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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

Previous thread: >>48694447 →
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This is the thread
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Somebody boil shitokonigger alive
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>>48710834
There's no Shion or nigger in the OP.
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Read Muv-Luv
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>>48710821
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>>48710983
Why is this goat so happy?
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>>48711025
she fucking loved sotsu
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>>48711029
She's evil and evil people like bad things.
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>>48710880
I did like a decade ago.
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Watch Twin Peaks.
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>>48711103
too difficult for most anons here
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More like Twin Cucks.
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twin shits!
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Teen Dicks
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twink cheecks
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https://x.com/higurashi_mei/status/1880178249101201793

Thank god Mei is finally dead.
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>>48711947
Let's just hope that the entirety of Gou and all the garbage it brought is shoved deep down in the trash and forgotten about for good once Mei is dead. I also hope those GARBAGE Passione designs fuck off as well Kira was peak
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>Maebara-san I finally understand, you were my AC all along!
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>>48712539
Dilatations gone hardcore
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Now that Mei is ending, which fans suffered the most during the Gou Era?
Mionfags?
Satokofags?
Rikafags?
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>>48713395
satokofags, no doubts about it
she's practically a completely different character now, mionfags getting the buttjab and rikafags having yet another 'ryukishi makes their 1000 year old loli do something stupid' moment pale in comparison
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>>48713395
>Satoko is no longer a kind sweet girl who cares for any of her other friends besides Rika
>Rika matters more to her than Satoshi now
>Goes out of her way to be extremely cruel to the ones who care most for her when she kills them (Shion, Keiichi)
>Made the uncle who planned on raping her when she got older into a goofy joke character and the one who made Satoko try to end her murderous plans instead of her friends
>gets away with everything in the end
and to add extra salt to the wounds
>is the only girl whos husband we get to see interact with Satoko and play a role in the story, making her shippers suffer.

I'm not even a Satokofag and I can admit they got the worst end of the stick, I really don't know how they haven't burned down 07th Expansion studios yet I guess this is just what happens when your girl just isn't as popular as the others
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https://x.com/NeneAmanoVTuber/status/1880382355569013037
ZTS retweeted this kek
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>>48713562
>Deleted
What was it?
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>>48711947
i'm just surprised it lasted this long
anyone been playing it recently to have a sense for how it got along? launch was real rough with a wide variety of shit designs and the constant crashes
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This is a longshot, but does anyone have early music from Xaki? His website lists music from doujin games as early as 1991, and that he was in a band called Octopus Daughter.
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>>48713708
It was about Mei. Something about how 4 years was pretty impressive for this kind of game but also that they were glad their favourite series was free from mobage slop.
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>>48713395
>>48713417
>>48713501
The ones that hang around here turned into psycho demons to turn their hearts away from the evil that was done. Just like her in an ironic way. However I shudder to think the suffering of a few oldtokofags I used to talk to who actually liked her as she was. The way Tatari was twisted in Sotsu for instance when she was faking her own abuse. That's something a demented fanfic writer would think up cause they hate the character.

And Ryu said in an interview he wanted to "have the next anime be about Rika going yandere, if people really really begged and wanted it *wink*" or something. I shudder to think.
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>>48713395
Rika was turned into an utter retard and Mion's "arc" was a travesty, but Satokofags were stabbed through the heart only to be replaced by a cheap doppelganger. They have my pity
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Should've just adapted the damn gacha
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>>48711947
Does this mean the people that were working on porting the stories to 07th mod will finally finish?
Also wished this meant Ryukishi would finally finish Ciconia but sadly it doesn't correlate
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I don't plan on watching GouSotsu but I remember watching a pretty thorough review and thinking to myself that half of these problems wouldn't be there if they didn't do this weird "sequel disguised as a remake" shit. Neither the mystery nor Satoko's development was really allowed to breathe. I hope they do it for Umineko just so everyone can suffer. Awkwardly rewrite all of Yasu's mysteries to make Natsuhi the culprit.
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>>48713395
Anon we're still dealing with mindbroken Satokofags everyday since Gou, I don't think there's ever been a series as catastrophic as Gou was to older fans.
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>>48714430
The whole thing just made no sense, not once did I feel like the actions the characters took made sense to their characters it was just one long shitshow of seeing Ryukishi force the club members to act OOC to make the story work
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I'm hoping we get another video game based 07th IPs that isn't a gacha, something like Golden Fantasia or Days.
Would a Rose Guns Days action game or Higanbanna survival horror game work? Maybe in Higanbanna's case a visual novel remake with voice acting and some puzzle horror mechanics
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>>48714424
>Ciconia that high
Come on anon
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>>48714430
>I hope they do it for Umineko just so everyone can suffer
but how do they find a worse twist than shkanontrice
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>>48714513
Consult the KnownNoMore videos, I suppose.
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>>48714496
I just really liked the arc if one counts the extra after finishing the story
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>>48714424
Why are there three Higanbanas and how do I tell which arc/part/day you're implying?
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>>48714770
Nta but by the character? Shouldn't it be mesomeso-san, camera and the play? Either way putting any of that above Umineko arc 8, Higurashi Arc 4 and RGD s1 is deranged
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>>48713395
good show fans
but I imagine satokofags since the show showed her worst possible side
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>>48713983
well rika is the only one that hasn't gone apeshit yet (unless you count umineko which I don't)
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>>48715478
Nobody wants Sotsu 2 though, which is what that sounds like. Make it in character, make it meaningful.
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>>48714513
Jessicatrice
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>>48714513
Battlertrice
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>>48713395
Everyone.
It brought in the Umineko crowd
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>>48712539
Satoko's virgin blood...
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New Mei stuff:
Well, it's just a rerun of an old event that didn't even get an expanded epilogue, so it's just two LINE stamps,
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>>48717334
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>>48713395
Is this even a fucking question?
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>>48716934
Give me titty shion or give me death
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>>48716934
>a little bit of extra tiddy meat is 'one of the most vile things'
once again proving twitterfags aren't even human beings
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SatoKei chads we are WINNING
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>>48717161
Satoko is not a virgin, Keiichi statutory raped her, and Troonppei is not killing her in that story.
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>>48718070
Cute and CANON
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>sperg is actually reading higurashi now
wtf happened?
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>>48718232
Sperg's accident was not your fault, you have to let it go.
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>>48716934
Twittertards are the worse
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>>48718828
seeing that name at the bottom is like a horror sting
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Haven't checked this thread for a few months, glad to see nothing has changed
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SEX with Dlanor
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Someone actually translated ep 2 of stageplay
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>>48719427
woah mama
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>>48713791
It suffered from heavy power creep during the first three years, but that was also when it was most popular. It got a boost in popularity which likely led to extra life with the combo of the Steins Gate's collab and the high Satoko/Rika debut. Note the first developer handling Mei was replaced around when Sotsu ended so it was likely they only planned to let Mei run during the anime's run originally.

At some point though, they started doing dumb stuff, like heavily reducing 6 stars illustrations with paired characters, or doing banner with 2 unpopular characters together (rather than 1 popular to carry the other one) and tried to stop the power creep even though the overall gameplay was unchanged, so there was just less of a reason to roll for new cards. Some Japanese fans complainded about too many Rena/Keiichi, Mion/Keiichi and Satoko/Rika cards, but it's dumb.to hear them if they were selling. They also outright stopped advertising the collabs, just promoting them with just a few extra tweets compared to standard events, no trailers/commercials anymore and obviously they stopped getting attention to the game.

After one year and a half like this suddenly they reduced banners to one card and started doing event reruns every month, something that used to be very rare. This was probably when they had decided to end Mei, just hadn't announced it yet. They also started doing stuff like giving Keiichi cards fairly consistently after he had been shafted post-launch compared to the girls. They also had been doing story updates monthly for a while during those dumb changes I mentioned above, and this part was good, unlike everything else. Then suddenly the story updates stopped when they reduced the number of cards. Like I said, I think this was when they were planning to the end. After a break in story updates, there was a huge final chapter that resolved almost everything although you can see some rushed stuff and last minute changes (like Une who had been helping the 93 party in the final chapters doesn't get a single line in the finale or the quick resolution to the seemingly brainwashed goddess Kazuho, or how one of the TIPs goes back to explore Chisame's/Miyuki's backstory even though it had little to do with the current plot and was there mostly because hinted at it beford) - it feels like this final arc was meant to be a Minagoroshi and they suddenly changed course into Matsuribayashi right as they faced the culprits.

That said, on the positive side, the resolution was pretty good even if not r07ish. The villains were defeated in climatic battles, the resolution was bittersweet but fitting. One disappointing part was that they had been hyping up the God-like entity behind the culprit for years and then... just didn't deal with them at all. It's just implied they won't bother them directly again and that's it. The final chapter says the God villain was related to fragments of tragedies related to another Satoko and if (Mei) Rika saw those fragments she'd get angry at (Mei) Satoko. The cast party outright says the God wasn't a Mei character, so it was probably meant to be Lambda, Sotsu Witch Satoko or something like that, but for some reason I guess r07 pulled out permission from the Mei staff to use her. Based on Kichi Kanou's final message about Mei, the part of Mei's plot elaborated by r07 was all the stuff about parallel worlds so maybe r07 will use that and the God villain in another story.
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>>48717334
I was actually surprised they included those two new stamps after the end of service announcement and you can't even spend money in-game anymore. Gives me hope they're maybe still holding back one new event.
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where did italian anon go
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>>48719835
He is still on X.
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>>48719427
What about kissing Dlanor?
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>>48719912
That goes without QUESTION. Same as MARRYING Dlanor.
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For me it's Lamdadelta and Maria
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>>48719982
I need Battora to kiss Dlanor. On the MOUTH.
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>>48720108
which mouth...?
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>>48720136
A loving kiss on upper mouth... And devouring, absolutely digging in on her lower mouth.
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>>48720108
Des
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>>48720176
you know, thinking about it, the complete lack of a good quality koikatsu card for battler means AI is legitimately more useful for making umineko content
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>>48720176
Extremely BASED.
>>48720188
There's like one or two, actually. Not good, but not bad either.
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>>48720210
i just remember the one that got posted a lot by the koikatsu anon a few years back that looked absolutely horrid compared to the quality rosa and relatively good maria
it takes a lot of work to make a male look good in the engine, never mind one that's actually meant to have a masculine figure, so i'm not surprised just kinda disappointed
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>>48720218
That's koikatsu for you. I'll clean up this battler, actually, his outfits are fucking horrid, no hair accesories on anything beyond the first one, last two are some other unrelated people. And then do some more stuff with my Dlanor card.
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>>48710880
I've never read a VN that wasn't by Ryukishi07.
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>>48720188
>the complete lack of a good quality koikatsu card for battler means AI is legitimately more useful for making umineko content
Male cards in general are just cursed for KK, the only accurate ones I've seen seem to be the Danganronpa ones, though I guess Keiichi also has a decent card.
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anyone have that image of rena lifting her shirt up and showing her bra while class is in session? i remembered that it exists.
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>>48716934
this guy isnt actually anti lolicon. he just doesnt like the sprite oddly enough. still in that thread its insane how many umineko fans delude themselves to think ryu is somehow reformed or was forced to write loli fanservice for the paycheck.
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Ok, I got to the choice in Uminkeo ep 8, and I'm wondering why would the audience be convinced that Beato's trick is magic? I kind of understand why Ange would believe it, but after 7 episodes for mystery why should I accept fantasy now?
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>>48720176
Such a shame beatrice hogs battler all to himself. I wish we got me art like this. Yuri just isnt the same.
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>>48720442
Ailess post
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>>48720457
This poster is trans.
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>>48710880
Without Muv-Luv it cannot be semen.
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I want to live with Satoko...
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>>48720503
pocky sucks
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i don't get it, why are people calling beatrice trans? is it her appearance or something?
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>>48719835
The mystery remains mysterious
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>>48720668
Finish it, anon.
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>>48720765
post spoilered if you have to or i'm just going to assume it's made up gen z shit. if it's her appearance i mean, she IS a white woman
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>>48720668
>he doesn't know
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>>48720964
i have nothing against trannies i'm just not in the loop on normie memes. learn to green text by the way it's not THAT amusing.
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>>48720668
Nah it's something that you learn about in Chapter 7, and before someone replies it's just shitposters or "muh discord boogyman" People have been calling Beatrice a tranny for years since that chapter dropped which was a huge part of what pissed so many Umineko fans off in Japan as well.

Now if Beatrice is ACTUALLY a tranny depends on you, the vast majority of Umineko fans believe it to be true despite there being no real confirmation either way
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>stage play Erika actress
preparing for the one-piece swimsuit scenes
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Sayo never once was given a choice or told the truth until she solved the epitaph. She never had a chance. Regardless of birth sex, she is a woman, because every single person in her early life failed her to an extreme degree.
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>>48721104
>Regardless of birth sex, she is a woman
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>>48721117
Sidestepping the schizo post, yes, Sayo's case is extremely unique. Most people wouldn't raise a eunich as a girl for 19 years. She's right to be inanely confused.
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>>48720668
>why are people calling beatrice trans?
Strongly implied in the manga and last episodes left that he's a biological boy with gender identity issues. The attempt on his life during his early years fucked up his sexual organs. Even he's not 100% sure about his birth gender.

Anyway, I always found Beatrice's motivations stupid, and that she/he goes around having romances with all 3 cousins too far-fetched.
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mean to tell me this nigga Battler gay??
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>>48721193
Oniichan belong to Ange, so no.
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>>48721193
While, in my opinion, the implications of Beato being a biological man are more solid than her being a biological woman, the truth is that Ryukishi left this issue vague on purpose. It's hard to tell if Battler knew or not about Beato's gender identity issues when he made the silly horse promise. So Battler's sexual preferences are also left up to interpretation.
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>>48721166
oh, i just looked into it. that's definitely not what being trans is. beatrice is a woman. there's no implication of it whatsoever. what are you people on? sayo makes more sense than that shit.
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>>48720430
I know which one you are talking about
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Sayo is a woman because she is retarded. She was born with a penis by the way.
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>>48721298
could you post it please. it was really hot
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Hi kizunatranny. You will never be a real woman.
https://sorel.substack.com/p/suicide-of-the-golden-troon
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>>48721590
Just like Beatrice!
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>>48721574
Sorry I must have been thinking of a different one
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7274721
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>>48721087
Cute.
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>>48721620
that's cool. what you posted was really nice too.
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>>48710818 (OP)
There´s a least some good news: https://x.com/The07thNetwork/status/1880184598950449200
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pain
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Hag feet
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>>48722315
Disgusting.
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>>48722362
Hey, she's like... 40!
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>>48719811
If we're lucky, they'll do a proper conclusion to the St. Lucia storyline, given how prominent that subplot was despite not really being relevant to anything.
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>>48722405
mei had a plot?
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>>48722643
Yeah, structured like the VN, even having TIPs.
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>>48722405
Kind of feel like the Christmas event was supposed to be that, since it even had Rika looking back on everything she went through with Satoko in Mei's St.Lucia. It'd be nice to get their graduation and some solid view on what they're planning for the future aside from the generic "I wish we can stay together forever" though. It's bizarre they had an epilogue in 1993 with Mion and Rena appearing and didn't even mention them.
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>>48723190
would you kindly summarise it bro
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>>48722315
What the fuck I love Umineko now?
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>>48721597
KEK
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>>48721193
>constantly wants to feel up tits, even if those tits are related to him
>will flirt with women who want him dead, dick so powerful it makes erika want to lock him up in her sex dungeon
>only starts a relationship with beato once she has died and been entirely physically reformed to be 100% a woman, with no chances of having anything other than a puss under that dress
anyone who calls this man gay lacks reading comprehension
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>>48725011
So
>want to feel up tits but
>the only girl into him is a BPD schizo who wants to lock him in chastity
>ends up falling in love with a MtF man with a mangled dick
Nice "straight" protagonist bro.
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>>48725011
my hero...
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>>48725037
meant for >>48721104
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>>48725034
>>48724954
>>48721597
This poster is trans and American, therefore his opinion is invalid.
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>>48725048
If being trans is not valid why didn't Battler bring it up against Beatrice?
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got this one from /vn/
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>>48725125
That AI video one kills me every time
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>>48725144
same but it gets deleted every single time
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>>48720980
I don't think Japanese fans ever cared about Sayo's gender, their beef with Umineko has always been Ryukishi being a pompous asswipe about the mystery genre.
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>>48725407
h-holy fuck... sniffffff
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>>48725125
kek
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>>48725416
This thread has good taste sometimes.
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what is it about WTC that attracts all these footfags?
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>>48725812
Feet are the most popular non-pussy/tits/ass male fetish with no close competitor, I don't think WTC is special in this regard.
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>>48725833
i'm gonna have to doubt you on that one unless you can show me a chart, i refuse to believe it beats thighs
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>>48725836
>Researchers using a polling agency to conduct a survey of the general Belgian population in 2017 found that 76 of the 459 male respondents (17%) ... answered "Agree" or "Strongly agree" to a fetish interest in feet.
More than 1 man out of 6 in the general population.
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>>48725925
okay now how about the stats for thighs
and perhaps even an actual stat from a general population and not just a small sample from one country, the world can't even decide on whether boobs or butts is better how can i be certain belgians aren't just an outlier
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>>48725953
As far as I know there doesn't exist an in-depth study about every major fetish, though feet pretty much consistently come first in the body parts fetish categories online.
>how can i be certain belgians aren't just an outlier
That's a bit silly to just assume belgians are an outlier, it's not like Belgium is known as the footjob nation.
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>>48726047
well after doing a bit of research i found freud actually noticed the frequent interest in feet in the same papers he talked about oedipus complexes, along with a fair few other papers backing your claims of it being very popular (though this was conducted on a fetish forum so make of that what you will), so what do you know there's some scientific backing to it
freud also mentioned it was likely to do with it being a substitute for a penis on a woman, hence the whole smell thing, but i can't imagine footfags will ever be ready for that conversation
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Miotsukushi has been a lot better than Matsuribayashi so far. It's nice seeing Rika be more proactive, as well as her playing detective with K1.
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>>48726244
inb4 shitokofag has a thread long meltdown over this statement.
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>>48726244
It's been said Ryukishi intentionally wrote Matsuribayashi to address the adults' issues while leaving Miotsukushi to focus on the kids, which sounds kinda retarded so I wonder how true that is. I'm just glad Miotsukushi exists at all, if for no other reason than because the Staff Room to Matsuribayashi basically says "if you think you can write a better ending then do so" which is a hell of thing to say after bitching about having to reveal the answers to your mystery and then writing a mediocre conclusion (Takano and Satoshi parts are good though).
>>48726503
Yeah it's annoying but complaining about it doesn't contribute much to the thread either
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>>48726612
I could believe that. The Masturibayashi Staff Room frames Masturibayashi as "a solution on how to beat Takano" or something, not an actual story which is a strange way to put it. I think R07 envisioned fans feeling challenged to create their own alternative endings but that didn't pan out. Ironically that happened with Umineko with that silly Rosatrice theory, kek
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>>48726503
Shion broke you
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>>48721087
her?
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had a dream about beato's bussy...
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>>48726503
What's funny is Miotsukushi does a lot more for Satoko than Masturibayashi. The only reason a Satoko fan would prefer the latter is for shipping reasons.
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>>48727707
stop insulting european women by calling them all trannies, they're not THAT ugly
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>>48727707
Go back to sleep battler
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>>48710880
I did
I hate Sumika
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/126386824
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pain
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>>48730736
Satoko's futa cock
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>>48730736
Cute and canon, she craves that Big Cop Cock!
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>>48725144
new video dropped
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>>48732289
Sperg looking hella valid in this one
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>>48732339
Sperg is Dlanor not Battler.
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