Introduction: Homemade Tin Can Turbine With 3d-printed Compressor
In this instructable we will learn how to make a really working gas turbine engine at home. There are many tries to make a homemade gas turbine, described over the net. There are even some instructables, e.g. that one:
But only a few of them are truly functional.
A typical report on a successfull homemade turbine begins with a bunch of photos of machine tools and stages of material processing. One usually needs at least a lathe, a milling machine and an argon welding tool and this makes the gas turbine engine much less affordable than it could be.
The most complicated thing to manufacture and the most critical for the turbine to work is its compressor stage. Usually one needs CNC or manual driven precise machining tool to build it successfully. Luckily to us, the compressor works at low temperature and can be 3D-printed. Also luckily to us 3D printers are affordable nowadays and most DIY-ers have them at home.
I must note that I'm not the first who got an idea to build the sufficient parts of gas turbine by using 3D printer. AFAIK the first one was Axel Borg from pulse-jets.com forum. You can take a look at his site: amazingdiyprojects.com. I must also note that the turbine, being described here, is totally independent elaboration from the one presented at amazingdiyprojects.com. I must state clearly that neither me, nor people known to me, have ever purchased the mentioned project, and hereby I am in no way can be imputed in disclosing any proprietary information in this instructable.
People skilled in the art can note different design, different technology approach and even different blade angles. The only contribution of Axel Borg was that he had shown that 3D-printed version of compressor will work if necessary efforts were applied. It appeared to be enough for me to apply the necessary efforts and design my own version. I'm gratefull to Axel for this.
Another thing, being usually extremely difficult to reproduce at home is so called "nozzle guide vane" or simply NGV. Luckily by trials and errors I've found a way how to make it without using an argon welding machine or other exotic tools.
You will need:
- 1) 3D printer, able to work with PLA filament. If You have an expensive one, like Ultimaker - good for You, but cheaper things, like Prusa Anet, will suit too;
- 2) Obviously You should have some slicing software, properly tuned to work with Your printer;
- 3) Even more obviously, You should have a proper amount of PLA filament to make all the printed parts. ABS won't suit for this project, since it is too soft. You probably may use PETG, but it is untested by me, so do it on the risk of Your own;
- 4) A tin can of proper size (100 mm diameter, 145 mm length). Preferrably the can should have a removable lid. Many sorts of tea or candies are distributed in such cans. At the least case You can take a common can (from say pineapple slices) but then You will need to make a metal lid for it all by Yourselves;
- 5) A sheet of galvanized iron. 0.5 mm thickness is optimal. You may choose other thickness, but You may face difficulties with bending or grinding so be prepared. In any case You will need at least a short ribbon of 0.5 mm thick galvanized iron to make a turbine shroud spacer. 2 pcs of 200 x 30 mm will suit;
- 6) A (smaller) sheet of stainless steel to make the turbine wheel, the NGV wheel and the turbine shroud. Again 0.5 mm thickness is optimal. You may use a chimney steel or even to sacrifice a stainless steel dinner dish for this purposes. A wide spread 555 "kitchen steel" works extremely well here;
- 7) A hard steel rod to make the turbine shaft. Beware: mild steel simply does not work here. You will need at least some carbon steel. Some hard alloy will be even better. Here we will assume that the shaft has its diameter of 6 mm. You may choose another base diameter, but You will then need to find proper materials to make a hub;
- 8) 2pcs 6x19 ballraces 626zz (11/14/21: earlier it was written 6x22 - it was a typo, thx to Yossis2 for note);
- 9) 1/2" pipe nipple 150 mm long And two end fittings;
- 10) A drill and some rig to secure it;
- 11) A grinder. In the worst case some whetstone will suit;
- 12) A dremel (or other hand engraving tool) with engraving discs;
- 13) A general purpose metal working tool set including hacksaw, pliers, screwdriver, M6 thread die, scissors, caliper and so on;
- 14) A piece of copper or stainless steel pipe to make a fuel spray;
- 15) A set of screws, nuts, clamps, vynil pipes and other common DIY stuff;
- 16) Propane or butane torch
If You want to run the engine You will also need:
- 17) A tank of propane. There exist petrol or kerosene engines, but it is a bit tricky to get them to work on these fuels. Better to start with propane and decide later, wheteher You want to transit to the liquid fuels or You are already happy with gas ones;
- 18) A manometer, capable to measure pressures of several inches of water column. Alternatively You can use a jar of water, connected to a transparent pipe attached to a ruler;
- 19) A digital tachometer is also desirable. One can certainly estimate the rpm by the sound of the turbine, but it requires a lot of experience;
- 20) A starter. To start the jet engine one can use:
- a fan (100W or more rated, and better centrifugal one)
- an electric motor (100W or more rated, 15 krpm capable; Yes You can use Your dremel here).
Step 1: Make the Hub
The hub will be made of:
- one 1/2" pipe nipple 150 mm long;
- two 1/2" female hose barb connector
- and two 6x15 ballraces 626zz.
For some reason the ballraces fit correctly to the nut parts of the fittings, so all You need here is to remove the dead weight: Use Your hacksaw to cut off the pipes from the fittings, and use Your drill to enlarge the remaining holes. You will end up with two cup nuts. Put the ballraces in the nuts and screw the nuts onto the waterpipe connector. Now You will be able to insert the shaft into the newly made hub and rotate it freely.
Step 2: Make the Shaft
Theory (and experience to some extent) says that there's no difference whether You make the shaft of mild steel, hard steel or stainless steel. So choose one, that is more affordable to You.
If You expect to get a decent thrust from the turbine I'd advise You to use a steel rod having 10 mm (or larger) diameter. However when preparing this instructable I had only 6 mm one, so we will take it as an example.
Use Your M6 thread die to thread one end of the rod on 35mm of its length. You next task will be thread the other end of the rod in such a way, that when the rod is inserted into the hub (it is assumed that the ballraces are put onto the end of the pipe nipple and tightened with the hose barb nuts) and when nuts are screwed to the end of thread at both ends, there would stay a tiny bit spacing between the nuts and ballraces. This is a very complicated procedure. If the thread is too short and the longitudinal play is too large You can thread the rod further on. But if the thread appears to be too long (and there is no longitudinal play at all) there is no way to recover it and You will need to start up with a next rod sample. Better to have an excess of rods here.
You may also want to grind the shaft with a sandpaper to fit the ballraces more precisely.
For this sample there exists one prospective material - shafts from a laser printer. Their stainless steel looks hard enough and they are exactly 6 mm diameter. Their drawback is that 20-25 krpm is their limit. However the same can be said about any 6 mm steel rod. If You want higher rpm - use thicker rods,
Step 3: 3D Print Turbine Wheel and NGV Matrices
Here are the STL files for the matrices for the NGV wheel:
Download them and 3Dprint
And here are the STL files for the matrices for the turbine wheel:
- turbine_matrice_1pass_down.STL
- turbine_matrice_1pass_up.STL
- turbine_matrice_2pass_down.STL
- turbine_matrice_2pass_up.STL
Download them and 3Dprint too.
It appears that the blade shape becomes more smooth if one presses the vane not into the final shape during one step (pass) but into some intermediate shape (1st pass) and only then - into the final shape (2nd pass). Therefore I provide STL's for both type of press matrices. For the 1st pass and for the second one.
Yes in this design the NGV has the shape of the wheel. Just like the turbine, but with mounting holes in it.
Step 4: Cut the Wheels
This design uses 2 kinds of steel wheels. Namely: the turbine wheel and the NGV wheel. To make them use a stainless steel. If made of mild or galvanized one
their lifetime would be barely enough to show You the engine working.
You could cut the wheels from a sheet of metal and then drill a hole at the center, but most probably Your drill bit will miss the center. Another approach is to drill a hole in the sheet of metal, and then to glue a paper template, so that the hole in the metal and the place for the hole in the paper template become coincident. Finally You can cut the disc with scissors.
You may find and download the templates below:
Turbine wheel template:
turbine_wheel_template.doc or turbine_wheel_template.pdf
NGV wheel template:
NGV_wheel_template.doc or NGV_wheel_template.pdf
For Your convinience the images are already in the properly scaled "doc" and "pdf" files. Load them into a text editor, capable to operate with doc-files (One can use Microsoft Office, Libra Office or Open Office for example).
Download the files, open with Your office software and print on a common paper using a common (not 3D) printer.
Now You can cut the wheels from a sheet of metal and drill the auxiliary holes. (Note that the central holes should be drilled already. Also note that the turbine wheel has only the central hole.)
It's also a good idea to leave some allowance when cutting the metal, and then grind the circular border of the wheels using a drill and some grinding device. However if You trust Your abilities to cut a good circle with scissors only, You may omit this procedure.
It might be better to make a number of reserve wheels at this step. Further on it will be clear why.
Step 5: Pressform Turbine and NGV Wheels
Freshly cut wheels are hard to be placed into the pressing matrices. To do the job use pliers to twist the vanes a bit. The wheels with pre-twisted vanes match the matrices much more easily. Clamp the wheel between halves of the press matrix and compress in vise. It really helps if the matrices have been lubricated with machine oil beforehand.
Vise is rather poor press machine, so, most probably, You will need to hit the assembly with a hammer to compress it further. Use some wooden pads in order for not to break the plastic matrices.
One may try to save some efforts by shaping the vanes using only the 2-nd pass press-matrices. However the aerodynamics of the blades will be a bit worse this case. The exhaust temperature will then be a bit higher.
Two stage shaping (using 1st pass matrices first and 2nd pass matrices to finalize the shape) gives definitely better results.
Step 6: Make a Support Tripod
The doc file with template for the support tripod is here:
support_tripod.doc or support_tripod.pdf
Cut the part from a sheet of stainless steel, drill the necessary holes and bend the part as shown on the photos.
Step 7: Make a Set of Metal Spacers
If You had a lathe, You could make the whole part from some bulk material. However not many people have a lathe at home. The DIY way to do it is to cut a number of planar discs from a sheet of metal put them one onto another and bolt them tightly to obtain a volumetic part.
These parts stay comparatively cold, so there is no need to make them of the expensive stainless steel. Use 1 mm thick sheet of mild (or galvanized) steel here.
The doc files with templates for the spacers are here:
- spacer_big.doc or spacer_big.pdf - for the bigger one
- spacer_small.doc or spacer_small.pdf - for the smaller one
You will need 2 smaller discs and 12 bigger ones. The numbers are given for 1 mm thick sheet of metal. If You use thinner or thicker one, You'll need to adjust the amount of discs to obtain the correct total thickness.
Cut the discs and drill the holes. It's also a good idea to bolt the same discs together, to clamp the bolt in Your drill and to grind them round. In such a way You can get a set of discs with equal diameter.
Step 8: Make a Support Collar
As the support collar keeps the whole NGV assy, You should use some thick material here. You can use some suitable steel spacer, or some sheet of (black) steel not thinner than 2 mm.
The doc file with template for the support collar is here:
Step 9: Assemble the NGV Inner Part
Now You have all the parts to assemble the NGV inner. Install them on the hub as it is shown on photos.
Step 10: Make a Turbine Shroud Spacer
As all predecessors we use a reaction type turbine. The reaction turbine needs some pressure to operate properly. And to keep the hot gases from expanding freely we need so called "turbine shroud". Otherwise the gases will loose the pressure immediately after coming through the NGV. To function properly the shroud has to match the turbine with a small clearance. Since we have the turbine wheel and the NGV wheel having exactly the same diameter we need something to provide the necessary clearance. This 'something' s the turbine shroud spacer. It is just a stripe of metal that would be rolled over the NGV wheel. The thickness of this sheet determines the clearance value. Use 0.5 mm here.
I think there's no need to provide a template here. Just cut a stripe 10 mm wide and 214 mm long from a sheet of any steel 0.5 mm thick. Note that You do not really need stainless here.
Step 11: Make the Turbine Shroud
The turbine shroud itself will again be a piece of metal to be rolled over the NGV wheel. Or, better, a pair of pieces. Here You have more freedom to choose the thickness. The shroud is not simply a stripe since it has attachement ears.
The doc file with template for the turbine shroud is here:
Step 12: Roll the Turbine Shroud Spacer and the Turbine Shroud Over the NGV Inner Part
Roll the shroud spacer over the NGV blades. Fasten with some steel wire. Find a way to fix the spacer, to keep it from motion when the wire will be removed. You may use soldering or brazing here.
Then remove the wire and roll the turbine shroud over the spacer. Again use some wire to make the wrap tight.
Step 13: Assemble the NGV Assy
Just do as shown on the photos. The sole connection between the NGV and the hub is those three M3 screws. It limits the heat flow from the hot NGV to the cold hub and keeps the ballraces (rather) safe.
At this step You can Use Your shaft with the turbine wheel to check if the turbine can spin freely. If not - make the alignment of the NGV shroud by changing the position of fixing nuts on those three M3 screws. Vary the tilt of the NGV until the turbine can spin freely.
Step 14: Make the Combustion Liner
The doc file with template for the main part of the liner is here:
Glue this paper over a sheet of steel. Drill the holes and cut the shape. It is not necessary to use stainless here. It appears that liner works good even if made of galvanized (roof cover) steel. Roll the cut into a cone. Nothe that to keep it from unrolling we use curling here. If the steel is soft enough You may curl even with pliers.
The front part of the liner is here:
Again use this template to make a cone. Use a chisel to make the wedge slits and then roll the thing into a cone too. Fix the cone with curling. Both parts are kept together only by friction in the complete engine. So no need to think how to attach them at this step.
Step 15: 3D Print the Impeller
The impeller consists of two parts:
- impeller_base.STL - this one is the disc with blades
- impeller_up.STL - this one is the covering (shroud)
This is Kurt Schreckling's impeller, having been modified heavily by me in order to be more tolerant to the longitudinal displacements. Note the labyrith, preventing the air from coming back due to the backpressure.
3D print both parts and glue the covering onto the disc with blades. The best results can be obtained using an acrylic epoxy here. But You may also try other glues.
Step 16: 3D Print the Compressor Stator (the Diffuser)
The thing has very complicated shape. And when the other parts can be (at least in theory) produced in DIY conditions without the use of precise machinery, this one can not. To make the things worse this part is responsible to the efficiency of the compressor to the most extent. It means that the fact whether the whole engine will be operational or not depends strongly to the quality and precision of the diffuser. That's why don't even try to make it manually.
Entrust Your robotic printer with the job.
For the sake of 3D printing convinience, the compressor stator has been divided into several parts. Here are the STL files for the:
3D print and assemble as shown on the photos. Note that a nut with 1/2" pipe thread is to be attached to the central body of the compressor stator. It is used to keep the hub in place. In this example the nut is attached by 3 pcs M3 screws. Here is the template, where to drill the holes in the nut:
compressor_nut.doc or compressor_nut.pdf
Alternatively You may find another way to keep the nut inplace. You may try to epoxy glue it if Your epoxy is good enough.
Also note a heat screening aluminum foil cone. It is used to prevent PLA parts from softening due to heat radiation from the combustion liner. As a source of the aluminum foil one can use any pare beer can here.
Step 17: Prepare the Tin Can
You will need a tin can 145 mm long and 100 mm in diameter. Better if You can use a can with some lid. Otherwise You will need to install NGV with the hub into the bottom of the tin can itself, and have further problems with reassembling the engine for service.
Cut off one bottoms of the tin can. In the other bottom (or better in the lid) cut a 52 mm circular hole. Then cut its border into the leafs as shown on the photos.
Insert the NGV assembly into the hole with leafed border. Wrap the leafs with a steel wire tightly.
Step 18: Make and Install the Fuel Spray
Make a copper tube (6mm outer dia, 3.7mm inner dia) ring. Or better You may use a stainless steel tubing. The fuel ring should fit tightly into Your tin can internals. Solder (or weld) a fuel support pipe to the ring.
Drill fuel spray nozzles. These are just 16 pcs of 0.5 mm holes evenly spread over the ring. The direction of the holes should be orthogonal to the air flow. I.e. You should drill the holes on the inner side of the ring.
Please note that the presence of so called "hot spots" in the exhaust of the engine depend almost solely to the quality of the fuel ring. Dirty holes, or uneven holes and You will end up with the engine that brings a pair of NGV vanes to white glow, while all the other gases are still cold. Such an engine will just destroy itself in bare tries to start it up. The presence of the hot spots depends much less to the liner quality than others try to say. But the fuel spray ring is essential.
Check the quality of the fuel spray by the test fire. The flamelets should be equal to each other.
Once completed, install the fuel spray ring into the tin can body.
Step 19: Make the Final Assembling of the Engine
All You need to do at this step is to put all the parts together. If things went good, ther will be no problems in performing this. Otherwise You will need to fit the parts manually.
Lute the tin can lid with some kiln sealant. If You have no access to the kiln sealant, You can use a silicate glue (Yes, that nasty office glue) with some heat resistant filling agent. One may use graphite dust, steel powder and so on.
After the engine has been assembled check if its rotor spins freely. If it does, make a preliminary fire test. Use some reasonably powerfull fan to blow into the intake or just rotate the shaft with dremel. Turn on the fuel slightly and ignite the stream at the back end of the engine. Adjust the spinning to let the flame into combustion chamber.
PLEASE NOTE: at this step You are not trying to start the engine! The sole purpose of the fire test is to heat it up and to look whether it behaves good or not. At this step You can use a cylinder of butane, being commonly used for handheld torches. No need for propane yet. If the fortune is on Your side, You can proceed to the next step. However it is better to seal the engine with a kiln sealant (or with silicate glue, filled with some heat resistant powder).
Step 20: Start the Engine
You can start the engine using any common procedure. Either by blowing air into its intake or by spinning its shaft with some starter motor.
Be prepared to burn up several NGV (and maybe turbine) wheels while trying to start. (That's why at step 4 it was recommended to make a few reserve ones.) Once You become convenient with the engine, You will be able to start it flawlessly at any time You want.
Usually You have to use propane as a fuel at this step. I suspect that if manufactured and assembled with extremely care and accuracy this engine may self sustain on butane gas (for handheld lighters and torches) but commonly it can not.
Step 21: Enjoy Yourself
Please note, that at the present state the engine can serve mostly educational and recreational purposes. But this is a fully functional turbo jet engine, able to spin up to any desired rpm (including the self destructive ones). Feel free to improve and modify the design to fulfill your (RC-flight) goals. First of all You will need a thicker shaft to reach higher rpm and therefore thrust. The second thing to try is to wrap the outer surface of the engine with metal pipe - fuel line and to use it as vaporizer for liquid fuel. This is where the engine's design with hot outer wall comes handy. Yet another thing to think about is a lubrication system. In the simplest case it may take a form of little bottle with some oil and two pipes - one pipe to take pressure from the compressor and direct it to the bottle and another pipe is to direct the oil from the pressurized bottle and to direct it to the rear ballrace. Without the lubrication the engine can only work for 1 to 5 minutes dependently to its NGV temperature (the hotter NGV the shorter runtime). After that You need to oil the bearings all by Yourselves. And with the lubrication system added the engine can run for a long time.
CREDITS:
Thanks to Kurt Schreckling and Thomas Kamps for their books.
Thanks to Axel Borg for the idea of 3D printed compressor and to Mike Everman for his excellent forum (pulse-jets.com), where this idea was published.
SPECIAL THANKS to: bbewamit on Youtube for his video of a simple homemade turbine. From that is seen on the video the turbine is doubtfully self-sustain but still the video is very encouraging.
Also note that I am NOT planning to sell and send the kits. Just get a 3D-printer and follow the instructable. Thanks for understanding.
Note that in response to public demand I've added the cross sectional view of the engine with parts labeled.
We have a be nice policy. Please be positive and constructive.
51 Comments
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Hello Laphicet,
We are building this turbine at our applied science university but are running into a couple of problems with what we assume is the fuel mixture (amount of gas / amount of air). Is there any place I can reach out to you?
Social media / e-mail etc?
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Those who are facing problem with the video, check this on youtube. The link is given bellow
https://youtu.be/EOJM1lMcSKo
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Admagian making 2 bigger ones and putting it on a bike
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How much thrust does it provide
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I would love to see this running. Can you post a video on youtube? Vimeo never plays right. All I get is "Player error: The player is having trouble. We’ll have it back up and running as soon as possible." And of course they never do.
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Sorry
I have troubles with making account on youtube, so can not do this.
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I use Vimeo frequently but have never seen that error, are you sure it's not a technical issue or firewall or similar issue causing that?
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Its just a case of vimeo not having very bright programmers. I can play youtube videos with no problem. If it was a firewall issue, it would be far better to simply say "Hey, port 1234 seems to be blocked". The only way I can watch vimeo videos is to download them and then play them locally. As such, unless I'm really interested, I don't bother. Disabling the windows firewall doesn't help.
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I can make 1 for you
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Awesome! I go do this!
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Fantastic achievement, there may not be a direct application for this 'proof of concept' iteration but with some minor engineering this could produce a simple yet effective working powerplant with many applications, I guess the point here was to show what can be done with some basic and attainable materials and some clever engineering....this opens up the previously exclusive domain of Jet power to just about anyone. The next step for me would be to develop a gearbox to turn a turboprop or helicopter rotor - superb instructable!
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admirable cookie can
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I would call it the Instructable project of the Year. When I was a child I was fascinated by jet engines and read about them but believed I would never be able to build one. What you have built there is really scary but totally brilliant. I like the way you sited your information. Your minimalist approach is what makes this a truly fantastic instructable, NO I am not going to build it.
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I absolutely LOVE this Instructable.
It shows a lot of ingenuity and is well presented.
I've always dreamed of building a jet engine, though I have absolutely no use for one.
Now I feel that I've built one vicariously through you!
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How the compressor and turbine wheels are locked to the axle? Only by tight nuts?
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21,000 RPM?
Did I miss the step where the rotating parts are balanced? What keeps the turbines and compressors from shaking themselves apart?
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Generally 3Dprinter yields nicely uniform and symmetric part with low imbalance. The same can be said about the turbine wheel: it is cut from a uniform sheet of metal and if the center hole is centered perfectly the imbalance is minimal. Both wheels are also lightweight enough for not to bother with additional balancing
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I think thats why the 'heavy' blade fell off' in the video? It's still impressive to get over 24,000rpm from what is basically scrap. I have enough stainless sheet to make the parts, left over from a project I did probably 35 yrs ago. Was pretty cheap then for a piece 2ftx2ft (plus IU saved leftover 3/32" copper sheet I bought in 1982) stuff is out there as long as you don't follow 'minimalist' advice and throw everything away every 3~6 months
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What seems more likely to me is that what is being measured is blade passes and not revolutions. I counted 28 blades, which would put the actual speed closer to 1000 rpm, which seems a bit more realistic, especially given that the pressure is around 5 psig. If this actually did 21k rpm, it would sound like a screaming banshee.
Nevertheless, cool project and impressive that it all came together to work.
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Please post instructions for welding this onto my Prius.
;)
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Amazing! I can't believe a functional engine this powerful can be made at home for relatively cheap. Can you think of any uses for it (besides educational)? (I understand additions would be necessary) Again, amazing job, (you also clearly spent a lot of time documenting the instructable).
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Amazing. I fly RC models, and was wondering if something like this could be done - congrats !
How much thrust do you get ?
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Isn't there some mathematical way to figure that out, if you measure the opening and exhaust diameter and how many rpm
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Not really. There are way too many variables. The proper way is to put it on an engine sled. One that has extrememly little resistance to linear movement. Then mount the engine on that sled and attach your measuring device to the sled. For gross measurement, a fish scale would work, but if your planning on flying it in RC, then you would need something far more accurate. THis is about the only way to get a real measurement of thrust. The mathematical way you are talking about only gets you close. From there, you can add more blades of finer size/distance to compress the air more or add a larger intake or a smaller exhaust. But shy of the sled/scale, you wont get anything accurate enough of a measurement of thrust other than ballpark.
I have built several small turbine engines as well as rebuilt, PMCS'd and maintained older helicopter turbines for racing boats. We always had to use an accurate sled. Even A&P folks do it that way. Maybe not to the gram with the real deal since they push many pounds, but same thing. small engine - small scale; large engine - large scale.
Lastly, YES, I know. The turbo-fan jet engines on helicopters actually use the main shaft to turn the transmission to turn the main rotor and tail. If you make minor changes to the engine so it pushes air instead of power and speed to a shaft, then the same engine can push a vehicle, just not as efficiently as spinning a shaft on a rotary wing or an impeller in the water.
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Did not measure the thrust yet, since the shaft is too narrow to reach good rpm digits. The _calculated_ thrust is 177 gramm-force at 21 krpm
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All the essential variables are:
Impeller diameter - 64 mm
Impeller blade height - 7 mm
Impeller blade tip angle - 46.6o to the tangent of the wheel
Intake diameter = 1/2 of impeller diameter
Angle of compressor stator blades 20o
NGV and turbine diameters are both 68 mm
NGV and turbine blade heights (or length if u want):
Turbine exit angle is 20o
Turbine shroud clearance 0.5 mm
Thats all. With this You should be able to calculate anything You want
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Really neat. Worked on the real things for 40 years. But how about English units in addition to metric. There are alot of people here that don't speak SI.
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Well.... mmm.... Any help is appreciated... Im not strong in using the imperial system of units, so U can help if U want
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google "metric english converter" any number any number are available. I would say when converting to inches go to 3 decimal places 0.00x. Our real jet engines are designed to this level.
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Google converters are out of help here. To adapt a thing from metric system to imperial one, it takes not only to know all those BTU's psi's and slugs... One actually needs to dig through a whole cultural layer. For example in range between 3 and 10 mm we have M3, M4, M5, M6, M8 and M10 threads. Note the absence of M7 and M9. And there's no specific reason for this. Its just a tradition. I know that there exists a 1/8" thread, being more or less equivalent to our M3, but concerning to M4 Im already not sure...
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do you know the thrust in foot pounds?
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Очень впечатляет. Awesome!
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I think this is the most detailed Instructable I've ever seen. Usually I ignore anything that says '3D Printer' but I'm glad I went all the way through this one. I have no use for a turbo jet engine but I'm sure I could make one if needed by downloading all the PDF files and find someone with a 3D printer to make the other parts. Very Very impressive work
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WOW! Just WOW! Absolutely incredible!
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I was thinking the exact same thing ;o)
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Do you have an approximate of the trust this turbine generates?
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See my reply to
PhilippeV2. Also If u use thicker shaft Yo'll be able to reach higher rpm and thrust. For now the thrust is limited due to 6 mm axis blossoms (goes to resonant oscillations) at 27..30 krpm. With 10 mm one it should be able to achieve ~50 krpm and give 1 kg of thrust
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What is the purpose of the combustion liner and what does nvg stand for also could I see a copy of your blueprints or plans
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A combustion liner contains the flame inside the hot section. Without it the flame would burn through the sides of the can. It also directs the hot gasses onto the turbine wheel. NVG Nozzle Guide Vanes. They are like the blades on the turbine wheel but stay in a fixed position to guide the hot gasses onto the next section of the turbine.
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Combustion liner is to make the air flow and flame to have necessary shape. Think of it as if it was a kind of flameholder. NGV stands for "nozzle guide vane" - common abbreviation among turbine builders and owners. As for blueprints - all the templates and STL files for 3d printing are already in the instructable. You can download them at will. Hopefully the photos show how to assemble the parts into the complete device
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I would love one of these if only I could figure out what to use it for
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I'm really amazed with your creatio. I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm really surprised about so complex machine or aparatus can me made with simply parts and brain. Congratulations. I take my hat off
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I agree with everyone else: this project is fantastic! A true "tour de force"! As a fellow engineer/physicist and maker/tinerer, I tip my hat to you with greatest respect. I've been wanting to make a jet for a loooong time but it just never seemed to be quite practical for someone like me--- THIS project has changed my mind. Again, kudos for an amazing success and, moreso, for its simplicity and "do-ability".
Like everyone else, I too am interested in the thrust generated. Thoughts?
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Okay, I'm going to assume this is real, and not a trick of some sort.
PLEASE.
PLEASE.
Please stay out of the plane of rotation of the compressor and turbine!
If either should fail, they will explode from the thinkg like a bomb, and all the shrapnel will be in their plane of rotation. People have been killed by this. Do yourselves a favor, and KEEP OUT OF THE PLANES OF ROTATION!
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Safety is 360 degrees Horizontally and Vertically!
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I was thinking exactly the same thing... a few more safety precautions with potential (likely?) "explosive disassembly" in mind is certainly in order. But it IS a fantastic project!
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GREAT PROJECT!!! Thanks for sharing. Takes a lot of work and ingenuity to make this.
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Very well made. Frank Whittle would be proud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Whittle).
I suggest making a intake cowling so the air flow will be smoother, and adding a small DC motor/generator to the input shaft. That motor can spin the engine, and after it started, the motor can be used to measure RPM and generate electricity.
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Truely a Tinker.
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Wow, nice engineering work, great instructable :)
Just one little tip: The real (full size) turbines use full ceramic bearings, they don't require lubrication and can operate at high temperatures.