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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed by Fortuna View Post
    I had a line of Indrajit as Grand Assassin (my idea being that simply being a killer or strong isn't enough one needs a special kind of connection with death) using the idea of him having access to the powers of the Trimūrti (albeit I had to bang my head against the wall to find accurate information on if he did have all 3 Astras of the Trimūrti, consider scrapping the sheet when I found that there was no definitive proof he had the ultimate Astras of either Shiva or Vishnu, then explain why he had Shiva's astra (easy) and how he had Vishnu's (harder but I managed) get a little creative with it, but I managed) and heightened perspective associated with being a demon (a higher class of being that the of a human) to understand the nature of the Trimūrti as the 3 aspects created by Brahman the ultimate truth of the universe and basically the force which fuels all gods [and within my head canon is a pathway to the root in it's own right]. One connected to Brahman who understands Brahman basically gains the power of Brahman, essentially making them a god in that respect, in my head canon this is how Buddha escaped the cycle of reincarnation.

    While Lore-wise I'm going with the idea that Indrajit never used Trimūrti-astra (the name he gave to the hypothetical technique of using the power of Brahman by combining the 3 ultimate Astras together as an offensive weapon) partly because he felt it morally wrong to use it as a weapon, partly because he feared reprisal for doing such from the Trimūrti and partly because it sacred him (to give an idea of what this could do, hypothetically take Hanuman the strongest warrior in the war between Rama and Ravana, if this were used on him, 1 hit would be enough that it would cause his soul to basically try to escape this mortal coil and then transcend the physical universe, forcefully pulling him from the cycle of reincarnation by bestowing upon him the ultimate truth [Hanuman could try to resist this, but it would basically take all his might to do so, to the degree that basically a single good hit after that would distinct him and then cause his soul to escape his metaphorical grasp]) just how strong it was. As a grand I imagine similar to how King Hassan bestowed the concept of death on Tiamat it could "place or removing things from cycle of reincarnation" thus allowing beings like Tiamat to be killed, and things which should be invisible to be destroyed (or even straight up removing things from existence)


    I'm not sure who exactly mentioned it but back when I was doing my lostbelt I did mention the possibility of Cain as a Grand Berserker* or Grand Assassin** (and even had him appear in early drafts [the version of him I had probably was wank enough to count as a grand servant]). As for Wendigo I'm not sure it will work either, but I suppose I just will have to try or keep looking. I do want to eventually try to and get some degree of coverage for the entire globe [save Antartica for obvious reasons] at least as a proof of concept that Grands don't have to be restricted to just Europe or Asia (I was also throwing around the idea of Walumbe / Warlumbe (if he would even count) as an African Grand servant (not from Egypt) as Grand Assassin (he was cited to be the cause for all disease and death in Gandan myth [I just may want to wait on this one as the subject of disease isn't a topic I'm comfortable doing a sheet based around at this point]).

    * While never explicitly going insane the sheer pointlessness of his murder and the way he is viewed in modern culture could certainly lean in this direction

    ** Yet again while certainly not stealthy Cain's actions constitute the 1st instance of someone having ever died in the Aberhamic myths (before even Adam or Eve died) and as a result basically unleashed death onto the world, this combined with the fame of the act would make him probably debate as fitting the role in this point of view.

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    As for what I quantify as Grand Berserker, my current definition is that being insane or having gone insane isn't enough (aside from the given that you have to be powerful), rather similar to Grand Saber, you have to basically either exist in a state of perpetual insanity (Sisyphus) or be basically what amounts to the embodiment of the concept of insanity (Jack the Ripper [from Strange Fake]).
    About Grand Berserker have we atleast the Quote of Daybits servant and i am honest my Grand Assassin candidate is Fuma Kotaro the first one .
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    Dunno if anyone cares, but I've updated my Upcoming Servant Sheets blog.
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    Also, I am still having no luck coming up with ideas for the Summer Singularity and Servants. Hehe, please help...
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    Ah yes, speaking of summer, I also have a bunch of vague summer Servant ideas (from my own previous sheets) floating around, but I lack a story to really tie them together. If anyone wants to collab on a comedic summer event, featuring your own Servants as well, feel free to let me know.

    Some of the vague ideas I have right now include:
    - A beach party/concert, possibly a boyband version of the recent FGO Waltz. Featuring summer Hyacinthus as the band leader, and summer Samyaza as an annoying foreign tourist who got a little too swept up on the festivities and drunkenly signed up on the boyband contest, only to find out he's not actually half-bad at rocking out.

    - A parody of yakuza crime dramas starring summer Jirocho Shimizu, who wants to maintain his "casual suburban dad" lifestyle, only to be dragged into various absurd misadventures against his will. If the Assassin-class Jirocho is main story Kiryu from the Yakuza series, Summer Jirocho is basically sidequest Kiryu. A three-way war between the Shimizu family, some sort of international crime ring, and a sukeban gang led by summer Khutulun.

    - A mix between the two, and a partial ripoff of FGO's Summer 3. A singularity set in San Francisco during 1967's Summer of Love. Main antagonist is Samyaza, who wants to create an "eternal beach party", cuz' nothing represents "freedom" more than hippies, free love, and fun under the sun. Might even sneak a John Lennon cameo there. On Chaldea's side we have Jirocho taking the role of "head lifeguard" and his apprentice, Khutulun. Hyacinthus might still make an appearance as the leader of a local hippie band or something.

    I only have vague overviews of these stories though, so any help with fleshing out the stories and adding more stuff to them would be much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BnEl15 View Post
    Ah yes, speaking of summer, I also have a bunch of vague summer Servant ideas (from my own previous sheets) floating around, but I lack a story to really tie them together. If anyone wants to collab on a comedic summer event, featuring your own Servants as well, feel free to let me know.

    Some of the vague ideas I have right now include:
    - A beach party/concert, possibly a boyband version of the recent FGO Waltz. Featuring summer Hyacinthus as the band leader, and summer Samyaza as an annoying foreign tourist who got a little too swept up on the festivities and drunkenly signed up on the boyband contest, only to find out he's not actually half-bad at rocking out.

    - A parody of yakuza crime dramas starring summer Jirocho Shimizu, who wants to maintain his "casual suburban dad" lifestyle, only to be dragged into various absurd misadventures against his will. If the Assassin-class Jirocho is main story Kiryu from the Yakuza series, Summer Jirocho is basically sidequest Kiryu. A three-way war between the Shimizu family, some sort of international crime ring, and a sukeban gang led by summer Khutulun.

    - A mix between the two, and a partial ripoff of FGO's Summer 3. A singularity set in San Francisco during 1967's Summer of Love. Main antagonist is Samyaza, who wants to create an "eternal beach party", cuz' nothing represents "freedom" more than hippies, free love, and fun under the sun. Might even sneak a John Lennon cameo there. On Chaldea's side we have Jirocho taking the role of "head lifeguard" and his apprentice, Khutulun. Hyacinthus might still make an appearance as the leader of a local hippie band or something.

    I only have vague overviews of these stories though, so any help with fleshing out the stories and adding more stuff to them would be much appreciated.
    These are pretty unique. The canon Summer events never have male Servants in the starring role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed by Fortuna View Post
    So after research while I still am going to have to do more research for North America, but I have found a grand candidate for Central and South America (if a little unorthodox), Santa Muerte. Still leaves me with 2 more to find, but it's a good start at least.
    Santa Muerte is really interesting, I treat her as the Divine Spirit degradation of Miclanthecuhtli's wife, they formed the Underworld Deity pair of the Aztec and it is believed too that her origin is exactly like that. If that is too Divine-Spirit-y for you, perhaps go into the direction of La Llorona and other spirits like that. The Mesoamerican and Southamerican Sphere has an interesting way of syncretizing Christianity and old folklore/mythology.
    On that node, who was the first mythological killer of children? Overall those folks who were the first to kill family besides the Cain/Abel story may qualify and every sphere should have something along those lines, right?


    and damn BnEl15 with the cool Summer Ideas. I only have plans for three Summer Servants of mine and no story for that either. I am not creative enough to weave them in any story, because how i imagine how they came to be. The best I came up with was a water olympic kind of event in a big water park after seeing one of Lambdas Ideas
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    Once I get AROUND to finishing my Kay sheet, I have the summer version of him already in the works. As well as a Summer Hassan(s).

    Also, I changed my avatar to some art a friend of mine drew of my favourite Servant, I felt it was more appropriate here anyway and variety is the spice of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed by Fortuna View Post
    That was partly the angle I was going for also blending together the ideas of Thanatos (a God of death or a being associated with death which is not strictly malevolent, merely out to perform a job) or the grim reaper due to the aspects of the scythe and being seen as delivering a peaceful death. I will have to look into the wife of Miclanthecuhtli angle, however that would fit with some ideas on the possible origin of the trend of skeleton saints in Latin America (Saint Muerte, San Pascualito, and San La Muerte) all possibly dating back to a pre-columbian god of death, likely Aztec in origin (or at least believed in but the Aztecs). I suppose if I really wanted an origin not based in a divine spirit I could go with the a historical timeline on Santa Muerte like this:

    Xtabay -> Ixtab -> Miclanthecuhtli's wife -> Aspects of Thanatos and the grim reaper added to their myths from cultural immigration -> Santa Muerte
    I remember how NittyGritty went to a similar degradation for his Scrooge Christmas sheet, but i think that is not necessary to do. Not all death needs to be degraded from Thanatos simply because death exists in every culture sphere.

    Just remember that Mayan/Aztec mythology is syncretized in the Nasuverse as seen by Quatzal. She is an aztec god, but was directly called a Mayan Goddess, her NP are Mayan and Aztec and she does use the Mayan word for the Underworld of Xibalba. Treating them independently isnt needed anyways, because their mythologies mix and complement each others plot holes.
    I remember the Xtabay, but cant associate it with someone rn, Ixtab has very interesting modern angles to use. I recommend not using thanatos and grim reaper and instead perhaps go the route of perhaps christian angels or simply popular religion. Santa Muerte was a being revered by the local criminals after all.
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    Hmm, do you guys know of any god or spirit that has advantage or killed a messiah? Only person i can think of are Judas (betrayed and lead Jesus to his death) and Longinus (Personaly killed Jesus), but im looking more for entities that are not human, probably demon, god, spirit, etc...

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    @Fortuna

    Thanks for the info. I meant it in the loosest way possible, as in it could be a savior/messiah or the messiah. It could be people outside christianity/judaism/islam, like Kalki being a savior. Im looking more into mythology, if possible since I at least am looking for a god related to the harming/death of a savior or at least advantage.

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    There's an incredibly twisted part of me that wants to make Mary a Summer servant. There's also the pun connection between Summer and Sumer that would give me another thing to throw my non-LBK lostbelt servants at.

    I'm not sure how exactly to help with summer servants other than to make them. So, if you need/want any sheets made, I can put them on the list.

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    Thanks for the input. Also unrelated note, would it be better for a servant with sword and shield NP have them divided as 2 different NPs or would it be okay to be just 1, the sword and shield?

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    Gil isn't exactly what you'd consider a messiah, but imagine summoning the snake who stole his immortality potion as an Assassin or something. With an NP that completely no-sells the very concept of immortality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Therion View Post
    Thanks for the input. Also unrelated note, would it be better for a servant with sword and shield NP have them divided as 2 different NPs or would it be okay to be just 1, the sword and shield?
    It depends, imo. If one or both weapons have some special properties that make them unique, it's better to make two NPs. If both are just relatively standard weapons embodying the person's feats/legend, might be better to make them into one NP.
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    @Therion: one could consider Balder a messiah in Norse Myth and therefor Hödr fits the bill somewhat

    @Fortuna: I think Santa Muerte is still plenty popular enough in modern times. The whole day of the dead festivity was for Santa Muerte iirc. And Ixtab and the suggested suicide cult was in a different part of south america too if i am not mistaken. while both have the same theme of death, they seem to approach it differently. So i would differentiate them personally
    but Ixtab is not that big of a name else, so it is not important. In my reconstruction she has a mention and thats it

    @BnEl15: Ey, ur blog with upcoming sheets is just a cooler rip-off of my servant compendium that shows my projects
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    Quote Originally Posted by BnEl15 View Post
    It depends, imo. If one or both weapons have some special properties that make them unique, it's better to make two NPs. If both are just relatively standard weapons embodying the person's feats/legend, might be better to make them into one NP.
    Thanks for the answer. My Saber King Sebastian has an NP where he uses the Sword and Shield of the Founding Father. However, since it is a degraded version, it has lower effects, so i put as one NP. For the original, it might be better to divide as 2 because of its effects.

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    @Therion: one could consider Balder a messiah in Norse Myth and therefor Hödr fits the bill somewhat
    Sweet, Im gonna search him to learn more. Thanks

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