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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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>>46294299 (OP)
Why fetish art

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>>46294299 (OP)
It seems Ratka ate too much cheese
hohohoho

>>46294410
Satoko you're so cute I love you!

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>>46294463
Satoko loves you too, anon.

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>>46294490
:D

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>>46294299 (OP)
life imitates art

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>>46294410
and macaroons

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ENTER

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EXIT

>>46294299 (OP)
so small...

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>>46294573

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I've seen mysteries you people wouldn't believe.

Post ur best dbz Rikas

>>46294835
>>46288507 →

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>>46294990
Thanks for the kino

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>>46295015
Yes... kino lives forever in the heart.

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2hu anons and higurashi anons are like this

>>46294409
Isn't this the expansion thread?

>>46295044
Keep befriending a nigger who cooms to ai art and shitoko breast, annoying fuck

shut up, jerking off to fat art
touhoubro btw

>>46294573
>>46294834
Battler looks so fuckable

>read and enjoyed umi
>posting newground characters
>a cancerous incarnation
you're pathetic, battlernigger. go back wanking to your shitty slut, alcox

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>>46294299 (OP)

>>46294835
phew, thank god Akira Toriyama tanked Ryukishis misfortune with his fortune. what we would've done without him!

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nipa

>>46295402
Very funny anon >:(

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mii

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try again, dummy

>>46296010
nice balls

>>46296078
sure, psychopath angelo

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keep being a pajeet and a scum of life, you literal dirtface. a fucking piece of shit with a vendetta

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Were they just bullshitting here?

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>>46295943
AU where Battler solves the epitaph and reunites with Shannon-chan WHEN?

>>46296380
Jojibros...
We cannot fight back against him...

>>46295681
so he really won't drop the premise, huh...

rhymes well with ratoko! everything rhymes well toko including shitoko!

now that I have finished wtc there is no reason to stay here, the mental illness trapped in here is off the charts. until phase 2 gets released: see you again, have a nice day

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>>46297261
See you tomorrow

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>>46296656
I've never seen a jojifag once

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>>46297261
im stuck in here until i read umi and ciconia, pray for me..

>>46297261
farewell.

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>>46297261
I hope you enjoyed wtc

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>>46297465
That's why jojibros are in a perpetual state of losing.

>>46296010
>>46296103
>>46296219
the rat is out of the bag

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a human made Rika

>>46297784
rare pic, we almost don't get to see her without her rodent characteristics

>>46297816
There's lots of western art that looks fine. Surely you can tell people on this gen just cherry pick ugly art to bait

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even shitokofans on twatter have self-awareness and calling her cunt

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>>46294410
>>46294490
>>46294524
Too pure for this general.

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Jojibros, let's just be happy for them.

>>46297905
>relying to a poster who is fueling flames by namecalling and dissing on characters and increasing war waging between anons
sure a genuine post

>>46297905
thats right, lets go back to our cord, sister

>>46297926
Ikuko and Tohya look so cute here

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>>46297933
I never used the rikacord in my life. I prefer here.

>>46297952
post the unedited pic, it looks good

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>>46297973
https://litter.catbox.moe/yrmzyh.jpg

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>>46298004
why you're acting like a suicidal 13 year old emo kid with a Rika hate complex? ratokofan?

>>46298004
Delete this rat I don't want to see it

>>46298023
fuck off rika hater, i will not delete her

>>46298026
>>46298023
>>46298004
>>46297973
>>46297952
>>46297905
>>46297811
the fuck is this brainfuckery now?

cant ratokocord fuck off from the face of earth?

>rikacord
nice false accusation, retarded sperg

>>46297465
Shannon literally fell for the second guy who ever treated her like a lady. Maybe the first, because mini Battler was probably a mini brat, and she liked it. George has no other redeeming qualities except forced chivalry.

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>>46298325
>George has no redeeming qualities
Joji... I'm sorry... I failed you again...

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>>46297465
i've only ever seen ironic jojifags here, and the only person i've seen who iwas close to being an actual jojifag was KUYA, and uh as you may be able to tell from her only posting toohoos and horses now that didn't exactly go well

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New Mei stuff:
Keiichi:
https://files.catbox.moe/w03h7x.txt
Shion:
https://files.catbox.moe/wknn8n.txt

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>>46298578

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>>46298592

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>>46298607

>>46298607
What in the goddamn? Native Amerimelon?
On a tangent- I'd love to see art of Mion shooting guns and "it aint me"ing in a helicopter in the desert like the story describes. The LARPing they did that freaks Keiichi out.

>>46298607
>>46298619
inb4 the wiki says this is 'too racist' and doesn't add it

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>>46297465
Thanks for confirming that you are a 2022 newfaggot.

>>46298767
It's Shion, actually. The last event was about Natsumi ended up in a fantasy world with people divided in five elemental tribes, and with the way it ended it was clear they were continuing the story. It didn't really have a real ending at all, with them talking about uniting the tribes, and just ending with the wind/sky alliance confirmed and then a brief Rika cameo elsewhere.

Sky -> Rena
Wind -> Satoko
Earth -> Shion
Water -> Rika (appeared in the event, but not card, probably will be in the next event banner)
Fire -> ??? (Nao, Kazuho, Miyuki, Chisame, Natsumi, Keiichi and Teppei are all out due to already appearing in different roles in the first event)

>>46299067
Reading the story, it's confirmed Mion is fire. So, yeah, next banner will be fire Mion and water Rika.

>>46298773
I don't think they've added any cards since October, so that's a moot point already.

I'm not sure if there's even anyone else but me ripping this stuff these days.

demented fucker above me

Why are angefags the only civilized waifufags

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Ciconiabros

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>>46299720
No idea. Maybe it's just because everyone rallied behind the original Angefag against the other two.
You know, those two.

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I recently finished the higurashi VN. I thought it was really good and I couldn't stop playing, the club activities at the beginning are really fun. Chapter 1 is the best because it's the one that scared me the most, unfortunately the other chapters didn't even come close to scaring me like the first chapter did and Rena is my favorite girl. I don't intend to read the other bonus chapters because apparently ryukishi didn't write it (I know it's a stupid reason but I just wanted the canon), I just played Hinamizawa Bus Stop after this.

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>>46299720
And Shionbros.

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>>46299960
>Rena is my favorite girl
Based.
The only other bonus chapter he *did* write is Saikoroshi, which acts as an epilogue to the Hinamizawa saga.
But you don't need to read it. Better move onto Umineko, ryu07's actual Magnum Opus.

>>46299960
R07 wrote all pc bonus arcs. It's the console arcs that weren't by him. Although the only "serious" pc arcs after the original are Saikoroshi and Hinamizawa Bus Stop. Everything else is comedic focused, even Outbreak/Kamikashimashi that initially appear serious.

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>>46299961
What about Mionmen?

>>46299961
Ok those too. Angefags tend to be shionbros too anyway

>>46300006
>kami is actually officially translated on Steam
I just can't bring myself to read that shit. It's the dumbest stuff put to notepad.

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>>46297784
Itadakimasu

>>46299983
>rena
>mion
>favos
>not single rika favo
sure
>actual ryu07's actual Magnum Opus
only someone in here, /v/ and on twatter would say it.

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>>46300017
Supreme taste often comes at the cost of being hated by those below yourself.

Oh no....... could it be....... that Rika-chama belongs in the trash can!?

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>>46300169
What can I say, I like green haired tomboys with a secret girly side.

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When she first did that face it really scared me but now is just funny

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>>46299960
>Rena favorite

Based, based. I really hope you'll enjoy Umineko as well if you plan on reading it, it doubles down on a lot of Higurashi's themes.

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>>46300275
You talking about Rika smug face?

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>>46299960
Saikoroshi is the only one you really should read, other stuff is up to you

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Chu

>>46299983
>magnum opus
Fuck off retard

>>46300508
You tell them, Satokosister

>>46300356
her with that face telling me to go back to Tokyo caught me off guard

>>46300502
Baby Rika on the right

>>46300754
Almost missed her.
Rika stealth status is too high.

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>>46300770
Huh. Didn't realize this was from Gaou, seems pretty off compared to his usual fanart, but I guess it's because it's mainly a Frieren reference.

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>>46300936
>trying to ruin rika's image subtly

i don't worry i will survive even your other altered ego, ratokofan

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True eternal love won! Mindbroken haters eternally seething at this cute and canon couple!

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My heart and my Stars, She is my Satoko

>>46301207
The image that BTFO the troonppeisisters

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In other news, Bercutesel

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>>46301207
Their love broke you sister

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Janny is furiously deleting? That's good.
Best to just slice this mess like the Gordian knot.

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She won.
Satokei won.
True love won.

>>46301295
...won ojisan's love.

>>46301299
It's obaachan, chud

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Can we have peace now

Mods if you are gonna finally moderate the fucking thread please rangeban the Rikafag already.

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Reminder that Satoko canonically gives birth to Keiichis children

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>>46301371
Maybe if you beg in seiza

>>46297940
>>46297926
I want to believe that Ikuko is Sayo, but that also means denying the magic in the story and that nothing in the witch world never actually happened

Okay if the mods are finally doing their job can they also get rid of the Umispam?

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Okay if the mods are finally doing their job can they also get rid of the discord spam?

>>46301475
Someone get that scary man away from Jessica! His five o'clock shadow is about to show 0_0

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>>46301455
honestly, i think people who want ikuko to be sayo just want their wish of sayo and battler being happy together to be fulfilled, but it just doesn't truly provide that
tohya isn't battler, to say he is would be denying the identity that he's clearly meant to have as a person that was established throughout EP8, and to condemn sayo to being eternally AROUND another man using the body of her beloved but not being that man is not granting her a happy ending, it's just sentencing her to further torment
even if you were to ignore all the things that don't add up in the ikuko-tohya story, if you were to say sayo was ikuko, it still provides nothing but a bitter tinge to the ending, nothing is truly improved it's just made worse for all
it was bad enough that ryukishi's office workers refused to let tohya have his own love life, to sentence both him and sayo to a permanent, inadequate life where neither will be happy and both remain lost purely to satisfy a shipper's denial of all other relationships is even worse

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>>46301497
I'm not a fan of the Sayo = Ikuko either, thought I always believed Tohya and Ange never getting into a romantic relationship enforced Umi's message.

>>45689487

What do you think?

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>>46301510
i definitely thinks it works in that way as well, but it's mainly that ryukishi had INTENDED on them being together but changed his mind because some women in the office complained that irritates me the most
if it was on purpose from beginning to end that tohya remained alone in the aspect of romance then i'd be perfectly fine with it, as you say it provides its own message that romantic love isn't necessary to move forward sometimes and coincides with other examples like with kyrie and ange - it would be something i would actually like in a way
however, once ryukishi said that it was meant to happen but he was peer-pressured out of it, the problem became much more evident; it could no longer be taken as a purposeful message but instead a coincidental one enforced by a man flip-flopping on his decisions based on outside factors
instead, tohya now feels like a man burdened by his past not only in the watsonian perspective but also on the doylist one, he is unable to be his own man because others could not see him as his own man, and so he is permanently tied to battler and sayo on the whims of those within ryukishi's inner circle rather than because ryukishi wanted it to be so
i think tohya being with ikuko would've provided its own message, of a man locked in the past even with something pulling him towards the present, and would make ange's actions more meaningful, presenting tohya with an opportunity to finally, properly take grasp of what he has, instead of as it is now where he is now free to just figure out what he wants to do now, almost half a century after he was 'born'
as is, we are now left with something that makes tohya a rather pitiful entity indeed, alone with a woman he does not love, in a mansion and a body he can't help but feel trapped within, able to do nothing but write and write for decades on end until ange finds him, a story in itself to be sure but one that thanks to that knowledge is an extremely depressing one, enforced purely by those who could not 'see' even after the story tried again and again to make them 'see', which ryukishi should've ignored if he wished to follow his own advice but instead took on board and made tohya's life even more pitiful

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>>46301564
I love this artist

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>>46301607
She doesn't always have kitty whiskers you know.
Why delete your post?

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>>46301571
Can always appreciate a good long28 pic

>>46301615
That's adorable

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>>46301636
nekomimi modo ne~

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>>46301626
Best part about the entire Gou and Sotsu era was the amount of fan art he made of the series, let's hope we get some new content soon for WTC

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>>46301564
I see, I suppose that's fair. It never bothered me much that the decison was made due to his staff telling him to because I always believed R07 wouldn't change his mind on something in his writing without meaning; he sacrificed his reputation in Japan to get Umineko out after all, and its a work made out of pure passion. You can only speculate on it so it's kind of a moot point but I believe he at least properly thought it over instead of just making the decision on a whim because his staff said so.

Your outlook on Tohya's life sounds cynical but you are kind of correct, it's pretty sad. Though the fact that his life is pitiful I believe is the point, and it has some christian subtext. Umineko's ending can be seen as tragic or happy and it depends purely on your view, but it will always be a tragedy at its core. Ange will never truly reunite with her family and Tohya will never be able to become the person he once was, but they are able to build happines ontop of that despite these things. Tohya's life I'm sure still had moments of happiness where he shared his writings with Ikuko, it's just that a piece of his soul was always stuck in purgatory until he finally reached the golden land at the end (heaven) through finally reuniting with Ange (Yukari) and atoning. Their sibling bond is what finally gives them both closure and allows Battler to escape purgatory and reach heaven. Battler goes through hell, just to eventually come to the conclusion that love is stronger than the truth and I believe that's always been powerful in its own right.

>>46301564
Based on what R07 said, he'd marry them just because they're a man and woman living together though. There wasn't even a ceremony. It's not like there was an actual loving relationship he dropped.

>There was a line about Battler and Ikuko that they didn't marry. What kind of a relationship do you think they have?

>R07: They're a pair of doubters, right? (laughs). In a very early plot, they were supposed to have joined the register. When I showed off the draft, which read, "We were too busy to have the ceremony, but we were registered as a couple the year before last," some of the female staff members said, "I'm shocked! We have to protect Battler!" (laughs). After seeing their reactions, I stopped talking about their relationship. I simply wrote about it because I felt that they had been together for a long time and were finally registered together (laughs). I thought that a man and a woman who have been living together for that long should at least get registered as a matter of course. After receiving a fierce protest, I realized that men and women think differently.

>>46301714

Really, it's more that R07 was looking at their marriage as pure convenience, while the female staff members saw it as more meaningful than that and so opposed it. That also explains why he was willing to drop it. He wasn't dropping some core aspect of their conclusion, just a legal paper.

>>46301714
see, the thing is whenever i see that quote all i really see is the
>some of the female staff members said, "I'm shocked! We have to protect Battler!"
they're not thinking of him as tohya, they're thinking of battler, and quite frankly i just can't understand why ryukishi would take onboard the opinions of those who'd think of him as being just battler at the end of all that

>>46301725
I don't think it was that serious. It was probably said as a joke with more serious reasoning behind it. You are underestimating his staff if you don't think they had at least a basic understanding of what was going on in the story they'd been writing with him for several years.

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>>46301497
I once meme'd about it for a joke about Sayo cucking Ange, but it makes zero sense thematically. I think I pulled all the evidence out my ass because it was legitimately the most ridiculous theory I could think of that I could come up with some bullshit to support.

>>46301725
I really think he just didn't give much emotional value to the marriage, which is why he was willing to drop it after the staff opposed it.

I think you can see the same thing with Higurashi Reiwa (R07 not giving enough emotional weight to marriage), but there he actually went through marrying the characters with a bunch of randoms since it was necessary for the next generation set up he wanted, seemingly unable top see how that'd just hurt the appeal of the story.

okay, but what if I want to torment Sayo :)

>>46295051
Need one with Patchy and Bernkastel

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>>46302126
I have one with Sanae and Mion!

>>46294299 (OP)
Yeah that's a real EXPANSION WORK huh

>>46302131
Nice

>>46302535
ratka dyed her hair to look like her role model, Satoko, cute.

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>>46298578
I missed you mei anon

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the evolution of rat - a 2024 scientific study by /07/th

>>46301656
rat eyes

Yoko Taro and Nier reincarnation keep stealing from r07 and Ciconia

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>>46305050
still
he couldn't steal how to make lovable characters

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Good morning! I love Satoko.

>>46305116
t. Teppei

i thought about having sex with JK Rika.

>>46305273
Ooishi...

I just want to fuck Lucifer.

I just want to be Battler

>>46305415
>>46305426
Same thing.

>>46305433
I didn't say I want to fuck Lucy, although that is also included in Battler's daily duties

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>>46305273
Me too man... I want to fuck JS and JK at the same time

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>>46305490
>>46305415
Lucy... My sweet...

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>>46304323
Renowned Havard Scientist here.
I can confirm, this is true.

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Love Ange

Discord woke up

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>>46307199
Post something good then

>>46307327
cute rodent on the right? what this specie is called?

sperg won hard by subverting the rat meme agaisnt rika

>>46304323
Rika has 4 (FOUR) ears!

>>46307878
and ratkaschizo has been quiet ever since

>>46308173
Why does Battler look like a lesbian sometimes?
And why does Yasu find that hotter than anything?

>>46308220
>And why does Yasu find that hotter than anything
Does she?

>>46307878
His powerlevel is just too strong... how the fuck can Ratkaschizo ever compete?

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>>46308238
I mean, she did write a massive muder-mystery drama full of bluebeaned angst in order to get him to notice her again.
Some would say she's got some issues she needs to work out regarding him.

>>46308261
But what does it have to do with her finding Battler looking like a lesbian hot?

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>>46308304
Weeeeell...
Maybe it's advertising working unexpectedly well is all.

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>>46308569
>>46308551
You're not you when you're hungry.
Have a melon to cool off!

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>>46308594
that is apple though

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>>46308686
She is holding an apple, yes.

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>>46308686
that's an adam's apple

>>46308783
So that's why Beato uses the choker?

>>46308594
why do you care? can you shut up and mind your own crazed busniess

>>46308823
It would make snapping her choker much easier while getting head so it's not all bad

>>46308962
cute ratoko!!

>>46308962
ratoko with long hair looks cute

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Their love won. Love and justice will always prevail

>>46309101
K1 would never settle down for used goods.

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I love Sayo.

>>46309263
CHADler will make her happy.

>>46309263
Me too. She deserved better

>>46309263
Cute trans queen <3

Do you think Yasu has ever used a dilator before?

>>46309317
Most likely yes, which would only add more conflict to her mental state and her gender issue as to why other girls don't dilate like her

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>>46309263
Me too. She and Ange would have gotten on very well I think. A shame there's practically no art of them both aside from whole cast shots.

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Okay wait a second are all of Yasu personalities trans or is Beatrice a biological female thanks to magic?

>>46309332
Lion is such a wasted potential. All she gets to say to Sayo is basically "yes, I'm you" and that's all.

>she

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>>46309332
i think ange's love rivalry with the more demure sayo over battler would've been adorable to witness, sure seeing the two competing in EP9 is funny but just imagine ange's intensity versus sayo's reserved yet calculating nature

>>46309340
It's the former since she will never be a woman, the only one that isn't a tranny is his Kanon persona

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>>46309364
But what if I want to see the bitch fight?

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>>46309358
I forgot you are the retard who thinks Lion is a tranny too, even though her whole deal is that she is (almost) normal

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>>46309355
I think it's another one of those times when she's important to the plot, but only really insofar as her existence is required to highlight other things, and she's never developed beyond that (Just like something else of her's lol).
It's why episode 7 is a low point for me really. That and it's a bit of a monologue with no real mystery of it's own to solve. Willard also seems like he needed half an episode's worth of backstory or foreshadowing, and some more development after he rescues lion so it's not as out of the blue that he does, because we don't really know all that much about him.
If you were to ask my personal opinion, Episodes 7 & 8 should've been combined together and had an intermediate episode between 6 & 7, with maybe a small intermission between the two stories in this new extra-long episode 8.
7 is just such a non-sequiter thematically. It's sort of trying to be an epilogue, but there's still a whole episode after it that builds upon the information revealed in it but doesn't really follow on thematically.

I'm maybe not articulating my point very well, but I hope enough of it came accross that it's not that I don't like 7 & 8, it's that they change gears totally for 7 then we forget about Willard and Lion existing for 8 to focus on Ange, begging the question why Ryukishi even bothered with them like that if he wasn't going to fully commit to the new characters that are at the centre of the entire episode.

I'm going to stop for real now because I still can't explain all my issues with it without sounding like I'm complaining a lot, which I am but it's from a good place I swear.

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>>46309263
Cute autist.

>>46309401
you're*
and look at her manshoulders, it's obvious.

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>>46309468
I think you are just retarded

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>>46309456
Not the best acting skills yet

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>>46309456

>>46309421
Will was supposed to be in episode 8 under Bern as antagonist, but R07 threw away that idea since ep08 was already too long, which is why you just have Lambda bringing them back and then they don't do much of anything. Their narrative was kind of cut in the middle and thrown away.

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>>46309421

To me, Lion's purpose in the narrative is to be Sayo's imagined ideal of what she could've been had it not been for the cliff, which is why Lion's so comically perfect and doesn't really get much development beyond EP7. Willard and Lion is like Battler and Sayo, had things been "perfect" so for me, it makes sense that they don't get much after EP7, they're just a fantasy of Sayo's. EP7 is the chapter where the whole truth is revealed for most of those that were paying attention, like how in classic mystery novels the truth is revealed near the end of the book. However, EP7 is subtle about it and still makes you think, and EP8 still comes after it because Umineko is much more than just it's mystery and Ange's conclusion is what the entire VN builds up to. Lion and will are metaphorically necessary I feel but I don't really mind them serving that purpose and not getting much else beyond that.

I do get what you mean though, EP7 and EP8 are extremely different from the other 6 chapters, and EP8 especially drops a lot of nuance in comparison to 7. Even if I really love EP8, it's hard for me to deny when people consider it one of the weaker chapters despite still being great, unless it's for the wrong reasons like feeling ''attacked'' by the goats and such, or feeling like nothing mattered. It kind of depends on you though and how much Ange's story matters to you in comparison to say, Battler's. Though I do really love EP7's tea party and how it follows into EP8's halloween party. When Bern shows Ange Kyrie and Rudolf murdering everyone, she dares her to believe it. And then, in EP8, Battlers shows her the halloween party and dares her to believe the opposite, making her eventually realise that what she chooses to believe about the incident matters more than what really happened. The conclusion she (And the reader) draws reveals more about you and her than the truth itself, her love for her family lets her move forward and the only way for her to know anything about the truth by demonstrating said love.

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>>46309603
>like Battler and Sayo, had things been "perfect"
Imagine

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>>46309421
EP7 is mostly about putting the mystery itself to bed by solving it, a job Battler can't do properly because he's a Game Master now and already knows the solution. Someone divorced from the situation was needed, thus the Van Dyne expy to match the Knox expy. Lion's around to have some part of actual Sayo running around doing shit instead of just having plain old Shannon and Kanon I expect, along with providing a Watson to Will's Holmes. The issue is that once their purpose is fulfilled (in solving the mystery), Ryukishi had no idea what to do with them, which led to the initial idea of them being villains only to get thrown out and eventually settling on them just kinda... being there.
He couldn't exactly leave them out entirely after making a whole Episode following their perspective, and Lion's too important as an ideal version of Sayo to not show up at all, but what have they got to do with Ange's story, the crux of EP8? I think that struggle to think of a proper answer to that question is why they end up being practically 'forgotten' in the end, because when you're no longer focused on solving the mystery all you've got is a non-magical Sayo and a cooler version of Battler, and neither are all that important when you've got the actual Battler and Beatrice as part of the main cast.
I think EP7 served its purpose well, and Will and Lion served theirs, but honestly I think Ryukishi might've been better off not having them appear in the main story, as their presence just ends up highlighting the missed opportunities involving them. Maybe having an actual tea party with them as the focus instead of just having Bern and Lambda reading letters and then fucking off could've worked, giving them the focus they need to work well along with the opportunity to give them proper interactions with the main cast that isn't hinged around Ange thanks to EP8's nature.

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>>46306851
I've seen what they do with this popsicle later...

>>46304431
Seriously what a power couple.

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Getting a commission and I need cool umi quotes to fill about this much text

>>46310522
Dare I ask what it is?

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>>46310522

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>>46310522
<Die the Death>!
<Sentence to Death>!!
<The Great Equalizer is Death>!!

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>>46310522
Something something incest is badass

what's the status on the TRianThology translation?

>>46310522
What's the comission anon!

>>46301497
>ikuko to be sayo
Never even knew this was a thing, makes no sense.

>>46312525
Ikuko's background is vague enough, and she lacks characters tied to her, that people can dismiss everything about her backstory as a lie, and the design as just unreliable narration.

I think the main motivation behind it is that it allows Umineko to be a closed story, with everyone being related to its core, rather than Ikuko being an outsider that met Battler by chance as intended.

Of course, it makes little thematic sense with Ikuko's overall role throughout the story, Beatrice/Sayo's suicide or even the real world production facts we know (the staff opposing a Tohya x Ikuko marriage because they saw it as a betrayal of Battler x Beatrice).

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>>46310793
Ange is so cool...

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as loong as Rika gives me sweet cooms.

Who's got the bigger dick, Battler or Beato?

>>46314765
I was about to answer Battler, but considering he takes steroids, Beato for sure.

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>>46312979
The coolest

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>>46315358
nah

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>>46315369
FUCK....

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>>46315385
Have a drink Ange, have a smoke. It will make you cooler.

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Step aside for /fa/non

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>>46315369
Fuck you say ya little shit?

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where did the poster count go?

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>>46315817

>>46315930
Sex.

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>>46315972

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>>46316002
Lucky, she'd have had to change it when she left if that was what she thought it was.

>>46300006
>>46300387
Ok I read Saikoroshi and it just made me want to read more... too bad this was the last serious work of higurashi he wrote (I especially liked when Rika hit Sakoto, I wonder if she was with Hinamizawa syndrome or just autism)

>>46316225
I recommend Miotsukushi if you really want more. It's arguably better than Matsuribayashi

>>46315265
Troonppei got her genitals reassigned though

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>>46316234
I still gotta read that myself man...
>>46316225
Kira is pure fanservice but the last episode is really good and heartfelt.

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enje...

>>46316380
Did Kyrie come from Hinamizawa by any chance?

>>46316234
>Miotsukushi
Did ryukishi write this? on the 07mod installer screen I can't find it so I think it's in "Console Arcs"

>>46316432
No, but it was supervised by him. It was written by someone he entrusted while R07 was writing Masturibayashi and was added as a console arc after it was finished (you can patch Himatsubushi with 07th mod to add the console arcs). I'd personally recommend moving on to Umineko after Saikoroshi since I believe Umineko is his best complete work but if you're clammering for more Higu content, it's very much worth reading.

>>46316470
Thanks

>>46316380
What is this?

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>>46316680
Ange getting clam jammed by Beato and going full yandere on her beloved

>>46298547
I still miss her.

>>46316432
He didn't write it but I agree with the other anon that you should read it, it's more or less the same ending as the original but ties up loose ends better imo. Make sure to read the original miotsukushi and not the kizuna one though because the latter added a dogshit unnecessary plot twist that retroactively ruins the whole thing

>>46317192
>In Kizuna, Hanyū is trapped in Rika´s body and the backstory of Hanyū (the arc of Kotohogushi-hen) is not canon.

So this is one of the many cases of why Hackysi07 still didn´t establize a fundamental lore on the 07th universe besides "but muh mistery" excuse?

>>46317376
No, it's just a shit plot twist for a non canon arc.