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Thanks for the tests, good info. +1

 

Definitely good info!

Did you test the 380i in a 90 degree orientation? That usually nets another 1-2c in cooling.

 

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Nice work

 

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-Each water block is tested in the optimal mounting position (either as designed or rotated 90° CCW). You can find detailed orientation piece on XS Forums.
-Results for Phobya UC-2 LT are way better than in my first roundup (on XS). First water block was defective, had a little bow in it's base so I ordered a new one.
-Haswell results for Koolance CPU-380I are worse than in my first roundup. I retested it 8 times and results were confirmed. I believe that this (new) 4770K has a different IHS, more concave. Will try to borrow another 4770K from a friend or just buy a 4790K and try my luck, need gems

-The best jet for EK Supremacy are J2 (1mm) for Haswell and J1 (0,8mm) for Ivy Bridge-E.

I'll have to try the jetplate 2 - my 4770K showed rotated CPU-380 clearly better than the supremacy (I only tried the last JP). But I am about to do a retest so it's good timing to try that.

 

Speaking of rotated orientation, you guys really need to take pictures of what you mean. I opened up the 380i and checked the jetplate orientation and this seemed most logical to me based on that and the 4770k die orientation:



Excuse that ridiculous angle but you get the point.

 

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Originally Posted by geggeg

Speaking of rotated orientation, you guys really need to take pictures of what you mean. I opened up the 380i and checked the jetplate orientation and this seemed most logical to me based on that and the 4770k die orientation:



Excuse that ridiculous angle but you get the point.

Yeah that's what I call "rotated" and that worked best for me on z87 and x79.

 

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Yeah that's what I call "rotated" and that worked best for me on z87 and x79.

Ya, that makes sense given the jetplate inside. But I have seen a lot of people say the 90 degree orientation is the other way round instead (Koolance writing perpendicular to ram slots is how they describe it). Glad this is settled here, but as I said- pics would be great in the future for each block's orientation during the testing

 

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Originally Posted by geggeg

Ya, that makes sense given the jetplate inside. But I have seen a lot of people say the 90 degree orientation is the other way round instead (Koolance writing perpendicular to ram slots is how they describe it). Glad this is settled here, but as I said- pics would be great in the future for each block's orientation during the testing

Hmmm I thought I'd changed my website to include a photo - guess not!

 

Thanks for the comparison. Just wondering, bu how similar is the newer EK Supremacy Clean compared to the Supremacy, in terms of performance?

 

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Thanks for the comparison. Just wondering, bu how similar is the newer EK Supremacy Clean compared to the Supremacy, in terms of performance?

It's the same! Just different design.

 

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Why would a 90º CW vary from a CCW rotation for optimal orientation? As long as the inlet and outlet are adhered to, it should be the same.

 

Thanks for posting this round up here, Moonman (+rep!).

How comes the Apogee XL performs worse than the HD? To me it looks like it has more microfins, but perhaps the flow inside the waterblock is not optimal or there's a contact issue. I loved TIM photos of SkinneeLabs reviews

 

Nice job, REALLY nice!

What are you using for mounting hardware and for pressure on kits that don't have a system or stops that dial in a specific mounting pressure?

What about thermal compound? Kit or your own?

Awesome stuff!!

 

Good job there mate! + Rep! Wondering what's the temp difference between normal installation and 90* CCW for the EK Supremacy. Worth the trouble of disassembling the loop (rigid tubing) and reposition the block?

 

@Moonmanovich

Really nice work you put together. By the time I believe it time to upgrade my CPU block. I will going to keep my eyes on your work. +rep

 

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Awesome, thanks for all the hard work!

 

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Originally Posted by Moonmanovich

According to my testing it is about 0.8°C in favor of 90° CCW.

Thanks! I guess I won't be disassembling my loop anytime soon, after all...

 

Amazing test, this will be incredibly helpful to us all!

I have just one comment/question however... are your results graphs mislabeled? The're marked ΔT, but it's not clear what temperatures are being compared to reach that value. Is it core minus water? Or is it just core temps?

 

delta T is core temp minus water temp.

Thanks for testing! Interesting to see Supremecy tested better than Koolance on one cpu, but near same on the other. I dont think platform differences matter as much as different IHS and different samples of waterblocks. Have seen just as much variance (including my own testing) within similar cpus as across platforms. Not surprising that Sten got Koolance better vs vice versa in this test. Two different samples of waterblocks, slightly different bows, different tims, different mounting pressure, different IHS shapes which make a huge difference as to how the bow affects things.

Nonetheless you can get see the ones that tend to perform best across wide variety of cpus.