480     30    │ ~ 16.71MiB 1031k m3u8  │ avc1.4D401F   1031k video only
135 mp4   854x480     30    │    7.37MiB  455k https │ avc1.4D401F    455k video only          480p, mp4_dash
606 mp4   854x480     30    │ ~ 15.11MiB  932k m3u8  │ vp09.00.30.08  932k video only
398 mp4   1280x720    30    │   12.29MiB  758k https │ av01.0.05M.08  758k video only          720p, THROTTLED, mp4_dash
247 webm  1280x720    30    │   14.23MiB  877k https │ vp9            877k video only          720p, THROTTLED, webm_dash
232 mp4   1280x720    30    │ ~ 26.20MiB 1616k m3u8  │ avc1.4D401F   1616k video only
136 mp4   1280x720    30    │   12.39MiB  764k https │ avc1.4D401F    764k video only          720p, mp4_dash
609 mp4   1280x720    30    │ ~ 27.56MiB 1700k m3u8  │ vp09.00.31.08 1700k video only
399 mp4   1920x1080   30    │   20.50MiB 1264k https │ av01.0.08M.08 1264k video only          1080p, THROTTLED, mp4_dash
248 webm  1920x1080   30    │   27.09MiB 1670k https │ vp9           1670k video only          1080p, THROTTLED, webm_dash
270 mp4   1920x1080   30    │ ~ 73.26MiB 4518k m3u8  │ avc1.640028   4518k video only
137 mp4   1920x1080   30    │   36.22MiB 2234k https │ avc1.640028   2234k video only          1080p, mp4_dash
614 mp4   1920x1080   30    │ ~ 44.98MiB 2775k m3u8  │ vp09.00.40.08 2775k video only
616 mp4   1920x1080   30    │ ~ 92.56MiB 5709k m3u8  │ vp09.00.40.08 5709k video only          Premium

As you may notice, format code 18 is the only format that has both a video and an audio track in one file. There used to be a format code 22 which has an audio track but is in 720p. YouTube got rid of that a few months ago. YouTube also used to have a format code 37 which was 1080p+audio, but they got rid of that many years ago, around 2015.

youtube-dl and ytdlp work by downloading the video and audio tracks separately and merging them into one MP4 or WEBM file locally. You can also manually specify formats like this (in both youtube-dl and ytdlp):

ytdlp -f 232+140
This downloads the muted 720p version (format code 232) with the audio-only track from format code 140 and merges them into one file locally. Formats that are marked as "throttled" can not be downloaded.

Since the Wayback Machine used format code 22 to archive YouTube videos that were available in at least 720p, it now falls back on format code 18, so the Wayback Machine will only be archiving YouTube videos in garbage 360p for the foreseeable future.

I am writing this to encourage you to save any YouTube videos that you think are worth preserving in 720p or higher, even if the Wayback Machine has already saved it. Remember, more than half of what was on YouTube in 2010 is gone. This means there probably is a majority chance that any given video you watch today will no longer be on YouTube by 2034.

Uploaders take down videos, channels get terminated, taking all videos with them, and Google might decide to do another purge like they did to older unlisted videos in 2021.

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Most viewed lost videos Sep 28, 2024 at 3:43pm

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The Dutch channel "Top Dingen" (later renamed to "Top Things") was wildly popular in 2018 and 2019. It contained lots of prank and rage compilation videos, some with tens of millions of views. Sadly, much of its history has been wiped for unknown reasons.

The video "Top 50 OH SHIT moments!" was infront of 1.6 million eyes, yet all that remains today is a reaction video with a ceiling fan background.

As usual, the Wayback Machine gave up after the first attempt to archive the video. Thankfully, it succeeded in archiving at least some of the other videos.

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How to find the source of stolen music? Sep 3, 2024 at 7:42am

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Aug 15, 2024 at 3:56am strongfox said:

Shazam works 99% of the time unless someone remixed the song or rapped over an instrumental or similar.

Just tried it on Mr. Sunny Face, and this is the result:

www.shazam.com/song/1679957324/apna-raaj

Apna Raaj - Amani & ToffeeTV

Yet another narrated audio track that uses it as background music.

Perhaps Shazam knows the original but doesn't show it because it can only show one result at a time. This is why I am looking for a multi-result music recognition service.

Midomi.com showed multiple results while it worked, but it is now defunct.

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Windows XP End of Life VIdeo Sep 3, 2024 at 7:31am MantleM likes this

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Post by gordon on Sep 3, 2024 at 7:31am

Try this: web.archive.org/web/20141223235640/www.youtube.com/results?search_query=windows+xp

Is it among those videos?

Aug 20, 2024 at 8:36am simuratedyt said:

alright, made a thread on the windows xp forums about this video, hopefully someone recognizes.

Aug 21, 2024 at 12:15am simuratedyt said:

welp, they banned me because they thought it was spam, great.

Which Windows XP forum in particular? Reddit? Tom's Hardware? WindowsForum?

Just want to know in order to avoid wasting time on it.

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Are there any Wikimedia Commons administrators here? Aug 20, 2024 at 6:17pm

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Aug 15, 2024 at 4:00am strongfox said:

Why is this in this section when it has nothing to do with lost media? It's simply asking a question for unrelated to lost media. It should be in help or LMW Discussion.

"LMW discussion" is "For discussion of the LMW", and "Help" is "Need help with the site? Here's where to ask". It appeared to me that those forums are about LMW itself, not about external sites. But if this thread fits there better, feel free to move it there.

Edit: Just realized it was already moved. Thank you.

Last Edit: Aug 20, 2024 at 6:18pm by gordon: already moved

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How to find the source of stolen music? Aug 15, 2024 at 12:25am

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It seems TuneCore.com and Ingrooves are also abused to distribute stolen music.
Somehow, these tracks can be found using AHA-Music but are unplayable on YouTube.

Here is a link to a YouTube video that has 1555 views but is now blocked in every region. It was linked from this Reddit comment.

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How to find the source of stolen music? Aug 14, 2024 at 11:18pm

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Sometimes, music identification services fail to identify the real name of a sound track because some video used it as a background music or stole it entirely.

For example, "Mr. Sunny Face" is a track by Wayne Jones from the YouTube audio library.

If you plug it into AHA-Music, it will return the titles of viral YouTube videos that used it, or obscure DistroKid videos that stole it, such as "Must Watch Fun - Bowdelle" (no YouTube URL), "Crossing paths - Peaceful Reflections Studio" (YouTube URL, a stolen copy of that song), and "Bad Money" by Mark Angel Comedy (YouTube URL, uses it as background music).

If you plug some tracks by "Vibe Tracks", you might get results of "DJoNemesis" who just added low-quality voiceovers. For example, Baffo d'Oro (DJoNemesis & Lilly Golden Version Mix) is from Vibe Tracks - Fun.

Because AHA-Music shows nothing beyond one result, it can not get past videos that stole it or viral videos that used it as background music.

Are there any music identification services that can show multiple results?

Midomi.com / SoundHound actually did, but it is defective.

And where do music identification services get their results from? It's not like AHA-Music crawls the entirety of YouTube, right?

Last Edit: Aug 14, 2024 at 11:30pm by gordon: missing dash

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Cartoon with a personified bird who owns a shopping mall Aug 14, 2024 at 4:12pm

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There was a cartoon series with a personified bird who owns a shopping mall. (There is a slight chance that it was a different animal, but it very likely was a bird but with arms and legs.)

In one of the episodes, there was a book which predicted the weather for a very long time. One of the characters read from that book and everything he read happened outside the windows in real time. Then they read the word "storm" from that book but didn't finish reading. It was something like "storm of rainbows" or something like that. The people stayed inside the mall and missed out on the good weather thinking the weather would be bad.

Can anyone name this series?

It can't be "Bird & Squirrel" because that premiered in 2019. I watched that episode in 2014 or earlier, so it couldn't have been that.

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