As another early-bird backer, I just want to make it clear that if there is not more information released very soon about the actual specifics of gameplay, including more information about the rules, I will cancel my pledge before the end of the campaign.
Andy Patschull
So, let me get this straight. We have questions and concerns about the project itself. Quality, what the board looks like, how the game will play, if the stretch goals could be adjusted, why there has been complete radio silence from you guys and the only response we get is an apology that someone mentioned CMON? In the grand scheme of things that is extremely insignificant. Your reference of CMON isn't going to stop people from backing this project. What will get people to back this project is glaringly obvious if you guys listen to what people are actually saying in these comments rather than giving half baked responses that boil down to, "We'll look into it."
My advice:
Cancel this project. It is clear no one in your company knows how to run a Kickstarter campaign. Come back when everything is actually good with the game. I know the game will play poorly because of the absolute fear of showing the rulebook. Fix it, get your "Kickstarter Project Manager" trained in running a Kickstarter, have 1 or 2 people join them so it is a small team that has an easy time communicating with everyone and themselves.
Lay down goals and ideas that could be presented to the public for actually achievable goals.
Have rewards/goals for people that can't pitch in the price for the full priced product. I'd even recommend a digital version even because things like Table Top Simulator is a thing that people use now.
With that last point, playable digital demo for people for $20 and let them increase their pledge in a pledge manager after the Kickstarter finishes.
This will let people know what all the money will go towards, this will give people what they want in regards to communication, this will allow people to feel safe in knowing their money isn't just being wasted. Nearly $400 is too much of an ask for something with this poor communication or content. If you think people will give you $400 for something that may or may not be good, then I have bad news for you. Most people don't have that much money to throw around at whatever they want at the moment.
Rimoley
A part of us will cancel, or just drop it to 100 yen, as I did, to keep track and react. Because if someone is not an early bird, there is no benefit of having 100yen or 65000 yen bid....
And if you are not able to do it in the last days for whatever reason, at least you should be ok, "investing" 100 yen
Creator also said there will be a pledge manager after too, so always the chance to go up, but not down
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全然詐欺事件の発展
Tiago Nunes // Jogamos?
Honestly this update is just so disrespectful…
Covering your tracks instead of answering your backers concerns.
Michael Ortiz
I wonder if we should do a mass tweets tagging Sega and Atlus about the treatment on this KS. We have nearly 13 days left and after that last update everything feels like a big joke.
Maybe tweet something that Ian Mac Coll said. It hits all our points
But if you keep going on this path, the amount of backers will come crashing down around December 11th. Just know that every single one of us can drop this at any time.
杜敏求
I lost my patience there is literally no
杜敏求
A single real update
Drew
My mind is still boggled by this "controversy" about mentioning CMON. Didn't they just reference CMON for the quality level they're shooting at?
I mean, CMON didn't try to avoid talking about other companies in this exact way. In the comments for Sedition Wars, they talked about how the material would be the same material used by Privateer Press.
Loads of Kickstarters use other company's miniatures placed side by side with their own in order to show us size comparisons and the like, or maybe mentioned another company to talk about scale or material. This hasn't ever caused confusion before.
I just plain do not get why this is an issue for this project, and why communication needs to be stalled because of it.
Ian MacColl
Given the update it seems like they're taking the CMON thing very seriously. Even though none of us care about that.
Whereas our actual issues, lack of rules/gameplay, unobtainable stretchgoals, high price point, readability of cards, lack of communication and proper answers, how can we trust them to hire someone to translate the cards, etc. They seem not too concerned with.
Mark CashmanSuperbacker
Agreed. I'll give it a few days and i'll list all the outstanding issues that I can see still for this campaign. Not that it makes any difference really. They have over 500k and will be quite happy to walk away with that amount of funding. I just hope we are all wrong and they deliver a cracking game......
Dane Tripp-Peters
ICREA,
We want a rulebook or a video of gameplay.
We want stretch goals reconsidered.
We want concerns about the GAME addressed. We don't care that CMON was mentioned. We just want to see the board game in action or a rulebook.
I don't know how else to ask thus. That is what most people here want.
HamsterBomb
ICREA...
I was hoping to read a real update and instead read the most absurd straw man apology I've ever seen. I assure you, nobody was genuinely worried about CMON being referenced. Just read the hundreds of concerned comments as to why you're not gaining backers. Take some responsibility here. If you intend on making a well designed, fun and honest board game then cancel this Kickstarter and do more research and planning before trying again in several months at the earliest, with the intention to actually address the overwhelming concerns listed below. If all you want is money then do the same. Running this campaign to the ground is a lose lose scenario for everyone. Expect to see my early backer pledge disappear before the final days if this continues to go ignored. I wonder how Atlus feels about this unfolding disaster.
Nickollas Nunes
Number of backer is declining. Somebody with an Xwitter account should tag Atlus and SEGA and ask how do they feel about this
catofulthar
Honestly, I doubt icrea has no one can understand English enough to use Kickstarter, a service from USA, or they just plays fool to swindle huge money for small company… 100 million yen without work, and some small apologies, is attractive so much.
The seem more concerned with their link to CMON and the backlash from that than to answer all the other questions of the backers. The link to the same factory used by cmon wasn't even one of the concerns........days are passing quickly.....however, they are getting more backers slowly (somehow)
Michael Ortiz
Just as backers go up they still go back down.
This campaign is ridiculous. 2 people mention Cmon and that's the APOLOGY update.
This site tracks campaigns daily funding, backers, and comments. Yesterday they only gained 1, 0 the day before, and 1 the day before that.
They seem to think we're more concerned that they mentioned CMON instead of everything else, and now they'll be interacting even less with us as a result. Their priorities are way off.
Ian MacColl
So because someone mentioned CMON communications will be delayed now. So they weren't before, seriously? And you said you aim to provide accurate and trustworthy responses. Most of them were blanket statements saying you'll look into it and get back to us. Are you stalling for time hoping we'd all keep our pledges or what. Are you still considering releasing a rulebook. What about stretchgoals and how they're unlocked, you said you'd be looking into that but we've not heard anything still, and now communications is going to be even more limited than before.
Michael Ortiz
I know. This feels like a joke.
Michael Ortiz
We waited for all these answers and because 2 people mentioned Cmon we got an Update 3 that was an apology... wth
Nickollas Nunes
So, let me understand this... We have been complaining about lack of communication, about the fact that to this day we don't have a rule book or a game play, and after a day of radio silence you come back and your priority is "we are sorry that we mentioned CMON"? And your measure is TO MAKE COMMUNICATIONS SLOWER?!?!? This more and more feels like it not only isn't targeted towards the international market, but you don't care about your customers even in the japanese market. You want to walk away with our money and deliver (if you deliver) a subpar product.
Again, DO NOT TRUST the Early Birds backers. If this doesn't change drastically I will cancel my pledge December 11th, and I'm sure plenty of people will do the same. You are charging an obscene amount of money for this project and this isn't the right way to treat your customers.
For Japanese backers considering the same: Remember that you cannot cancel your pledge 24h before the deadline, so do it at most December 11th to guarantee that you don't fund this.
Hi Nickollas, Thank you for your kindness. Your JP comments help us so much.
As almost JP fans are so, I’m new to kickstarter project and confusing one thing. I thought backers can cancel pledge 24h before, but if that makes project away from goal of funding, we can’t.
This project set December 14th 0900 UTC as deadline. Even if we have to convert UTC and JST, there are still 1 or 2 days.
Is there something wrong in my understanding?
Nickollas Nunes
Hey Cathofulthar,
No, you are absolutely correct, the issue came from the fact of the conversion. To me, the project deadline is Fri, December 13 2024 4:00 PM CET. So, in my case, I have to cancel at most Thursday December 12 4:00PM. This is a work-day, so in order to keep it safe I recommended (and I myself will likely do this) that the orders are cancelled by December 11th.
I've been asking about the stretch goal issue to be fixed since day 3. The answer was We'll look in to it. At least asked to please Stretch goals to funding and add achievements to generate attention.
To be honest it looks like they wanted to secure 1000 units sold and lay low the rest the project.
As a non-Japanese fan of the Shin Megami Tensei franchise, I hope you understand that I write these words with the best of intentions. Please reconsider this Kickstarter campaign. Like myself, you have plenty of fans that were really excited about this game. However so far everything about this campaign has been handled very poorly. I will demonstrate some examples:
- I was an Early Bird, got into the project in the first few minutes. After your first 3-day radio silence I cancelled my pledge. I kept checking to see if things would get better, and all of a sudden I saw ANOTHER Early Bird spot appear, and I took it. Even people with the Early Birds are cancelling, and honestly, I will be holding on to mine for now, but by the way things look I will probably cancel it before the deadline.
- The stretch goals are unreasonable. Right now you are still gaining backers at a very slow rate, but the backers that are bleeding out should be considered. And then we have the actual prizes, 2000 backers for a dice? 3000 for holo cards? Those are two things that I can guarantee I didn't ask for.
- The timeline is also weird. While this account that I'm using is new, I have backed Frosthaven before. FH was a much more experienced board game company and they didn't promise to prepare and deliver everything in a few months. This timeline seem very unrealistic
- Your communication still bad, you go days without updating or answering people. If you're changing things internally to accommodate the KS, you should do it faster.
- Gameplay. This is the biggest issue. You have the rulebook done, right? Just ready to print, after all you've worked on it for the past 2 years... Upload it. That simple. You may be thinking about making a video, about showing things, but this should've been done BEFORE the Kickstarter was launched, not after. Right now the impression that I'm getting is that either the board game is bad/boring and you're stalling to walk away with our money and deliver a bad product, or you don't have the rules ready to go, and I don't need to mention what a big problem this would be. If neither of those things are true, then the only way to solve this is by uploading the rulebook.
Don't be too confident on the current backer numbers, there are people like me that might wait until last minute to cancel if things don't turn 180º. And if you're not planning on turning things 180º, but want to deliver a good product, I suggest you cancel the current Kickstarter and come back later after you have learned how to launch a Kickstarter campaign.
If all you want is to take some easy money from folks then keep going, maybe by the end you'll scrape just enough to fund the game.
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Rimoley
+1
HamsterBomb
Nickollas speaks for us all here. We implore you to rethink this entire campaign and start over prepared.
Mark CashmanSuperbacker
+1. Still radio silence to a lot of the issues (except for lots of.copy and paste responses)
Chang Yi kang
I thought I will pay shipping fee during pledge manager. But instead, system charged me ¥5,000 for shipping. Is that correct?
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言いたいことは沢山ありますが、一言だけ言わせて貰いますと
真・女神転生というブランド。
高額にも関わらず初日に達成するほどの力があるのに
今の状態なのは本当に残念でしかない
もう支援期間の半分過ぎましたよ
Very true, this KS could have soared since day one with its momentum and now its stagnant.
前回のアップデートの時にはお問い合わせでお送りしましたが、
再度似た内容でここに投稿させていただきます。
アップデートのお知らせは皆期待して確認に来ます。
アップデートに胸を躍らせてアクセスしてきた支援者が見るのが、アップデートとは程遠い情報の発信では、落胆させるだけです。
次回のアップデートでは、ルール掲載など期待しますとご連絡を差し上げました。
次回以降、アップデートのお知らせが配信されるときは、アップデートした時である事を切に願います。
こうした声明に関しては、自社ホームページや、Xのアカウントで発信等使い分けていただきたいと願います。
この場は、商品に対して支援するに値するか判断をする場なので、製品のプレゼンテーションをしてください。
制作側にある製品のビジョンをもっと知りたいのです。
私は、その情報を心待ちにしています。
次回のアップデートの際は、製品についてのお知らせが載ることを期待しています。
As another early-bird backer, I just want to make it clear that if there is not more information released very soon about the actual specifics of gameplay, including more information about the rules, I will cancel my pledge before the end of the campaign.
So, let me get this straight. We have questions and concerns about the project itself. Quality, what the board looks like, how the game will play, if the stretch goals could be adjusted, why there has been complete radio silence from you guys and the only response we get is an apology that someone mentioned CMON? In the grand scheme of things that is extremely insignificant. Your reference of CMON isn't going to stop people from backing this project. What will get people to back this project is glaringly obvious if you guys listen to what people are actually saying in these comments rather than giving half baked responses that boil down to, "We'll look into it."
My advice:
Cancel this project. It is clear no one in your company knows how to run a Kickstarter campaign. Come back when everything is actually good with the game. I know the game will play poorly because of the absolute fear of showing the rulebook. Fix it, get your "Kickstarter Project Manager" trained in running a Kickstarter, have 1 or 2 people join them so it is a small team that has an easy time communicating with everyone and themselves.
Lay down goals and ideas that could be presented to the public for actually achievable goals.
Have rewards/goals for people that can't pitch in the price for the full priced product. I'd even recommend a digital version even because things like Table Top Simulator is a thing that people use now.
With that last point, playable digital demo for people for $20 and let them increase their pledge in a pledge manager after the Kickstarter finishes.
This will let people know what all the money will go towards, this will give people what they want in regards to communication, this will allow people to feel safe in knowing their money isn't just being wasted. Nearly $400 is too much of an ask for something with this poor communication or content. If you think people will give you $400 for something that may or may not be good, then I have bad news for you. Most people don't have that much money to throw around at whatever they want at the moment.
A part of us will cancel, or just drop it to 100 yen, as I did, to keep track and react. Because if someone is not an early bird, there is no benefit of having 100yen or 65000 yen bid....
And if you are not able to do it in the last days for whatever reason, at least you should be ok, "investing" 100 yen
Creator also said there will be a pledge manager after too, so always the chance to go up, but not down
全然詐欺事件の発展
Honestly this update is just so disrespectful…
Covering your tracks instead of answering your backers concerns.
I wonder if we should do a mass tweets tagging Sega and Atlus about the treatment on this KS. We have nearly 13 days left and after that last update everything feels like a big joke.
Maybe tweet something that Ian Mac Coll said. It hits all our points
アップデートが来たと思ったら誤解を招いたことへの謝罪文だけとは…
多くの支援者が求めているアップデートの内容はこのボードゲームのルールや開発の具体的な進捗のはずです。
このプロジェクトに期待しているのですが、このような状況が続くなら信用できないのでキャンセルも検討しないといけないですね
I still have the faintest hope in this campaign.
But if you keep going on this path, the amount of backers will come crashing down around December 11th. Just know that every single one of us can drop this at any time.
I lost my patience there is literally no
A single real update
My mind is still boggled by this "controversy" about mentioning CMON. Didn't they just reference CMON for the quality level they're shooting at?
I mean, CMON didn't try to avoid talking about other companies in this exact way. In the comments for Sedition Wars, they talked about how the material would be the same material used by Privateer Press.
Loads of Kickstarters use other company's miniatures placed side by side with their own in order to show us size comparisons and the like, or maybe mentioned another company to talk about scale or material. This hasn't ever caused confusion before.
I just plain do not get why this is an issue for this project, and why communication needs to be stalled because of it.
Given the update it seems like they're taking the CMON thing very seriously. Even though none of us care about that.
Whereas our actual issues, lack of rules/gameplay, unobtainable stretchgoals, high price point, readability of cards, lack of communication and proper answers, how can we trust them to hire someone to translate the cards, etc. They seem not too concerned with.
Agreed. I'll give it a few days and i'll list all the outstanding issues that I can see still for this campaign. Not that it makes any difference really. They have over 500k and will be quite happy to walk away with that amount of funding. I just hope we are all wrong and they deliver a cracking game......
ICREA,
We want a rulebook or a video of gameplay.
We want stretch goals reconsidered.
We want concerns about the GAME addressed. We don't care that CMON was mentioned. We just want to see the board game in action or a rulebook.
I don't know how else to ask thus. That is what most people here want.
ICREA...
I was hoping to read a real update and instead read the most absurd straw man apology I've ever seen. I assure you, nobody was genuinely worried about CMON being referenced. Just read the hundreds of concerned comments as to why you're not gaining backers. Take some responsibility here. If you intend on making a well designed, fun and honest board game then cancel this Kickstarter and do more research and planning before trying again in several months at the earliest, with the intention to actually address the overwhelming concerns listed below. If all you want is money then do the same. Running this campaign to the ground is a lose lose scenario for everyone. Expect to see my early backer pledge disappear before the final days if this continues to go ignored. I wonder how Atlus feels about this unfolding disaster.
Number of backer is declining. Somebody with an Xwitter account should tag Atlus and SEGA and ask how do they feel about this
Honestly, I doubt icrea has no one can understand English enough to use Kickstarter, a service from USA, or they just plays fool to swindle huge money for small company… 100 million yen without work, and some small apologies, is attractive so much.
正直に言いますが、単純にイクリエという企業がキックスターターを扱えるだけの英語力を備えていないのか、備えていないふりをして大半のコメントを無視しているだけなのか、どっちがマシなのか考える段階に来ているのではと思っています。
アップデートが入ったと思ったら他社の名前を出したことへの謝罪とは…。
ユーザーが知りたいのはルール公開やストレッチゴールの見直しであって、プロジェクトに関係のない他社への謝罪ではないです。
コメントへの返信で『検討中』としている以上は何かしらの調整を進めているのでしょうが、残り期間が迫る中で優先順位を間違えないで欲しいです。
私は今のところキャンセルするつもりはありませんが、現状に不満をもつユーザーが大量キャンセルをした場合、目標金額未達ということすら起こりえるわけで…。
ここのコメントで言われている問題は色々ありますが、根本的な原因は一括して『ユーザーの目線に立っていない』ということだと思うので改善して頂ければと思います。
The seem more concerned with their link to CMON and the backlash from that than to answer all the other questions of the backers. The link to the same factory used by cmon wasn't even one of the concerns........days are passing quickly.....however, they are getting more backers slowly (somehow)
Just as backers go up they still go back down.
This campaign is ridiculous. 2 people mention Cmon and that's the APOLOGY update.
https://kicktraq.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game/#chart-daily
This site tracks campaigns daily funding, backers, and comments. Yesterday they only gained 1, 0 the day before, and 1 the day before that.
They seem to think we're more concerned that they mentioned CMON instead of everything else, and now they'll be interacting even less with us as a result. Their priorities are way off.
So because someone mentioned CMON communications will be delayed now. So they weren't before, seriously? And you said you aim to provide accurate and trustworthy responses. Most of them were blanket statements saying you'll look into it and get back to us. Are you stalling for time hoping we'd all keep our pledges or what. Are you still considering releasing a rulebook. What about stretchgoals and how they're unlocked, you said you'd be looking into that but we've not heard anything still, and now communications is going to be even more limited than before.
I know. This feels like a joke.
We waited for all these answers and because 2 people mentioned Cmon we got an Update 3 that was an apology... wth
So, let me understand this... We have been complaining about lack of communication, about the fact that to this day we don't have a rule book or a game play, and after a day of radio silence you come back and your priority is "we are sorry that we mentioned CMON"? And your measure is TO MAKE COMMUNICATIONS SLOWER?!?!? This more and more feels like it not only isn't targeted towards the international market, but you don't care about your customers even in the japanese market. You want to walk away with our money and deliver (if you deliver) a subpar product.
Again, DO NOT TRUST the Early Birds backers. If this doesn't change drastically I will cancel my pledge December 11th, and I'm sure plenty of people will do the same. You are charging an obscene amount of money for this project and this isn't the right way to treat your customers.
For Japanese backers considering the same: Remember that you cannot cancel your pledge 24h before the deadline, so do it at most December 11th to guarantee that you don't fund this.
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では、これを理解させてください... 私たちは、今日までコミュニケーション不足、ルールブックやゲームプレイがないという事実について不満を言ってきました。そして、1 日沈黙した後、あなたたちは戻ってきて、優先事項は「CMON について言及して申し訳ありません」ですか? そして、あなたたちの解決策はコミュニケーションを遅くすることですか?!?!? これを見ると、あなたたちは国際市場をターゲットにしていないだけでなく、日本市場の顧客のことを気にもかけていないようにますます感じます。あなたたちは私たちのお金を取って立ち去り、標準以下の製品を提供したいのです (そもそも提供している場合)。
もう一度言いますが、早期支援者を信用しないでください。これが劇的に変わらない場合は、12 月 11 日に支援を取り消します。私たちの多くも同じことをするでしょう。あなたたちはこのプロジェクトに法外な金額を請求していますが、これは顧客を扱う正しい方法ではありません。
同じことを検討している日本の支援者へ: 締め切りの 24 時間前には支援を取り消すことはできませんのでご注意ください。したがって、このプロジェクトに資金を提供しないことを保証するには、12 月 11 日までにキャンセルしてください。
Hi Nickollas, Thank you for your kindness. Your JP comments help us so much.
As almost JP fans are so, I’m new to kickstarter project and confusing one thing. I thought backers can cancel pledge 24h before, but if that makes project away from goal of funding, we can’t.
This project set December 14th 0900 UTC as deadline. Even if we have to convert UTC and JST, there are still 1 or 2 days.
Is there something wrong in my understanding?
Hey Cathofulthar,
No, you are absolutely correct, the issue came from the fact of the conversion. To me, the project deadline is Fri, December 13 2024 4:00 PM CET. So, in my case, I have to cancel at most Thursday December 12 4:00PM. This is a work-day, so in order to keep it safe I recommended (and I myself will likely do this) that the orders are cancelled by December 11th.
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Cathofulthar さん、
いいえ、おっしゃる通りです。問題は時間変換によるものです。私の場合、Kickstarter ページに表示されているプロジェクトの締め切りは、2024 年 12 月 13 日金曜日午後 4:00 (中央ヨーロッパ時間) です。したがって、私の場合は、12 月 12 日木曜日午後 4:00 までにキャンセルする必要があります。これは平日なので、安全のために 12 月 11 日までに注文をキャンセルすることをお勧めします (おそらくそうするでしょう)。
メガテンのボードゲームとかこの先発売することないだろうし頑張ってもらいたいです。
色々言われてますが応援してますので頑張ってください！
最初に支援する時、ストレッチゴールが金額によって解放では無く個数によっての解放に違和感を感じていました。
ダイスにジャックフロストを刻印するのにこれだけコストがかかるのか？
素人なので間違えはあるかもしれませんが、3000万円で商品が開発出来るとしてファンディングゴールを設定していると思うのですが、その3000万円の内訳で化粧箱が何円、ルールプックが何円、カードが何円、ダイスに何円、フィギュアに何円、人件費、版権使用料等もろもろと見積もりをとったと思うのです。
その中でダイスにかかるコストとジャックフロスト刻印を追加した場合のコストを比較して一億円近く必要なのでしょうか？
第二ストレッチゴールのカードをホログラムに変更するのにも二億円近くかかるものなのでしょうか？
そもそもボードゲームの制作先もまだ決まっていない、フィギュアの制作先もまだ決まっていないのにどういう見積もりでこのファンデングゴールを設定したのでしょう？
素朴な疑問です。
I've been asking about the stretch goal issue to be fixed since day 3. The answer was We'll look in to it. At least asked to please Stretch goals to funding and add achievements to generate attention.
To be honest it looks like they wanted to secure 1000 units sold and lay low the rest the project.
これまでのクリエイターの対応を見ていると、そういう感じに受け取れますよね、、。
刻々と時間は過ぎていますが、クリエイターはのんびりしていますね、、、。
バッカーの人達に質問ですが 私はKickstarter初心者です
今回のプロジェクトでは最初の1000人の内の1人ですが 今まで色々なコメントを静観しながら見てきましたが この状況はKickstarterでは普通なのでしょうか？
私は日本人ですが日本の感覚からしても誠意ある対応すると言いながら何もしない運営に感じこの会社が今後誠意ある対応を見せても見せかけの演技で実際には粗悪な物が届いたり嫌な想いをしそうだと感じます
これがKickstarterでは良くある事で改善（ルールブック提示など）する事でKickstarterを継続出来る事なのか異常事態だけど皆んながまだバッカーを辞めていないから辞めていないのか気になりました
私は今の所最後には辞めますがこのようにいつか投稿する為に残っていましたが 投稿がネガティブな事になったのは残念です とても期待していたし楽しみだったので
最後に皆んなでこのバッカーを辞めてこのプロジェクトが一度駄目になり運営が体制を改善してからKickstarterを再び迎える事を望みます
やはりそうなんですね
お二人とも解答ありがとうございます
日本人としてボードゲーマーとして女神転生好きとしてとても残念です
同じく日本人のキックスターター初心者です。
増子さんの女神転生リアレンジCDが初めてでこれが二回目ですが、明らかに様子がおかしいと思います。
増子さんの場合は個人でしたが、それでもTwitterとプロジェクトページを合わせて頻繁にアナウンスやアップデートがあり、終了後は内訳の公開もされました。
イクリエという会社名義でプロジェクトを立てておきながら個人ができていたことができないのは明らかに危険信号かなと。
実際問題、イクリエ自体がゲームを作る技能のない小規模な会社な上、自称ソムリエであってデザイナーでない、代表作がボドゲカフェに持ち込み禁止な人がメインスタッフなのも大概ですが……
バッカーだけがコメント可能でキャンセルすると削除されるようなのでギリギリまでキャンセルしない予定です。
一回キャンセルした上で、真っ当な別の会社とスタッフでやり直されることを望んでやみません。
他のボードゲームプロジェクトを見てみると情報量の差にびっくりしますよ。
コメント欄で公式が答えた内容は、流石にFAQへの反映して欲しいな。
Dear ICREA.
As a non-Japanese fan of the Shin Megami Tensei franchise, I hope you understand that I write these words with the best of intentions. Please reconsider this Kickstarter campaign. Like myself, you have plenty of fans that were really excited about this game. However so far everything about this campaign has been handled very poorly. I will demonstrate some examples:
- I was an Early Bird, got into the project in the first few minutes. After your first 3-day radio silence I cancelled my pledge. I kept checking to see if things would get better, and all of a sudden I saw ANOTHER Early Bird spot appear, and I took it. Even people with the Early Birds are cancelling, and honestly, I will be holding on to mine for now, but by the way things look I will probably cancel it before the deadline.
- The stretch goals are unreasonable. Right now you are still gaining backers at a very slow rate, but the backers that are bleeding out should be considered. And then we have the actual prizes, 2000 backers for a dice? 3000 for holo cards? Those are two things that I can guarantee I didn't ask for.
- The timeline is also weird. While this account that I'm using is new, I have backed Frosthaven before. FH was a much more experienced board game company and they didn't promise to prepare and deliver everything in a few months. This timeline seem very unrealistic
- Your communication still bad, you go days without updating or answering people. If you're changing things internally to accommodate the KS, you should do it faster.
- Gameplay. This is the biggest issue. You have the rulebook done, right? Just ready to print, after all you've worked on it for the past 2 years... Upload it. That simple. You may be thinking about making a video, about showing things, but this should've been done BEFORE the Kickstarter was launched, not after. Right now the impression that I'm getting is that either the board game is bad/boring and you're stalling to walk away with our money and deliver a bad product, or you don't have the rules ready to go, and I don't need to mention what a big problem this would be. If neither of those things are true, then the only way to solve this is by uploading the rulebook.
Don't be too confident on the current backer numbers, there are people like me that might wait until last minute to cancel if things don't turn 180º. And if you're not planning on turning things 180º, but want to deliver a good product, I suggest you cancel the current Kickstarter and come back later after you have learned how to launch a Kickstarter campaign.
If all you want is to take some easy money from folks then keep going, maybe by the end you'll scrape just enough to fund the game.
+1
Nickollas speaks for us all here. We implore you to rethink this entire campaign and start over prepared.
+1. Still radio silence to a lot of the issues (except for lots of.copy and paste responses)
I thought I will pay shipping fee during pledge manager. But instead, system charged me ¥5,000 for shipping. Is that correct?
Not based off what they said in the front page.