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>>39652509 (OP)
The objects’ physical properties are quite honestly terrifying, as they can physically alter their structure and manipulate electromagnetic fields to mimic real aircraft, replicating their shape, motion, and reflective properties. However, our quantum sonar arrays consistently revealed their true, unchanging forms, suggesting the transformation is either superficial or operates by mechanisms we don’t understand.

You wouldn’t believe how much activity has ramped up over the past two years. By mid-2023, the whole situation got so tense that my access to key data was locked down almost overnight. It wasn’t subtle. My higher-ups were clearly scared. Everything became "need-to-know," and apparently, I didn’t need to know anymore. When they started pulling senior analysts from the program and stonewalling me from anything remotely relevant, it was obvious the walls were closing in. That’s when I decided it was time to leave.

The recent wave of whistleblowers you’ll be seeing and "incidents", like the cybertruck bomber are controlled disclosure. It’s all part of a calculated effort to muddy the waters and keep people chasing shadows while something much bigger is unfolding.

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>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652517
These objects aren’t extraterrestrial, and they’re not some top secret military tech. Our theory is that they’ve been here far longer than we have, and whatever they’re doing, it’s ramping up fast. Our final pattern analysis before the data lockdown showed an exponential increase in emergence events. The trend wasn’t just alarming, it pointed toward a critical threshold.

Also, we're entirely certain they aren't just buzzing around aimlessly. They’re systematically mapping and surveying. Infrastructure, military installations, population hubs. They’re covering everything, and they’re doing it while blending in perfectly. They could look like a drone, an airliner, or who knows what else, but under the surface, they’re something entirely different.

I believe you

Did your office work with the NOAA during all of this? Any activity near Karlat Yam?

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>>39652571
>Did your office work with the NOAA during all of this?
Yes. We had ongoing collaborations with PMEL, particularly their ocean exploration program. They provided data and environmental monitoring that helped us establish baseline acoustic signatures to filter out natural phenomena. They were a pain the in ass.

>Any activity near Karlat Yam?
If you're referring to Kiryat Yam (I'm not sure about the spelling you used), we didn't have direct monitoring stations in the Mediterranean. At least I was never aware of these and only focused on the areas I already mentioned. The mediterranean's average depth of around 1,500 meters doesn't provide the conditions we typically associated with threshold points. If Euros and Africans see these objects, it's because they went from the Atlantic threshold points, particularly from the Puerto Rico trench vector, and moved eastward across the ocean.

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>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652517
fuck it i'll bite
what were the "true forms" you saw on sonar? you mentioned they were unchanging despite the mimicry.any biological effects reported near the exit points? changes in sea life behavior?

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>>39652695
>what were the "true forms" you saw on sonar?
We consistently observed two configurations. The most common was an oblong spheroid, exactly like the "tic tac" shape that gets thrown around a lot. The other form was perfectly spherical, usually 5-8 meters in diameter. Regardless of what they appeared to be visually (drones, aircraft, etc.), the quantum acoustic signature always showed one of these two base forms. The sphere configuration was more common during deep-water operations, while the tic tac shape was prevalent during surface-to-air transitions.

>any biological effects reported near the exit points? changes in sea life behavior?
Marine life doesn't notice these things. Our bio team used to joke about this. It's pretty wild when you think about it, even our quietest subs send marine life scattering, but these objects might as well be part of the coral.

>>39652509 (OP)
> muh crush depth of 2400
> muh quantum sonar arrays in 2012
> muh cybertruck
> muh tictac

nigga at least do some proper research if you want to larp

>he hasnt mentioned SPI yet
so this is a larp, thanks for the fun read anyways anon

half-baked larp.

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>>39652798
>>39652804
>>39652848
op triggered them kek

>>39652509 (OP)
but tbf got any actual proof? any details about yourself or the project that might give me a reason to belive this?

>>39652877
>OP starts post with "I'm LARPing"
>brainrot champion starts calling everyone glowies because they don't go along with this shit thread on this dying board

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>>39652877
I gave the general timeline, my role, and my background.

The locations and tech specs I mentioned are verifiable by anyone with any proper knowledge.

I'd suggest looking at the public NOAA bathymetric data for the threshold points I mentioned. Pay attention to anomalous readings around the Puerto Rico trench's western slope, particularly between 2020-2022. The data's public. They just don't advertise what they're actually recording.

I'm not going to dox myself further or drop specific details that could identify people close to me.

This is a LARP.

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>>39652886
why are you so mad??? makes me want to believe this even more, just to make you angry
next time don't glow so bright nigga

>>39652906
does anyone know ho to verify what op is saying?

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Glowniggers have no life. How low must you be in the dignity order to spend your life coming to a 4chan thread to spread misinformation?
Sure, you're earning money, but are you gaining dingity?
This is true, and when anyone tells me it's fake without presenting any proof, it just makes me believe more.
Fuck the world government.
Rockfellers, Goldebergs and Rothschilds, gtf out the web.

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>>39652934
stay retarded

>>39652524
Summer 2015 Puerto Rico shelf emergence of small fast unit that flew over East US?

Yes or no?

Can you corroborate this?

(Any idea why they are putting small devices into people? The implant phenomenon is real.)

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>>39652509 (OP)
I just watched "The Abyss" recently. Pretty cool movie that is based on the USO phenomenon.

I'm not reading all that. I already know that they are ancient alien probes and they can replicate itself. That is the only explanation that makes sense, an advanced civilization will inevitably send probes all over the universe, to search for stuff.

>>39653175
And elaborating on this: Their goal is to find these interesting planets with resources or life support conditions and report back to the nearest outpost. So they've sent a probe back with a report thousands of years ago and now their goal is just to monitor and protect the planet and its resources until more probes and perhaps even NHI lifeforms arrive here. If we are about to nuke the planet down they will interfere.

>>39653196
>Muh Ayylmaos coming fo tha ressources.
This type of fearmongering is so retarded. It is just us projecting our own history on alien invaders to (possibly) construct a threat narrative. The universe is littered with all types of ressources an advanced civilization might need on desolate worlds and asteroids. Why come to our cosmic backwater, that is inhabited by a bunch of smart monkeys that you'll have to deal with?

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>>39653196
https://youtu.be/93q0KdiGkEE?si=9hF0A1kXBcQ2lqID [Embed]
Lmao.

>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652524
Do you think it could be related to earth's pole shift?

Also this is very similar to that other whistleblower larp posted on /b/ I think.

>>39653228
Earth is an interesting resource because it has an atmosphere and supports carbon based lifeforms.

I believe this. Something developing here in the hidden underground is more believable than interstellar travel. Or maybe some close neighbors from inside the solar system. What better place to hide a research station then underground/water?

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>>39652989
>Summer 2015 Puerto Rico shelf emergence of small fast unit that flew over East US?
This very much tracks. The Pentagon videos they confirmed in 2020 were from that 2014-2015 activity spike. It was cool seeing them finally acknowledge footage we'd been analyzing years before. The release of those videos sparked huge internal fights. You had some officials pushing for disclosure, other branches fighting to keep everything classified, and some just freelancing their own agenda. My team thought we were finally getting somewhere, but instead it just exposed how fractured the whole system is. Different offices either fighting over control or actively undermining each other. We're cooked.

>Any idea why they are putting small devices into people? The implant phenomenon is real.
Never heard anyone talk about this.

>>39653175
>>39653196
There's no evidence to suggest they aren't from our planet, but you're not entirely wrong. These objects show specific interest in our infrastructure and population centers. We're certain they're mapping human activity specifically, and not just general planetary resources. What's going on in NJ is unprecedented. Everything else is pure speculation.

>>39653295
>Do you think it could be related to earth's pole shift?
No. The Earth's magnetic pole shift is like a very slow-moving compass needle. We actually studied this possibility extensively because the objects we tracked could manipulate electromagnetic fields. Imagine you're watching birds migrate. If they were following Earth's magnetic field (like actual birds do), you'd see gradual changes in their patterns matching the pole's movement. But these objects followed completely different rules. They created their own magnetic disturbances, kind of like how a magnet can temporarily override your compass.

>>39652660
Yeah I'm a dumbass I meant Kiryat Yam, very interesting ty anon.

>>39653628
why tf would these things even care about us now if they're some ancient earth species? what's the point of mimicking planes and why act now?

also >>39652524
> exponential increase in emergence events
> trend wasn’t just alarming, it pointed toward a critical threshold.
numbers? seems like you just typed this to seem eerie and spoopy OP

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>>39653628
The most believable part in this post is american glowniggers fighting among themselves. Did any other nations track this shit? No way russia/china didn't notice if this was happening in international waters

>>39652509 (OP)
ITS HAPPENING!!

This was just posted. He said he has the alien craft footage and will post it this week!!
Steven Greer said it last month that men will come forward before the 20th of Jan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfx1bIDTz0E [Embed]

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>>39652509 (OP)
Cool larp bro, but there aren’t any aliens, demons or inter dimensional shape shifters like the govt so desperately needs everyone to believe. Instead all of this anomalous activity can and will (eventually) be traced back to the country of God’s Chosen People. The homeland of terrorist operations that gets whatever it wants whenever it wants it. And now that their golden calf is back in the White House we can expect an even greater proliferation of carefully crafted events to fit a certain biblical narrative to corral the masses. It’s all so tiresome.

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>>39652524
When is the critical threshold?

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>>39652509 (OP)
false narrative shitty glowie LARP, diverting the boards attention from Jake Barber whistleblowing on whats' truly happening

How does it feel to know in a couple of days your empire of lies you've made up to hide the truth in the last 100 years will crumble to dust?

>>39652906
What's at the bottom? Is this related to the old "Underwater Fabrication Unit" thread on /x/?

>>39653850
You are the one diverting retard. There is a separate Jake Barber thread up asshole you acting as if EVERY OTHER thread not worshipping this nothingburger Barber story as a "diversion" is pathetic and a JTRIG tactic. They should demote you

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>>39653695
>why tf would these things even care about us now if they're some ancient earth species?
Our theory was that they're tired of us fucking with their shit, quite honestly. We always assumed they're peaceful, or else humanity wouldn't have thrived for this long. However, we've basically industrialized every corner of their native environment. Deep sea mining, submarine cables, sonar networks, oil rigs. We're literally building infrastructure right on top of their threshold points. Plus, our self destructive behavior (nukes) puts them at high risk. That's why there's been so much more activity in the last 80 years.

>what's the point of mimicking planes
They clearly don't want direct interaction with us and the mimicking seems to be an evasion tactic.

>numbers?
By late 2022 we had around 40 emergences per month. Back in 2014 only 10-20. But the worst part wasn't the numbers, it was seeing multiple threshold points activate at once, which had never happened before. Last projection before I lost access showed 100+ monthly events by end of 2023. Given what's happening now, especially in NJ, we're probably looking at 10+ events daily. Way beyond anything we modeled.

>>39653746
>Did any other nations track this shit?
Of course. That's actually part of why keeping this contained is impossible. Russian deep sea research vessels were all over the East Pacific Rise threshold points. They have better deep water capabilities than most people realize. The Chinese aren't dumb to this either.

The funny part is we'd occasionally get sanitized intelligence reports of them tracking the exact same phenomena, but everyone played dumb in international waters. Picture these 3 countries all following the same objects while pretending they're just doing "routine patrols". It's ridiculous. The Chinese especially ramped up their deep-sea monitoring after 2019. Look up their underwater sensor network expansion.

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>>39653835
>When is the critical threshold?
If you're asking for a specific date, I can't give you one. That's not how it works. Our models showed emergence events increasing exponentially, but we lost access to the data before pinpointing when it could peak (and that prediction could be incorrect).

What I can tell you is that the rate of increase we were seeing by mid-2023 was well beyond our worst-case projections from 2019.

Think of it like watching a pot about to boil. You can see the bubbles forming faster and faster, but you can't predict the exact moment it'll boil over. All I know is we're seeing way more activity now than any of our models predicted we would and nobody knows their end goal.

>>39653850
>Jake Barber whistleblowing
lol. lmao, even. Good to see people are still falling for the Newsnation, Coulhart, Greer, etc, grifts. Give them ratings, and drop forget to like and subscribe to their youtube channels and buy all their books :)

>>39652509 (OP)
If you're not larping, which I actually believe you arent I think we might be fucked, I watched a video about how an invasion would go down that scared the shit out of me. The glowie from the thing basically said we'd have no clue what was coming until it was happening and then itd be extremely violent and very quick

>>39654221
>>39654221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9TYbXkXUB4&t=37s [Embed]

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>>39652509 (OP)
>we identified consistent emergence points, we called "threshold points."
Thank you for your LARP. Can you please elaborate on this. How close can UUVs get to these threshold points? What sort of images of them have you seen? What are they exactly? Giant holes?

>>39654031
>Good to see people are still falling for the Newsnation, Coulhart, Greer, etc, grifts. Give them ratings, and drop forget to like and subscribe to their youtube channels and buy all their books
Of those speaking out and in some cases profiting on UAP stuff, who do you find to be the most credible and genuine? I find Diana Pasulka to be genuine, but an utter midwit. Garry Nolan on the other hand is sharp AF and seems legit to me, like he's a bonafide truth seeker. Am I wrong?

OP, can you verify the info in this thread?
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>>39652509 (OP)
the idea of them camouflaging as drones and planes makes me uncomfortable. what if they can also mimic humans and other things? what if cryptids and entities like bigfoot and jersey devil are these little niggas cosplaying

>>39652509 (OP)
Is this you? A colleague? Or LARP inspiration?

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/threSMM4Tad/34629564

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>>39652509 (OP)
But all you did was restate what was already known lore but with your own little additions here and there, you didn't whistleblow anything

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>>39654221
>>39654228
In all the data we collected, there wasn't a single aggressive action. They're capable of incredible things, but they've never shown hostile intent.

If they wanted violence, we wouldn't stand a chance. Something that can alter their structure, manipulate electromagnetic fields and move through water like it's air. We'd be done in hours.

What we observed was more like territorial behavior. Like they're responding to us encroaching on their space. They're aware of our nuclear capabilities. That's probably humanity's only real deterrent. I guess they understand that any overt action risks a nuclear response from us, that would poison their environment as much as ours. But that's just my analysis based on the data. I'm not going to pretend I know their intentions.

>>39654234
Threshold points aren't physical structures or holes, that's what made them hard to study. They're more like "zones" where normal physics starts acting up. UUVs could get within about 600 meters before their navigation systems would start going haywire. Compasses spinning, depth sensors showing impossible readings, that sort of thing. Lost quite a few Remus units trying to get closer.

The best imagery we got was from multibeam sonar mapping. You'd see these perfectly circular areas, maybe 50 meters in diameter, where the return signals just didn't make sense. Like the bathymetry would show normal seafloor topology, then this completely smooth disc where all our instruments failed to get coherent readings. Almost like a blind spot in the data.

>who do you find to be the most credible and genuine
Most of them are working with fragments of information, and some are definitely spinning narratives for profit or attention. The ones talking about bodies, exotic materials and crash retrievals are missing the point entirely.

These things don't crash, there are no retrievals lol

This applies to everyone asking about similar threads like >>39654235
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>>39654279
>what if they can also mimic humans and other things?
One of our techs actually had this running joke about our branch director being "one of them", because the guy never seemed to blink and had this weird way of moving.

We never saw any evidence they could mimic anything except aircraft. Not saying they couldn't do different things (they probably can), but signatures were always consistent with those two forms I mentioned, the sphere and tic tac shapes.

>>39654361
Again, fragments of info are out there. So is the reality of what's happening, it's right in front of everyone. People just keep looking for aliens when they should be looking elsewhere. That's all.

>>39654530
I feel like at any second the entire planet could be swarmed with billions of these things.and be whipped out in a second. What the hell else would they be planning? Also whats the possibility there's been ET contact and this is something totally different as well? Ive found some of the crash retrival stories to seem believable

>>39654288
What the fuck... did they delete the archive that you linked? Uh oh boys... what the fuck was that thread what was the title

>>39654845
Nvm it was just the underwater alien base thread

>>39654693
>Again, fragments of info are out there. So is the reality of what's happening, it's right in front of everyone. People just keep looking for aliens when they should be looking elsewhere. That's all.

Does this mean the guy who said that creatures live in these plasma voids under the ocean wasn't LARPing? I forget what he called the substance they lived inside but he said it occurred under great pressures, and they've lived in these "plasma oceans" underneath us for thousands of years. I forget what people called them but it's something like "dobbleneigh". He said we developed nukes which is tech they didn't have, and they developed anti-gravity. And they wanted us to stop messing with their ecosystem, that's why they emerged. And a huge war is brewing but they agreed to peace for a few decades with them.

Presumably they are humanoid, but with aquatic features?

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>>39654788
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7fwHFqTpO_c [Embed]

they've been mimicking aircraft for decades. it's so fucked up

lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpXMy5GalI [Embed]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G9EbWN__JRM [Embed]

the fastest way to make sense of this for you is to talk to the remote viewers that saw the USO mothership in atlantic and went inside...i assume your aware of that info leaking? and them describing mission specific/purpose built craft/drones
when the new kid arrived, they wanted you to know that they know...and show who they were aligned with
Thank you for your service

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSQTIn8ZSDI [Embed]

>>39654530
Metallic orbs like picrel are exactly what I saw from an airplane in 2023. Right around the California/Nevada border flying from Calgary to LA. Weird thing is I know there was more than one but can’t give a definite answer as to how many. I’d say 3-5 but I don’t know why I can’t give a definite answer.

I noticed them, looked for a couple of seconds, pulled out my phone, looked at the screen to unlock it, looked back out the window and they were quite a ways ahead and just disappeared into the clouds. Trust me bro.

>>39654882
ringwoodite, and that guy was a fraud. He said they were gonna invade in Jun 2024. Also an asshole, he disappeared from reddit. I believe there's some truth to A(rie)liens, but he was a larper

>>39654845
>>39654848
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564

Yeah I fucked up when typing the captcha. My bad.

OP is too dismissive of it though, despite being super close to what he has been posting.

>>39654906
>>39652509 (OP)
OP did anyone talk and know what the Betz sphere was?

What's the official take on foo fighters?

>>39654693
>People just keep looking for aliens when they should be looking elsewhere. That's all.
Please elaborate. At this stage you could be referring to anything from "they're actually terrestrial beings that have lived under the oceans for millennia" to "these are actually angels/demons/archons here to complete some occult gnostic mumbo jumbo" so it'd be nice to know more on where you stand other than "they're not literally little green men from mars"....

>>39654693
There's no reason why there couldn't be both cryptoterrestrials and ETs.

>>39654946
My schizo sense went OFF when I saw deleted links lmfao. You're fine. And yeah I agree dude. I interacted with this thread very early and asked about NOAA because guess what, there was an underwater LARP well before the underwater base LARP. The OG underwater aliens LARP is the NOAA Mermaids Reddit post from like 2018 or some shit, and I base all of my underwater alien LARP off of that. They claimed they witnessed 10 foot tall entity that could basically move through the water at any speed they, claimed they were cloaked in something that resembles elemental mercury, they could move in any direction as if they weren't encompassed by water, it resembled high FPS footage these things were bouncing around, and their craft did too. It's as if they are operating off of different laws of physics or have something that allows them to generate these different fields. No one wants to talk about the NOAA mermaid post it's like they want it buried so they can craft LARP to contain and bury it.

>>39654972
RIP Mac Tonnies, dude was over the target.

>>39654975
Woah, that reminds me a bit of the russian divers that came into contact with some "alien" beings as well. Is it the same story?

Retards. Nobody leaks shit to /x/, only /pol/.

>>39654987
That "news story" about the "octopus"/"organism 47b" or whatever was just comms/coded messages. Not literal.

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39622069/#39623307

>>39654987
No, You are referencing the incident that occurred at Lake Baikal, which is another underwater alien rabbit hole, that is connected to all of this. The incident you are referring to basically claims that they interacted with underwater entity and they literally got turned to stone, Medusa style. I know exactly what you're referencing and it's another piece of the puzzle. Lake Baikal, Lake Tahoe... these fuckers are not just operating in the ocean. They know what they're doing. Don't even get me started on the Tahoe Deep youtube channel that I still think about EVERY DAY. When you piece it all together it's so hard to ignore it. We are constantly given half-truths and it's literally up to the individual to piece it together. They want you confused and incapable. Fuck that shit.

>>39655004
The "sentient octopus beings running shit" was a very shitty LARP imo. There are a shit ton of factions it's lame how that LARP attempted to cast it all on a single octopus entity. Way way more complex than that, reality is stranger than fiction.

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>>39652979
>How low must you be in the dignity order to spend your life coming to a 4chan thread to spread misinformation?
And here you are doing it for free

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>>39654788
If you saw the data we saw, that feeling of dread would be in your head 24/7, but eventually you just learn to live with this reality. There's not much we can do.

Whether other phenomena exist alongside what I saw is outside my area of expertise, but I personally doubt it.

>>39654882
Never heard of such a theory. The objects we tracked were solid, structured craft with forms under quantum sonar.

As for humanoid entities, I never saw evidence of that. The objects showed signs of intelligence in their behavior patterns, but we never got close enough to determine who or what was operating them. Speculation about their true nature was HEAVILY discouraged in the program. Our team joked about it here and there, but never around the higher ups. We did our job and that was it.

>>39654893
I will remain within what I can verify through our program's data and what I saw. Remote viewing insights are interesting, but my focus was on hard sensor data and verifiable patterns. I'm unaware of further details.

>>39654972
>cryptoterrestrials and ETs
The age old debate on who was here first type shit.

>>39655030
The dobberneigh IS real.

>>39655021
Yeah that's it Lake Baikal. I remember it a bit different though, the beings were neutral until the divers tried to capture them which caused them to create a whirpool that ejected the divers to the surface killing a few because of decompression sickness.

Fuck Reddit and Reddit niggers :^)

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>>39654946
I'm not dismissive. I'm just telling you what I saw and researched for years. I cannot and will not confirm or deny things that I'm unsure about, I'll only tell my side of the story and conclusions or theories my team and I reached or considered.

>Betz sphere
Never came up in any serious discussions in our program.

>Foo fighters
Quite relevant. Our analysis of historical documentation from WW2 pilots, combined with our modern data and understanding of the objects, suggests they were encountering early examples of the same mimicry behavior.

>>39654958
I stand on the data I saw. It'd be cool to say they are interdimensional demons or grey aliens from Neptune, but I don't know.

We can't determine who's constructing them and labelling them is useless. All I can say with honesty is the sophistication of the objects implies an advanced tech civilization, but I've heard all types of theories from time travel, to super AI... But again, theorizing their origin wasn't my objective and we'd get in trouble if we delved too deep into that.

>>39654972
There are no indications for extraterrestrials, these things are not leaving Earth.

Can you give more information regarding quantum sonar? How does it work? How is it able to detect the "true" forms of USOs despite an apparent ability to mimic other crafts?

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So they are from another dimension?
Are they biological or something beyond the flesh?

>>39655455
>>39655455

Someone asked, but I don't think you replied, are these things coming from the giant underwater facility another larper mentioned?

Also, have you ever detected other craft that didn't fit these descriptions? The tictac and cube?

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CRYPTOTERRESTRIALS

You all need to shut the fuck up and be ready to clock in to work on Monday. Pay your bills brokies. Aliens are not here to help you.

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>>39655511
The quantum sonar arrays were developed in partnership with a couple of major defense contractors. Traditional sonar relies on acoustic reflection. These arrays were different in the sense that they combined advanced quantum sensing capabilities with traditional sonar to detect disturbances in both acoustic and electromagnetic fields simultaneously. The key advantage was their ability to detect objects even when they exhibited no conventional acoustic signature or cavitation.

When these objects mimicked aircraft, they could perfectly replicate visual appearance and radar signatures. But the quantum arrays still showed their true forms, because the arrays detected disturbances in the quantum properties of the water itself that couldn't be masked.

Think of it like an MRI seeing through skin to reveal bone structure. No matter what these objects appeared to be visually, the arrays consistently showed their base forms. That's how we were able to track them from emergence points at crush depth all the way to the surface, even when they exhibited impossible movement patterns with no acoustic signature.

>>39655672
They demonstrated mastery over pressure differentials and electromagnetic fields in ways that suggest advanced technology, not interdimensional phasing.

When they altered their form to mimic aircraft, the base structure, remained unchanged in our quantum acoustic readings. This suggests technological camouflage rather than any kind of dimensional shifting or organic transformation.

In my opinion all the data pointed to advanced engineering, not supernatural or biological phenomena - but there were people in the project who believed the latter.

>>39652517
>quantum sonar
Dropped it there.

>>39656261
It seems likely that there is another intelligent civilization operating from within our planet. Humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, so it makes sense that highly advanced human civilizations have existed before. As to why they're underground, its possible they left the surface to escape a cataclysm and became adapted to their underground environment to the extent where they no longer wish to return to the surface. This all lines up with other discussions on here about a breakaway civilization existing which is roughly 500 years more advanced than we currently are.

With that in mind, its clear that they're returning to monitor the surface with all thats been going on recently between nuclear weapons and environmental destruction, but the rapid increase in frequency of sightings is alarming, especially considering the concentration around military bases and nuclear sites. If they were to make themselves known, they would need to know all countermeasures which could be used against them, as we'd probably blow them up without knowing their true nature given the chance. But's what all this in preparation for? Are they getting ready to save us from ourselves? Its intuitive that they would want to protect the planet they live on.

If they were to take control and stop the destruction of our environment, our current way of life as we know it would be gone. Without energy production as it is, entire supply chains would fail and billions would die. With artificial intelligence progressing how it has been, its only a matter of time until we develop the technology necessary to be on par with them, at which point they could no longer stop us from destroying our planet. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems theres a massive intervention coming which will be necessary, but painful to say the least.

But what do I know, nothing ever happens.

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>>39652509 (OP)
>advanced underwater detection systems... DoD and leading defense contractors, whose names you can likely guess.
CSC (Who are cunts. Seriously, fuck those assholes).

>>39654891
>they've been mimicking aircraft for decades. it's so fucked up
kek

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>>39652509 (OP)
>naval intelligence
I used to be with nasal intelligence

OP we’ve already had ufos emerging from ocean larp, give us something juicy

Drop some insane theories and baseless speculation

>>39652660
What about the Hudson Valley Trench?

>>39655290
Is this Indonesia? Looks like the area around the sunda straits and bali.

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I always believed picrel was a kind of disclosure, you're going to be fighting psionic lobster rmen, anons.

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>>39656732
>somehow miss point blank shot
>alien plasma torpedo immediately vaporizes my entire squad
>mfw

Nice LARP. Actually decently written, but unfortunately you can't make the claim that they aren't ET, have been here for a long time, or are reaching a "critical threshold" whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean and how you would experimentally determine what even the fuck that is without understanding what they are. Finally, there is no way for you to make that determination as to what they are doing such as mapping shit out. That claim just comes way out of nowhere, as if you're able to read these things' minds

>>39656732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swPu3-YjxIU [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvhVHBv6v1Q [Embed]

>>39652524
>technology far beyond ours
>still need to fly a bunch of vehicles around taking pictures like a Google Maps van

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>>39652509 (OP)
the interdimensional is the intradimension e.g. the inner earth breakaway civilizations, also why Canada / Greenland is so important, another "Roman warm period" ?

Nicely LARPed. OP.

I can LARP better. Ask me anything...

>>39657272
Do you have any information of interest that isn't yet known by /x/? Any idea of the intentions of the craft? Why are the craft in new jersey rather than elsewhere? is the antichrist at fort bragg?

>>39655021
This is wrong. They got turned to stone by aliens in a crashed craft on land. The humanoid aliens combined into a single orb and then turned everyone to limestone

>>39655290
What the fuck is quantum sonar?

>>39657388
>Do you have any information of interest that isn't yet known by /x/?
Bob Lazar is half right, half lie. All the juicy details he knows from someone else. He only cared about the money for the longest.

>Any idea of the intentions of the craft?
Jersey craft/drones are US Gov. They are testing new monitoring and scanning procedures. Will probably come and say there doing to sniff out a large scale terrorist attack.

>Why are the craft in new jersey rather than elsewhere?
NJ has a large military base and large metro area. Kind of easy to do urban testing. Just got to deal with all lookie Lous after the fact.

>is the antichrist at fort bragg?
No. All religious figures are pure fables. The Antichrist is good song from Slayer's debut album, Show No mercy.

If my formatting is ass, it's because it is my first time replying instead of gooning on here.

yeah we get it. they’re fallen angels. nobody cares retard make the sex robots already

>>39657605
The antichrist isn’t real!


says retard who is observing beings identical to biblically accurate angels unable to offer a “muh scientific explanation”

I am the antichrist. these entities are my army. and the children of god will perish

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I believe Mikey

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>>39655290

>>39657676
Of course the Dominican Republic would be trying to stab Puerto Rico

OP could you please read the following link and discuss if it could be related to what you were observing? A lot lines up with what you are saying.

Also this will take time but going through this user's other posts has a lot more information. The user claims the US has a treaty with them that expires in 2027 and at that point we will be going to war with them as we are destroying their habitat and they are destroying ours. Claims this war will be to the end of one of our entire species.

https://old.reddit.com/user/Nskxbehcidnsjxodvr/comments/16g363p/truth_about_uap_in_light_of_harmful_disinformation

>>39652906
My money is they're squid people that grew up on Earth the entire time we did. They just have better cars.

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>>39656365
with the power to create mini suns e.g. fusion within enormous intra earth spaces, would the surface be all that much better? vibrant, vigorous and diverse life may exist within

This whole thread is “we know what everything does, we don’t know how or why it does it, and this is its intentions, even though we don’t know how or why.”

Cool. Sure thing.

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>>39652509 (OP)

>puerto rico trench

>>39653859
the thread https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564

>>39653980
russia has better deep deep stuff than we do, thats why james cameron had to use their testing facilities for his dildo thing

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I understand the skepticism and some anons wanting more from me, but let me break down exactly what we confirmed through the sensor data and documentation during my time in the program:

> Two consistent physical forms for these objects (the "tic tac" and perfect sphere), that remained unchanged regardless of visual appearance
> Emergence patterns from specific depth zones, sharing identical electromagnetic signatures.
> Movement capabilities that violated known physics.
> Zero aggressive actions documented.
> Marine life shows no reaction to their presence.
> We identified systematic coverage of military installations, critical infrastructure and population centers.
> Perfect mimicry of conventional aircraft while maintaining their base quantum acoustic signature.
> Exponential increase in emergence frequency (from ~15/month in 2014 to 40+/month by late 2022).

This is what I can 100% confirm. The rest is speculation, theories and/or my opinions.

>>39656641
Here's one that was popular among a couple of our guys:
The objects' quantum signatures showed what we called "temporal inversions". Essentially, our arrays would detect their signature milliseconds before the objects actually appeared. At first, we assumed this was an equipment error, but it was consistent across different arrays and threshold points.

Due to this, some believed the objects weren't just moving through space, but time. The threshold points weren't just spatial coordinates, they were temporal nodes of sorts. This would explain why they could move without cavitation, their perfect predictive movements, why marine life never reacted and the exponential increase in activity (we're seeing the same objects multiple times as temporal loops multiply).

They could be cataloging changes between different time periods. Each emergence event was basically a temporal snapshot of human civilization.

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>>39656682
The Hudson valley area isn't comparable to our confirmed threshold points. The deepest parts of the Hudson River Valley and surrounding continental shelf only reach about 100-200 meters. The threshold points we monitored consistently occurred in zones between 3,000-4,000 meters deep. The Hudson Valley area simply doesn't have the depth conditions we associated with emergence events. Even the deepest parts of the New York Bight only reach about 2,000 meters.

>>39657104
The non-ET determination comes from quantum acoustic analysis. The objects show specific adaptations to Earth's deep ocean physics, they utilize pressure differentials and water density gradients in ways that wouldn't make sense for craft designed for space travel. It's like finding a submarine with gills. The engineering was clearly made for our oceans.

The 'critical threshold' isn't mystical, it's basic mathematical modeling. When you plot emergence events over time, you get an exponential curve. Example:

> 2014: average 15 events/month
> 2018: average 25 events/month
> 2022: average 40 events/month
> Last projection: trending toward 100+ monthly

This is verifiable data from our sensor arrays, not speculation.

As for mapping behavior. we're not reading minds, we're doing pattern analysis.
Example: Object emerges from Puerto Rico trench, follows precise grid pattern over Norfolk Naval Base, hovers at consistent intervals, maintains exact distance from key facilities, repeats pattern weekly with 99.7% consistency. Multiply this by hundreds of tracked events over a decade. When you overlay their movement patterns with infrastructure maps, the correlation coefficient is astronomical. This isn't interpretation, it's statistical analysis. The conclusions follow the evidence.

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>>39657152
The fact that they maintained perfect positioning relative to key infrastructure points while phasing through different electromagnetic frequencies suggests this was far more sophisticated than just "taking pictures". But keep believing they're just high tech Google vans if that helps you sleep better at night.

>>39657167
The Arctic has its own deep water features that could potentially serve as threshold points, particularly the Fram Strait. There were reports of activity in that region, but my work on the program's quantum sonar arrays was primarily focused on our three confirmed threshold points. I did hear from colleagues that the Fram strait was a hotbed of activity, especially during periods of significant ice melt. Russian research vessels were also active in that area. Would've been interesting to get our arrays up there.

>>39657605
Curiously enough, you got a couple details right, but in the wrong context.

>>39657779
Interesting read. Some of the observations align with our data, particularly regarding electromagnetic field manipulation.

I never saw evidence of any formal treaties or contact, but then again, that wasn't really my area of expertise.

>we are destroying their habitat and they are destroying ours
We are absolutely destroying their habitat. But in over 10 years of monitoring these objects, we never documented a single aggressive action. Not one.

>>39657821
We spent over a decade collecting hard sensor data and we had contact with other teams studying the project, but most of the info they had was heavily compartmentalized. Our team focused specifically on quantum sonar analysis and pattern tracking. We'd occasionally get sanitized intelligence reports or cross-reference data with other branches (like with our bio team), but most info was need-to-know. Especially towards the end.

I don't claim to know their intentions. Never did, once.

>>39653798
Kill yourself YOU FUCKING GLOWING SPIC NIGGER! I HOPE YOU ALL LOSE YOUR WIVES, JOBS, HOUSES, AND BANK ACCOUNTS YOU FUCKING CUNTS. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE PUT THE BARREL IN YOUR MOUTH

>>39654234
Gary Nolan is on CIA payroll, YOU are the fucking midwit. LMAO

>>39652509 (OP)
I'll bait.

Did we tried to communicate or fight those things?

How much does Congress knows?

Any advice for the general population?

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>>39652509 (OP)
>>39659430
I don't think you understand OP. We get that you don't know much besides what you claimed to have seen, but everything you've told us was already leaked many, many times before. At this point anyone slightly interested in this topic already knows what you're saying.
The only new thing I see in this thread is quantum sensor technology and some of the locations you mentioned, but even that isn't crazy considering we know the ayys have a base off the coast of Malibu.
If you're larping this comes across as low effort and if you're whistleblowing you're dumb af for putting yourself at risk to basically add nothing to the discussion.

>>39659658
Idk whats to stop some rando attempting to communicate with some breakaway civ?
You think them ships come from a place with free healthcare and dental care?
Asking for a fren here

>>39659672
Well maybe get google to stop censoring the fucking maps and let the disclosure take care of itself for once ffs

>>39657451
Two years ago, there was an article: https://web.archive.org/web/20220701002106/https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/06/quantum-sensorsunlike-quantum-computersare-already-here/368634/ which stated:

> Quantum sensors use the smallest amounts of energy and matter to detect and measure tiny changes in time, gravity, temperature, pressure, rotation, acceleration, frequency, and magnetic and electric fields. They’ve been commercially available in various forms for more than a half-century; think of a magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI, machine, which tracks flips in the magnetic spin of individual hydrogen atoms to peer into a body. But recent progress in the field suggests that such sensors will soon bring a revolution in measurement and signals intelligence—possibly by making it far easier to detect submarines, spacecraft, and underground facilities.

The technology is here, it is already used for advanced aerospace detection SIGINT. The wheels are turning to gain an advanced detection capabilities intelligence apparatus ("DCIA") - which was being actively tested during Russia's 2022 war on Ukraine, and it saw enormous gains. I was a 35N at the time.

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>>39653228
A potpourri of DNA.

>>39652509 (OP)
How do you explain the 50,000km vehicles in the rings of Saturn?

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>>39654788
I agree there could be ET contact as well. I feel certain of it, whereas I'm not yet convicted with what OP is saying.

I don't mean any offense OP - you might be right - I'm reading your information for the first time now, and I'd need more time for analysis. To your credit, nothing in your text jumps out as immediately false.

>>39652524
>Also, we're entirely certain they aren't just buzzing around aimlessly. They’re systematically mapping and surveying. Infrastructure, military installations, population hubs. They’re covering everything, and they’re doing it while blending in perfectly. They could look like a drone, an airliner, or who knows what else, but under the surface, they’re something entirely different.
They could do that while invisible if they wanted to be sneaky.

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>>39652509 (OP)
What do you know about Bimini?

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>>39657077
It happened to me so many times anon

one thing that never made sense to me is how UFOs in america are like pacific in nature and shit like that and the south american cases are horribly violent

Colares, Guarapiranga, are scary as shit

>>39660084
The reported violence in South America is unique among all continents. Although, they also had Antonio Villas-Boas who in my opinion had one of the greatest encounters.

>>39659538
you’ve heard of them popping up around svalbard? i don’t really like the idea of them messing with the seed bank there, or really any seed bank. we always think military when when think of important infrastructure, but seed banks are immensely important, too.

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>>39659658
>Did we tried to communicate or fight those things?
Our military has encounters with them fairly regularly. The Pentagon videos just happen to be the ones that went public, but there's an extensive catalog of footage (video, images, audio, sonar, thermal, radar, etc) that never will go public. At least not yet.

What's interesting is that some footage online is actually legitimate. You know how one of the Pentagon videos that was confirmed to be legit had been floating around on a UFO forum since 2007? Yeah, there's a lot of real stuff already online. Don't get me wrong, most videos and images are bullshit, but I've seen a lot of footage that shows what I would consider similar base configurations and movement patterns we tracked, especially since NJ got hot.

The really compelling stuff never leaves secure facilities. For the most part.

Also, as far as I'm aware we never had any successful two-way communication or controlled interaction.

>How much does Congress knows?
Based on the internal fights I witnessed, different committees probably have different pieces of information. The recent public hearings barely scratched the surface.

>Any advice for the general population?
Keep calm. We can't stop whatever is coming, so there's no point in panicking. Do not live in fear.

>>39652509 (OP)
That thing from the time before the past has already begun to devour the future. Those are not drones you see there, it's the langoliers.

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>>39659672
>base off the coast of Malibu
lol

>>39659914
I have no data on anything like this.

>>39660028
They don't exactly "go invisible" in the traditional sense, but they can move at speeds and manipulate electromagnetic fields in ways that make them effectively undetectable to conventional systems or the naked eye.

>>39660068
We did occasionally track objects moving through that area after emerging from the Puerto Rico trench, but there was nothing unique about their behavior there compared to other zones.

>>39660203
Your point about the seed vault is interesting. Our data showed these objects had a particular interest in what we called critical sustainability infrastructure. Not just military installations and power grids, but also research facilities, environmental monitoring stations, and yes, preservation sites.

>>39660275

So you really never came across any other shape besides a tictac and cube?

There's sightings of many other shapes but you never saw any of them?

>>39660084

I wonder if it's like a territory thing?

Like, some species has claim to South America and they agree not to fuck with each other but the ones in South America unfortunately happen to be more violent?

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>>39660393
>>39657956
>>39653859
>>39655798
Answer us, Larper.
Is it related to the "manufacturing facility" thread?

>>39660203
most seed banks have already failed and none of them have demonstrated long-term viability
their only importance is as gene libraries for corporate raiders

Any egg-shaped objects among the ones you saw?

Any opinion about the whistleblower coming out today on Coulthard's and the whole hubbub that's going on on reddit and yt? Is there any merit to it all?

>>39660084
>UFOs in america are like pacific in nature
ay yo lil zoom learn to write like an adult
>peaceful
>pacifist

Question- you said "If they were following Earth's magnetic field you'd see gradual changes in their patterns matching the pole's movement. But these objects followed completely different rules." meaning they are not bound to earths magnetic field.

But you also agreed with the reddit post stating that they can't leave Earth because they rely on its magnetic field to maneouvre. Don't these two points conflict?

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>>39660393
>MH370 drone footage
real?

>>39659430
>They could be cataloging changes between different time periods. Each emergence event was basically a temporal snapshot of human civilization

If this were true why focus on america more than other countries?. And why do it so slowly? Years gradually increasing just to do a Snapchat?

The "mostly focus on america" is the weird part. If the whole world were looked in a sistemátic way then we could theorize about the invasion or the research hypothesis .

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>>39660432
Just to be clear - we tracked spheres, not cubes. Never saw a cube. Oblong spheroid (the "tic tac" shape) and the perfect sphere, typically 5-8 meters in diameter, were their "true" form. Any other shapes people report seeing could likely be the result of their mimicry capabilities or simply an incorrect depiction of the sighting.

>>39660466
As far as I can tell, no. I have no information about an actual manufacturing facility. The threshold points we monitored weren't structures or bases. They were areas of localized physical anomalies.

The quantum sonar arrays would detect a build-up of activity before emergence events. First, we'd see localized magnetic anomalies forming in these zones. Then the seafloor topology would start showing that characteristic smoothing effect in a perfect circle. The electromagnetic disturbances would gradually intensify over several hours or even days, until they reached what we called a resonance point.

When an object emerged, it didn't just appear. The arrays would detect it rising through different pressure gradients, maintaining constant velocity despite the crushing depths. Again, no cavitation, no acoustic signature, just smooth transition through the water column.

The threshold points would remain active for varying periods. Sometimes single emergences, other times multiple objects would use the same point over several hours before the zone would return to normal. By 2022, we were seeing multiple threshold points activating simultaneously, which had never happened in the program's earlier years.

>>39660591
An "egg" is pretty close to a sphere, I guess lol

Joking aside, anything Coulthard touches is bullshit.

For the record, again, we never ONCE in over 10 years detected a crash or malfunction.

They don't crash. There are no crash retrievals. Period.

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>>39660084
>>39660707

lol pacific in nature

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>>39660729
There's no conflict here, but let me clarify the distinction. When I said they don't follow Earth's magnetic field, I meant they don't passively track the pole movement like migrating animals do. Instead, our sonar data showed they actively manipulate and generate their own electromagnetic fields.

But this manipulation requires Earth's magnetic field as a fundamental medium to work with, like how a jet engine needs atmospheric air to generate thrust, but isn't constrained to follow wind patterns. The objects can move freely against or across Earth's magnetic field lines, but they still need that base field to interact with. That's why we believe they can't leave Earth's magnetosphere, not because they follow the field, but because they need it as a medium for their propulsion system to function.

The quantum arrays showed their technology is specifically adapted to work within Earth's electromagnetic environment, even though they're not bound by its natural patterns.

>>39660825
Maybe.

Based on our analysis, the physics involved suggests a theoretical possibility of large-scale field displacement. The arrays detected what we called "quantum field bubbles" around these objects. So, basically, zones where conventional physics temporarily ceased to function, similar to the threshold points but somewhat mobile. In theory, an object generating these effects could extend the field to encompass a larger volume.

The quantum acoustic signatures we measured during actual aircraft encounters showed momentary phase-matching between the object and aircraft electromagnetic profiles. By early 2022, we were seeing synchronized effects across multiple sites. Theoretically, this same mechanism could create a mobile threshold point around an aircraft, essentially treating it as an emergence event in reverse.

Hope the explanation makes sense. Still, it's pure speculation based on our sensor data, but the physics suggests it's possible.

>>39661224
2 quick questions.

Cattle mutilations are widespread and have been reported for a long time, did you ever track these objects going from the ocean to ranches?

Second question, do you have any knowledge of the supposed 2027 event that keeps being brought up?

Know anything about the supposed gulf of arun thing that happened back in 2008 or 2009?

>>39661298
Sorry I don’t remember the name maybe off Africa or something? Vaguely recall a giant whirlpool or something mentioned? It’s planet dirt-tier lore but I’m not recalling the details of it

>>39661298
>>39661310
Me again I think it was maybe gulf of Aden by Djibouti if that rings any bells
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/19/1975381_-ct-huh-mysterious-vortex-warned-is-creating-global-weather.html

>>39652509 (OP)
Do we know their stance on trans rights and Palestine?

If they don't support the existance of my trans friends or a free Palestine then we should kill them because they're fascists

What if the terrible truth is that they could wipe us all out instantly? Through some deceptive method already deployed, or just with some advanced overwhelming force? All of humanity, gone in an instant...

>>39652517
what is their true unchanging form? what does it look like? a spherical orb?

>>39652524
Are their disguises perfect and visually indistinguishable from the real thing, or are there errors sometimes? Like an airliner with two engines on one wing, but one one the other, or a cloud that never changes shape no matter how long it’s up there

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>>39660853
The temporal inversion data was just one theory explored to explain their systematic survey patterns. The millisecond precursor signals we detected before emergence events suggested possible temporal effects, but again - just a theory.

Also, the focus isn't exclusively on America, that's absolute drivel that MSM, social media and reddit people want you to believe. Civilians see these objects everywhere. Don't get fooled, anon. Research public data, you'll quickly see I'm correct.

There's multiple countries researching this. US, Russia, China, India's been quietly monitoring activity in the Indian Ocean, and several european nations have deep-water monitoring programs tracking the same phenomena. Most militaries have shit loads of recorded interactions with them.

>>39661277
>Cattle mutilations
These objects were detected moving inland from emergence points, and yes, many of those times to rural and agricultural areas. There's a possibility they could be involved with cattle mutilation, but I personally don't have any data on that specifically.

>2027
As for 2027... look, people love to pick significant dates. The exponential increase in emergence events we tracked through 2023 was already beyond our worst case projections. For all I know, this could be the year they finally decide to go one step beyond observation and mapping. Don't buy into people pointing out specific dates. Nobody knows, that's why our government is scared and isn't sure how to proceed from where we currently are. These things operate on their own timeline.

OP is incredibly wrong about all of this, we already know they come out of the water because of black hole/worm hole travel. The deep sea pressures are similar to the pressure where they enter, so it's a gradual decrease of atmospheric pressure, otherwise their crafts would just explode.
Also the water is helping cool them down as they lose speed, the oceans are basically a pressure,velocity, and heat speed bump when they enter our planet (they basically come in "through" the earth if you will) and then emerge from the water like OP described. There are no bases or manufacturing here though.

t. the government

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>>39661081
what about "jellyfish" ones?

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>>39661378

here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5o5WC7TjeQ [Embed]

8:40:20 pm on the timer or youtube 3:07:37 drone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5o5WC7TjeQ [Embed] 7:26:50 pm on the timer or youtube 1:53:54 watch for the next mintue (is this them?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5o5WC7TjeQ [Embed]
5:51:50 pm on the timer or youtube youtube 18:49 watch next couple minutes couple of drones then triangle drone at 5:55:50 or youtube 22:52 time

this what you are seeing especially the ocean middle one?

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>>39661378
>>39661561
also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcsjkrKZNM8 [Embed]

>>39661561
22:48* actually for the triangle as it first comes in

OP what do you make of the Aguadilla FLIR footage? Consistent with your observations - transmedium, no cavitation or exhaust, visually spherical - and near a convergence site. But if it is related to your observed craft, why are they visible? And what to make of the seemingly impossible splitting act? Do you have any thoughts on Vallée’s interpretation that sometimes the phenomenon appears to “pose for the camera” as he puts it?

https://youtu.be/q6s5RwqnnLM?si=rhWYFDXRl_XR0RWf [Embed]

Just dropping the yt link again for posterity.

That’s it for now but obviously interested to hear any further observations or uncorrelated tidbits. Thank you for your LARP

>>39652509 (OP)
Are these "drones" actually drones, or are you a fed who is lying OP?
>>39652524
They are a black site project, at least for this century, though. The ones that have been documented in the past are unquestionably supernatural in nature and are demons. The current ones are piloted & crafted by man (see the Lonnie Zamora Incident description of the pilots), and each model of the tictac (but really any UAP type, including the TR-3B) are constantly being improved and updated throughout this century.

In fact, each model is likely part of a larger series, such as fighter jets (e.g., F-22), bombers (e.g., B-2), or reconnaissance aircraft (e.g., SR-71), given the ones described in the incident are clearly a older model; here's an account:

"It was a shiny white object, shaped like an egg, with a red insignia on the side. It was hovering over the ground. There was no sound, just a blue flame coming from the bottom."

(There was also a mention of landing gear.)

Now compare with an account from 2004: "It was like a Tic-Tac. It was about 40 feet long, and it was white, like a smooth, featureless surface. The object appeared to be moving in ways we couldn’t even understand—it would zip across the sky, change direction at a sharp angle without slowing down, and hover without any visible means of propulsion."

The problem that stops any nation from developing such technology is applying the equations of a fundamental theory (in this case, quantum gravity) to physical systems. Given that Satanic pedophiles dominate western society, it is undeniable that a fallen angel provided the knowledge necessary to overcome the obstacle that keeps us from building such vehicles in a Faustian agreement.
iykyk

>>39652517
>As they can physically alter their structure"

That's just light bending around them anon, y'know since it's cutting through literal time & space to achieve its speeds (not literally but in the simplest terms); it's not alive it's just using principles of relativity, relativistic aberration or doppler shifts hence at some angles it looks like it's morphing because of gravitational lensing.

There have been reports of witnesses being burned as a result of standing too close (see: Westall UFO), which means... extreme and unexplainable physics & given some UAPs glow
you can put 2 & 2 together on atleast a purpose on why some models glow aside from different tech & why some UAPs don't or atleast AFAIK cannot glow at all but still emit heat.

>>39652906
>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652517
Big, if true.

>>39652524
>>39652517
>>39652509 (OP)
>quantum sonar
>quantum
>sonar
Cool LARP, bro.

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>I'm LARPing
k bye

>>39661329
shut the fuck up, those mudslims would slit you from dick to throat just for thinking gay shit and the jews already fucking hate you. Glass both of those horrible religions. We are talking about UAPs, not gay ass politics that you want to push. YWNBAW

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>>39652509 (OP)
>unidentified submerged phenomena program
>>39652524
>These objects aren’t extraterrestrial
>>39653628
>These objects show specific interest in our infrastructure and population centers. We're certain they're mapping human activity specifically, and not just general planetary resources.
>>39654279
>what if they can also mimic humans and other things?
>>39654693
>One of our techs actually had this running joke about our branch director being "one of them", because the guy never seemed to blink and had this weird way of moving.
Don't know if you're still around, OP, but someone posted a dead man's switch about this last month. Everyone here ignored it, of course.

>everything is a larp
>must deboonk
>everything is a larp
>must deboonk
Pathetic.

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>>39664718
your larp sucked, cry more

>>39664858
Unlike you, airman, i don't larp. I just lurk.

OP sounds legit because I've never heard about this quantum sonar stuff and the amount of detail provided sounds good enough for me to believe this LARP. My IQ is 106 if that matters.

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>>39652517
>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652524
So apparently Pacific Rim was soft disclosure to get us used to the idea of fighting things coming out of portals in the ocean lmao

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>>39652524
>They’re systematically mapping and surveying. Infrastructure, military installations, population hubs. They’re covering everything, and they’re doing it while blending in perfectly. They could look like a drone, an airliner, or who knows what else, but under the surface, they’re something entirely different.

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>>39652509 (OP)
is this map showing the undersea cavern areas that the drones come from?

>>39652848
>half-baked larp.
is this all you people ever say in every thread holy shit

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>>39653505
>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652517
>>39652524
hmmmm

>>39652660
https://www.reddit.com/user/the-dead-canary/comments/l0ycme/i_know_someone_that_works_for_noaa_the_disclosure/

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>>39653980
>By late 2022 we had around 40 emergences per month. Back in 2014 only 10-20. But the worst part wasn't the numbers, it was seeing multiple threshold points activate at once, which had never happened before. Last projection before I lost access showed 100+ monthly events by end of 2023. Given what's happening now, especially in NJ, we're probably looking at 10+ events daily. Way beyond anything we modeled.

spooky.

Another guy on reddit said something similar about predicting these appearances

>"In January 1996, the U.S Navy began operational testing of a classified DEW system developed by a few ex-colleagues of mine at RMD (Raytheon), back in the day. It was loosely based on the rudimentary NPB project that came out of Los Almos in the late 1980s, and was designed to disable NHI objects of interest without the need to generate a non-directional EMP (given SkunkWs breakthrough in pre-event prediction & tracking).

The 'light' that was witnessed by over 120 individuals emerging from the surface of the ocean was the long-awaited & predicted re-emergence of the 1950/1971 'Disk-27', and the Navy began operational implementation as apparently instructed (the DEW device in question was located on a P-3). Unfortunately, NHI Disk-27 was momentarily drawn towards TWA-800, and the Navy's newest classified toy was briefly and accidentally aimed at the fuselage of TWA-800."

>>39654221
Bro he's literally ain't sharing anything new. this underwater shit...you can read whole books about this

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>>39665148
I archived and screencapped that one
https://archive.is/rF5ky

>>39664990
my iq is 142 and I didn't read a single word of any of OP's posts. I merely entered this thread to tell you all my IQ then leave.

>>39657104
Yeah this anon got it. also these random ass pics....pretty sure this is the same larper tho claimed he was a rocket engineer or something months ago

>>39657605
>>39657272
straight embarrassing larp

>>39665297
>2021

>>39659538
>we never documented a single aggressive action. Not one.

Strange, that's exactly what those YouTube guys said, the ones you claimed are grifter disinfo agents.

>>39665297
thanks anon!

>>39661224
Once again this is exactly what Greer talking about and yet you claim he's grifting. you gotta do some fact checking

>>39665140
>interspecies war is inevitable
spooky.

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>>39665497
>all of the ufo stories mention uap movement patterns pointing towards invasion


erm, what the sigma?

>>39659538
>maintained perfect positioning relative to key infrastructure points while phasing through different electromagnetic frequencies suggests this was far more sophisticated than just "taking pictures"
so what kind of data do you think they are collecting? anything that we wouldn't think to measure?

>>39660080
>>39657077
>>39656732

this is why I refuse to play the game even though I've heard it's great.

>>39665140
>NHI are only gods to Sumerians and Hindu followers
what did they mean by this?

>>39665542
Totally not a glowie staged invasion

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>>39665658
He meant they were literal gods such as the Naga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C4%81ga

>>39657779
https://old.reddit.com/user/Nskxbehcidnsjxodvr/comments/16g363p/truth_about_uap_in_light_of_harmful_disinformation

>>39665781
*worshipped as gods

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>>39665140
Here's that post with more of his replies. I was gonna include an archive link but I can't find the original thread.

>>39654031
And all attempts to communicate have just been ignored or what?

>>39665815
not op but seemingly so. sometimes it seems like we know way less than most people think we would

>>39665796
>global warfare with fucking underwater aliens hinges upon the negotiation power of donald j trump
larp or not thats a fucking hilarious proposition

>>39661224
>That's why we believe they can't leave Earth's magnetosphere, not because they follow the field, but because they need it as a medium for their propulsion system to function.

fascinating

>>39661329
kek

>>39661378
What are your personal perspectives? How unnerved are you as a result of your work? Are you just going about life as if nothing is different or has it altered your general philosophy and attitude for life significantly?

>>39665796
yeah seems plausible

>driving home after long day one day
>see weird light over neighbors house
>as the trees clear I see this light move really quickly
>confused I keep driving home
>get to my driveway and notice some starlight figure in the sky but it looks too close to be a star
>figure it's someone playing around with drone
>see neighbor outside and tell him to look
>he says I swear I saw it move and the longer I stare at it the weirder the lights
>all of a sudden we see it blast off at hyperspeed
>hes in shock, reports it to cops that night, no answer back
>watch it jump around in the distance neighborhood to neighborhood acting like a spy
>day 2 go outside and once again it's there
>neighbor and I go out and look at it, wave, give it the finger
>all of a sudden it starts levitating closer and closer
>we run inside
>day 3 I see it outside at dark again
>whatever I'm gonna do my thing
>check it at the end of the night and it's still standing there like a security cam
>day 4 I think to myself if this thing is there I'm gonna see if it follows me
>it does, I realize there's multiple
>decide to try to deceive them and meet the one near it on this hill close to where it hangs out daily
>driving through neighborhood and see one move horizontally in opposite direction of home
>it gets eye level to me, switches it's light from typical yellow looking stick figure to dark with this red blinking light
>whenever I stop in the middle of the road it stops too - this is to the left of me
>keep driving forward towards intersection to go home
>all of a sudden it's like 1000 feet in front of the intersection and elevated probably 500-1000 feet and moving left to right with an angry red blinking light

>>39660275
care to share where we can find some of the videos that you're saying are legit? Names?

>>39666185
>go home and go inside for 5 minutes
>go back out and realize I have at least 4 of these things over my house
>It's dead silent
>keep going outside outside and stay a while, flipping it off and cussing at it, waving
>all of a sudden it gets within a 200 ft radius of me and makes an odd noise and my eyes are like I've seen a camera flash
>fuck this I'm dine
>next day my friend coordinates with me, he can see my house miles and miles off in the distance
>he sees 2 pop over my area as soon as its sunset
>watches them follow me to his house
>by the time I park one shows up and he watched it come
>within 5 minutes of me showing up there's more coming in the distance and a fed like plane
>it seems like the planes are trying to run em off
>we're watching them change lighting, appearance, dim, cloak
>my friend is in complete shock
>go home later
>friend says it was like they were scanning I was still in his backyard and left back towards my homes direction
>theyre all here every night since
>been about a week now

>>39652509 (OP)
You or your people ever hear about Blue Eisenhower November or "The Pit" ?
I can't say where TP is located, but if you know what I'm talking about, you'll know what I mean. There's only one place like that in this country.

I doubt someone in your program would ever get an actual briefing on BEN, but you might have heard it mentioned.

There's a solid chance you have heard of the pit though, I contracted down there in 2010, running cable, but you know how it is in those places. All the "neat" stuff is moved before contract work of that nature. Still, with what that place is, it's easy to tell what it was used for.

>>39665323
My IQ is higher than your mom's boyfriend's credit score.

That is all.

>quantum
>sonar
>>>>quantum
>>>>sonar
Fuck's sake, you would have landed it if you researched a bit more. This detail kills my suspension of disbelief.

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>>39652906
>>39657792
My money's on breakaway civilization funded by Epstein's donors, squid people usca close second.

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>>39652509 (OP)
don't leave us OP answer the questions
bumpbumpbump it was getting interesting now

what were your thoughts on the jake barber interview??

>>39666419
that's what's unbelievable to you?
if anything the only thing I believe from this is that glowies have quantum sensor tech that's 20 years ahead of what the public knows about. Not that crazy kek
Same with the internet, AI, they have had those things 30 years before the public got to know them

>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652517
>>39654693
>>39655290
This feels very much like a glownigger thread to divert attention. What OP says is "don't trust anyone that's been leaking info for the past decades, discredit anyone that has seen humanoids or biologics, discredit any talk about a manufacturing facility, we know everything about how they function, but don't know anything about why they function and what they are"

In OP theory the ufos simply just pop up and go around?

Weird thread that's going around in circle

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>>39652517
>>39652524

>>39654882
maybe anti-gravity doesn't work in space, but still once we got to a planet we could make it workable and would make planet colonization feasible, would be a good way to get out of their way if they gave it to us

>>39665962
This would be the most kino outcome imaginable, I hope it happens
>Trump bamboozles the alien superintelligence like the emperor defeating the Void Dragon

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>>39657779
>we will be going to war with them
>this war will be to the end of one of our entire species.
Suffer not the vile xenos to live!
>but lord commissar they're actually cryptoterrestrials
*blam*

>>39654530
>These things don't crash, there are no retrievals lol
Says the guy from a compartmentalized operation. You don't know what you don't know, fren.

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I'll give this thread another 2 or 3 hours, then I'll be off, friends.

>>39661349
If they wanted to eliminate humanity, they absolutely could, and with relatively little effort based on what we observed. Consider the capabilities we tracked: perfect electromagnetic field manipulation, physics defying movement, and structural transformation. Something that can alter matter at that level and move through any medium without resistance. They could probably take out every major population center globally within 24 hours. We'd have to nuke ourselves and commit some sort of collective suicide to "fight back".

>>39661377
Actually, something interesting started happening in late 2022. Their mimicry began showing noticeable flaws. The way they handle light and shadows is increasingly wrong. They fail to align with prevailing ambient light conditions, often appearing distorted or inconsistent with the expected behavior of physical objects.

Their use of FAA mandated lighting frequently fails too. We've tracked instances where strobes were blinking too quickly, too slowly, or even in non-standard colors.

It's like they're getting sloppy.

>>39661481
Bird poop. That, or I'm really not as well informed as I think I am.
>>39661561
Good shit, all great captures. The triangles are human in origin, but they are also capable of mimicking said triangles.
>>39661566
Special Fx or AI with some manual editing. Definitely not real.

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>>39661716
The footage is absolutely genuine.

The splitting behavior is particularly fascinating because it may relate to those temporal inversions I mentioned earlier. As I mentioned before, our quantum arrays would sometimes detect an object's signature milliseconds before it physically appeared. In cases of apparent "splitting," we'd see overlapping temporal signatures - as if the same object was briefly existing at multiple points in its own timeline. This could explain what we're seeing in here. Not necessarily an object dividing, but potentially intersecting with itself across microsecond temporal variations.

As for the visibility itself, they don't "go invisible" in the traditional sense. Rather, they can manipulate electromagnetic fields to either mimic other objects or move at speeds/frequencies that make them effectively undetectable to conventional systems. In the Aguadilla case, we're likely seeing them in a transitional state where they're not actively mimicking anything or manipulating fields for concealment.

I respect Vallée's work, I think his "trickster" theory and our observational data aren't necessarily in conflict. Our arrays would detect subtle variations in their electromagnetic signatures when they knew they were being observed, almost like they were "responding" to monitoring. Not quite Vallée's cosmic theater, but definitely a level of awareness and reaction to being watched.

The recent decline in mimicry quality could actually support both perspectives. From our military viewpoint, it suggested operational priorities shifting away from perfect concealment. But viewed through Vallée's lens, these "mistakes" could be deliberately theatrical. They're clearly advanced enough to hide perfectly when they want to. So when they don't, is it really a mistake?

>>39652517
>the cybertruck bomber are controlled disclosure
How's the cybertruck connected to why off this?

>>39669470
Why are you not mentioning the Breakaway Civilization, they are comprised of the Germans who left at the end of WW2, these crafts are theirs and they are planning to free Earth from the jews.
http://entityart.co.uk/ufology-explained-the-german-breakaway-group-psyops-disinfo-antarctica-reptilians-aliens-u-boats-nazi-ufos-technology-flying-saucers/

>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652509 (OP)
>>39652509 (OP)
what should we be on the lookout for? what’s next? is the govt hiding science?

>>39652509 (OP)
reddit spacing, reddit writting

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>>39665297
>grey aliens swimming outside their craft, freely in the ocean
Redditor got trolled by his friend

>>39665484
I mean, with the amount of bullshit the grifters spew, they're bound to be correct once in a while.

>>39665581
They're monitoring dependencies. Power grids, water treatment facilities and a lot of military bases. They seem focused on interconnected systems and network nodes. Not just physical infrastructure, but points where different systems intersect.

>>39665815
I don't have concrete data on this. As far as I'm aware, yes. They're not interested whatsoever in "talking" to us.

>>39666123
You develop a strange acceptance, but I won't sugarcoat it. I think we're fucked. Still, you learn to live with it, same way you learn to live knowing a major earthquake could hit at any time.

I wonder if this explains why there's so much sudden interest in colonizing Mars
As a backup in case the underwater tictac people turn hostile

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>>39666187
Youtube and reddit (sorry, I know) are a gold mine, especially the really old stuff, if you know how to use search filters. So much has been deleted in the last few years, it's quite sad, actually.

>>39667254
>what were your thoughts on the jake barber interview
An absolute circus, as expected. They took a 15 second clip and made this huge piece that made the UFO community look like absolutely insane monkeys. Nobody even falls for this shit anymore, it's just time wasting. The video doesn't even belong to Jake, it's from an unverifiable source lol

Also, Jake is a damn liar. They displayed his documentation and destroyed his credibility. He never served for AFSOC. He was a "aerospace maintenance" guy for his entire AF career and his enlistment contract said "combat controller apprentice", which pretty much confirms that he never even completed CCT training. He's no expert and the photos in the piece are staged.

At this point it feels like they're literally making fun of us and aren't even trying to be clever anymore. Ross is a clown.

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>>39667753
>>39669338
I'm not going to confirm or deny things outside what I personally observed or heard through the program. I was very clear throughout this entire thread that I can only speak to what I'm 100% sure of, or at least theories and speculation grounded in what I know is real.

Throughout my time in the program, I watched different branches fight over control of information, undermine each other's findings, and jealously guard their own data. The whole system is designed to keep people in their lanes.

I could easily go on Newsnation tomorrow, spin an elaborate tale about crash retrievals and alien bodies, maybe write a book and hit the convention circuit. Shit loads of people have made careers doing exactly that.

Are there be aspects I wasn't privy to? Of course. Doesn't mean the disinfo agents aren't real and I should take their claims into account.

>>39669495
The manifesto from the Shawn Ryan podcast is fake and that whole story is a psyop. Claiming US and China are responsible behind the "drone" tech we're seeing is laughable.

>>39669677
Watch for commercial aircraft where the shadows don't quite match the sun's position, or where the FAA strobes blink in odd patterns or the colors don't match.

Pay attention to weather that doesn't move with prevailing winds, especially near power stations or military bases. The signatures we tracked showed they can maintain position regardless of atmospheric conditions, which sometimes creates these weird "stuck" cloud formations.

We're approaching a critical mass where their presence becomes impossible to conceal. When multiple threshold points activate simultaneously, it creates cascading electromagnetic effects that even civilian instruments can detect. The government will play whack-a-mole with explanations. Based on the internal fights I witnessed, nobody in charge has any idea how to handle what's coming.

>>39670050
The only guy in a position to know is Lt. Col John Blitch. I have no idea why he went on at 6:00 and confirmed UAP recovery. This looks like it's his psyop. Don Paul Bales is some nobody and a got fired from a police department for lying. Barber is also lying.

But Blitch...he's someone.

Senior Research Scientist at Wright Patterson AFB
Program Manager (DARPA)
Delta Force Sniper-Special Forces
Operations Research Analyst (SOCOM)
Inducted into the Space Technology Hall of Fame
Masters Degree in Math and Computer Science
Doctorate in Cognitive Psychology
President of Blitz Solutions Inc

Do you know anything about him?

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>>39665962
>>39668025
>Trump is like the villain in a movie where the protagonist is a dog

>>39668087
i will join the army when the standard issue rifle becomes a .50 cal lmao

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>>39669890
>Redditor got trolled by his friend
this a mid larp but the writer is at least funny

>>39669386
>Their use of FAA mandated lighting frequently fails too. We've tracked instances where strobes were blinking too quickly, too slowly, or even in non-standard colors.
strange to think this is the kind of things they get wrong.
It almost seems to imply that their thought process is so different from ours that they didn't consider the timing intervals significant

>>39669544
maybe because there is no Breakaway Civilization ?
:D

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>>39661224
the explanation for mh370 getting teleported away by orbs is one of the best I've seen given the context. larp or not this is good stuff

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>>39670050
wat is pic meant to imply?

Also I think the interview is significant in the sense of plain exposure. Maybe those details were purposely faked to make his credibility questionable while he is also providing real info?

People that know enough to know what he's talking about can take the confirmation and info given and keep working from there. While the general population can begin to grok these concepts for the first time.

There's obvious an invisible paranormal world around us that we interact with, and I think bringing awareness to that is the most significant information in all of this.

It's funny how people have been saying how they're so ready for disclosure, and now that disclosure is happening people are immediately skeptical and incredulous.

Once he starts showing the existence of these abilities (apparently with government blessing for once), we will start to realize how much of science has been purposely roadblocked from us and lied about for the past 80 years or so.

>>39654279
>>39670410
what if there are no humanoids and the crafts are the actual living beings? the mimicking thing is fucking me up because some animals and insects are known to escape or lure in prey by mimicking the other species around them. to me it sounds like a trait they evolved

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>>39670660
uh ohhh we have some actual critical thinking happening in the thread!

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>>39670660
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hdv3o7/my_friend_just_captured_this_over_nyc_121324/?share_id=ozkrr5i_3dBEbVByDbLE6&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/1hfqymz/boomerangcrescent_shaped_craft_this_one_freaks_me/


A creature whose entire existence is spent in the upper atmosphere? never needing to have contact with the surface?

hmmmmm

>>39652509 (OP)
Anyone got a tl;dr?

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>>39670840
UAPs are an ancient underwater cryptoterrestrial species that can mimick humans and our tech and are prepping for something OP doesn't specify. They kinda time travel to move around. Maybe the craft themselves are the actual NHI. All disclosure advocates are either lying or misinformed. OP is a larping faggot.

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>>39652509 (OP)
>These tracked objects emerging from and returning to depths far below our subs’ crush depth (about 2,400 feet). Simply put, their movement defied physics. I'm talking about vertical ascents and descents at 75-90 degrees with constant velocity, no cavitation, and no acoustic signature.
Why would their be cavitation, acceleration against mass, or an acoustic signature from a gravitic drive? It's warping space around them, not plowing water/air out of the way.

Part of why it's so hard to get good pictures of them too, gravitational lensing distorts the light.

>>39669470
> They're clearly advanced enough to hide perfectly when they want to. So when they don't, is it really a mistake?
are you suggesting the increased activity and worse mimicking is all on purpose to let us know they're here?
If thei imitation capabilities can be applied to other things other than aircraft that would explain humanoid and entity encounters. maybe people who claim to have seen creatures are seeing these objects. this theory makes a lot of sense now

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>>39652509 (OP)
OP, what do you know about OPSEC?

The way I see it, you're blown. You gonna bug out now.. or take a ride in black bag?

100s of craft show up, OP doesn't explain where they go when they're done?

Something something…Solomon’s temple, Jack parsons, Chinese unlimited payload capacity, Salvador Pais, Miguel Alcubierre, MEST, Tracy Twyman, Russian dusty plasmas, Loosh, Archon's, USS liberty. Mithras, Saturn, John dee

>>39656732
Drowned God was the original disclosure game. Even the events surrounding the developer are spoopy.