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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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>>48534382 (OP)
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Bless bless bless and Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas Jaypee
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Merry Christmas, I want rika to sit on my face.
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>>48535475
here's your gift
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>>48536612
i'm stealing anon's gift and i'm saying thanks for it
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>>48539315
i fear the man who paid for the spicy jerk
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>>48536612
Thank you, it’s a wonderful gift
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Merry Christmas from the future to all of you.
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>>48537532
>send in the dilator
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Merry Christmas konsus
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Merry Christmas /07/th. Do you plan on re-reading Phase 1 now that R07 has finally announced a June release date for Phase 02?
For me, I bought it at launch so I need to play it again to remind myself of all that occurred.
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>>48542109
>announced release date
Good one. They'll make a game where you fuck all the club members in the ass before they'll announce a phase 2 release date. Send proof if it's real because I can't find it.
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Kurisumasu is saved!
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>>48542379
Gee Anon, why does R07 let you have TWO Jessicas?
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>>48542484
Anon just took them. Ryukishi never noticed they were gone.
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>>48542571
It's true I replaced her with a mop, a bucket with lipstick on it, a blond wig, and two bags of sand.
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>>48542655
>Jessica encounters her replacement
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Is this the actual optimal way to 100% higurashi?
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>>48542770
just do all the console shit after the main 8 + rei + hou
i don't know why the new japanese release had to make it so fucking complicated by mixing the console and original arcs
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>>48542807
>just don't bother with the console shit
ftfy
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>>48542770
You have to impregnate Rena, Mion, Shion, Satoko, Rika, and Hanyuu in a single playthrough. Only the best Higurashi players can get the true ending.
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>>48542828
And satoshi
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Just finished ciconia phase 1, first time reading it, I now regret it deepfully since it seems this shit will never get a phase 2 and it ended right when it got interesting.
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>>48542910
Welcome to the club.
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I WANT CICONIA PHASE 2 AND I WANT IT NOW ITS BEEN FIVE FUCKING YEARS
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>>48542770
No, it's the retarded way including all the non-canon console shit.
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Just finished cicona phase 1, first time reading it, and I can't overstate how much of a trans affirming, black lives supporting, whitey-killing, interracial consuming, capitalism-ending masterpiece this was. The scene where Lingji enters the warehouse factory storing the mutilated rotting by-transclits cured me of decades of police brutality and systematic generational racism..
Really looking forward to phase 2 so I can see Jamalsha, Ishackqua and Abouldmashallah jump allworldstars Jayden and the lowkey imperialist whiteys!
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This year I'm going to Jessica max. I'm learning the guitar and taking boxing lessons. I'm learning advanced math equations while doing hot yoga so I can rog limitation. I'm having my best friend dress up as a member of the opposite sex and pretending not to notice when they do that. All that's left to do is to make a tribute band based on a yet to be published doujinshi series that will be popular about a decade in the future so I'm lurking indiegamedev threads to find the next best thing years before it happens(though that's proven difficult as they don't seem to actually make too many video games) and to get my friend engaged to my cousin. I made a fanfiction full of typos but so far no witches have turned that scenario into an ironic hellscape based around said typos. How else can I Jessica max?
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I heard Jessica sucked off every Anonymous poster from the 4chan /jp/ imageboard, is that true?
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>>48545042
No that's Yasumaxxing which I can't do because I'm only half sure I'm a child of incest
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>>48545042
No way fag
I'm Rika-only
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>>48542770
The only console arc I ever hear about outside of a derogatory context is Miotsukushi (PS2)
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>>48546058
Someutsushi - >Kageboshi ->Tokihogushi > Connnection Fragments -> Miotsukushi Ura are a pretty decent narrative if you can get through Someutsushi's dreadfully slow start. They tried to mimic the first half of the Question arcs, with long slice of life segments that have minor set up for the fall out later, but with the Onisarashi manga cast, and it just didn't work out well. When things start happening after the Great Hinamziawa Disaster, it's fun though.

Even though the villain is kind of disappointing after the build up (there is a whole scene where the villain goes on about becoming a god ahead of Takano, but in the end the villain had no actual ambitions and was just working for a Tokyo politician who helped early in life), the actual confrontation and resolution are good though.

Kotohogushi is fine as a standalone story, but doesn't feel like Higurashi and kind of fails as a prequel. A lot of basic things you'd expect aren't really set up there.
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>>48546058
Miotshitkishi writer, please.
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>>48545042
nah you got the wrong blonde, that was satoko
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>>48546483
WWABK1
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>>48546483
I wish I could bury my face into that cleavage
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>>48546483
Just an average day for Teppei
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>>48545042
Jessica mouth is a graveyard of future anons
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>>48547030
Sorry meant for >>>/lgbt/38388366
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R07's dislike of nice girls is a crime against humanity.
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>>48548606
>That birdwatching master was quite the character. That must've just been a scar under his collar. Long hours with a camera strap around your neck...
>Oh well, I'm sure some country air will be good for Natsuhi.
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>>48546180
I might check it out. I'm no R07 purist, I'm just not sure if I'll have it in mind to go through another 100 hour VN journey any time soon, kek.
What's up with Miotsukushi Omote? I've heard a lot of people say it ruins the original Miotsukushi but I haven't seen any real elaboration.
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>>48548957
>What's up with Miotsukushi Omote? I've heard a lot of people say it ruins the original Miotsukushi but I haven't seen any real elaboration.

It's a very lazy rewrite of the original Miotsukushi to move the focus from Rika to Hanyuu. They do that by adding a really dumb plot twist and saying they have similar personalities and flaws as an excuse to not even rewrite most of the dialogue.

This was also partially done to make Miotsukushi's backstory fit in with Matsuribayashi's, but doing that actually just makes Miotsukushi worse. Miotsukushi PS2 actually explains the big plothole of Hanyuu not solving Rika's deaths from the start, but that's lost in Miotsukushi Omote since it had to line up with Matsuribayashi as an alternate in-game choice (and obviously the backstory can't retroactively change based on your choices). Also, like mentioned above, the rewriting is bad. Like there's one scene where a character is almost caught by the Mountain Dogs in Miotsukushi ps2 but he's saved by Hanyuu off-screen, since Hanyuu is around Keiichi in Omote, that can't happen without big rewrites, which they weren't doing. So you get the same scene where originally Hanyuu saves that character in the last moment, albeit off-screen, but it just cuts away and he's fine anyway next time he appears with no explanation.

Miotsukushi Omote does eliminate some of the reused Matsuribayashi scenes Miotsukushi PS2 has, but there are still some reused ones and it's really not enough to make up for its problems.
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>>48549415
That's unfortunate because the idea of Hanyuu living as a human is an interesting idea, but yeah that sounds like a mess. I don't even remember the "canon" reason as to why Hanyuu doesn't solve Rika's problems. I know the original idea was that she was kind of a villain and wanted Rika to stay trapped, but I don't remember what R07 settled for in Matsuribayashi.
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>>48549469
R07 basically settles with nothing and doesn't address it in Matsuribayashi. Miotsukushi PS2 had its own explanation for it, while Omote ends up doing the same as Matsuribayashi and just not touching on the issue.
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Higurashi only makes sense if Hanyuu is Rika's delusion.
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Worshiping Mion’s butt
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>>48549963
okay, and?
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>>48550011
I’ve never wanted anything more in my life
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>>48549673
>>48453957
You never responded to anything anyone said to you. I half doubt you even read Higurashi in the first place.
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>>48550376
The dude's a Rosatricer so no, he wasn't going to argue back. I've been in and out of the community for years and I never see one last very long, they just run away. They pretty much stay quarantined in the comment section of the KNM videos. I think one reason why Umineko sticks with me is because it produces such strange fans like these.
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I wish Ryukishi was still alive...
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>>48550480
probably because its such a gratuitously wrong theory that anyone arguing it is gonna get kicked out
i haven't watched it in a long while but i remember it getting some very basic things wrong, like the fact that shannon/kanon aren't their actual names. like how do you make a 10 hour theory and fuck that up?
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Phase 2 can only succeed if he includes skibidi toilet as one of the factions
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Meow's fourth personality
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>>48551621
my wife sucking invisible cocks
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>>48551621
lacks the based stamp
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>>48551621
Tell me about Mion, why does she wear the queen of hearts jeans?
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'cause Satoko was sexually abused by Teppei.
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>>48553570
Troonppei is trans, anon, you can even see her dilatation blood, she can't sexually abuse.
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>>48553586
>>48536612
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AI trained on Basuke...?
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>>48553659
yea i can do a lotta styles
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>>48551621
I love this whore, how much do you think she'd charge for a blowjob?
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>>48551621
I love Mion (sex)
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>>48554040
You should love Mion for who she is as a person, not just because you want to fuck her senseless everyday until you die.
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>>48551621
>>48554040
Wish my face was under those cheeks
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>>48553586
rika wearing hotpants is way too sexy.
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>>48553860
His art in particular seems to be really well duplicated. I only noticed at first cause it was TOO detailed, especially you know I don't think he does backgrounds. And then of course the filename.
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Jessica is alive! ALIVE!
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>>48534382 (OP)
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125611402
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I just finished Umineko's question arc and I need help. I've had the question arc on my disk for a long time before I actually started reading it and now I don't remember where and how I got it from but my sprites and the general look of the VN are exactly the same as in this playlist:

https://youtu.be/R4dIaj9H1Os?list=PLdyU6Nd-103adhYebWb_yha3RNuadQ0Om [Embed]

My question is does anyone know which version of the answer arc (there are fucking hundreds of them apparently after doing some research) I should get so that it matches this exactly?
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>>48554997
That video has ADV format with PS3 BG and sprites.
Game links are in the archive in the OP link
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>>48554997
Man, that's the super old PS3 patch for the original game. What a trip. There's no real reason to go with this for Chiru except autism. Just get Umineko Project off Nyaa and patch in the Witch Hunt script. If you want to be a purist, play the original with no VA and the OG sprites.
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Autistic question but why are some of Will's riddles "Earth to earth" and not "Illusion to illusion"? I can't detect a clear pattern. Is it just to tie into the biblical allusion and I'm just overthinking it?
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>>48555433
illusions to illusions is used in relation to when a false narrative has led to an 'illusion' of a closed room like 'kinzo didn't get taken out of a closed room because he was already dead and in the furnace, not alive and in his room', while earth to earth is more to do with actual tricks like 'the closed room is closed because the culprit killed themself'
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>>48550376
Wasn't me. I read chapters 1-8 of Higurashi. Hanyuu does nothing so there's no difference if she's a god or Rika's split personality.
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Why did the Japanese love Episode 3 so much? Were their egos really bruised by Episode 2 so hard they needed an Episode where half the murders are just blatantly explained? For me it's almost like you can almost feel the moment the story became a failed abortion of Land of the Golden Witch halfway through due to the backlash because everything I like about it besides Dr. Nanjo's murder occurs in the first half. Episode 2 and 4 do a pretty good job with hinting at the motivation behind the murders (Beatrice killing Shannon, the discussion with Battler about keeping promises, the Family Head trial) and I think Episode 3 was trying to that with the Kuwadorian shit but after that it just totally drops the ball for me. The whole Beatrice pretending to be nice and then twisting the knife at the end storyline is just so bizarre to me and I think it would make almost anyone go into Episode 4 not really giving a shit anymore what her motivation is. My cope is that Episode 3 is Ikuko's attempt at writing a story that explains how Eva survived without really knowing much, but that's a pretty poor excuse. I also fucking hate Eva-Beatrice, the next time I read this shit it will be without voice acting. Rosa's more subtle evildoing in Episode 2 was way better. I think the Japanese hated Tsumihoroboshi too, so maybe they're just retarded. Anyway, if you love Episode 3 please explain what makes it so great, it's not like I want to hate 1/8 of a story I overall like.
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>>48556454
Because Episode 3 is fun, and the tsundere Beato twist is a hilarious troll.
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>>48556454
I find Eva-Beatrice entertaining and there's some hints that Beatrice felt bad about betraying Battler, as she has a brief look of sadness before she drops the bomb. I think whether or not you "forgive" her enough for EP 4 depends on if you catch that. It was also nice to see Battler solve some mysteries. But yeah, the difficulty drop is pretty noticeable and what we've heard about Land (Black Battler and Virgilius) makes it feel like we really missed something.
Japan hating Higurashi EP 6 is hard to imagine, it's always referenced in the opening videos for the console ports.
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>>48556772
Adding onto this but Virgilius was supposed to be a Sayo persona which is interesting because Sayo not having a detective persona does feel like a missed opportunity. Erikantrice is retarded but I'll give it that one singular W
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>>48556454
the episode sucks but I like the Kuwadorian reveal and the part with Shannon and Kanon "reviving" to be with George and Jessica in the end is great.
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>>48556779
Sayo having a detective persona trying to solve her own mystery sounds neat, but that's what she desperately wanted Battler to be, even if he couldn't perform in either reality or the Metaverse. I think detective Sayo would only really make sense if it's a fragment with a different killer, where Shannon or Kanon's BODY is stated in red to be deceased. a culprit like jessica
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>>48556454
After episode 2 came out, most readers seemed to just believe in magic and didn't get why Battler was arguing. The theory that scenes could be fabrications wasn't widespread, which is why R07 changed Episode 3 to outright explain how you're supposed to read Umineko's games with Virgilia getting introduced for that purpose. But since she has to be just a piece under Beatrice, I guess that's why R07 planned the whole fake fake out, with nice Beatrice just to be antagonistic again by the end. He had to have an excuse for Beatrice pieces to go explaining and helping Battler for a while.

And, no, I think Land of the Golden Witch would have been different from the start. Don't forget Virgilius was supposed to debut there as a rival detective whose messy theories change the world itself.
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>>48556779
>Adding onto this but Virgilius was supposed to be a Sayo persona
Not quite. He was supposed to be the "man from 19 years ago" and also has a Ushiromiya emblem, so that's a possible theory, but considering how his entire gimmick was changing the world based on wrong theories, it's possible he was supposed to be an incarnation of exactly that - wrong theories about the incident, which in a way even fits Erika, who is said to have taken his role, with it being unlikely she ever made it to the island and it just being dubious theories thrown around.
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>>48556905
Bernkastel could've done it. I think the EP 3 rewrite was twofold and R07 wanted to soften up Beatrice, since she's supposed to be the heart of the mystery and everything. She has a uniquely twisted personality in EP 2 and while "in-universe" that's just her putting on a show, irl that comes off as R07 not having her character nailed down yet. Even the manga tones it down though admittedly that could've just been for space issues.
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>>48556772
I just felt that the whole reviving and rekilling people thing was drawn out and tedious, especially since it starts right after you're pretty much told the magic scenes are made up. I have to admit, it wasn't as bad as I remember. I do wanna say that I like Eva-Beatrice in Episode 6 and Episode 8, I just find the cackling villain thing annoying in general. inb4 'she's supposed to be childish.' Thanks, I know.
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>>48556977
1-3 very much suggest a Beatrice that no one in their right mind could ever pity. It's 4 that suddenly acts like you're a great big jerk for not feeling bad for the murderous austistic bitch. I think even Sayo herself would find something wrong with the narrative from 4 onwards. It's so insanely apologetic.
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>>48557073
EP 4 wasn't too apologetic for Beatrice, even at the end it comes off as more of putting down a miserable creature. It's mainly the end of EP 5 where it gets bizarre. I think the idea is its supposed to be a hint about what happened in Prime (eg Sayo wasn't the one who actually pulled the trigger) but it's easy to see it as Battler just being a gigantic simp. I personally took it at face value because evaluating morality when it comes to wildly supernatural stuff is a crapshoot
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>>48557073
She's pitiable right from the start of episode 2 with her love hang-ups. In ep 3 it's obvious she's not just acting, and then she gets bullied by Lambda in the tea party.
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>>48557143
This is lore that a lot of fans forget or ignore, but Beatrice the Third exist SOLELY because of Lambdadelta. She used her powers to grant Sayo eternal life and control over her game board.
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>>48556977
>Bernkastel could've done it.

Keep in mind Bernkastel was meant to just appear in the ??? segments originally. It's not clear when exactly R07 decided to change things and make her an actual villain but their presence in Episode 3 was still extremely minimal.
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>>48556454
Ep 3 always struck me as rather shallow and childish. Beatrice becomes retarded to a degree that "just pretending" can't fully explain- she's dumbfounded her bashing Battler over the head with "lol you can't explain shit" caused him to shut down even though she literally said she wouldn't do that exact thing last episode with declaring "magic is real" in red. She needs Virgilia to spoonfeed her the very basic idea of just pretending to be less aggressive to lure Battler back into the game. Her pretend distress and subsequent return to evil isn't subtle or interesting, but instead hamhanded and cartoony. And as you've said, it absolutely destroyed any shit the audience could have given, because now when she becomes sad again you should be expecting another trick, a fact which is never really acknowledged by the narrative- she just becomes the sadsack she previously pretended to be, no questions asked. I don't like Eva as a culprit either, it's made way too obvious and has no real relation to the overall narrative with Beatrice. Would have been so much better if she had been an accomplice and a red herring, and Battler (and the audience) had learned how to properly look at the story but still hadn't come to quite the right solution yet.
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>>48557215
She did show up outside of ??? in EP 3, so I think by then R07 had an idea of where to take Bern.
>>48557289
I guess Beatrice was trying to make it obvious that the magic scenes were fabrications but it backfired? Honestly what gets me is Battler's outrage is a bit contrived, like EP 2 was already obviously magical to begin with, is Beatrice and Virgilia recreating 9/11 really a line too far?
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>>48557289
Another complaint I had but didn't bring up because I thought maybe I was just being stupid is the way Eva-Beatrice talks about needing to complete the epitaph as "the new witch." In reality, Eva's killings are just crimes of opportunity, but I don't think a first-time reader is primed yet at this point to approach literally everything with skepticism, which may lead to the confusing misunderstanding that even if someone solves the epitaph, they will still have to carry out the murders for some reason, which might obfuscate the motivation behind the murders pretty significantly for a first-timer trying to figure things out. Even upon re-reading it's hard to just brush those scenes aside. Don't know if that makes sense. Overall, I just think Episode 3 is major speedbump between the excellent Episodes 2 and 4 if you're taking into account the narrative as a whole. But if I wanted to be really controversial, I would say Episode 5 has a similar issue ;)
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>>48557448
In the manga, Eva is bribed by Sayo into killing in the gold room, so that's the mystery side of "becoming the new witch." It's a blink and you'll miss it moment but the idea is Eva solved the epitaph after the murders already started so it didn't count. That only reaffirms your point of how EP 3 is confusing though
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>>48557448
>>48557527
That's definitely another problem with it, unclear motives for Eva that don't even consistently cover all the murders. eg Kyrie/Rudolf/Hideyoshi all kill each other in a contrived scenario, then... SOMEONE comes and fucking stakes them for no reason. It's implied it's Eva but there's no scenario where she has access to them to do this where she couldn't have just killed them herself (reason for killing Hideyoshi aside, just have Kyrie/Rudolf shoot him first I guess). The staking literally just happens for no reason.
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>>48557647
I guess the idea is Sayo told Eva to stake any corpses she comes across in case things go south with Hideyoshi. But yeah it would've been way simpler for Sayo/Eva to just do it. I guess R07 wanted to foreshadow Kyrie being good with guns in the mystery section but its so esoteric, did anyone even predict the Kyrie/Rudolf/Hideyoshi murder triangle until the manga? I remember the common theory back then was that Eva did it, except for maybe Hideyoshi.
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Remember to use spoiler tags
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>>48557696
Sayo continuing the murders after Eva solves the epitaph never made sense to begin with. The game should be over. She explicitly says that ANYONE can beat her, not just Battler-san.

3 would be better if Eva immediately killed Sayo after solving the riddle, but maybe that would be too much of a hint. Just have Eva throttle Shannon to legitimate death and have George flip out over finding her body. Tohya knew the truth. Why beat around the bush?

>>48557919
My daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our spoilers. Specially since they're so complicated and all. We all know that Rosa is the real killer anyway.
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Great. Umifags ruined yet another thread.
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wordswordswordswords
which higu would u fug
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uuuuhhhhhh rike SEX

Higu is great, but I haven't seen an actually good thread about it in ages. You're all brown zoomers who only watched the DEEN anime.
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>>48557993
>Higurashi fan doesn't like reading
Makes sense if you think about it
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>>48558011
Surely everyone itt has actually read the vns
No one would spend their time here if they weren't attached to Higurashi, and you can't get this attached just off the anime. You have to invest so much time into reading that you experience a mix of stockholm syndrome and sunk cost fallacy
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>>48557991
It's weirdly specific. Basically the 1st Twilight is the deadline to solve the epitaph, afterwards its basically just if Sayo likes you or not. The stuff about the murders ending in EP 3 is just bullshit to isolate the winner so Sayo can check their vibes. It's cryptic enough that you can make up a better explanation but wow, it really makes Sayo look even more petty.
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>>48558171
I'm pretty sure she states VERY clearly in 1 and 2 that the survivors should focus on solving the epitaph instead of trying to catch her. Solving the riddle is the win condition. Ignoring that and continuing to kill everyone anyway because she feels like it is a very Sayo thing to do, but it's never acknowledged that she's breaking her own rules.
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Yeah, that's part of how every game starts off as what's basically a murder mystery party. The letters are just part of that and not actual rules Sayo has to follow. The actual rule is the one in Confession, and the imagery makes it clear who that someone is. At least she admits Jessica and George are also acceptable substitutes, I'd love to see that forgery.
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>>48558286
I consider the real Prime universe and the game boards to be vastly different things, but this is hilariously probably true to both. ONLY Battler is allowed to win. No other victory is considered valid. She writes it off as a fluke and keeps going.
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>>48558321
The manga has a real bitter interpretation of Sayo that I'm here for, honestly. She even says she'd rather kill George than to imagine him finding another woman. But I can get why people would hate it, since it's easy to interpret her in the VN as being like, a criminal with a code of honor, for lack of a better term? Someone who doesn't come off as a pathetic school shooter, I guess.
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>>48558348
The panel you're clipping is actually Sayo going full "TEN YEARS, AT LEAST!" about Battler, not George. I also love the pathetic Sayo, as that's the core of her character. She's a hopelessly, lovably awful person. She's so self absorbed and cruel to others while parading around as humanity's ultimate victim. It's so great. She's so much fun as a character. What a delightful piece of shit.
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>>48558368
I thought it was George because she's deeply insecure over him and it would make more sense because why would Battler cry that much over her death? But you might be right and that Sayo is more delusional than I thought.
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>>48558389
Sayo genuinely was that delusional. The other pages in the manga show that she's fixated on Chadler. George was an afterthought to her last breath.

Anyway, I don't think I'd make a contract with an entity like this.
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>>48558011
>rike SEX
Exactly, rika butt sex
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>>48558475
True.
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>>48558613
won't that hurt?
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>>48558011
Zoomers don't watch anime older than 2010, it's their disability.
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>>48558413
i would
would sign my contract with crazy
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Higurashi Ep 1-2>Ciconia Phase 1>Umineko Ep 1-2
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>>48558413
Making a contract with Lambdadelta isn't that bad normally she likes hard workers. The problem is she has no moral limits to hard workers if you grind it out she supports you even if what you're grinding it out for is a GENUINELY AWFUL IDEA
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cant believe this stupid fucking general is still alive over 3 years after i stopped being a frequent member

anyways, is satokoanon or whatever his name was here? id like to add him on discord again but im not joining kizuna
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>>48563174
>not joining kizuna
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There's this Japanese webpage that lists all the typos Ryukishi makes in Higurashi EP 1-4. Is there something similar for Umineko?
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>>48563296
No matters how many years go by I will never support those responsible for killing the general

satoko cuck if you're reading this add me on discord: kiwadays
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>>48563318
>I will never support those responsible for killing the general
That's Ryukishi fault however
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>>48563318
Sounds like you don't support Ryukishi then:
>No ciconia phase 2
>G*u/S*tsu
He killed this general. No one else
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>>48563174
>>48563318
Post this big booby beato
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>>48563318
Post beato’s boobs
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>hate ryukishi
>still choose to stay in the general dedicated to him so you can continue to complain about him years later
at some point you gotta see the light
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>>48563174
>>48563318
>batranny poster
>cuckold
Checks out. Never come back.
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>>48563442
I love the characters and the stories he wrote BEFORE he became a hate filled faggot who's bitter about Higurashi being his only well liked work. I'm obsessed with the characters he's written and all the bullshit he's put them through in the past 5 years has only made my obsession so much worse.
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>>48563442
Do you personally suck off all the construction workers that built your house?
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>>48563465
Hot...
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Kizuna won
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>>48563479
Worshipping mion’s butt for hours on end
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>>48563479
In Mion's favor, she threw bricks at them (or maybe that was Shion (Mion)?)
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>>48563465
no, but if i only like one room of the house someone else paid for i'm not gonna go in and squat in it complaining about the rest of the house and the builders who made it for years on end
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>>48563486
Based MiiSimp
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>>48563498
Sadly I have to co-habitate with the mouthbreathers that live in the other rooms, because this thread is /house/ not /room/.
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>>48563483
Kizuna supports true love!
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>>48563508
but you could easily make /room/, yet you choose to use /house/ bitching about the 'mouthbreathers' the entire time, which really just proves my point
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>>48563507
It’s just how I feel. I wish that every day she’d sit on my face as a Batsu game and I would enjoy every second of it
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>>48563412
He's working on a franchise better than redditgurashi (Silent Hill)

It's no Umineko or RoseGunsDays, but its better than higuslop
>>48563419
>>48563442
>>48563452
who are you quoting
>>48563422
>>48563441
here
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>>48563507
Love all of those mion butt gens by the way. Great stuff.
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>>48563521
Yeah, I play loud music at full volume at 3 AM and leave the toilet seat up, cry about it, we know which room owns this place. Plus we know what happened to the prodigal son who decided to move out don't we?
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>>48563542
That’s not boobs this sucks
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>>48563552
no boobs for people with your skin color
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>>48563542
You will never be an oldfag and you will always be at the antithesis of /jp/ culture. Actually the biggest pathetic redditor browsing these threads and that's saying a lot.

Take your shitty cuckold trans garbage back to Tumblr.
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>>48563558
wtf don't flip me off beato
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>>48563537
You should've asked Santa for Mion for christmas!
>>48563548
Thanks anon this new model is great
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>>48563562
I used to have pride in how long ago i used this board but ever since this place became completely unrecognizable garbage I have none

netorare is the pride of japan however and always will be the most popular tag, nothing you say will change the fact that this is more otaku culture than vtubergarbage
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>>48563549
>Plus we know what happened to the prodigal son who decided to move out don't we?
yeah, he doesn't stay in the house crying about every other room to try and feel better about his choices of home, making him much smarter than you
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>>48563542
Silent hill only had ONE good game and your high as fuck if you think this retarded hack is going to do it any justice (Not even set in silent hill btw but in fucking japan LMAO)
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>>48563572
I did, sadly I didn’t get her. If I did we wouldn’t have left my room since, I’d be too focused on her cheeks
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>>48563584
Silent Hill has 3 good games and 1 is the best one

Higurashi has one good chapter and is vastly mogged by Umineko and RGD in every single way possible
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>>48563573
You are a known larping newfag and your edited top tag chart your kin keep spamming never fooled anyone.
Netorare is a niche genre for literal redditors and their Asian equivalents, good riddance it's dying.
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>>48563590
>Silent hill 3
>Good
LOL
1 was okay but it's no where near the level of 2 and Umineko is burning garbage the seinfeld of VN's where nothing happens. Higurashi only has one bad chapter while Umineko falls off hard after the question arcs. I never read RGD so I don't know if that's good or not
Also pick a better fetish
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false beatofags don't get to go to the golden land
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What's with Umineko fans and penis wars?
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>>48563609
The only good thing about Umineko is the girls and the type of men they'd be most likely to fuck
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>>48563599
I'm not larping as anything, I am here to contact a certain pervert so I can share my findings with him again and nothing more

You can think whatever you want to think, when I checked on your clique server a year ago and stalked the logs the only one who actually mentioned me was Sperg so I have no pride in my teenage years spent here
>>48563604
SH2 is good but overrated, Umineko is incredible and you reading Redditgurashi but not RGD proves you're not ready for actually good writing
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>>48563582
What do you call this? >>48563442
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>>48563618
i know you think you did something here, but you didn't
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>>48563572
What’s the model btw? All of the mion buttcrack is glorious
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>>48563618
As an enlightened fencesitter I assure you did the thing you were attempting to do.
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>>48563615
SH2 is a little bit overrated but it's simply just that good
>Umineko is incredible
It's a story that's about NOTHING. Nothing happened it was all made up and the only people we know are real and alive are ange, Battler and his master keeping him locked in his slave room. I read a story for CHARACTERS not for some pretentious lesson about meta writing autism. Higurashi is anti-reddit only becoming reddit because of that bitch hack for making Gou and I had planned on reading RGD years ago after Phase 2 got released but hahahaha. I honestly doubt it'll be good though if Umifags love it THIS much.
Every higu girl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Umineko
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>>48563615
You come here to ERP and post about Tumblr cuckold fetish and think you are better than discord teens, get a grip.
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>>48563639
Renalingus
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>>48558368
The light novel adaptation adds in a thing implying Sayo was giggling when the murders in Prime were happening
>...The witch had one hand over her mouth, her elbow raised, and was covering her face with the full sleeves of her black dress. When her delicate hand was gently lowered, ...her face, which seemed to have lost all emotion, was revealed.
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>>48563634
I'm using Nai diffusion V4 curated preview it's pretty good can't wait for the full release
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>>48563639
Umineko is a story about true homosexual mentally ill love, the purest form of love, did you also throw a tantrum when reading The King In Yellow because TKiY was not a real book? its a visual novel retard nothing is real

Higurashi is a story about umm what if a village was like evil and stuff? the only good things from it are Ooishi, Rena, Mion and the angelmort uniform, garbage overrated series much like Higanbana
>>48563642
I am better than everyone that joined Kizuna yes
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>>48563646
Nice, that low angle is pure sex, could you do one like that with mion please?
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>>48563639
>I am better than everyone that joined Kizuna yes
At being a redditor.
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>>48563670
>Umineko is a story about true homosexual mentally ill love, the purest form of love
But none of it happend though, the boat scene could be made up for all we know we know NOTHING about Beato and Battler in those final moments for all we know they could've never met in the end.
There are three layers to reading, non-fiction, fiction and then super fiction. Non-fiction is stuff that's REAl and that it happened. Fiction is stuff that not real but is really happening in the world of the book, super fiction is the worse because it punishes the reader for caring at all by saying "Oh the stuff you read? it didn't happen none of it happend you read a book about stuff that didn't happen in a world where it didn't happen. It's just one massive waste of time in an attempt to teach a lesson that's just retarded

Higurashi is a story about coming to trust one another and how shutting yourself off from the people who care about you will only end in heartbreak... so. fucking. kino. Tatarigoroshi mogs the FUCK out of everything Umineko tries to do.
>>48563690
Ask and you shall receive
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>>48563739
Cheers anon, she’s perfect. I love mion so much.
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>>48563739
Where's his cock?
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>>48563747
Tucked in, she doesn't want to scare away Kei-chan
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Can I get an invite to Kizuna?
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Shit general award.
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So THIS is what Umifags talk about...
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>>48563798
yeah

janny should unironically ban everything /07/th
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>>48563792
Yeah
https://discord.gg/DE7pbKDp
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>>48563573
>this is the power of detcord
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Don't you feel at least some shame
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>>48563607
why does she have to suffer?
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>>48563988
How could I feel shame when I have the power of true love on my side?
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>>48564014
>she
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I'm surrounded by niggers and retards, a true tragicomedy
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>>48563670
hot beatos i love genning her too
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>>48564253
>her
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quit genning hot beatos without showing the naughty bits you're killing me here
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Ai is evil
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>>48564467
quite frankly i don't care about the morality of the whole thing when it provides more art for the nicher fandoms that're lucky to get 2 new quality pieces on a good day, never mind the lewder stuff
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>>48564467
People itt are evil and have rotten souls
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Away with you demons.
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>>48563739
>super fiction
Too ignorant to know the actual term huh? Hint: it's the name of an actual location in Umineko
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>>48564253
Do you have somewhere you post full pics?
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>>48564834
What is he ignoring?
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>>48564840
Imagefap under the lolita tag.
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go back to being horny, /07/
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>>48565046
im always horny for mion
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>>>/h/8075889
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>>48565138
Dead link, this is the new thread
>>>/h/8172914
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>>48565138
>(Dead)
clearly red boards just aren't thrilling enough
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>>48565154
If I ain't jacking it to blue posts, what's the point?
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We've got the point where fags here get off to the thought of shitting up threads for other people.
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Reminder that Rena x Keiichi is canon and Satoko supports it
https://youtu.be/frlM13fGLHA [Embed]
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>>48565289
well yeah obviously, otherwise i wouldn't be fucking satoko
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>>48565417
Keiichi...
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>>48565289
Mrs.Maebara would like a word with you
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>>48565434
VN
>>48565289
PaChinko
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>>48565434
>one word vs a whole animated sequence
this KILLS the satokofag
>>48565452
Just getting started
https://youtu.be/FrUJIyFi3cY [Embed]
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>>48565434
VN
>>48565479
Kira
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>>48565452
Rena actually went further than anyone else in the VN.

(Just ignore how Keiichi's narration here makes zero sense. "A few days later" he'd be too worried about his life and suspecting Rena and Mion too much to look back at this moment fondly).
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>>48565499
there's something kinda amusing about k1 not even realizing a girl fucking kissed him until he's told by another girl several days later
dude needs a yandere to glomp him or else he'll get nowhere
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Don't forget this line from Tsumihoroboshi.

Early on in this scene Rena also says the same "daisuki" you're onto so tightly from that Satoko scene on the bridge.
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>>48565289
>>48565479
>>48565499
>first girl
>best girl
As always.
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>>48565552
the funniest part about this is while it still says "love" for this Rena line in the current translation, the Satoko one was changed to "really like" (which is why the old translation is always posted)... it's almost like the translators didn't want the reader to get the wrong idea about how Satoko felt about Keiichi.
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>>48565499
>kisses Keiichi on the cheek after weeks of hanging out arguably longer than any of the other girls
>Still bashes her brains out
LMAO
Only took Keiichi THREE DAYS of being with Satoko to kill and die for her
>>48565552
She never says she loves Keiichi but that they'll fall in love in a normal not the same as a love confession
>>48565579
>Same translation troons that censored sprites because it did a pedophile
End of the day is that Satoko said I loved you to Keiichi, "localization trannies" do not matter when compared to the original Japanese.
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>>48565594
>Satoko says she "loves" Keiichi
>Immediately tries to murder him afterwards
This is what satokofags think true love is
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>>48565608
Satoko thinks the person in front of her is a demon using Keiichi's body, not Keiichi, when she pushes him off the bridge though.
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>>48565594
>She never says she loves Keiichi but that they'll fall in love in a normal not the same as a love confession
This is pure cope (she's saying that she loves Keiichi) but even if it was true that they were different, your argument is that Satoko saying she loves schizo murderer Keiichi who got mindbroken after 3 days is better than Rena saying she will fall in love in a normal way with Keiichi (and they take love slow because they aren't insane)?
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Holding kindergarten children hostage with a machete and gasoline is not insane?
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you guys aren't gonna believe this... but everyone in higurashi is mentally ill.
also keiichi gave mion the doll and they had sex every night afterwards
the end
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>>48565594
What did MangaGamer censor?
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>>48565620
You're talking to someone who's using pachinko scenes and kira as evidence for his ship, he didn't read the VN
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>>48565673
There was a huge outrage from Tumblr in the mid 00s about lolicon in Higurashi and a push for removing lolicon content and references, sparked by Satoko's nude sprite. One of the MG guys who opposed ended up being arrested since lolicon is illegal in Canada.

Funnily enough even the tranner mod recommends reading with a mildly censored script.
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>>48565697
mid 10s*
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>>48565594
>>48565697
Care to tell why you brought up trannys twice when it had nothing to do with your actual arguments?
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>>48565697
I'm aware of 07th Mod, but what does that have to do with MangaGamer updating their translation? You're making it seem like MG was pro-lolicon, so them updating their translation has nothing to do with lolicon controversies.
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>>48565628
>Your argument is that Satoko saying she loves schizo murderer Keiichi who got mindbroken after 3 days is better than Rena saying she will fall in love in a normal way with Keiichi (and they take love slow because they aren't insane)?
Yes. Despite spending MUCH less time together than Keiichi did with Rena not once did Keiichi ever come to doubt Satoko like he did for Rena, and in the end he chose to be killed by Satoko if it would bring back her smile and Satoko confessing that she had loved him too on that bridge before believeing Keiichi had already been killed by the demon who kills everyone closet to her and then takes the form of the one she loves most to kill her which is why she fought back out of revenge and grief over Keiichi's "death".
Rena was fully intending on murdering Keiichi and her classmates not clones or demons but her actual classmates that she believed to be her friends.
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>>48565704
I don't know about the other guy, I brought it up because we are discussing Higurashi TLs, and tranner mod seemed an accurate description of 07th-mod since they advertise themselves as such on their official channels.
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>>48565705
The anti-censorship MG guy got V&, man, I believe in the end Satoko's sprite ended up getting the towel treatment for the new release.
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>>48565661
the good ending
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>>48565697
Are you really shocked? Mangagamer has been making a few of censored trash in recent years, the antis have infected that studio years ago, mix that with a personal bias any translator could have you end up with the scene where Satoko is confessing every deep held secrets in her heart minutes before she believes she is to be killed into an awkward scene where she just tells keiichi she "really really really liked him".
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While you shipping faggots kept arguing, IRL Rena is so successful she's releasing a photobook.
https://fixupx.com/mrpg_0824
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>>48565735
I see. Still, that's a pretty massive reach made to dismiss the updated translation, since Keiichi and Satoko are close in age. It's not like she's saying it to Irie. It'd be one thing if it was the only translation change, but the entire script was updated since the original one was pretty poor and had a lot of typos.
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>>48565806
It's just a mentally ill satokofag mad that his "ship" is a distant third behind Rena and Mion, both of which got far more evidence for liking Keiichi than Satoko did.
At least we don't have the truly insane kind of shippers here (RikaKeii)
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>>48565806
>since Keiichi and Satoko are close in age
Oh boy, you should have a talk with exTumblr/X "fans".
>>48565833
Let it go Mionbro
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>>48565594
>She never says she loves Keiichi but that they'll fall in love in a normal not the same as a love confession

Like I said there, and you ignored in your reply, in ADDITION to the "we'll fall in love in a normal way" dialogue, Rena ALSO says Daisuki earlier in that conversation. The same Daisuki Satoko says in that bridge scene. It just was never translated to " love", unlike Satoko's, just "like".

But that doesn't matter, right, since the important part here is the Japanese dialogue and you're complaining about the current translation anyway which went with like for Satoko too.

Oh, yeah, you can't understand Japanese at all, right? So you probably didn't even notice that. Well, now you know.

>Same translation troons that censored sprites because it did a pedophile
The nude Satoko sprite has been censored even in the original Japanese release since Hou at least. It's really not a Manga Gamer thing, it's a "R07 isn't releasing Higurashi just in doujin conventions anymore" thing. Note even the text was changed to account for Satoko keeping the towel, not just the sprite removed.
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>>48565806
>that's a pretty massive reach made to dismiss the updated translation, since Keiichi and Satoko are close in age.
hahahaAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA This is fucking hilarious. Ever since the anime made Keiichi, Rena, and Mion look like high school teens and Satoko and Rika look like 8 year olds there's been a very large section of fans who believe there is a massive age gap between Satoko and Keiichi which has only made fans and antis dislike the ship ignoring the fact that in the VN original sprites they all look roughly the same age. So yes, they would have a very good reason to censore the script if they felt if they felt it would cause outrage to leave it as love
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>>48565858
Apples to orange comparison. One is a random sentence where the word daisuki appears, the other m consists entirely of "I loved you".
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>>48565858
>Why am I fighting with someone I love so much
Like a friend :^)
So let me get this straight it's LOVE when you say it is and it's LIKE when you say it is? Genuinely go fucking kill yourself faggot, you don't get to have it both ways. see >>48565754
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>>48565876
let me know when you got a pachinko scene like Rena got... Oh wait you don't because even the nips don't think it's an actual ship, lmao. Stop coping and accept the truth
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>>48565858
The PS3 release had censored PS3 sprites, the new MG release has the new sprites in addition to newly censored OG sprites.
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Slot machines are not canon.
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>>48565885
>Let me know when you get non-canon coomer gacha slop
No thanks I'll stick to the canon love story of Tatarigoroshi
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>>48565876
With "Keiichi-kun who I like so much", so they also cut the namedrop.

>So let me get this straight it's LOVE when you say it is and it's LIKE when you say it is?
No, that's MY argument here. You're trying to saying it counts when you want it to and it doesn't count when you don't want it to. I'm pointing out your inconsistency and how there's hardly anything unique about Satoko's Daisuki.

>>48565888
Hou was the name of a PC release first (the one that added Outbreak, Kamikashimashi and Hinamizawa Bus Stop, with this opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm8skBieGeQ [Embed]
). It had no console sprites. And still didn't have nude Satoko anymore. It has nothing to do with MG or Console releases.
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>>48565893
You're telling me the scene where Rika blows up Hanyuu isn't canon?
https://youtu.be/UTKnoQzWToE [Embed]
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>>48565902
Also, I'm not saying Hou was the first Japanese release without the nude sprite. I'm not sure when exactly it was removed, just that it had been removed already by the time of Hou.
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>>48565864
>if they felt it would cause outrage to leave it as love
That's the key point, no? I can easily find stories about the towel in gaming outlets, but nothing about SatoKei. And you explain why:
>that in the VN original sprites they all look roughly the same age
Anyone reading the VN would know the truth and not give a fuck. Have you even read the updated translation? It still has a fair amount of sex jokes and fanservice involving the cast, some of which include Satoko and Rika. MG may censor visuals out of legal concerns but I haven't seen any sign it impacts the script.
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>>48565714
>>48565754
This clearly isn't an issue of censorship as >>48565927 pointed out. There's a joke in Wataganashi where Keiichi feels up Shion and Rika and explicitly says that Rika's breast feels like "the sour sensation of a young, unripe fruit". If mangagamer really cared about removing all "loli" references then they'd remove that one, don't you think?
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>ITT: people who clearly don't understand Japanese try to lecture people on why some translations are better than others
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>>48565927
>MG may censor visuals out of legal concerns but I haven't seen any sign it impacts the script.
MG seems to set it as 2 by default >>48565697
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>>48565939
>Sex jokes and fan service =/= the MC being romantically in love with a 11/12 year old girl
Having a scene where it has Keiichi being a perv about Rika's nipples as an obvious gag is completely different from a love confession scene in the climatic moment in Tatarigoroshi. How is this so hard to understand?
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>>48565955
>mangagamer set an option in 07th mod
wtf? i think you've been mindbroken
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>>48565953
The translation that makes the most sense in context is better yes
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>>48565955
That's not MG, that's the 07th mod, and it's set to 2 by default mainly due to the voice track taken from the censore console release, in order to not be distracting if the characters say something very different from the subs (since the voice track is always censored due to being from the console release, while the text can go from matching the PC VN release (0) to perfectly matching the voiced console script (5). (2) attempts to be something between both where the mismatched parts don't stand out too much.
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>>48565964
Are you retarded? I meant that MG uses the (2) script.
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Reminder that Satoko canonically said she loved you to Keiichi, and any argument against it makes no sense and is just pure cope
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>>48565977
That's not MG, that's just the default setting of the 07th mod. Like I said, it's like that due to attempting to roughly match the voice track.
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>>48565953
Mfw Judges who have never killed anyone try to lecture murderers
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>>48565961
>the MC being romantically in love with a 11/12 year old girl
What? There's no line like that anywhere though...
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don't mind me shipping keiichi with hanyuu
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>>48565985
Bizarre Umineko cryptic post
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>>48565988
now you sir are a man of taste
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>>48565979
>even stutters when saying daisuki
I can't believe she was so embarrassed to say she liked him as a friend...
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>>48565985
>>48565989
we can never truly understand the golden witch
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Here's what reddit thought in case you were curious
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>>48565939
Forgot the MG sprites looked like something out of a cheap porn game. Arguing from the position of "the 2015 Higurashi release was done by a bunch of prudes!!!" is so bold.
>>48565833
I can get RikaKeii from the perspective of pairing the leads together. It's a bit shallow, but it's a classic. SatoKei screams "my favorite episode is EP 3" which hey, good on you, I just don't make it my entire personality.
>>48565961
It's different, yes. In that a description of a little girl's boobs would much more likely to be censored, joke or not. Until you can cite actual instances of loli censorship in the updated MG script, there's no reason to think the change in Satoko's line is due to censorship. Are you able to give this thread any interesting info or are you so lazy with your posting that AI can replace you?
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>>48566019
KeiShiibros... This is not a good outlook for us...
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>>48566019
>best k1 ship is shion
I knew it all along
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>>48565988
There was actually an old 3 volume romantic comedy Higurashi manga starring Hanyuu called Higurashi no naku koi ni "All you need is love". No idea if it actually ships Hanyuu with Keiichi though. I've seen nothing about the actual story inside.
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>>48566036
Most reddit is kind of the opposite of best, anon.
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>>48565987
>There's no line like that anywhere though
Unless you're autistic sometimes you don't need words to see if someone loves someone or not. Keiichi becomes obsessed with Satoko and believes the love he feels for her is wrong in a way and deems it's because he wants to be apart of Satokos life to fill in for Satoshi until he returms. An excuse to spend more time with her without worrying about betraying what he believes to be how Satoko views him, as just an older brother and nothing more. However as Tatarigoroshi goes on it becomes clear these feelings he has towards Satoko isn't as pure as just being a surrogate brother, slowly losing his mind with worry over her what is being done to her and how he's unable to be with her until finally he breaks

Hardening his heart he vows to murder the man who took his Satoko away, because he wants Satoko. He wants her smile back, he wants to keep eating dinner with Satoko, he wants his life to go back to how it was during those few precious days he was with her for the rest of his life. He may be young and may not say it outloud but after a certain point he realizes his feelings for her are more than what a brother should be towards a sister and it's only after Satoko tragically confesses on the bridge that she knew Keiichi could never be her "Nii-NIi" and that even despite everything she loved him not as a brother but as a man. A tragic tale of two lovers who couldn't bring themselves to be honest to each other let alone themselves until it was too late...
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>>48566036
Sorry it's actually Mion
But maybe it's Shion(Mion)?
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>>48566019
>This ship makes nearly every other shipfag massively insecure about their own ship
LMAO
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>>48566022
>SatoKei screams "my favorite episode is EP 3" which hey, good on you, I just don't make it my entire personality
What does that even mean, does shipping KeiMii scream. my favorite episode is EP2?
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>>48566022
>Series where half the story is SOL gags and is expected for ALL of them to be censored since the kids are underage
vs
>A scene where a 11/12 year old confesses she is romanitcally in love with 14 year old MC, written after the Anime and manga where Satoko and Keiichi are depicted to look much younger and older
Right so you're just talking out of your ass now be fucking serious, most "fans" chalk up the SOL scenes as gags and not serious but if there's a scene where Satoko is ROMANTICALLY in love with Keiichi they would be carrying pitchforks to 07th Expansion. Boom there you go the actual instance of loli censorship try again
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>>48566036
think of how easily Shion would get K1 if the twins' crushes were reversed.
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>>48566045
Mionbros... What the fuck...
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>>48566036
K1xShion only works in the worlds where Satoshi and Satoko are both dead btw
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Uhhh satokosisters...
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>>48566045
>Bland generic normiesafe tomboy option is most popular
figures
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>>48566072
I don't think it works even then, since Shion sort of assumes Satoshi is dead in Watanagashi-hen.
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>>48566084
>since Shion sort of assumes Satoshi is dead in Watanagashi-hen
By the time she really accepts Satoshi's likely fate she already went full schizo
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>>48566080
>being the leader of an influential family that also happens to be part demon and kidnapped government members
>bland generic normiesafe
Try harder
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>>48566062
Do you think the type of person to demand censorship of loli would give it a pass if it was framed as a joke? I can't tell if you're trolling or you're just that isolated and out of touch with how other people think. If it's the latter that's pretty funny considering the core message of Higurashi.
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>>48566045
>>48566019
>>48566074
Redditor here, I can confirm we all hate SatoKei and love KeiMii.
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>>48566084
IMO I think the ship works best in either a world where Tatarigoroshi happens and the GHD occurs with Shion helping schizo Keiichi recover and them bonding over their love for the Houjou siblings realizing they were the only ones who truly cared for them, or in a world where Shion slowly falls in love with Keiichi after waiting for YEARS for Satoshi to wake up becoming guilt ridden with self-hate for feeling this way towards Keiichi, although I wouldn't want them to actually get together in this world
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>>48566072
a world like that almost existed...
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>>48566099
>Do you think the type of person to demand censorship of loli would give it a pass if it was framed as a joke?
Yes you fucking retard have you talked to ANY fan of Higurashi outside of here?? They give a pass on that shit as it being a retarded gag, could you fucking imagine how they would react if they read the VN and it had Satoko telling Keiichi she loved him? They already go fucking berserk if you bring up Satokei in general
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>>48566103
>reddit is right for once
holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdgfuZQUpnw [Embed]
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>>48566122
I have and that's why I suspected you're not actually trolling and are truly that delusional. I guess that's why you project onto Tatarigoroshi K1 so much.
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>>48566122
Pretty much. They cope about about loli gags being problematic jokes, but then lose their shit when they see stuff like >>48566074.
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>>48566141
He went schizo like K1, the difference is that instead of actually accomplishing anything he just sits around and posts the same ancient ass screenshot anytime someone mentions any other ship other than Satoko x K1. His mental capacity to see how other ships have way more evidence has been greatly diminished as a result.
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>>48566111
God I would kill for this to get an OVA imagine
>Shion vists Keiichi regularly being the ONLY survivor of the GHD
>Her entire family is dead making her the next head of the sonozaki family ironically reclaiming her birthright
>Her whole life she grew up not expecting to lead her family nor wanting it anymore only for it to be thrust onto her
>The people who she believes most likely killed her Satoshi are all dead and there's no way she'll ever figure out the truth now besides talking with Keiichi and seeing what he knows
>The only other person who even knows of Satoshi's existence is Keiichi
>Keiichi would be the only other person to understand how it would feel to be an outsider in the village, to feel like he had no allies and how it feels to love someone who is hated and demonized by the village unable to help them until it was too late.
They were literally MADE for overcoming their grief and obsessions with the houjous together. Both Shion and Keiichi grew up chronically alone, with no friends and so the second they felt that love from the Houjou siblings they fell HARD, Ah I can imagine how it would end too with Keiichi finally realizing how much Satoko meant to him and that he tried his hardest and all he can do now is keep the love he still has left. It'd be so roooomantic Keiichi breaking out of his mental asylum chasing after a Shion in total despair over being forced to move away to live with relatives either in America or far away in Japan finally accepting their feelings for one another and accepting the future no matter how dark it may seem... like the ending of love exposure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfQ85EK7gmQ [Embed]
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>>48566141
>I have and that's why I suspected you're not actually trolling and are truly that delusional
See >>48566147 and then chug a gallon of ammonia and bleach
>>48566153
Same for you

Until you post a love confession like Satoko did where the girl straight up tells Keiichi she loves him then Satoko remains in the lead
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>>48566153
>His mental capacity to see how other ships have way more evidence
No one is saving you from 5th place Mionbro.
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>yellowcuck ruined another thread
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>>48566164
This would be some truly tragic kino.
They would both carry on the legacy of Hinamizawa... but with the three families feud wiped out, they could make something new, something better!
>>48566188
Pottery
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>>48566188
Takano was never like that with Mion.
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>>48566153
Well, K1 didn't really accomplish anything in EP 3 either, since he did it too late to stop Satoko from going completely off the shits. The whole point of EP 3 was K1 being Satoko's nii-nii was a bad thing, since it was the result of refusing to rely on his friends and developing an inflated ego. Probably why this guy dickrides EP 3 and not EP 7 where the situation is handled correctly.
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>>48566188
I guess we'll never reach the heights of Mionfags, Angefags and Beatricefags posting multiracial dicks.
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>>48566210
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>>48566188
I don't remember there being a scene between Takano and Mion?
>>48566189
And the love they have the Houjous will never be erased, naming their Daughter Satoko or Son Satoshi never forgetting the impact they had on their lives and how if it wasn't for the love they had for them they never would've been brought together in the end. I get why Ryukishi didn't go down this route like he originally planned for Tatarigorohsi but if we got this instead of the rest of like Kira it would've been amazing
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There is so little Shion Keiichi art it's insane
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>>48566209
>K1 being Satoko's nii-nii was a bad thing, since it was the result of refusing to rely on his friends and developing an inflated ego
Keiichi becomes her Nii-Nii before any abuse even happens, the Nii-Nii part is handled the exact same "correct" way in Minagoroshi-hen, but with Shion taking the role
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>>48566224
Probably because the first time we meet Shion in Wataganashi the story makes it feel like a "joke ship" in that she's just doing it to get back at Mion so everyone just ended up writing it off
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>>48566210
>implying that weren't you trying to derail the thread because you were too butthurt over people discussing umi
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>>48565910
Pachinko owns Higurashi nowadays. They were Gou/Sotsu's main sponsors.

Heck, Syndrome Mion ending up with a revolver as her weapon was taken from older pachinko machines since they already pushed that as her signature weapon in Hinamizawa Syndrome collecitons, even though it was just made up since a Syndrome Mion didn't exist at that point outside of Pachinko.
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i hate you fucking retards
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>>48566236
>pic
Lys
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>>48566209
>The whole point of EP 3 was K1 being Satoko's nii-nii was a bad thing, since it was the result of refusing to rely on his friends and developing an inflated ego.
Reminder that his friends did absolutely NOTHING in Tatarigoroshi to help out Satoko and that the only reason a tragedy was avoided was because Keiichi "vaguely" remembered that giving in to his hate and murdering Teppei wouldn't being back Satokos smile. If he didn't remember that scene he would've probably gone along with Shion and fucking murdered Teppei on the spot but he went through HELL holding back his frothing anger to make the village band together by his sheer power of WILL.

>Probably why this guy dickrides EP 3 and not EP 7 where the situation is handled correctly.
>Talking about a crucial scene where Satoko confesses her love for Keiichi is dickriding
Kill yourself, besides that Tatarigoroshi is just a masterpiece of writing, and Minagoroshi is dragged down a LOT by the shit with rika and the fragment autism.
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>>48566236
The threads are 3 seconds apart.
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>>48566231
I think it's more due to Satoshi existing, and now we have sequels where he actually returns, which kills it even more. Although it wasn't very popular Keiichi/Shion did appear in some official material in the early 10s, like some random manga and even was one of the main pairings in that romance focused Kira episode.
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>>48566235
If half life taught me anything it's that a revolver is the strongest firearm so I don't mind it
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You just know the SatoKei deniers are just seething redditors mindbroken by lolicon when they try to deny a ship after a love confession and after Rena, Mion and even her mom tease Keiichi about his relationship with Satoko.
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>>48566246
>he didn't see how one OP specifically removed Ciconia
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>>48566231
in truth I've always shipped Shion with Keiichi back when I first read it (I just didn't know that wasn't Mion LMAO) But the truth is Satoko x Keiichi and Satoshi x Shion is just simply the better ship at the moment. Which is why I like to pair them up in the worlds where Satoshi and Satoko are both DEAD and Keiichi became espeically close to Satoko. And now that Satoshi is confirmed alive but in a coma a it feels cruel to have Satoshi lose Shion to Keiichi who already has Satoko (and the other girls too I guess) But that doesn't mean I wouldn't like for there to be some high school SOL sequel where Shion slowly falls in love with Keiichi and is forced to deal with her own feelings towards Satoshi and Keiichi.
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>>48566147
>>48566171
I don't know what that scene is because I don't care to watch Gou, but that's a 3 year old post. The updated translation was in 2014. Unless you can show people pearl clutching about SatoKei back then, you've still haven't shown any reason to suspect there was a SatoKei-specific outrage causing MG to target that ship
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>>48566267
Good.
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Satoko is too busy spending time with her wife to care about any of this.
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>>48566265
>>48566269
Is the cuck gene just native to the Sonozakis?
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>>48566279
Why do you need proof? Weren't you here with us in 2014?
Yes, Tumblreddit had the same mentality they have right now. Yes there was a public outrage about the SatoKei bridge scene having nude Satoko.
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>>48566298
Again:
> That's the key point, no? I can easily find stories about the towel in gaming outlets, but nothing about SatoKei. And you explain why: Anyone reading the VN would know the truth and not give a fuck.
Looks like you've ran out of steam.
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>>48566314
>but nothing about SatoKei
Here, found it. >>48566074
No need to thank me.
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>>48566320
He's just shitposting at this point, unless this retard sees a direct statement from Mangagamer themselves he's just going to keep coping and crying. Anti-Satokeitards are really pathetic
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>>48566320
MangaGamer could see 7 years into the future and made translation decisions based off that? Wow.
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>>48566320
actual fucking retard
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>>48566320
>yellowfag can't read
At least it's accurate
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>>48566366
Takano is a nurse, she can definitely read.
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>>48566147
>>48566279
>>48566320
You're all missing the context of the scene.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Higurashinonakakoroni/comments/lvojq3/considering_satokos_mental_age_i_guess_that/

It's not saying Satoko is mentally young. It's saying Satoko is much (mentally) -older- than Keiichi there due to her centuries of loops which were already known by that point the thread was made.
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>>48566333
Why does it matter in what year the post was made lmao
2024 reddit and 2014 reddit posted the same shit.

For curiosity's sake, when did you first interact with the WTCcommunity?
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>>48566320
Satoko wanted me to tell you that you should commit suicide for being so fucking dumb.
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>>48566336
>>48566333
>>48566366
>>48566397
Ah yes, the panicking samefag.
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>>48566406
rope. now.
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>s-samefag!1!!
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>>48566413
Just buy it off Amazon, I'm not helping you ACK yourself.
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>yellowcuck got so fucking assblasted he has no more actual arguments
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>>48566424
What do Takano and Mion have to do with anything?
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>>48566336
Nah, they're just deeply insecure. The hyperfixation on Reddit screencaps gives the game away. They were made fun on Reddit years ago and it hit a nerve, so they shit up this thread to feel better about it.
>>48566395
My own history is irrelevant, I'm just text on your screen. If you can't back up your argument, then there's nothing left to say.
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>>48566457
>M-My own history is irrelevant okay!!?
So you're a newfag got it
The other Satokei anon is correct btw
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>>48566457
>Nah, they're just deeply insecure
You sound like a woman, learn to talk like a man instead of in feminine buzzwords.
>They were made fun on Reddit years ago
Sounds like projection to me, I was discussing it right here on /jp/.
>My own history is irrelevant
It is relevant, since this is what you are basing your argument on.
>The hyperfixation on Reddit screencaps
...is the proof you asked for. Reddit hates lolicon and lolicon relationships, and threw a hissy fit to remove the naked Satoko sprite for being lolicon.
After you saw the proof that reddit is indeed like that you changed your argument to "but what if reddit was different in 2014?!", to which the answer is "it wasn't".
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>>48566474
Maybe if you actually read the visual novel past episode 3 you'd understand what people were talking about.
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>>48566493
Most pathetic no u of 2024, you are the one who refused to admit when you first read Higurashi and interacted with the WTC community.
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>>48566492
>You sound like a woman, learn to talk like a man instead of in feminine buzzwords.
This is also part of the healing process from being exiled from Reddit. They intentionally say stupid things in hopes people will lose their patience and lash out. Afterwards, the SatoKei poster will declare victory. The goal isn't to have a real discussion, but to force everyone else into a historical reenactment of the debates they had on Reddit, except this time the SatoKei poster feels satisfied. Pretty ironic since these kinds of elaborate fantasies are what Umineko condemns. I wonder how WTC attracts readers who fail to learn a single lesson from them.
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>>48566513
>This is also part of the healing process from being exiled from Reddit
Noooope, wrong once again, never browsed that site.
>Pretty ironic since these kinds of elaborate fantasies are what Umineko condemns
Yep, Umineko promoted looking away from reality. Like reddit hating lolicon.

In any case, since you lost the argument anyways, would you mind telling us when you first interacted with the WTC community? You seem to be avoiding that question.
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Why are anti-satokeitards so embarrassing? No need to get so defensive over the fact Satoko canonically told Keiichi she loved him romantically!
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>>48566541
Because it's irrelevant to my argument. That is the point of being anonymous. Our posts live or die on their content. You said this early
>It is relevant, since this is what you are basing your argument on.
Which is wrong. I'm not saying "I've never seen it, so it didn't happen." I'm saying that angry Reddit posts from 2021 provide no evidence that in 2014, there was a backlash against SatoKei that was strong enough to incentivize MG to censor one, single line. You're aware you have no proof of this which is why you have to derail to the towel sprite. An image of a nude little girl isn't the same as a little girl telling her friend she loves him, since the former is legally child porn in many countries and the other isn't.
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>>48566594
>Because it's irrelevant to my argument
I'll explain how it's relevant then.
You replied to "Yes you fucking retard have you talked to ANY fan of Higurashi outside of here" with "I have". So, since the year when it happened matters to you, when was it?
>which is why you have to derail to the towel sprite
I didn't post the towel sprite at all. I posted how there was a backslash that started from Tumblr to censor lolicon from higurashi. I'll say it again for those in the back who can't hear: censored because it was lolicon. SatoKei is a lolicon relationship.
Do you understand or do you need to make an infographic for you?
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>>48566624
>You replied to "Yes you fucking retard have you talked to ANY fan of Higurashi outside of here" with "I have". So, since the year when it happened matters to you, when was it?
I've explained clearly what my argument is and you still don't get it. I can't fix your reading comprehension.
>SatoKei is a lolicon relationship.
No, it isn't, as K1 isn't an adult.
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>>48566653
>I've explained clearly what my argument is and you still don't get it. I can't fix your reading comprehension.
You are trying to weasel your way out of this huh?
>No, it isn't, as K1 isn't an adult.
Lolicon and shotacon relationships often don't involve adult characters, it's certainly not a prerequisite.
"In Japanese popular culture, lolicon (ロリコン, rorikon) is a genre of fictional media which focuses on young (or young-looking) girl characters, particularly in a sexually suggestive or erotic manner."
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>>48566662
>particularly in a sexually suggestive or erotic manner
You basically debunked your own argument. If you wanna call every relationship between minors a "lolicon relationship" then go ahead, but you yourself acknowledged that the common definition refers to smut.
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>>48566690
I posted the definition of lolicon not the definition of lolicon relationship.
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i think everyone in this thread should kill themselves
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I think everyone in this thread should shit themselves
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I think everyone in this thread should rethink their life choices
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>>48566697
Why didn't you post the definition of "lolicon relationship"? Probably because that's not a real term, as lolicon is a porn genre and only porn addicts would use porn genres to describe relationships. Do you describe your dad as being in a "MILF relationship"?
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>>48570167
>porn addicts
If there was ever any doubt you weren't a redditor here it goes.
Straight relationship. Gay relationship. It's a real term.
Do you think a picture of Gon and Killua kissing is not a shota relationship because there is not fat old man banging them?

What an hill that you choose to die on.
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>>48570292
>Do you think a picture of Gon and Killua kissing is not a shota relationship because there is not fat old man banging them?
No, because I don't use porn genres to describe relationships. That's a you problem.
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Ok retard



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