>>56578646 (OP)

Centro LEAKS
@CentroLeaks
[ New, more accurate translation of the OFFICIAL ORIGIN OF THE POKÉMON UNIVERSE ]

In the beginning, there was a vortex of chaos.
All mixed slowly together, and everything was a blur.
One day, a large egg appeared in the center of the chaos. For a long time, the egg continued to shake.

Eventually, the vortex stopped, and the egg broke. The absolute god AUS was born.

The scattered fragments of the egg transformed into giants, and attacked the newly born AUS.
However, AUS quickly grew, and continuously defeated the giants.
At last, after a fierce battle, AUS defeated all the giants.

The wounded AUS created an alternate self.
As the left and right side of AUS’s body were different, it created two selves.
AUS gathered the body of the defeated giants, and poured its blood into them.

From the one who resembled his left poured out light, so AUS named it IA, the god of light.
From the one who resembled his right poured out darkness, so AUS named it EA, the god of darkness.

To the two, AUS commanded that the world be filled with people, and fell into a deep slumber.

Although IA and EA were different in appearance, they loved one another, were joined, and had many children.
However, there still existed no world, and their frail children, who had nowhere to go, died one after the other.
Though overcome with great sadness, IA and EA thought of creating a world where all could live healthy and prosperous lives.

IA and EA called their children REI, the god of eyes; AI, the god of heart; and HAI, the god of voice.

>>56578646 (OP)
hmmm but were does zarude fit in all of this?????????

>>56578658
When REI open its eyes, everything that was there appeared. There was now contour and color in the world.
When AI wished for it, everything that was there could be felt. A sense of calm spread.
When HAI shouted, everything that was there trembled. A blessed timbre began to resonate.

To the three, IA and EA gave the seed of life and told them to nurture it.

The three gathered in a circle and prayed, and the seed sprouted.

The sprout quickly grew, and became the giant tree of life.
However, the tree continued to grow, soon filling the entire world, and no one was able to move.

The three asked Father IA and Mother EA for help.

EA and IA joined once again, and had three children.
The god of the sky, RAYQUAZA; the god of the earth, GROUDON; and the god of the ocean, KYOGRE were born.

RAYQUAZA wrapped its body around the tree of life.
GROUDON and KYOGRE slammed their bodies into the tree of life.
Eventually, the tree fell and broke into three pieces.

REI, AI, and HAI prayed, saddened that the tree would rot away like this.
Then, the pieces of the broken tree would transform into the sky, earth, and ocean.

RAYQUAZA became the pillar that holds the sky.
The shadow that reached into the heavens became the three gods who sustain the sky: KAIRYU, KABIGON, and BANGIRAS.
The air filled the sky, and the stars sparkled.

GROUDON became the land that covers the earth.
The roar of the diving land became the three gods who sustain the earth: DAABU, SAAN, and GOODON.
The earth shook, and the mountains stirred.

KYOGRE became the veins of water that embraced the oceans.
The ripples that disappeared into the seas became the three gods who sustain the ocean: LATIAS, METAGROSS, and LATIOS.
The ocean was filled with water, and the waves whispered.

Thus the world was born.

>>56578706
IA and EA, and the various gods, were very pleased with this, and filled this world with their children.

That peaceful world was a paradise for the children of god.

The children of god would continue to multiply.

Through that, words would change little by little.

Over time, the gods began would call those who lived in the world by two names.

The children of god who resembled the great father, IA, would be called “Pokémon”. The children of god who resembled the great mother, EA, were called “humans”.

The absolute god AUS will soon awaken, and seeing the world filled with its descendants, will promise great abundance and prosperity

>>56578646 (OP)
This isn't canon, the version of this sigil that appears in the Sinjoh Ruins contains a third circle in the centre that presumably represents Giratina. So this version is outdated and inaccurate.

>>56578646 (OP)
This shit looks really outdated.

>>56578669
Not every mythical has to fit though????

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>>56578646 (OP)
hold the fuck up...

>>56578646 (OP)
Friendly reminder that this version is missing the Giratina circle that was later added for the Sinjoh ruins event. It was placed next to Dialga and Palkia

>>56578706
So Dialga and Palkia mated and Palkia gave birth to Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza? Strange that Palkia is the female one given that her head and neck are so phallic. Palkia is also ugly and kaiju-esque compared to Dialga, so I imagined Palkia as the male member and Dialga as female.

>>56579647
Salty at each other because divorced couple vibes

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>gyarados
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME!

>>56579735
They chose Snorlax as a back up not even you

>>56579647
Palkia is pink

>>56578646 (OP)
>Deoxys
How does that work? Isn't bro an alien?

>>56578646 (OP)
Lockstin is gonna have a feild day dissecting this info, and is probably dropping everything to male a new video

>There's a Sefirot for Pokemon
How deep does it go

>>56580515
alien who became a pokemon

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>>56579586
>>56579589
Here's the complete puzzle bro

>>56580912
Also I know you're here right now lockstin, sniffing around.
What would your Far left friends think if they knew you frequented the "Nazi Far right" 4Chan?

>>56581081
Ah yes the well known duo of Cresellia and Heatran.
I cant think of a more iconic pair

>>56581081
Salamencefags and Darkraifags BTFO.

>>56581081
More confirmation that Gen 4 was supposed to be the last Gen.
And 5 was a reboot.

I wonder how big this sefriot is now with all the other legendaries beyond Gen 4.

>>56578706
>three gods who sustain the sky:
>KAIRYU,
Makes sense, Dragonite has a sky motif. >KABIGON
How is Snorlax sky related?
>and BANGIRAS.
What the fuck?

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>>56578646 (OP)
I really hope this is cut content because its fucking gay and lame and reminds me of that one faggots videos

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Post the other story drafts retard

>>56581296
It's in the Arceus HGSS event with an updated version, so it's not cut, just secret.

>>56581181
Considering what the last three sets of box legends are, do you suppose that Gamefreak has started moving away from making godmons because the sefirot was growing too big to easily maintain?

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>>56578646 (OP)
>Tex
Yee-Haw

>>56579647
there is another leaked creation myth that is summed up as "momma Arceus creates the creation trio as her sons to rule reality she lays an egg and fucks off to go sleep. Palkia and Dialga choose to watch over the egg, Gratina doesn't want to. They end up in a fight and in the process of beating the shit out of Dialga and Palkia, Giratina cracks the egg open and reality spills out fully formed, momma Arceus comes back to find a giant mess, a broken egg, and two of her kids beat to shit and both of them blaiming Giratina. So mommy is pissed and banishes Giratina to watch over unreality for the rest of eternity

>>56581419
It makes sense because he's the rootin-est tootin-est Pokemon they've made

>>56581381
The same design is present (with an added circle in the middle), but that doesn't mean that the specific Pokemon listed on the images are the canon legendary Pokemon that are represented by it. For a start, it's not consistent whether Gyarados or Snorlax is included, plus the codenames for the newer Pokemon don't seem to directly match up. And the later games added things Pokemon that simply don't fit into this anymore (Galarian legendary birds, Paradox legendary beasts, Regieleki/Regidrago).

>>56581081
The bottom 3 are still speculation. We don't know for sure what Daabu, Saan, and Goodon are. I suspect it's really Darkrai, Cresselia, and either Garchomp or Heatran.

Daabu is phonetically similar to "devil" which makes me think it's a prototype for Darkrai. Saan could just be a transliteration of "sun" which later turned into a moon theme and became Cresselia. Just my personal speculation.

I'm looking forward to all the autism romhacks and comics this will make

>>56581407
I don't think they moved away from it entirely because X and Ys legendaries are based on the Norse Yggdrasil (world tree) and one of the Arceus storied had a mythological world tree. Maybe its a stretch though.

Also I dont know any Pokemon after Gen 6 lmao

>>56581181
This is why I use the term "Tours" when talking about generations.


Gens 1-4 are Tour 1, which covers regions correlated to IRL Japan


Gen 5-8 are Tour 2, which focused on the US and EU

Something I think complements this is the whole "Tradition, Innovation, Hot, Cold" pattern seen with each region. Each tour resets this so called pattern. So...
Tour 1:
Kanto (Innovation)
Johto (Tradition)
Hoenn (Hot)
Shinnoh (Cold)


Tour 2:
Unova (Innovation)
Kalos (Tradition)
Alola (Hot)
Galar (Cold)

Looking at things this way, yes, gen 4 was an ending and gen 5 reboot of sorts.

>>56581296
He comes here to the naughty website.
Even though he is a Libtard Lefty.

If we could definitely tie some of his video ideas to threads here, imagine what kind of blackmail we could do to this Cuck.

>>56581181
Gen 2 was originally supposed to be the last gen, and that's when Tajiri stepped down and gave control to Masuda. Gen 3 was the first reboot (even going as far to completely revamp the stats system), and they remade FRLG and HGSS to fit in with the new canon.

>>56581818
You could argue that most gens could be seen as a "reboot" in some way. Gen 5 shifted the series away from Japan for the first time and presumably abandoned this old lore they were creating. Gen 6 introduced mega-evolution and seemed to strongly imply that there were separate multi-verses (one that contained mega-evolution and one that did not). Gen 8 was the first gen where they cut the old battle gimmicks (megas, z-moves) and made each new battle gimmick exclusive to its region. And in gen 9 they switched to an open world format.

>>56581878
> Libtard Lefty
That’s a political oxymoron Anon. Liberalism is on the opposite end to socialism.

>>56582185
My point still stands.
His crowd are not forgiving people.
If they found out he frequented this site, they would cancel him.

>>56582185
>That’s a political oxymoron Anon. Liberalism is on the opposite end to socialism.
Please understand most people don't understand what liberalism is

>>56581878
>we
Not your personal army, faggot.

Wait if humans and pokemon are actually related then why don't humans come from eggs

>>56582365
anon..

>>56582365
they do, all human women lay eggs in the pokeworld

>>56579647
Dialga and Palkia fucked and created Mesprit, Uxie and Azelf. They bestowed the seed of life upon their three children, it sprouted into a yggdraasil-esque tree but broke, the fragments of which becoming the weather trio. And apparently each member of the creation each a pseudo-legendary to guard their respective domains. Dragonite for the atmosphere, Gyarados for the sea, and Tyranitar for the land. Palkia created Pokemon and Dialga created human beings. This is the gist of it.

So wait if all regular Pokemon that aren't on that evolved (irl version) from Mew then does that mean Gyarados, Dragonite and Tyranitar not and if so what does that mean for all their prevos

>>56582775
It probably the other way around and just there to explain why they're such strong pokemon/psuedo legendaries when the game was made.

>>56582775
The Pokedex entries explicitly states that Mew being the ancestor of all Pokemon or containing all genetic code from every Pokemon is just a theory to try and explain why it can learn every single move and use Transform. Because it's so rare, it won't have been studied extensively to test these hypotheses. It's never been officially confirmed that these theories are true.

Honestly going off of the world tree stuff, this would've made way more sense with the X and Y legends thrown in.

>>56581081
>Tyranitar maintains the sky
>Metagross maintains the ocean
Wtf is this dumb shit?

>>56584065
Gyarados maintains the ocean. Other than the fact that he's a psuedo-legend, Metagross's involvement in the hierarchy is unknown.

Has anyone tried adding the new symbols given in scarlet and violet to the lore circle?

>>56581121
we're here too, dipshit, you really think ppl got such a thin skin?

>>56584158
>Gyarados maintains the ocean
Nope, the charts all say he helps maintain the sky with Tyranitar. I'm not sure how Tyranitar helps the sky in anyway.

>>56578646 (OP)
cut content is cut content for a reason man.

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Something like this or all overlapped onto the main one

>>56581134
I have no idea why they paired Cresselia with Heatran instead of, you know, Darkrai, like everyone else was fucking saying before someone made this image. Seriously, what idiot made this?

>>56584158
>>56584283
Isn't that Snorlax, not Gyarados?

>>56584065
This is only one of the iterations of the story, the one written 15 minutes later (according to the archive timestamp). In the first iteration it was the Lake Spirits (Rei, Ai, Hai) tearing down the Tree of Life, and the earhly Gods were Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Gyarados respectively. For the second iteration they essentially gave more power to the Weather Trio, and tried to shoehorn more (pseudo)legedaries into the earthly Gods' roles.

I personally like the first one better.

>>56584429
>>56582519
thing you got wrong with both is that the weather trio are also palkia and dialgas kids rayquaza wraps itself round the tree, while groudon and kyogre hit it with their heads. basically groudon and kyogre end up with brain damage and rayquaza ends up as there designated tard wrangler

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>>56578646 (OP)
>Gordon

>>56584610
That's only in the second iteration. In the first iteration the Lake Spirits tear the Tree down and the Weather Trio comes from the Fragments.

>>56578646 (OP)
>Metagross hanging out with the latis

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What the fuck was their problem?

>>56578646 (OP)
You can tell it’s early because Dialga is pink and Palkia is blue

Maybe I'm missing something but why are Latias and Latios on the sea side?

>>56584383
Genuinely the chart was probably made when darkrai was planned to be a roamer still so darkrai, cresselia pair together similarly to the latis and then garchomp makes sense seeing as every other region has at least one pseudo legendary present

>>56585287
Lati duo are for hoenn, hoenn is sea because too much water

>>56585287
You question that and not fucking Metagross?

>>56585404
I mean, the Latis are practically jets, so they belong in the sky. I have no clue where Meagross would end up.

>>56581181
We actually knew both Gen 3 and Gen 5 were meant to be reboots, so this is nothing new

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>>56578646 (OP)
Fucking Gordon

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>>56581369
>"The power of defeated giants infuses this Plate."
Oh Shit

I don't really get it, it's one thing to claim Arceus is a god, it's another thing entirely to claim that any given Gyarados is. And I thought Deoxys was the result of DNA being mutated by cosmic rays?

>>56587208
Not every Gyrados is a god. The original divine platonic gyrados was.

holy fuck i had a vision of having sex with Arceus once
And now this leak confirms he had sex with some man
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>56587487
We all submit to God, anon.

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>>56587674
BUT WHY ME
WHY WAS I CHOSEN

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>>56587759
God works in mysterious ways.
You just gotta learn how to embrace him.
No biggie, right?

>>56587892
I have too much shit to tell, but this ain't the right time. mods always nuke my "schizo shit" anyway.

>>56587208
These are early drafts of the lore. Unless someone finds a more recent version of this in the leaks then the likelihood is that the exact Pokemon that were part of the early creation process are still not confirmed.

>>56587922
[spoilerthere's usually a gay pokemon thread on /trash/ to go vent anon][/spoiler]

>>56588099
>gay
no it was straight sex. Read the leak, anon.

>>56588099
I'm a disgrace for fucking my spoiler up.
Forgive me Arceus.

>>56588118
Oh hell, never mind then.

>>56578669
Nothing after gen 4 is canon

glad they cut this nonsense, including shit like gyarados or dragonite in a creation myth just makes the world feel very small

>>56587208
Masuda has said that Arceus isn’t actually a god, and neither are Kyogre/Groudon. The circle is meant to be pokemon that the people see as divinity, so you can have regular strong pokemon and boxart legendaries, mythicals, etc. all together. Gyarados has legends about its destructive power anyway.

>>56588217
Tajiri called Dragonite the god of destruction in the Zukan btw, which XY with Yveltal aped much later on.

>>56588470
>Masuda has said that Arceus isn’t actually a god
retconned

>>56578646 (OP)
Lance is such a chad having Gyarados, Tyranitar and Dragonite on his teams.

>>56588518
He said it after he and the others wrote all of this.
>b-but PLA and-
Nothing after Gen 5 is canon, as far as I’m concerned.

>>56588646
Seethe!

>>56581778
With the power of Hindsight, we can now draw schizo lines between various things in Post-DPPt games and the lore from DPPt.
>Typhlosion has a story about kidnapping people in the old days. Hisui Typhlosion is a Ghost-type, who historically are known to kidnap people.
>The Creation Myth for the Pokemon universe has the Creator God fighting unknown entities outside the egg. Ultra Beasts are not considered Pokemon even though they can follow all the same rules, and Ultra Space is considered extraplanar in nature.
>The source for all Pokemon and Humans is one Really Big Guy. Dynamax could be seen as pokemon getting enough power to try and tap into their origins and get huge, which is why all of them can do it. This also means Humans can technically Dynamax, psuedo-confirming something that fetish artists have been running with for years.
That's just stuff off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more throughlines that can be found.

>>56584255
How about you guys like get better user names and stop basedjacking - as a fellow left wing person it’s embarrassing how cringe you guys act.

>>56589310
a schizo theory I have is that if palkia/dialga giratina are made from the bodies of the giants, they are not particularly large among pokemon. I'm thinking the tao trio from unova could be "siblings" of the creation trio, a piece of the giants body imbued with Arceus blood left over that (unintentionally?) created the original dragon that ended up spitting into reshiram zekrom and kyurem.

The reason the legendaries are catchable isn't because you thew a masterball at a god, You as the player are quite literally either there decedents, siblings or relative and tagging along with you for a human lifespan is probably a fun break and a way to see how the great nth grandkids are getting along and a way to monitor reality from the ground. They are visiting the family for a holiday. In all honesty a legendary like palkia or rayquaza battling under a trainer is probably more like roleplay/playfighting and letting the younger ones win to keep it fun for them.


Also on your last theory the myth implies humans take after their 'mother' Palkia. So the ability to dynamax may be something pokemon inherited from daddialga.

>>56578646 (OP)
I was wondering, considering this leak, it's pretty cool that arceus event in masters featured along Cynthia even Steven and Lance (Metagross/Dragonite/Gyarados)

>>56590467
I think there's still room for the "avatar" concept to exist within this lore.
The legendaries we catch aren't the main body; they're an avatar sent to hang out with us for a while and get info. The avatar could still probably level continents if they really wanted to, but there's nothing in the lore that contradicts the legendaries from being able to make more of themselves, or splitting off and making their own pokemon "children" like Aus/Arceus did.

>>56581878
twitterfags coming to 4chan trying to personal army, a tale old as time. KYS
>>56582240
>If they found out he frequented this site they would cancel him
You're a fucking retard

>>56584673
>>56584610
Anyone have the second iteration handy? I need to see that.

>>56578646 (OP)
So do we have any legitimate leads as to the identities of Daabu, Saan, and Goodon? Battle Revolution has a list of prototype Gen IV names on TCRF, but I'm not seeing any matches there.

Any lore on Ho-oh, Lugia, the birds and the beasts?
How do they fit into all this?

>>56592209
It looks like they form a Trio with Regigigas. The beasts, birds, and regis are their creations and they might have a relation to the lake trio.

>>56578646 (OP)
>Ho-oh: heart
>Lugia: soul
>Regiggias: body
Kino

>>56592400
>no brain
Whoa this really is from Gamefreak...

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>>56592097
daabu is thought to be darkari, saan is speculated to be a very early counterpart of darkari that was based on daytime that eventually became cressalia and groodon garchomp since its the only missing psudo.

>>56578706
The pseudos being sustainers of the land/sea/sky makes no sense. Ho-Oh (sky), Lugia (sea) and Regigigas (land) would be a far better fit that actually lines up pretty neatly with the lore we actually get in the games. Given that the pseudos are grouped by region, it seems more like they are supposed to be protectors of Kanto/Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh instead.

>>56581081
>Tyranitar is a sky god
How did that happen? Is it because it causes sandstorm?
Feel like these 3 would be replaced by those 3 cloud legendary pokemon from black and white.

>>56592629
the lore seems to imply that the non legendary mons are in turn the children of kyogre groudon and rayquaza. The is a line that straight up says the dragonite evo line were created from rayquaza's shadow is it flew.

I think ttar was mixed up? the initial translations had it "varungas" associated with groudon which made more sense

>>56592780
oops forgot to reply to
>>56592647

>>56589310
>>The Creation Myth for the Pokemon universe has the Creator God fighting unknown entities outside the egg. Ultra Beasts are not considered Pokemon even though they can follow all the same rules, and Ultra Space is considered extraplanar in nature.
The Flame Plate mentions the giants, so if I had to guess, I'd say that the giants became the Plates and the origin of Pokemon Types

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Can I get Dialga as Andrew and Palkia as Ashley?

>>56578646 (OP)
This coloured version includes a blue circle (Dialga), yellow triangle (Giratina), pink circle (Palkia), which means that the Pokemon in those respective zones could have some additional connection to those respective creation trio members.

>>56589310
Bloodmoon Ursaluna also has some resemblance to that Ursaring story with its scarred eye. So maybe that's another reference to those stories like Hisui Typhlosion.

Although Ultra Beasts seem to come from entirely different dimensions rather than just being extra-planetary. So I don't think they are the same as the giants. Eternatus does seem to satisfy the criteria though, given that it's not of this planet, absolutely huge and has a stupidly high base stat total in Eternamax form. Then again, it does job to two dogs so maybe it isn't this primordial cosmic entity.

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>Regis(giants) are supposed to be a perfect equal to Arceus that she cannot kill outright
>born from the eggshells, which became plates
>Gigas has slow start, implying he's incomplete
>has multiple eye colors, implying multiple types
So not only is there a regi for every type, but a "perfect" Regigas likely has multi-type too

>>56593410
Be not afraid.

>>56593446
biblically accurate pokemon

>>56585288
the source for that one is 4chan

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>>56578646 (OP)

>>56582185

Gaslight old as time

>>56593563
kek

>>56578646 (OP)
what about mew and giratina?
sorry im stupid

>>56593685
Mew is right there

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>>56593410
>Arceus when he finds this long slut alone in the woods

>>56593685
Giratina is third in the trio before being banished. Don't know how he was created because Arceus only has two children with the human hero in the myth.

>>56593685
This lore seems to have been plotted out before Giratina was conceptualized. The HGSS version of this diagram actually has an added circle in the center, which is where Giratina would most likely belong.

>>56593563
>This is bullshit you let fucking Gordon in

>>56593735
The giratina myth is the most divergent of the three creation myths we get

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i cant parse the reek origin story, feel the translation might be too messy

>>56584429
>>56584610
there's this version where the weather trio is born from the soul of the slain giratina>>56581369

>>56593685
>>56593752
Digging through has two versions of Giratina's origin, one where he's Arceus's shadow that just fucking started *existing* on its own, in another it's Rayquaza's shadow because Rayquaza is low-key Pokemon Jesus seemingly on top of being Grandma's Anti-Orbital defense cannon.

>>56581081
why are there non legendary pokemons there?

>>56593685
in two of the versions we have, there's a black giant that arceus creates as a destroyer deity. in one version, the black giant is specifically palkia and dialga's brother, and its body becomes the world, while its soul becomes the weather trio. in another version, its body becomes mt coronet

>>56593893
Some of the Pseudo-Legends and also Gyarados are apparently actually just straight up gods just, like, it's a shinto thing where they're more a race of lesser gods, kinda like how there's a bunch of raijin and fujin and suijin and so on.

>>56588178
*Gen 3

>>56581369
>when the dex said giratina was banished for its violence, it meant he was slaughtering primordial life before the world was created
damn

>>56593920
Demigods, they're demigods

So whats the general consensus on what myth is the 'canon' one?
The one with dialga and palkia fucking reality into existence one seems to be the one most referenced the most in the games. (the Canalave library myths the plates and the HGSS event) but completely lacks Giratina.
While the Giratina myths seem to imply humans were created separately of pokemon which the games seem to imply isn't correct?

So is it sibling insest or god getting railed and mpreged by a guy?

>>56594341
I like the idea of Giratina being the unknown or forgotten god. He's kinda the joker in the deck of cards.

>>56584837
I actually think they captured the atmosphere of an authentic old creation myth perfectly.

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>>56594341
the lore folder is split into 2 sections, the arceus lore and the random folklore lore, the arceus lore has many revisions it goes from 1.1 to 5.3, its likely everything before 5.3 has been scrapped as..thats how revisions go, i believe 5.3 is what centro posted earlier today https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845445639984853472
compared to the previous revisions, its more safe, and doesnt state that humans are born from arceus neither that arceus got fucked by a human.
but i want believe there was more revisions that we just dont have, in the normal game we have a even safer version in the plates where it just says the ''power of the defeated giants powers the plate'' rather than mentioning blood or remains or limbs

>>56594708
is there a full set of translations for download? im a lorefag and the creation myth stuff has caught my intrest.

>>56594708
Yo you have the folder? Could you drop the link?

>>56594341
Given the one giant in the one story and multiple in the others, and the giants being fragments of the shell+time-space not existing at first, the two of them could both co-exist through divine bullshit pretty easily as the one being Arceus's hatching out of the egg.

>>56578646 (OP)
I don't understand how the lake trio relates to those other trios like the pattern implies.
What does Regigigas have to do with emotion?

>>56595299
IMO it has more to do with "eyes", "heart", and "voice". It's what the docs say were the original epithets of the trio instead of knowledge, emotions, and willpower. It also lines up with the unique moves they learn, like Azelf getting Uproar.

Uxie (Eyes) is connected to Ho-Oh because of something to do with dreams and rebirth. It's power is said to have something to do with bringing color and life to things when it opens its eyes.
Mesprit (Heart) is connected to the regis because of the connection to humanity. It's also why Mesprit is on the side with Ea/Palkia, who is the one more connected with humans.
Azelf (Voice) is connected with the birds that rule over nature. It's cry is described as being primal and destructive.


The crazy rape folktales we got also mention the "eyes, heart, and voice" motif, as in the Hunter and Ursaring story. It seems like it was a big focus for the lore that got left out in the final product.

>>56594341
https://pastebin.com/x9Rne5iZ
someone needs to pull a hesiod and reconcile all these creation myths.

>>56595611
I really like the idea of Giratina being the destroyer of the egg of creation but going too far and being slain/banished, with its soul becoming the weather trio. It makes the matter/antimatter thing really cool. But I'm not sure how to reconcile it with the other versions

>>56578646 (OP)
Everyone is shitposting about pokefuckers but I’m flabbergasted that at any point gamefreak was actively invested enough in the cosmology of this series to create something like this

Sinnoh is so fucking peak

>>56595755
I'm amazed that the countless fan theories and charts about how every legendary is connected to each other in whatever tenuous fashion is actually something GF did

>>56594341
>So whats the general consensus on what myth is the 'canon' one?
I think they're just the roughdrafts of the stories you find in DPPt, especially the sword one.

>>56595570
I think there might also be a weather trio connection there as Lugia and Kyogre share the same flipper fingers, and looking at Kyogre's pseudo legendaries there's a theme of flying Psychic types connected to Water like Lugia.
Regigas has gems in his forehead and is a pokemon asociated with the earth while Groudon's mythicals are all living minerals.
Ho-oh doesn't have a strong connection to either, but it is also a sky ruler that has a perch on a tower, but that's way more superficial.

>>56595811
if peak was the bottom, chuderino

>>56594708
If I'm being honest, the earliest version should probably be considered the "intended" version that happened in-universe. Having skimmed the subsequent versions, it looks like that rather than refining the actual story, they gloss over or omit parts of it.
For that reason, I posit the following: All versions of this story are considered true in-universe, but only the original draft is the reality. The revisions are various retellings passed down in-universe, gradually drifting due to sensibilities and culture, until we have the "safe" version seen in-game.