I hate freetards so much it's unreal.

>>102566908 (OP)
>steal a couple gplv2 libraries
>"UMMM SWEATY THAT MEANS YOUR WHOLE CODEBASE IS GPLV2 NOW"
what?

>>102567055
>I hate freetards so much it's unreal.
𝘈non posted, sme𝘢ring his keybo𝘢rd with Cheeto dust. "Th𝘢t'll show em" he puffed 𝘢s his corpulent body stressed his secondh𝘢nd office ch𝘢ir beyond the engineering te𝘢ms' worst nightm𝘢re.

𝘈non wiped the gre𝘢se from his pimply he𝘢d, self s𝘢tisfied. He w𝘢s utterly ignor𝘢nt of the hundreds of bits of free softw𝘢re th𝘢t 𝘢llow him to use the internet, or the free softw𝘢re th𝘢t he used to gener𝘢te his furry porn. "Fuckin freet𝘢rds" he b𝘢rely thought.

>>102567142
imagine not knowing how software licensing works and being on /g/


If you steal a car, then put a buncha stickers on it the car doesnt become yours.

Winamp stole code and added bits to it. Doesnt make it theirs

>>102567055
fpbp

>>102566908 (OP)
So can we merge quake 2 into Winamp now?

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>>102567272
>>102567055
samefag

It's funny to me that it was in violation of GPL for 20+ years and nobody actually gives a flying fuck until the source is released and then everybody is shitting their pants pretending to care like it matters one fucking bit

>>102567398
If anything this makes a complete joke of software licensing. It turns out you can get away with GPL violations no problem

>>102567398
nobody knew until the current owners fucking admitted it by publishing the stolen code

>>102567462
>stolen code
Nothing will happen, stop being dramatic. pussy.

>>102567142
>mfw it's just like propietary but reversed
not true freedom, public domain bros, we won again

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>>102567455
>turns out you can break the law if you don't get caught

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>not using WACUP instead

>>102567507
It already has happened.

The project has been forked and relicensed. The owner of winamp cannot do anything to stop independent development at this point.

>>102567142
unironically thats how it works

>>102567142
>steal
>not be a piece of shit, unworthy of respect
pick just one.

>>102567218
>>102567598
That's not how it works. Violations of the GPL are intellectual property disagreements between copyright holders that are to be litigated for possible damages. Since free software generates little to no revenue there are no damages, unrelated parties cannot just chime in and relicense your software because it violated somebody else's rights.

>>102567562
wow i didnt know about this
thanks chingu im using it now <3

>>102567713
You don't get to use licensed software and then disregard the license. dipshit

>>102567192
This post makes no sense since the only people that care about GPL are Stallman level neckbeards.

>>102567764
Who cares, disregarding the GPL is based and should be encouraged. Fucking Oracle uses GPL, that alone should tell you how great it is at keeping evil megacorps away from FOSS.

>>102566908 (OP)
No idea why they care. Freetards are unable to get a life, let alone win a case in court.

>>102567917
yes just steal code it worked out so well in the past!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation,_Inc._v._Cisco_Systems,_Inc.

another example is how winamp is now GPL, due to idiotic takes like yours

So that means it's finally coming to linux free and open source?

>>102567962
>>102567764
The thing freetards don't understand is that a license gives rights to the copyright holder, not to users. The GPL attempts to pass the copyright holders rights on to the users, but only a court judgement can enforce that.

>>102568163
the thing you don't understand is the current owners of the winamp IP don't have any money to defend this in court, especially since their attempt at openwashing failed and their NFT scam wont work.

not to mention dolby is going to sue them for publishing their source code.

Radionomy fucked up badly and will have their hands full with dolby

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>>102567598
No.
- Using GPL code in a non-GPL project is a license violation. It does not result in an automatic change to the project license, and neither does it automatically invalidate it.
- Re-licensing the project under GPL is just one way of resolving the violation. It must be done by people behind the project.
- Forking the project and replacing the license with GPL resolves the original violation of the GPL, but introduces a violation of the project's own non-GPL license - although actually enforcing the latter would be quite difficult.
- Another forms of resolving the violation are removing the GPL'ed code, or obtaining a different, compatible license from the authors of the GPL'ed code (as GPL does not forbid dual licensing)
- You can violate multiple code licenses in the same project. The requirement for GPL-derived code to be also GPL does not automatically trump requirements set by other licenses that were violated.

>>102568318
That's fine, the point is (You) John Blow Anonymous have NO RIGHTS to disagree with license terms or to change them because (You) don't have any fucking copyrights.

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>>102567764
I do this every day with multiple Microsoft, Adobe and Autodesk products. What are you going to do about this

licensetrannyism is gay
just take whatever code you want to use

>>102568362
The license terms of the software they stole is GPL and dictates that the rest of the codebase is as well.

the "license" they released it under is legally unenforceable. it was nonsense written by ChatGPT

project is GPL until proven otherwise in court

I steal GPL code all the time and make it closed source and sell it, I also live in a non western country so too bad for you, what are you gonna do about it?

>>102567055
>t. Pajeet who wants to steal GPL code to use in his proprietary, closed-source, for-profit slop app

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>>102568473
>what will you be doings about it, SAAARRR?

>>102568514
Not a jeet but I’m making some good money thanks to you freetards, keep it up!

>>102568464
If you are not going to do any better than they are with respect the the license then why all the hypocritical rhetoric. Either licenses matter or they don't. You can't claim they matter then violate them anyways.

>>102568549
>I am NOT a jeet saarr
Post hand, Gurpreet.

Did you guys know that like 70% of the world population can steal your gay ass GPL code and you can’t do anything about it?

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>>102566908 (OP)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED PROPRIETARY FAGS

>>102568590
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST STEAL MY CODE
>I-I'M JUST GONNA STEAL IT BACK IF YOU DO!!!
average freetard logic everybody

>pirates movies, series, shows, games, music
>NOOOO YOU CANNOT PIRATE MY HECKIN GPL CODE THIS IS A VIOLATION OF DA LICENSE IM GONNA SUE YOUUUUU
freetards are ridiculous

>>102568668
>SAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR i will using of the free code and saarrrrs cannot stop me

>>102568563
If their "license" is entirely unenforceable due to contradicting itself then there is nothing to respect.

There is no court in the world that will uphold a logically impossible license. Radionomy didn't even have the rights to license the code as anything but GPLv2.

Its now FOSS.

>>102567055
/thread

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>>102567055
>>102567272
>>102568738
samefag

>Americans want to sue me when their own corporations are banned from making business in Russia
I’ll steal and pirate what I want

>>102568758
soon you will be drafted to die for Jewtin in Ukraine
just pray you get killed by Ukies before your Chechen brothers-in-arms can anally rape you.

>>102568779
Nah
But thanks for all the free stuff, lots of business opportunities here now since one one has to respect western copyright and licenses

>>102568698
The point you are missing is that when somebodies rights are violated, you don't get to step in for that person and decide for that person what actions should be taken. In fact you are doing harm to that person for doing so. A court might rule in favor of the plaintiff and give sole ownership of the WinAmp source code to them. By doing so they could license that software anyway they wanted to because they are the copyright owners and have ever right to change the license. But because a bunch of self righteous freetards decided on their own to take matters in to their own hands and relicensed the code and worked on it, you have essentially wiped out any value that the damaged parties may have hoped to recover. So really you are doing more harm than good, you have NO RIGHTS to that software. And claiming you do is the same thing as claiming that no licenses matter.

>>102568815
>you have NO RIGHTS to that software
if it includes GPL-licensed code then yes, in fact, we DO have rights to that software

>>102568758
>>102568804
how did russians get this based

>>102568804
>lots of business opportunities here
A "business opportunity" in modern Russia involves earning a couple thousand rubles lmao
Rubles are worth less than literal toilet paper. I'm not even kidding.

>>102568815
It's oppressive so it's okay to loot it.
Freetards are the niggers of technology.

>>102567218
Other way around, Winamp stole some stickers, put it on their car, and now their car isn't theirs any longer.

>>102568815
the GPL (the only license the source code can be distributed as legally) grants me plenty of rights

by Nullsoft using GPLv2 code, their code legally must be GPLv2. Just because they decided to steal it doesn't mean it is now theirs. The code, and their modifications, are GPLv2

>>102568919
Americans are just retarded, Mr. Chang in China is stealing all their GPL code right now and making millions off it and they can’t do anything about it but cope and seethe, westerners have this very weird worldview that their law applies everywhere in the world.

>>102568995
considering how much base functionality is implemented via stolen code, it's fair to say nullsoft added stickers

>>102569016
You have no rights unless a court invalidates the original license.

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>They used some GPL code in their product?
>Splendid! That means all of Winamp is now licensed under the GPL! Praise be to Richard Stallman and free software!

GREEN IS MY PEPPER
GREEN IS MY PEPPER
FREE IS YOUR SOFTWARE
FREE IS YOUR SOFTWARE

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>>102567192
Why (and how) are your A's italicized?

>>102569084
Nullsoft had no rights to sell it to Radiology, as they didn't legally own the code they stole. Radiology cannot legally be the owner as Radiology received stolen goods (the code).

Therefore, Radiology has no legal ability to license it in ANY manner.

What program did they steal? I wanna tell my non /g/ frens about it but they wouldn't understand without knowing who Winamp stole frum desu

>a license gives rights to the copyright holder, not to users
Pending the outcome of SFC v. Vizio.

It's funny you think anyone who isn't autistic cares about licenses.

>>102569219
Is the entire legal system autistic?

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The winamp revival everyone wanted

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>>102569180
Oh my Tetris, I LOVE retarded licensing disputes!

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WINAMP is now MINE by CELESTIAL LAW

>>102569174
the entire block of text was italics when i posted it. i guess 4chan hates italics, except the letter a

>>102569202
>Pending the outcome of SFC v. Vizio.
>the federal judge agreed that our case included an “extra element” not covered by copyright.
Sorry bozo, doesn't apply. Copyright is copyright the rules cannot and will not be changed this late in the game.

where's the native linux build?

>>102569239
Yes.

>>102566908 (OP)
Lmao that's not how it works.
Also
>>102567055
Fpbp

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>>102567764
I don't, and yet I can.

the issues section is glorious chaos

>>102569351
Where's that one guy who spammed hundreds of issues with nikocado avocado porn and racial slurs on openai's repo when you need him?

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>>102566908 (OP)
get liberated

>>102569016
No, the license gives restrictions to the developer. They are obligated to release as GPL2 but they didn't do that. They violated the license by not licensing the code as such but that doesn't mean it's GPL automatically. The original owner of the GPL code is free to take them to court and they will probably win, but they won't do that.

>>102569282
You didn't answer the full question.

>>102569200
Pls

>>102569433
oh, how I made it italic?
Unicode

>>102567554
This. Freetards hated him because he told them the truth.

>>102568815
The sad thing is that you actually had a point and then destroyed it all with
>you have NO RIGHTS to that software

I'll have Winamp running on Linux and BSD by tonight.

>>102569517
not the hero we deserved, but the hero we needed

>>102567142
>>102567598
if i name my kid winamp as a middle name ur not allowed to steal my kid that makes no sense

>>102569393
>they probably won't do that
It's free money, you can get a lawyer pro bono.
The case is crystal clear and obvious, so any lawyer would have to do the absolute minimum of work for getting lots of shekels.

>>102569589
This nigger doesn't even know the difference between trademarks and copyrights and wants to be a smartass hear.

Just don't steal code. It is that easy.
If you hate freetards, then why do you want to steal their code so much?

So funny seeing GPLtards think their meme license means anything (except in the hands of billion dollar corporations).

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>>102569661
ask the corporations you worship about that

>daily cuck license shill thread

>>102569661
Just don't steal code, anon.
Make your own.
If you are such an epic commercial success, it shouldn't be a problem for you.
Being angry at people because they are better than you, isn't a very healthy attitude.

>>102569688
>>102569661
>>102569589
>>102569471
This is all the same person.
Let him seeth a bit more.

>>102569688
Wdym cuck license?
This is BVLL license liberating the SHIT out of winamp
no cap this will finally a skibidi great music player on linux

>>102569720
No, I mean MIT cucks anti-shilling GPL, they are already ITT

>>102569682
>AGP license
sounds about right

There seems to have been proprietary bits in the GitHub repository as well, what license would apply to these now.
I'm assuming winamp had all permissions before they published this

>>102569393
GitHub’s TOS include a requirement that hosted data is in compliance with all relevant licenses. They absolutely have the right to take the project down
>>102569875
It’s fucked lmao
>stolen GPLv2 code requires the entire project to either remove it or itself become GPLv2
>licensed Dolby code (presumably) requires that their part is either not disclosed or not relicensed
>there is almost certainly no legal way to satisfy both requirements without a fuckload of work and taking the project down in the meantime

>>102569637
>bwaaah donut steel muh code

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>libdiscid
LGPL, including/linking with proprietary is allowed as long as modifications to LGPL code are published
>vcedit
Library GPL, older version of LGPL
>fir_proc.cpp
GPL but seems to be an executable that isn't distributed with winamp itself, probably used during development
>BladeMP3EncDLL.c
Library GPL
>ogg.h / vorbis.h
BSD
>libvpx
BSD
>mpg123
LGPL
>gnu bison
Only used as build tool, not distributed with winamp itself

>>102569720
>>102569739
Lmao there are 0 decent music players on Linux and you think winamp having GPL is going to make it good?

>>102569976
So where is the magnet with the complete dataset

>>102567055
>>102569322
samfag

>>102566908 (OP)
That's not how license violations work. They could, theoretically, remove the L/GPL code and replace it with something else, but who knows? Maybe they really will change the license of the whole project.

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>>102567562
DrO already said he won't touch the source code with a ten foot pole btw
https://x.com/The_DoctorO/status/1838593086949032070

>>102570103
Looks like they just grepped for "general public license" and didn't bother reading anything that came before it

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>>102566908 (OP)
>GPL violated for 20 plus years with zero consequences
Lmao@freetards, literal cucks working for free, if you weren't responsible for dragging the entire market down it would just be even funnier.

I'm just glad they didn't get a lawyer to look it over before releasing it. The shitshow is real but the source is released and Winamp will live on.

>>102567055
Kill yourself jeet nigger
>>102568481
>aka every LLM user

What's the QRD on WACUP? Did the developer have access to the winamp source or is that a totally different program from the ground up?

>>102567055
"You can't steal my code"
>"Okay"
You can't steal my code unless you let me steal your code in return
>I hate freetards so much it's unreal

Literally why are people like this?

>>102570432
It's developed by Darren Owen who used to work on Winamp plugins as well as Winamp itself before AOL axed it, IIRC you can find his name in the credits of Winamp 5.666 from 2013. As far as I'm aware, he's essentially rewriting Winamp bit by bit whilst keeping it backwards compatible. For some time it relied on the 5.666 binary and in the recent public test builds there isn't a need for those, and all the old Nullsoft plugins are also slowly rewritten.

>>102570453
People cope with the fact that they've sold out by turning greed into a virtue.

>>102567764
You literally do, retard

No one gave a shit about licensing when Winamp was made. It's a relic of the wild west days of the internet. Everything was considered free as long as you could download it. We're just looking at it from a modern lens.

>>102569136
>richard scamman
(((gpl)))
>goy you used my gpl licensed bricks, now your house is mine

>>102567055
uwu

>>102566908 (OP)
does anybody even use winamp anymore? I thought foobar2000 replaced it a long time ago.

>>102570788
If you don't like it, use someone else's bricks

>>102570119
What's even so good about it, you could make a 1:1 clone in a week probably

>>102571217
Quite literally nothing. Linux already has plainly superior options.

>>102566908 (OP)
Imagine having sex at least once in your life and caring about this lol

>>102571338
Your performative masculinity isn't any more interesting. If you have nothing to say, say nothing.

>>102568473
Holy based, I work for eastern european company so good luck suing them, freetards. LMFAO

>>102568473
>>102571543
I believe you're what civilized people have always referred to as "lawless barbarians."

>>102571563
>lawless barbarians
so basically the wild west of software development? sign me the fuck up

>>102571633
No, basically thieves, leeches, vermin, you know. Shame to your families and nations, bearers of the mark of Cain.

>>102571666
name one (1) so called civilized country that doesn't have thieves, leeches, or vermin

>>102571704
Sure, every family has its losers. But in some places, (Eastern Europe, India, Latin America) it seems to be the family business.

>>102571724
you could argue they are more free than anyone else

>>102571752
You could make the argument. You would be wrong, though. Primitive savagery isn't freedom. It's slavery.

>>102566908 (OP)
Okay, that's good to know.
>Please stop surrendering your freedom to Microsoft
Kek, and why? Because I'm using Github? Nigger.

wtf is going on in the issue tab?

>>102566908 (OP)
The source was leaked before, why didn’t anyone notice then?

>>102572629
No one competent cared about the leak.

>>102572629
People were hoping the open sourcing would lead to a revival and possibly linux/mac ports. None of witch is happening now.

why did they put it on github, they could have avoided all the license says no forking/github tos says yes forking, and all the issue jeetery if they just chucked a tarball over the wall

>>102572694
They seem pretty intent on keeping the repo up despite all of the backlash, so it's making me think that they were trying to sell their brand and it came up in due diligence that they had all these license violations that would be a deal breaker so they had to come clean before anyone would seriously consider buying them out. The Winamp name has got be worth at least a million bucks I'm guessing.

>>102571666
trips and the guy is all

> bearers of the mark of cain

lol

>>102572834

Probably a million rupees now=

>>102567142
it is literally how it works though, this is why you are supposed to dynamically link against GPL'd libraries, so you can keep your code under whatever license you want and still use GPL'd library functions.

>>102571666
I like how to transitioned to hate entire nations and people just because one anon admitted to not giving a fuck nor respecting the GPL. Give back the land your ancestral family and relatives stole.

>>102571704
once they reach a certain threshhold, certain benefits of civilized society we take for granted aren't possible anymore.

>>102571195
scammers, not any better than big corporations

>>102566908 (OP)
i thought winamp was ancient software that didnt get updated anymore

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You can download WinAmps source as public domain out of ChatGPT. Just ask for the source and it'll post it without any strings attached to it.

Billionaires don't respect you, nor licenses. If you starve, that is "your problem".

>>102573716
>transitioned
mindbroken ape, lol

>>102566908 (OP)
wasn't the full winamp source code leaked few yers ago

>>102569682
I love the AGPL license

>>102573885
>t. baldmer

>>102574222
Your reaction screams insecurity. Your selection of greentext - avoidance and deflection. Drop the act old man.

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>>102567142
Yup.

No, you aren't allowed to steal someone's labour because it touched your licensed code. Licenses aren't law, anons.

>Only corporations get to enforce their license!!
Keep coping corporate bootlickers. Winamp is now officially GPL and you can't do anything to stop it. I'm going to fork it twice just to make you seethe harder

>>102575254
you will do nothing with those forks because you're a fucking pseud

>>102568318
What even is that Dolby code anyway? I just use mpv or vlc. What am I missing out on by not having Dolby's proprietary code in my le heckin music player?

>>102568473
Hm, yah you got a point anon, I couldn't get away with that at work. I suppose you found the one downside of being an American.

>>102567462
Why wasn't this discovered when the source was leaked 10 years ago?

>>102566908 (OP)
Don't you fork it, goy, it's not allowed!

How can it be considered STEALING code if they still have the code?
>uh no, they actually own that series of keystrokes
That's what you niggers sound like

>>102567055
Cry about it nigger

>>102574481
Sorry pal, I ain't screamin. I ain't even looking at this thread, I've got better things to do than give a fuck about american values.

PIss off, shithead gaylord.