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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

Previous thread: >>48451746 →
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>>48496062 (OP)
>Shitakano
Rikaschizo's gonna freak!
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Ange doesn't shave.
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Blessing this thread
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>>48496346
And that's a good thing.
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I already miss the transttler thread...
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Is there a way to play translated higurashi without 07mod?
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>>48499024
You can just pirate the mangagamer releases. Console arcs do require 07th Mod though. You might miss out on the original music but there might be a way to do it without 07th Mod
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>>48497978
*BONK*
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>>48499187
>stuns k1
>kills mion and rika
Based
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>>48500037
>kills herself right afterwards
yeah... real based...
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>>48500048
She missed K1
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>>48500279
who she specifically 'stunned'? not killed? satoko's either dumb or not a good lover in this interpretation, i hope you understand that
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>>48500486
She saved him from getting killed at the festival though.
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>>48500499
and then purposefully chose to kill herself and leave him alive and without her for the rest of his life
once again, dumb or not a good lover
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>>48500503
She knew this K1 would be sad at Shion's death, while the new world has a happy Nii-Nii.
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>>48500530
and that's just plain fucked up
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>>48500533
Satoko thinks the worlds reset when she dies.
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Anyone have the clean version of this?
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>>48500524
Wow, one of the other 4 people who read RGD
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>>48501222
Come on brother there was at least like 35 people that read RGD after it was translated. Enough to carry some fun conversation.
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Still don't know what Ryukishi was cooking up with this one
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>>48500946
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>>48501940
Thank you!
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>>48498641
Stop fucking with miside and with mila
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>>48501222
Why the fuck was the post with Keith deleted
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Cute couple of lovers <3
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>>48503936
SatoKei saved Christmas!
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New R07 manga
First chapter is coming out on January 31st on Young Champion Web
Mangaka is Tsugi Koichi

Nametag on male character says "Maebara Kei"
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>>48505058
OHNONONO
Shipperbros... satocuck bros... Louise won
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>>48505058
The title is
"Koppa mai chiru sono koro ni"/木っ端舞い散るその頃に
"when the wood chips fall/fly down"

so, "When They Cry" adjacent title, like Hotarubi, which had "Miyoko Takano".
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>>48505058
Literally another Higurashi shitty fanfiction.
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>>48505058
>A certain sick person obsessed with true love will have a new object of interest.
Here we go again...
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>>48507237
If he was interested in true love, he would ship K1 with Mion/Rena but not his surrogate imouto
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>>48505058
ryushitty should khs already
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>>48507249
If he was interested in true love, he would ship K1 with Satoko not his best friend Mion and his friend Rena*
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>>48505058
>His Main love interest will be named Houjou Sato
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>>48507619
but satoko doesn't have pink hair
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>>48505058
>Flesh fang
Satoko expy
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>>48507478
Steam version has OG sprites, not just the pachinko ones.
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>>48507824
Actually her name take seems to start with the "Ka" kanji from Rika (花), it's for her surname though, rather than her name.

Her first name, at least on the tag, seems to be Shika (しか) or Muka (むか) in hiragana, without kanji.
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>>48505964
No one ever suggested Satoko dates Cuck.
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>>48507847
So it's just Satoko and Rika merged into a single entity named Shika? Real creative. I'd rather have something more out of the box like K1 jizzing in Chie's curry, gradually increasing the amount until she falls in love with him.
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>>48508035
so THAT'S how he got his 'faceless wife' in reiwa! chie just couldn't resist the maebara family recipe
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>>48507847
>Shikaato
Bros...
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>>48507937
>calling K1 a cuck just because he avoids used goods
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>>48508169
LEAVE MION ALONE!
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>>48508169
K1 is not a cuckold, neither Satoko, Rena, Rika, or Cuck ever cucked him.
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one can only wonder what mion did to offend him this much
clearly wasn't liking k1 because rena gets away with it and she outright said it
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>>48508228
Mion doesn't offend K1, he barely realizes she exists ti the point of being an actual plot point.
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>>48508228
>one can only wonder what mion did to offend him this much
Miotsukushi, probably. Considering how any mention of it gets him angry.
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>>48508228
>Weak wimpy loser too weak to actually fight for love to the point where she has to cry and beg Rena not to pursue Keiichi
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>>48508237
I should have known the loser getting butthurt at Miotsukishi being a laughing stock was the samefag.
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>>48508237
>>48508296
>Everyone I don't like is the same person
lol?
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>>48508307
>there's three people on this planet who think miotsukishi is not a laughing stock fanfiction and one of them is a gacha writer
Yeah.
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>>48508307
I don't know why they get so upset when you bring up the fact that Ryukishi had nothing to do with Miotsukishi I think they're just insecure
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>>48508296
>>48508323
You're the only one who gets mad at Miostukushi. Stop being facetious shipper bro.
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>>48508237
Thanks. He's gonna rant about Miotsukushi and the definition of canon for the rest of the thread.
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True love won
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>>48508334
Your mad past debunks your claim clearly.
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>>48508237
well you proved your point, i guess
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>>48508341
>>48508333
>>48508334
>>48508358
Based samechad having a melty about Miotsukishi.
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I think both sides are having a brain spasm and attacking their own people lmao
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>>48508358
Nah, he's getting mad about Miotsukishi, he really managed to shatter his own point with his own post.
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>>48508366
There's no sides. It's simply our shipper friend here is mad at the console arc because it hurts his ship, then uses "canon" as a weapon to attack it, instead of saying anything about quality or content. He will argue about the definition of canon and Ryu's involvement in the console arcs for hours upon hours, and pretend to be multiple people "laughing at the angry ones".

Ships are brain rot my friends. Take it in moderation.
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>There's no sides. It's simply our shipper friend here is mad at the console arc because it hurts his ship, then uses "canon" as a weapon to attack it, instead of saying anything about quality or content. He will argue about the definition of canon and Ryu's involvement in the console arcs for hours upon hours, and pretend to be multiple people "laughing at the angry ones".

>Ships are brain rot my friends. Take it in moderation.
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Why did Battler say that?
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>>48508519
we could use a hero right now...
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>>48508366
The only sides is the samefag Miotsukishi copesole redditor and the rest of the thread

The sametrans in question: >>48508445
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god would it kill you to type normally for once?
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>The only sides is the samefag Miotsukishi copesole redditor and the rest of the thread

>The sametrans in question: >>48508445
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>>48508698
God, would*
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>>48508755
oh man you got me guess you can act like a retard all you want now
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>>48508760
No, I'm good, I'll act like myself instead, one of you is tolerable, two is too much.
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>>48508772
well you certainly tried with that one
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>>48508743
WTF I agree with Chudtoko now
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>>48508781
I'm sorry I tried my best, it takes real retardation skills to be you, but I'm content to be a poser looking up to the ability of the master.
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>>48508786
so you admit you act like a retard?
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>>48508796
You clearly misread my message, probably because you still have trouble telling apart past simple and present simple, if you want I can hook you up to a native English tutor.
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>>48508810
took you a while to think of that one, huh
unfortunately, it's still as dumb as ever, and you look no better for posting it
consider just talking normally next time instead of acting like an idiot
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>>48508820
I'll take that as a no. In any case my offer is still up, there's plenty of English tutors out there, finding one that deals with special people shouldn't be too much trouble.
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>Miotsukshifag still having his breakdown
Let it go
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>>48508838
He was the one who brought up his lame doujinshi in the first place, by this point it's safe to say it's masochism.
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i don't know why i always expect the idiot to not act like one and actually hold a conversation instead of devolving into this idiocy every time, too much hope in me i guess
perhaps i'm just more of a retard then i like to think
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>>48508852
I*
I*
I*
guess.*
Perhaps*
I*
I*
think.*
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>>48508838
"Get away from me sluttoko, I don't want AIDS!"
"I'm saving my purity for Mion so we can have missionary handholding lovemaking for the purposes of procreation!"
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>>48508873
>"I'm saving my purity for Mion so we can have missionary handholding lovemaking for the purposes of procreation!"
What did Satoko mean by this?
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>>48508888
It's supposed to be the response of the aids hobo cameraman taking the picture reacting at Keiichi mentioning MionToko.
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>>48508873
Dumb K1, just have sex with 'toko and not with Slut.
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>>48508899
Digits don't lie.
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Irony posting is so boring.
I like genuineposters. Please return.
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>>48508992
i'm always here, just don't expect me to bring up higurashi much since that's where all the ironyposters lie
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Irony, the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
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>>48509001
I*
lie.*
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>>48509028
Nice of you to admit it.
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>>48509057
I'm truly sorry, but my conscience was eating me up. I apologize when I said I thought retardanon could learn English with the help of a tutor, I didn't mean it, I was just trying to be nice. Ahh, now I fell all better.
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Umineko stage play ep 2 part 1 in an hour at witcheffect.com/a-stream/
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Erikantrice deniers have been real quite since this dropped.
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Shkanoncels, our cope?
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>>48509819
"kyrie's group" isn't even clearly defined, kek
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hanyuu pits
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>>48511060
I'm going to fap to this
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>>48509819
Sayo can shoot Kanon in the head and still walk around. It's not a great solution, but it's genuinely what Ryukishi wanted. We just have to live with it.
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>>48511265
Did Erika cum in that scene?
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Licking Liz's cunny and showing the video to Gabriel Kaburaya
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>>48505058
ciconiasisters... I'm gonna end myself
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>>48511334
This guy who drew this swapped his studies on "human sexuality" with a book on constipation.
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>>48511334
get me the kinda torture that leaves you with your tongue hanging out and hearts in your eyes, i'm interested
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>>48509819
I don't see how this is any different from other reds saying Shkanon is dead. EP 4 is a pretty big hint at reds being taken loosely, such as the culprit inheriting Kinzo's name.
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>>48511187
good fap for the cute goddess
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>>48513379
Hanyuu baby feeders...
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>>48513506
the more you pray the bigger they get
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What's an Hanyuu baby
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>>48513552
smug hanyuu service makes me want to pray harder...
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>>48496062 (OP)
Just fapped to Satoko.
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>>48514768
We know K1.
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>>48514599
good boy
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>>48514858
cringe
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>>48514858
Based
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>>48514912
>armpit
Boner gone
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>>48514858
Indifference
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What is wrong with you people
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>>48515211
What no ciconia phase 2 does to a nigga
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>>48515211
What no ciconia phase 2 does to a white person (nothing, the novel is for niggers and brown troons)
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>>48514912
>armpit
Boner restored
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>>48513101
Shkanontricers will just arbitrarily dismiss that red truth depending on the game or the scene or who said it. This is why their theory is logically contradictory; whether or not they acknowledge a red truth, and to what degree, is always up to them. Almost anyone can be the culprit if you use their rules. They don't follow the rules of logic.
If you consider the red and take it to its logical conclusion - you come to Rosatrice. This is why Rosatrice explanation doesn't require the red only applying to certain fragments or plot points.

As Sherlock says: It's a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly, one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.
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>>48515825
This but instead of Rosatrice it's a variant Shkanontrice where they are different people with some other sort of identity entanglement. I'm still a huge fan of the current "Shannon" being someone who inherited the servant name from the servant now known as Kanon. It ties back to plot points like the Beatrice/Kinzo names being inherited, or Battler having been replaced with an impostor in the time he was gone (ie "Shannon" was the one replaced instead).
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>>48515951
There's a red that says Kanon's name can't be inherited. Even Rosatrice has to fuck with some of the reds to actually work. It's just how Umineko was written.
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>>48516041
>There's a red that says Kanon's name can't be inherited
Kanon's name never changed hands you retard just Shannon's, that's the whole fucking point holy shit
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>>48516041
it's why i always find the concept of theories being more or less fitting to red truths so hilarious, because it's downright impossible to make everything fit strictly to the surface level reading of what the red truth means while also not breaking any detective rules or disregarding the 'heart' of the story
honestly sometimes i wonder where the idea of adhering strictly to red even came from, throughout the story it's made pretty damn obvious that blindly believing in red without trying to think of the loopholes within it won't lead you to the actual truth, jessica's locked room mystery being seemingly impossible is right there in the second episode to immediately bring its validity into doubt for crying out loud
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>>48516041
I took your theory as implying that all servant names were titles to be inherited, since it's a bit strange for Shannon to be the only one. But if you can fanwank a reason why Shannon is unique then yeah that red isn't a problem.
>>48516304
I think some people use the anime to experience EP 1-4 and then read Chiru or a wiki. I know with Rosatrice it used the anime as kind of a baseline cuz Ryukishi once said it was canon.
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Hey there, any updates on why Ciconia is taking so long to continue?
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>>48516390
> I know with Rosatrice it used the anime as kind of a baseline cuz Ryukishi once said it was canon.
He said he supervised it to make sure all hints were right. But, by this point it should be clear that's bullshit.

>>48516516
He won't continue Ciconia while wars exists on Earth (or rather the Japanese news cycle).

Well, once, rather than the war bullshit, he brought up how although he loved Ciconia, he had to focus on jobs (that bring money), while Ciconia was more of a hobby. So, I guess Phase 01's low sales also play into it even if he won't admit it directly. He probably expects an Umineko situation where sales would just decrease from Phase 01 rather than growing like Higurashi's.
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>>48516549
thanks for the answer
Hmm I do understand the shift in focus because of money (one needs to eat after all) but didn't know current politics was also a factor. Well can't blame him as I'm in a similar spot.
Better hope and pray all the current shit ends fast so the world can keep spinning.
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>>48516569
He also mentioned natural disasters in that statement. I forget the details, but war and disasters make the climate too heavy for Ciconia.
He should just give the story to Yoko "9/11 inspired me to write a story from a terrorist's perspective" Taro or someone with balls.

It's such an absurd reason that I'm convinced it's just a false justification and he's really just got writer's block and didn't deal with the SotsuGou disaster well.
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>>48516390
>I took your theory as implying that all servant names were titles to be inherited, since it's a bit strange for Shannon to be the only one. But if you can fanwank a reason why Shannon is unique then yeah that red isn't a problem.
There's a few you could make-
- The name "Shannon" isn't special or anything, but Kanon specifically asked for a new servant to be brought in using the name for one of a few possible reasons.
- Normal servant names are either based on the servant's real name and can end up reused if servants with similar names are hired, or come from a preset list of reusable ones (which would explain why those seven servants' names perfectly align with the seven stakes), but "Kanon" is a name Kanon just made up for himself that couldn't have come from anywhere else. That is, "Shannon" isn't the exception in being inheritable, "Kanon" is the exception in being unique.
- The red just means Kanon's name HASN'T been inherited and thus can't be suggested to have been inherited under the rules of the game. Since this is never said over "Shannon" that simply doesn't apply.
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>>48496062 (OP)
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>>48517166
Mion can't catch a break
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Gerokasu 2 op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M43suUFlu6o [Embed]
music by xaki
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New Mei stuff:
A Rika card, but there doesn't seem to be a story for it yet.
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>>48519157
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>>48519164
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>>48519153
They announced a new Nao card for tomorrow, the Rika card story might come with that update.
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>>48496062 (OP)
Ah yes, the best girls.
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>>48512308
You have never seen a woman orgasm, they make that exact face
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>>48519153
It's a a Christmas Carol in Hinamizawa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwRyBFQIXSM [Embed]
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My angel <3 Your smile was all I needed this Christmas
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Peace
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Such a cute couple of lovers
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Of course they'd hate Umineko since it's too good for them.
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I am read Ciconia
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>>48520827
holy shit there he is, mister ciconia
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>>48516569
>Better hope and pray all the current shit ends fast
So you want be part of the REAL PROBLEM then?
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>>48516569
>(one needs to eat after all)
The first reazon of why the concept of war exists.
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>>48516569
Didn't he say he would release part 2 when Covid was over?
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>>48516516
Because Hackysi07 wants the shitty timeline even imaginable to live in real life, I guess.
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>>48516549
>He won't continue Ciconia while wars exists on Earth (or rather the Japanese news cycle).
Hope then that he kill itself. He wouldn´never find that "peace".
Not in this world. Neither of whatever other his shitty soul is going to reincarnate (If he has that "luck").
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i want the cat
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>>48521107
She's mine.
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>>48516643
>It's such an absurd reason that I'm convinced it's just a false justification and he's really just got writer's block and didn't deal with the SotsuGou disaster well.
Imagine at the end of 2024, still suprise about this.
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all of her
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>>48521007
сute
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>>48521129
>>48516643
Nah, he certainly originally expected Phase 2 at least to be out before Gou (thus the "Red Planet" reference from Eua and the Phase 02 preview he released so people could see it was indeed a Ciconia reference).

Even before any Gou backlash, he delayed Ciconia. Back then his excuse for the delay was the pandemic (and phase 1 does foresahdow the creation of magical vaccine... that turns out to have a grave side-effect, lowering people's IQ, basically turning them into zombies - so in this case at least, you could see how he might want to hesitate to release something that would end up reading as anti-vaccination propaganda). But going from pandemic to wars feels like him just finding excuses now that he has no hope Ciconia Phase 02 would sell well.
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>>48521200
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>>48521334
teacher satoko...
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>>48521353
>>48521334
>>48521200
>>48521007
Missed a spot janny
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Oh my Mrs.Maebara...
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>>48521319
>trust me bro
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why did mion wait until right before she was killed to tell shion the truth in meakashi
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>>48521319
Yes, we all know he's a complete wuss, but I've never seen anyone refer to ciconia as anti-vaccine propaganda. Are these absurd to the point of ridiculous excuses so much better than simply saying on Ciconia has been a very unprofitable project and I don't see that changing in the future. Are the few dozen units he sells a month more important to him than telling the truth and not fooling his fans? I know, I'll answer for myself because we're talking about a complete hack.
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>>48521353
Knowing that chud kid she is probably trying to get her aunt to detrans...
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>>48521487
>Yes, we all know he's a complete wuss, but I've never seen anyone refer to ciconia as anti-vaccine propaganda.
Because the plot is just foreshadowed in Phase 1, but it should have been an actual big thing in Phase 2, presumably.

I do agree that at some later point he just realized it won't do well and started making up random excuses.
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>>48521397
I think she didn't realize Shion's rampage was at least nominally all about Satoshi until that point, and just thought beforehand it was about Shion herself being angry at the Sonozaki.
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Has R07 ever commented on the similarities between Shion and Sayo? Shion feels like a prototype for Sayo.
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>>48521899
I believes she resembles Mion much more.
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>>48519157
My fucking cute Rika
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>>48521899
>>48522276
Mion totally acts just like Jessica.
Sayo I thought more of as a Miyo type as, you know, damaged.
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>>48521899
Well Shion didn't have a fucking shotgun
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>>48522562
she had the AK
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>>48515951
Rosatrice is just a fan theory but I do respect it for trying to de-troonify Umineko and not symphazing with serial killers nor making everyone evil. It works up until EP 7 where it becomes really obvious copium. I'd like to write my own EP 7-8 that promotes Rosatrice. Here's what I had in mind:

EP 7 - Similar to the canon, except its Rosa and George instead of "Yasu." Will debunks Shkanontrice, killing Lion. Everything seems happy, but it turns out Rosa was tricking Battler with yet another north wind and sun strategy and traps everyone in yet another game. Cliffhanger on a bad ending. Think of what happens in Minagoroshi.

EP 8 - In the Golden Land, everyone's souls rebel against Rosa and George, with Ange leading the charge. Rosa and George is defeated and sent to oblivion alongside Erika, creating a 1986 where everyone survives but those two. Battler gets with Shannon and adopts Maria. Battler becomes the new head, completing the foreshadowing of him being the next Kinzo which means absolutely nothing in Shkanontrice.
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>>48522932
>I do respect it for [...] not symphazing with serial killers nor making everyone evil
>proceed to make will turn around and kill lion after EP7 for no good reason in your rosatrice AU
i can't tell if you're fucking around or actually serious thanks to that
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Days without a Rosafag embarrassing himself: 0.
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>>48522969
So it's not like Will kills Lion in cold blood. What I'm envisioning is Lion dies in the process of Will exposing the truth, and Lion accepts her (I'd make her sex clear) death. She knows she only exists to hide the truth of Rosa's crimes. Will would retire at the end of EP 7, upset that he had to kill the woman he loved.
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>>48521615
>>48521487
There won't be anything about vaccines in Ciconia, they were surely made obsolete by the 8ms. However, there will definitely be a plot about conspirators releasing deadly viruses into the wild. I think that was already in phase 1.
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>>48523019
considering how many other meta characters get to still be around in this AU (including erika who's just in the void and not actually erased), i don't really understand why the ideal version of a dead baby HAS to be killed off in order to reach the truth
that's what the doll punching bag clair's there for, no?
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>>48523096
The word used wasn't vaccine, but it's a "medical 8ms" that is promised as a miracle cure, but turns out to cause an even greater problem than what it was supposedly fixing.
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>>48523101
The narrative point of Lion in Shkanontrice is to represent that Yasu didn't have to go down the path he did. In Rosatrice, where Yasu isn't the culprit, Lion's role needs to be changed. Thus, she's reframed as representing the Shkanontrice red herring masking the ugly truth of Rosatrice.
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>>48523137
Right, the medical 8ms gives everyone Hinamizawa Syndrome.
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It's almost Kurisumasu...
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which wtc girl would fuck for money?
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>>48522276
Kill yourself.
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>>48527210
make me
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>>48527148
mion!
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>>48527148
Rina and Rosa.
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>>48527457
>Rosa charging money
Does a box of wine actually count?
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>>48527376
Cute and canon!
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>>48527376
...basukechi?
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<Merry Christmas!>
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>>48529783
you're early!!!
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It's sciencemas
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IT IS THE MOST
WONDERFUL TIME
OF THE YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAR
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>>48529783
If Kanon put on a costume and acted, do you think Maria would genuinely believe he was Santa?
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>>48530185
Very kissable Shannon
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>>48530237
Based boykisser
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New Mei stuff:
Nao card:
https://files.catbox.moe/a77z7x.txt
Story for the previous Rika card:
https://files.catbox.moe/29stvb.txt
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>>48530185
I don't know if Maria would believe it, but Jessica certainly would.
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>>48530825
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>>48530826
>Dec 25, 1985, 1:30AM
>Grinch-Beatrice in a Santa suit is caught by Jessica replacing various wreathes with ones made of bones.
>Claims audaciously that he really is Santa, and he was undoing the witch's prank by putting normal wreathes back.
>Jessica goes back to bed without a word and drinks 50 gallons of brain bleach.
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>>507451820
only trapge can be kamige
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>Dec 25, 1985
>I got a NES for Christmas
>Apparently it's from the Japanese
>There was some incident there a few years back in a village out in the sticks
>Evidently it didn't affect them that much if they were able to get Mario here!
>There is one oddity though...
>The game starts with 1500 seconds in the clock, and it doesn't reset after each level.
>I wonder why...
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I'm reading the Higurashi VN after reading the manga and I caught an interesting change with Rena killing Rina. The VN doesn't have that whole "rina calls rena and rena loses it" bit. Pretty sure that was also in the anime, too.
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>>48530825
Huh. So Miyuki is changing her future plans and going to St.Lucia now.

Also, still no word on Satoko and Rika in 1993. They didn't even mention them in this story in spite of talking about Shion in St.Lucia and how the school has changed in the last 10 years since Shion's time.
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>>48531388
>can't beat Mario 1 in 25 minutes
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>>48531580
I'm busy revoking Bowsers right to live.
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>>48530185
what do you think?
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>>48530185
Santa? Only little kids believe in Santa. Honestly, how childish are you? Kihihihihi!
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>>48531647
Detrans chudcore
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>>48531753
That's clearly Santa Claus.
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Merry Christmas to the sweetest girl alive I love you Satoko!
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>>48531785
Big Brudder's Best Bud -- Satoko!
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>>48531796
if your wife isn't your best friend/bud then you messed up as a husband
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They fucked like rabbits
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>>48531801
This is funny but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense - are we really supposed to believe that Satoko never got alcohol from Rika or Teppei?
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>>48531801
I like that bra.
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>>48531837
>pre-reformed teppei
the dude's too busy drinking that shit to give her anyway
>post-reform teppei
too good of an uncle to ever give his darling niece booze
>rika
didn't want to corrupt adorable little satoko
>k1
horrible influence daring to give a girl alcohol when it's perfectly legal, will be rape corrected by drunk satoko for his transgressions
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>>48531837
>>48531837
Rika (vn) Cares about Satoko and wouldn't want her to drink like her, even Hanyuu get's on her about drinking herself she wouldn't want Satoko to go down that path she's on.

Also I heavily doubt Teppei would ever give Satoko alcohol, no alcoholic i've ever met would give that shit away when they could drink it themselves. The only way Satoko would drink would be if she stole some alcohol while Teppei was passed out which she wouldn't do
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>>48531857
Keiichi correction needed!!!
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>>48531801
I miss this artist so much it's such a shame he decided to go full Japanese autist and delete his twitter and pixiv
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>>48532006
and then he came back and posted this satoko as if nothing ever happened
i do not understand artist autism and i especially don't understand asian artist autism
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>>48532078
>He's back
BASED! I hope he at least's reposts all his old work, makes me wonder what it was that made him delete in the first place
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>>48532110
>He
The artist is a japanese woman, as for why she deleted I have my theories. Either she was harassed by some deranged Satorika yuritroons which I have seen happen MULTIPLE times to WTC artists for pairing Keiichi up with Satoko espesically on twitter, or the one I believe in the most was some sort of relationship drama with another Satokei artist leading her to delete her account. I noticed this other prominent Satokei artist not posting ever since she deleted her account. They used to follow each other and comment on their art whenever they posted so it's not impossible, Talk about a heavy fucking blow losing TWO Satokei artists at the same time... all we can do is hope and pray they come back and stay for good this time
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>>48532177
the worst mistake ryukishi ever made was appealing to yurifags
and yes, this does include making half of his female characters into fujos
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>>48530470
I'm just wanting a Merry Christmas and God Bless everyone.
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>>48496062 (OP)
I guess Shitreddit finally "accepts" (4 fucking years later) that Gou/Sotsu was a mistake. To late for them If you ask me...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Higurashinonakakoroni/comments/1hlbdus/what_the_hell_was_this_arc/
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>>48532534
that's about the usual amount of time for them to have a complete swerve in opinion, they're a very fickle lot
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>>48532534
Its reputation was always fairly negative (at least by the time people relealized Sotsu really was ending with 15 episodes), but you had some very active defenders which made it look more positive. Most of them disappeared by now though, aside from "Soul699".
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>>48532534
>>48532679
>someone actually liked the teppei redemption arc unironically and thinks satoko going batshit over reading books is in any way comparable to death note
you know, i didn't think reddit could disappoint me any more, but here we are
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>>48532697
Oh, not only that, he also thinks Wataakashi schizo Mion is very interesting and unique somehow.

I think the only aspect of Gou/Sotsu that guy ever acknowledges as bad is the goofy violence/lack of atmosphere. And when there is an aspect he disagrees with he seems to just pretend it doesn't exist like R07's statements about how Satoko is a normal girl and anyone would act the same in her situation (and the entire ending is based on this, with Satoko receiving treatment or support, just resolving her school fight with Rika) - he ignores all that and keeps saying Satoko is mentally ill (but then he says she just gets better by the ending, so the ending still works for him).
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Alright boys, spill. How many of you are on your computers on Christmas Eve, 'looking' at images of Satoko?
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>>48532772
>like R07's statements about how Satoko is a normal girl and anyone would act the same in her situation
god i still can't believe this fucker had the audacity to say rika would pull the same shit if satoshi woke up
i don't know where the ryukishi who wrote higurashi went but he sure isn't here anymore
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>>48532219
At least he made it clear where Higurashi stands in his point of view, as nothing more than something to make him money. He would make Mion cut off her tits and become a troon if he knew it would bring him in a FUCK ton of cash I will never forgive that fucking hack for what he did to Satoko
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>>48532787
What better way to spend ones holiday
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>>48532808
I seriously wonder if Ryukishi knows how hated he is by a large majority of his Higurashi fanbase? Does he even care?
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>>48532824
Very true my friend, very true.
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sacrificed another year :/
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>We could've gotten a sequal show based off Satoshi returning and the conflict that would arise from him feeling jealous of Keiichi pretty much replacing him while he was gone and Keiichi coming to resent Satoshi for taking away the attention he got from the girls and losing his role as "Nii-Nii" to Satoko with Satoko feeling conflicted over her feelings towards Keiichi now that her real Nii-Nii is back forced to come to terms with her own feelings towards Keiichi
Let me make the next anime Ryukishi
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>>48532858
We always have next year anon!
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>>48532832
He probably realizes up to a point, especially considering the Hou+ cast party. It's just funny that he seems to think they're being unfair and he's trying to be cordial and satisfy everyone when a lot of the stuff he says, like this, is just infuriating.
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I don't know about all of you but I'm spending this Christmas with this old man
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>>48532858
just remember you haven't made your yearly 'sacrifice' to BEATOORIIIIIIIICHE yet anon
you should really get on that
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>>48532905
I'm spending it with my old wine aunt
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>>48532901
i kinda wonder what a 'real fan' is to ryukishi, is it just someone who enjoys the carnage as it comes? because that seems pretty antithetical to what the goats were about in umineko
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>>48532901
>The real fans enjoyed the rampage
Holy fuck I want to bash in this fucking faggot's teeth in he doesn't feel a SHRED of guilt over the shit he did.
>IF YOU DON'T SIMP AND LOVE EVERYTHING I DO YOU'RE A FAKE FAN
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>>48532911
The golden witch magic is too powerful
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>>48532918
That's what I thought about Outbreak back in the day.
Doing like shotgun trick shots and going wa-hoo. Even if they're zombies, they're your former neighbors. It doesn't make emotional sense.
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>>48532934
the golden magic is very good at making wizards release their magic reserves, it has to be said
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>>48532918
>>48532920
Yeah his current mindset completely contradicts his beliefs while writing Umineko, loveless stories written just to slander the ushiromiyas was like one of the main issues in the final episode. I'm genuinely curious on what made him do a total 180
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>>48532918
The goats were Ryukishi crying about people actually thinking critically about his work rather than slurping up whatever shlop he dishes out for them, disguised as people not thinking about the work and thus failing to realize how totally brilliant he totally is. He was always like this.
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>>48532955
>>48532934
>>48532911
>same few pics
I'm disappointed
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>>48532955
How else do you think she became so powerful? Her golden globes has absorbed more mana than she could dream of
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>>48532995
anon i cannot recall pic number 1 being posted here before and lest you expect people to magic images into existence i don't know what you expect
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>>48532995
Forgive me anon-sama...
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>>48532918
Based on the various interviews from recent years, I guess he sees any character as being able to take any role, so the "real fans" probably would be the ones that line up with that view - being able to enjoy their character doesn't matter what kind of role they're getting.

Up to a point, I think he always kind of had this view. Don't forget one of the story ideas mentioned in Matsuribayashi's secret ending is Akasaka becoming an enemy thanks to Takano and joining her. Now, it wasn't an issue because it was just a throw away line - I think he knew he'd get backlash for this kind of stuff back then, but then grew confidence in his style later on during Umineko, in spite of his VN sales decreasing.

>>48532970
>>48532960
As far as the Goats go, note that in his Umineko era interviews about the ending, he says anyone who really thought about it should have gotten to the "correct" answer or close to it. Thus, his portrayal of the goats. If they're shouting wildly incorrect stuff, it's because they aren't even trying to engage with the story. The problem is that his reading of people in the real world was completely wrong there, thus the backlash he got back then form the Japanese fanbase.
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>>48533010
how is a man supposed to defeat such a fearsome foe? better off just topping up her supply of delicious mana and hoping that's enough for her...
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>>48533042
you know, i'm kinda curious how exactly ryukishi thinks takano could 'entice' akasaka to join her and her child murder organisation
is it sex? i bet it was sex
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>>48533043
Mere mortal men stand no chance against this wicked witch... All we can do now is just hope our mana will be enough to satisfy such a powerful foe otherwise we may not make it to the third day alive...
>>48533082
Imagine how soft they would feel to squeeze...
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Merry christmas /07/th
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that damn golden bitch... about to rob me of my mana again...!
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I think Beatrice should have sex with every anon here
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fuvkmshe did it... she'w tealing my mana again..
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>>48533193
I'm first
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>>48533102
< merry kurisumasu >
< ando have a nice presento >
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>>48532219
>>48532808
>>48532815
Ryukishi is a man not ready to admit that he's past his prime. It would be like if Rumiko Takahashi made a Ranma reboot... oh wait
Maybe no one's original - but Ryukishi is set for life as long as he keeps approving more Higurashi shit.
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'sheep' has now been sacrificed to god
the year is complete
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I still think it's crazy that Higurashi and Umeiko never got official mobile ports, considering how easy it would be to do. I guess Mei makes more in a day than either of those would make in a year if they were one time purchases, though.
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>>48533292
We're going to prepare it right, Father? I'm no stranger to the darker side of animal husbandry. I can aid in the...
>silence
...Father?
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>>48533381
the amount of times krauss must've been disappointed by his father talking some ridiculous shit that sounded actually interesting only for the real meaning to be
>HAHA! I jorked my wiener to my dead wife and/or daughter AGAIN son! What will you do this time?!?!
must've been unreal
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merry christmas, everyone
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>>48533558
Merry Christmas anon!
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>>48533250
I hope every future product he makes flops and his shitty little company goes bankrupt
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>>48533558
Merry Christmas
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>>48533102
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>>48532960
He does 180s regularly. In Matsuribayashi's epilogue he says he's against the idea of a mystery with no clear answer. Then for Umineko he has a completely opposite mentality, but at the end he just gives away the answers in the manga adaptation anyways.
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>>48533803
>He does 180s regularly. In Matsuribayashi's epilogue he says he's against the idea of a mystery with no clear answer.
Kind of. Even there he said he preferred to give no answers, but he understood people would prefer answers. Like a lot of his later works, Umineko, was he indulging in what wanted over what he knew the market wanted.
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>>48533815
He clearly favors giving answers here, says a mystery with no answers is sad and there's no joy involved if you don't have them.
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>>48533851
He spends more time explaining why he ended up going with revealing answers, but he outright says for a while he considered otherwise (but doesn't elaborate on it).
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>>48533803
I hate him
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>>48533803
The Umineko VN ending was actually the greatest pseud bait ever created. I respect his unintentional genius at baiting the absolute dumbest faggots in the universe. It's a neverending carnival watching them trip over each other defending the idea of NO ANSWER = GOOD STORY!
Like, come on. Umineko is solved in Episode 2 unless you're genuinely a fucking tard. Everything else is just Shannon's backstory. The saddest part is watching the helpless brown anger.
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I believe that Ryukishi07 will soon officially announce Ciconia will continue in 2025.
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>>48533776
I want to pet the cat!
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>>48533906
Ciconia coming to a threater near you
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>>48533042
>I guess he sees any character as being able to take any role, so the "real fans" probably would be the ones that line up with that view
I kinda get what he's saying to a point, one of the original themes of Higurashi is the cast having the capacity to do terrible/unexpected things under the right circumstances.
But if anyone can just do anything if the story needs it, what the fuck is the point of characterization? From how he's used it so far, I don't like this idea of treating them as "actors" or "dolls" to justify subsequent stories.
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>>48533903
Without love the story can't be understood or something goat
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>>48533932
god i wish i was krauss
of course if i was krauss there would be no cliffbaby since i would've fucked natsuhi so many times she'd get pregnant no matter what
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>>48533102
it's been half a decade since this hack pulled out of VNs and we are all the worse for it
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>>48533973
Gerokasu, Loopers, Loopers Plus, Gerokasu 2.

He's still releasing a bunch of VNs, just not through 07th Expansion.
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>>48533915
When they cry could be a cinematic franchise. Starting with Higurashi of course. Seriously, just adapt each of the eight chapters into movies and people will eat that shit up.
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>>48533947
The ushiromiyas would never have to worry about their bloodline dying out...
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>>48534052
the most unrealistic part of umineko is that only kyrie and rudolf had more than one child
never mind the natsuhi/krauss fertility problems, or rosa being a horny single mom, there is ZERO chance eva and hideyoshi would have only one child, loving couple that they are
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>>48534064
Ange was very clearly an accident. Her development was not normal, autism trauma or not. Kyrie was in her early 40s at best when she had her. Instant 'tism.
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Sex with enje wasn't an accident
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>>48534192
kyrie is practically full yandere for rudolf, only 2 is a surprise
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>>48534380
When I was a kid, my best friend's ~40yo parents got it on constantly. His mom was a feisty redhead, and I mean that literally. She was hot, even at her age. This is a true story for some fucking reason. The dad probably got almost no sleep when she wanted what she did. That didn't mean that impregnation at that age was a good thing. It happened anyway.
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I haven't spoken to that friend in a long time, but his youngest brother never seemed quite right. I guess my point it that you shouldn't impregnate too late. It's a recipe for tism.
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>>48533903
Going off interviews I think the idea behind the Umineko VN not having an answer was a kind of gatekeeping. eg only people who thought hard deserved the answers. Which sounds good on paper but in practice led to a lot of people unintentionally misrepresenting the work (pic related). It also limits how you can resolve a work. Imagine trying to end Higurashi without directly acknowledging the existence of Hinamizawa Syndrome. That's probably why Umi EP 8 wastes so much time on magic battles and rewinds Ange's character development. Where else can you go if you can't acknowledge Shkanontrice?
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>>48534512
>Brief summary: Hackysi07 was too lazy to say that what happened on Rokkenjima was Hinazawa syndrome/something similar.
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>>48534969
Are you a caveman from 2010 who just got unfrozen? The answer to Umineko's been out for a good long while and it's pretty detailed
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>>48534951
> dude what if I repeat the same plot points that failed in umineko and failed in ciconia but i do them again and agaiin and again
hackishi should khs
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>>48522932
>but I do respect it for trying to de-troonify Umineko and not symphazing with serial killers nor making everyone evil.
Thanks lmao. Honestly it's not even the troonery that ruins it for me, I could buy that if it was actually well-written, it's just how fucking retarded it's handled. Breaking its own rules while touting said rules as the utmost intellectualism and then using twisted logic to try and defend that as being even more intellectualism, excusing serial killers because muh feels, etc...
I've got a similar project in mind rewriting eps 7 and 8 for the non-Shkanon Shkanontrice solution I mentioned earlier, though rather than try to adapt the plots of 7 and 8 to the new story I'd personally just replace them entirely. 7 has Bern and Kanon going over Kanon's stories (ie eps 1-6, with the various shifts in writing being explained by increasing involvement by a nosy new-Shannon), discussing the solutions and whether or not Battler would be able to reach the truth, or what truth he'd reach, while 8 starts out showing Kanon's story from the start including shifting to the Kanon identity and letting the new girl become "Shannon" before turning into some metaphorical battle between Shannon and Kanon over who will get to be the culprit/Beatrice and thus "Battler's" Shannon/the one he recognizes as his old friend.
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>>48535064
Any serious attempt at rewriting a non-Shkanon Umineko would basically have to go all the way back to the question arcs since Kanon's disappearances are way too conspicuous, especially in EP 4 where the cover story is downright impossible.
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>>48535239
Not really. All you need is a solution where the illusion of Shannon and Kanon as the same person is a reasonable misdirect. Which is kind of cheap, sure, but the real solution is so tortured that it's still easy to make improvements over it.
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>>48535305
That's the thing, Kanon's disappearance is used to continue the illusion of him being a separate person. eg Kanon allegedly killing the servants in EP 2. Doing misdirects about human culprits isn't really something Beatrice does, since she does want Battler to beat her. Just seems like less of an uphill battle to make Shkanontrice less silly, but I guess the manga already does that to an extent by having Sayo take responsibility for her sins.
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>>48535019
surely this time his plan will work!



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