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>>2007134Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
>useful youtube channelshttps://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/painting Amrita Sher-Gil - Three Girls (1935)
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
No. 2073330
>>2073283Just think that while right now you're on a roadblock, when you secure a job you will have all the time to draw again. You did rhe good call going for a non-art career, honestly the only time I hated art was when I did it for a living, plus it barely paid. Also while it can be disheartening to se your art "de-evolve" due to lack of practice, what you learnt won't go away, when you're able to draw for more time you will pick up your knowledge again in no time.
Transitory times are hard but you will be able to push thru it, just keep moving on and remember you're doing this for a good future.
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Anons, in crosshatch style portraits like picrel, how do you decide the directon of the hatching lines?
No. 2073517
>>2073447Yes and yes. It doesn't teach you to draw, as such, but I noticed a significant improvement in my art. My lines are smoother and more controlled, I'm better at putting what's in my head on the page, and it helped me a ton with perspective.
If you can't be bothered to stick to a program like drawabox, do the exercises as warm ups before you draw, it'll still help you.
No. 2073533>>2073540>>2073593
can there be a general draw thread on /m/ or something i’m also now getting tired of coming here, hoping to read about actual milk, but only seeing advice/vent/general chat posts. especially when they’re shit like this
>>2073399 like go to google? i put your question into google and got ten results. fuck
i used to be guilty of doing it too so i get it but cmon now kek
No. 2073593>>2073617>>2074533
>>2073533….nonna….. it says "general art" thread in the title…
also why split it up when we clearly don't have enough milk, just scroll past the posts you don't care about. it's not like these threads move too fast because of the advice stuff.
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fuckkk i hate seeing literal minors have better drawing skills than me, any tips on how to improve fast? i can go on months without drawing because of lack of ideas and overall motivation
No. 2074019
>>2073880Very frankly you can't speed through learning how to make "good" art (IDK what metric we're using here). Art is something you'll do for the rest of your life, always evolving and becoming better than you were before in ways that you might not understand until you do. Those minors who have "better drawing skills" than you will eventually plateau—some sooners than others—and may not even be at the level you're thinking they're at. By that time, when you become so good at drawing that you can make figures up in your head and put them on paper (or tablet) as though they were placed right before your eyes, you'll realize you had nothing to feel ashamed of because those minors were never that good anyway—or, they are pretty good, but approach art from a different angle, and so you have no reason to compare yourself to them.
>lack of ideas and overall motivationI would start by obtaining a sketchbook and pencils/pens and drawing from life. Anything will do, although it might be more creatively stimulating to pose your subjects beforehand. Remember to view the world as an artist—you aren't drawing an apple but an entity that's made up of many constituent shapes, focusing on bringing those shapes together to create something that looks like an apple. I'm not sure how to fix the motivation part—try taking some vitamin D?
No. 2074196
>>2074183You're not missing out on much, considering the site can't even handle the load of people trying to access it right now. Plus, like
>>2073862 said, all the characters are pretty damn ugly.
No. 2074509>>2074531
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Weaboo artists have no soul or inkling of originality
No. 2074523>>2074529
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I want to draw more but i always find myself with two problems
a) dont know what to draw
b) dont know what to practice to improve
I have no idea how people can draw for hours every single day.
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If I see one more "they/them" troon dude character wearying faggy clothes and high heels on Artfight I'm gonna lose it. Pic very much related. What a waste of talent.
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>>2074531>10+ years drawing>both versions just being cheap imitations of popular styles at their respective times>10+ years newer art somehow looks worse>no actual improvement it’s just a different more boring style, you can tell because anatomy in the newer works is still off>less dynamic framing, and the guy’s eyes are lopsidedand
>Artist goes by “Minami Sakai”>actually non-Japanese, grew up in Ohio with Ghanaian immigrant parents>moved to Japan with nobody she knows>living there for over 10+ years>to make manga like picrelhttps://morenitamommy.com/minami-sakai-manga/She said here she wants Japan to have more Black representation, but later admitted she’s been avoiding including Black girls in her works because she doesn’t want to do “Here’s Japan through a foreigner’s eyes” type stories which is boring. So instead she works on the same derivative fantasy European isekaislop kek. Stop chasing Japan, it’s sad.
No. 2074851>>2075021
>>2074822I started out on tumblr first, but it was a while ago, but now I use twitter primarily. I don't use furaffinity much, but it might help to have one too. Still, twatter, as shitty it is, is the main way now to get commissions for me. Separate accounts art accs are a hell to manage, even to get one account going is hard, but good luck!
If you are planning to get furry comms try to make some furry/anthro ocs to practice and even just to demonstrate your style more, look more at furry art to copy some elements that are popular among them and ofc try to make it interesting, because there are tons of artists who are trying to earn money with furry art and it's important to stand out with something unique. Idk, it's of course quite a general advice, but hopefully it'll help you a bit. I'm all for fellow farmers getting some money!
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>>2075187She doesn’t follow me so she only gets these ideas when we talk and it’s more me talking to her than her actually wanting to be friends with me so cutting off communication won’t be hard. Though now I want to treat all fellow artists on a professional level which is distant and polite, not letting down walls.
Sorry it happened to you as well, even if it’s not common it makes me feel better to know I’m not crazy. Do you still create?
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>>2075236I’m at the same point right now. It sucks to keep everything tight lipped but I don’t like feeling like I’m being used or that I’m alone in a group.
>>2075244Perhaps. I don’t know how to do so without sounding like an ass kek. I’ve rehearsed it in my head many times.
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I felt like venting, lol
No. 2075599>>2075632
>>2075585what is the first one referencing to
you also forgot the genshin impact style clutter
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>>2075591My bad, fixed it.
>>2075599Aaah I forgot about Genshit as I don't play it. First is a ref to all the shitty, poorly-researched historical OCs.
No. 2075908>>2076051>>2076102
>>2075211Were you the one that briefly used the tag?
and followed me back ♥ I'm crypto and didn't tag but I planned to attack you and the others.
>>2075148Kek I've been in a very similar position. I think I am paranoid but at the same time on both situations someone reassured me that the other person were emulating me. One of them was someone switching from ink and cell shade to painterly suspiciously after I established myself as a painterly artist, the other time another person copied my inking style. Unfortunately you can't really claim a subject, theme or style for yourself, but I know how you feel, nona. In my case I just distanced myself and kept doing my own thing. I wonder if it's just an issue of having a smaller presence in the group too.
No. 2075935
>>2074752>10+ years newer art somehow looks worseNo, it doesn't? Proportions, perspective and details are way better. Not perfect, but overall definitely better. Slow progress is still progress.
>Artist goes by “Minami Sakai”>actually non-Japanese, grew up in Ohio with Ghanaian immigrant parentsWhile cringe and weeby, at least if she lives in Japan a Japanese pen-name is understandable to some degree, if she wants to make it on their market and not be discriminated against.
>She said here she wants Japan to have more Black representation, but later admitted she’s been avoiding including Black girls in her works because she doesn’t want to do “Here’s Japan through a foreigner’s eyes” type stories which is boring.Now that's really cringe and hypocritical.
No. 2076105>>2076232
>>2076029NTA but I don't see how that's any less related than what has been said about accounts in previous threads (the first ten were mostly personal grievances and calling Holly Brown a fat cunt kek)
>>2076051I hope no one confuses you with me, that'd be unfortunate because of my absolutely cringe as fuck character and attack folder
No. 2076144
>>2073359oooo
nonnie any advice to thrive better in graphic design? any portfolio advice?
No. 2076213>>2076275
>>2076102NTA, but one that's replied to you earlier. I was in an extremely similar situation. I openly shared my hobbies and interests that were unrelated to one another then suddenly they were her interests too. The only difference was that I actually do them and like them and she just talked about how she liked them suddenly. She was always trying to but into my convos online and it felt like she was trying to skinwalk me almost. it was uncomfortable.
i think some people don't know how to find their own identity so they wear others That's not your fault or problem
please keep creating she will never be able to keep up with you if all she does is copy
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>>2076105I mean, I'm obviously the cringiest one here. Get in line.
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I see you anon, your ass is grass now, joke's on you 'cause my favorite color is purple
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All this talk of gendies via Artfight reminds me of the fact that a lot of my mutuals would drop me like a hat if they found out I was crypto. Half of them are annoying but the other half are just regular nerdy women when I ignore or grey rock gendie discussion, it's still tiring having to watch what I say.
>>2076544ooh reading your story gave me the shivers, I've been through something but the other artist managed to gaslight me into thinking I was copying her and would constantly vaguepost moaning about how her "heart and soul~" were being leeched from her so, feeling bad I did a 180 on my art and once she started copying
that I kind of realised what she was doing and started posting only boring nature studies. She's since gone on to skin walk other artists, I think there's a lot of people like that who want to draw but either don't have the imagination and mental library or technical skills and don't want to put the work in, or both so have to find someone to mirror off.
I think in your case with the popular artist, they're more likely to get themselves in a bit of hot water if they start doing that to a particularly vindictive person, I've seen many dramas like that that negatively impact the copier.
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Whats your safest option for comissions payment? I want to use Paypal but don't feel comfortable giving randos my full name.
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>>2076965AYRT, you have to always keep in mind that men are much more angular than women. You should start by looking at male skeletons vs. female ones. A woman's hips are much wider and bowl-shaped because they're meant to carry babies. Men's hips, on the other hand, are the complete opposite: narrower, and tilted at a higher angle. Do some studies of male skeletons (ranging from quick, rough sketches to longer studies where you add shading and lighting). Then, when you feel confident that you know it well enough, move on to the muscle groups.
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>>2076831Same. Half the people giving me art this month would turn to death threats if they knew even a little what I think of gendies kek. It is kinda satisfying to think that the art I give that these people fawn over is made by an ebil terve.
Side note, for those attacking nonas in the pastures tag, are you adding any hints that you're from LC? I'm tempted, it might be a better way to find more based female artist friends, but I'm also paranoid about being exposed somehow kek.
No. 2077064>>2077084
>>2077048AYRT, yeah it does have a little sense of sneaky satisfaction when they go from "ugh JK Rowling literally is Hitler" to commenting nice things about your work.
Also I'm thinking of adding a little cow or milk carton watermark to any attacks on characters in the pastures tag. If asked about it I'll just say it's part of a challenge or something lmao.
>>2076928You don't sound jealous nona, you sound more frustrated which is perfectly fine given the situation. I'm glad you feel better after venting, it can be a bit of mindfuck to deal with sometimes
No. 2077084
>>2077048I plan to write something inconspicuous in the private message section of attacks.
>>2077064It's especially hilarious when the "terfs dni" gendie/tras follow and interact you.
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>>2077048The artfightconfessions tumblr has some pretty fucking funny rants about this.
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>>2076831>All this talk of gendies via Artfight reminds me of the fact that a lot of my mutuals would drop me like a hat if they found out I was crypto.My top 3 commissioners are a poly they/them, a TRA moid and an enby. It hurts a tiny bit knowing they'd want me dead because (checks note) I don't think children should be castrated and mutilated and that male rapists aren't women. Tho I love the fact that they keep unknowingly supporting and praising a massive
terf kek
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How do you find new artists now that twitter hid likes? i want to find artists with nice colors to study from
No. 2077430
>>2076846Make a business account on paypal, a new one, don't turn your current private one into a business one. It'll ask for a contact name, this one has to be your full name but it won't be shown on any transactions. In my case it didn't need any documents, but if it asks you for anything you can't provide just delete the account (or register your business/yourself as self-employed officially, that's what you should probably do anyway even if you make less than 1000$ a year and don't need to pay taxes (though in the US you need to start paying taxes on your self-employment income once you make more than 400$ a year)).
Ko-fi donations are "anonymous" the same way twitch donations are. On the site itself it'll show customers usernames, but inside your paypal transaction history it will still display both your names (or your business's name if you're using a business account).
If you have trouble setting up a business paypal you should try vgen. Ask mutuals if they have a code for you (just make a public post about it) or participate in their stupid little challenges. They have a payment option that'll hide your name from the commissioner, but it apparently takes a bit longer to process
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>>2077113Holy shit, of course this is a thing kek.
No. 2077485
>>2077420It’s painful to get used to, but I usually look through an artist’s following list. Usually artists will follow and interact with accounts with a similar style to them. So if you like an artist on their following list, look at that artist’s following list and so on. If you’re looking for anime art, another option is to look on Pixiv. Start with a Twitter artist you like that links Pixiv in their bio, follow and like a bunch of art, and then let Pixiv’s algorithm do its job. Your Pixiv homepage will have a lot of “recommended works” based on the artists you interact with, follow, like, bookmark, etc. You can also look through art tags, Pixiv rankings (sorted by daily, weekly, monthly), or look at an artist’s following and bookmark lists.
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Admittedly I'm having way too much fun drawing for farmers, kek. This is probably the most excited I've been for Artfight since 2020, and it probably has something with not drawing the same old sparkledogs and uggos and the fact I've been experimenting far more than usual.
I hope this becomes a yearly thing.
>>2077420I'd recommend looking at the Art You Like threads and the Westaboo art thread, lot of really good artists mixed in there.
>>2077113I've just had a quick peek at the account and man, some of the anons are real handwringing miserybones.
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>>2077524I'm real tempted to write into the tumblr and give them my "
toxic trait" (which is that I like to save the images of good art from shitty tranny artists so I can study and steal their techniques, hahahaha). Picrel. If you're a troon or you even have pronouns in your bio, your art style is fair game for me to steal and adapt.
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Explain it like Im 5 pls but
How do you study art?
Do you do just a ton of studies, copy from the artbooks, follow along something like picrel?
Idk why but I can never get myself to start studying I just get overwhelmed with how much I don't know and need to do
>>2078559I'm always jelaous of artists with such elaborate sketchbooks, mine are just pencil drawings
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>>2078616Care to share?
I have some schedules from other artist but they take up a whole day everyday and im employed
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>>2078701NTA but they're genuinely so much better skillwise and character designwise. Also it's kind of funny how a anonymous gossip site is way more supportive of each other than a gendie hugbox, pic related kek.
No. 2078832
>>2078775>>2078779That's good to know, thanks! I will try making an account later today then.
I guess I technically have a single OC, but it's just a mascot to put on my artist card when I sell stuff kek
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tips for drawing with your shoulder? i am doing the 250 box challenge and my lines are so wobbly and shitty
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>MFW The old art is the one on the left.
Why some artist do improve like shit?
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>>2079874It doesn't kek. The art on the left is clearly the new one, just look at the rest of the account. Picrel is from november 2023 and it looks nothing like the 2018 artwork. No idea where anon got that
No. 2079916>>2079968
>>2079902Not that difficult to tell if you have eyes or follow the artist. Maybe they didn't want old art displayed in their media tab.
>>2079908You should try shipping ocs with friends kek it's always more fun to work on something together
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>>2080472find male whores and draw them
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How do i improve my lines? I want to stop chicken scratching
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>>2080030Here's some tips that applied to me
>Come in with the idea that it's gonna be a fun experience interacting with people with cool art/ocs rather than treating it as a way to get free commissions.>Focus on designs that you think is fun for you to draw, this way you won't get burned if you didn't get an attack back. Likewise you're not obligated to attack people you don't feel like.>If you really want higher guarantee to get attacks then avoid low attack-high defense ratios. I saw some with like 30-60. A lot of people will mention if they're too busy or have attack priorities like friends.>Literally no one cares if you choose to avoid drawing troon shit or anything you're uncomfortable.>It's funner with friends to have revenge chains with. Makes you more visible in the front page too.
>someone forcibly troonifying my characterKek, where did you hear that happening? Just stay out of troon spaces, af circles are pretty segregated.
>Like did you get actually good art of your OCs or did you end up investing a lot of time and effort in drawing others' OCs only to receive either nothing or rushed art way below your own skill level?I'm getting good attacks, My biggest issue right now is how it's the same set of characters getting attacked kek. Also I'll call back to paying attention tp the attack quality/turnout of a person you're attacking if you really care about that.
No. 2080731>>2080743
>>2080709I either
A) Paint over the sketch
B) Duplicate the sketch (if your pen has opacity), merge both layers and clean it up by erasing.
Recently, I also found out Flash has super good pen stabilization/post-correction (probably since it works in vectors) and that's what I have been using lately for lineart kek 2007 program doing wonders…
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>>2080731Those are wonderful tips, but sadly i am working on traditional! I want to make a manga in ink, but my lines are so shaky. I dont understand how some artists can make wonderful flowing lines like pic rel without fucking up.
>>2080736thanks, i will!
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>>2080343I've seen well over 50+ artists on Artfight with this exact same style, holy shit.
No. 2081541
>>2080743Maybe this video could also be helpful, a lot of the stuff he talks about is what you'll subconsciously learn if you do exercises like
>>2080744 describes. Just google around a bit and you'll find some specific prompts. Do those daily until you notice a difference. Also study some of your favorite artists. Search for real time inking videos too, a lot of artists do it much slower than you might expect.
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>>2081711>these people seem to be dime a dozen as nobody wants to be just a hobbyist anymoreI think that also has to do with people arpund you, the second you start learning a skill everyone thinks you're gonna profit from it and that mindset gets absorbed unconsciously.
Or maybe I'm just a retard kek Everyone expected me to become an artist since I have been drawing since I was little so I thought that was the road I had to follow. Later on after high school I became a hobbyist artist and started to enjoy drawing again (I would get stressed because I was on a cycle of "I don't draw good enough -> That's the only thing I know bow to do [due to people arouns me] > I'm never gonna get a job").
Sorry for blogpost but yeah the point is that society just works like that, if you go online and see every single artist selling theie stuff, you end up thinking that's what you're supposed to do. The best art comes out from pure autism, I wish monetizing wasn't so normalized/expected in art spaces.
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>>2082076terry/tbrainrot, the horrorcow ex tranny who draws self ship art with lisa simpson. Her account got nuked and i have no idea if she resurfaced under a new name.
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why do people like this artstyle so much? unironically uglier
No. 2082124
>>2082090excessive detail in eye designs is an easy way for artists to jazz up their otherwise bland character design (easy example, generic anime). It adds 'interest' in an area that's already a natural focal point, and cheap 'personality'/expressiveness– even if one-note and locked into a very set range. It's like clown makeup kek. Plus artists love doodling eyes, this puts those hours of rigorous scribbling in margins to work.
>>2082098This too, though I've also seen this kinda aesthetic for years in some art communities/fandoms. The not-eyeshadow-but-shiny-eyelid thing is common in tumblrsexyman fanart and original designs aiming for that kind of character, for some reason. Don't quite see the appeal kek.
Didn't tearzah/her clones also do something similar?
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>>2082076For me, it's constellor/penporo, and while they’ve been mentioned in this thread in the past, the milk has been oh so plentiful in the last year or so.
>already popular and talented anime artist known for their cute boys while also being a menhera who DFE frequently at the slightest hint of drama>promare releases and she immediately shotguns the gendie sissy femboy fakeboi hypno juice. becomes a tif and changes name, pronouns and entire brand to suit it.>amass an even larger audience from drawing coomer art of her cuntboy self-insert persona that gets plastered everywhere, even on her swf main twitter.>suddenly goes on hiatus in late 2023>returns having detransitioned and now draws exclusively “curvy” naked anime girls with minimal if no backgrounds or details>art now undeniably worse in every way>old nsfw twitter gets nuked and now replaced with disgusting bottom of the barrel hetero hentai trash where she writes about painting with her boyfriends cum>turns out she hooked up with a coomer scrote artist whose been camping in her replies for several years>DFE related not only to “trans” but “gay” and “lesbian” now. become vaguely homophobic and refuse to talk about it.>tfw you desist but only because you were groomed and got dicked down by an older man with a fat fetish and breeding kink>become a stay-at-home unemployed breeder tradwife whose audience is entirely cumbrain moids who lap up every doodle that somewhat resembles a female figureShe's like if Benjamin Button was a modern day twitter artist
No. 2082151
>>2082100I miss her so bad anons. She’s actually how I found lolcow. Someone on YouTube was using a deranged profile pic of Toad from Mario barfing into a Tupperware container and I didn’t rest until I had tracked down the artist and found her thread.
Ever since then I’ve been trying to get my artcow fix elsewhere, but it’s just not the same.
No. 2082170>>2082174>>2082384
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>>2082152she's not deserving of a thread but she's still hilarious in her own right. it's like she's drawing bad on purpose because there's a certain point where laziness or lack of skill is no excuse.
No. 2082186>>2082190>>2101101>>2101121
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>>2082090>I don't know what it's calledWhat is this weird need to have a term for everything, I keep noticing it in tutorials too picrel is a random example. It's exaggerated make up or sometimes just how an artist likes to draw, what is it supposed to be called?
No. 2082240>>2082244>>2082249>>2082257>>2083915
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>>2082234This, being a TIF drawing your cuntboy OC getting fucked is cringe but being groomed by some scrote coomer into enabling his moid degeneracy is straight out depressing. Her old art was really dynamic and promising, especially the 2018-2020 era, but now it's all thrown out for the sake of drawing with Nigel's cum.
No. 2082244>>2082246>>2082249
>>2082234They are both self-indulgent, her taste simply changed. Both eras could have been influenced by other people in her life that she wanted to please. Getting brainrot from cartoon porn is bad no matter what kind kek
>>2082240Interesting how these are mostly girls when that's not how she got popular
No. 2082361>>2082369
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>>2082076pestpestpestpest
>Australian mentally ill furry TIF larping as anime boy, used to go by speelseal but DFE in early 2023>suicide by train survivor, used to show off bloody images of her amputated leg just after the operation on her instagram story and highlights as well as ED body checks>apparently disowned by her family>3/4 of her 2021-2023 was about this attempt, giving way too much information about it>went through a phase last year of only speaking in Japanese for some reason>opened a Discord server mid last year, was barely in it except to publicly berate her then boyfriend>Earlier this year her mutual twptwp travelled from Wales to the US to hang out with her TIF girlfriend, another mutual chiritrei, who draws vore and transformation shota fetish art and a corprophile>they break up after twptwp returns home, chiritrei citing that twptwp pressured her into sex while twptwp claims chiritrei was emotionally abusive>twptwp begins venting to pest about the relationship, meanwhile pest is cheating on her boyfriend with chiritrei and relaying all that information to her>twptwp finds out and makes a callout post about them, in response they make fun of twptwp and pest breaks up with her boyfriend who is apparently such a simp that he allows her to continue living with him free of charge>both pest and chiritrei are now hated in their art circle, with several large art accounts verbatim calling them evil and mentally deranged, despite everyone seemingly being fine with their unchanged behaviour before and twptwp is still vagueposting about them constantly No. 2082369
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>>2082361another one is crabsbeverage, which I think I'm going to let the art speak for itself, and yes this is one of the tamer ones. A lot of her art involves
maggot filled vaginas and things like that.
Spoiler for furry having sex with cartoon dragon
No. 2082384>>2082391
>>2082147>>2082170I think both styles are cute, I don't care about the cow in general, but the art is really cutely rendered and I appreciate the actual hips and the fact that the arms match with it. I hate people who draw thick girls but their waist is super small and their arms have no fat on them and it's basically a bimbo, but they call it
plus size, like Sonico.
No. 2082568
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From a "they" kind of profile on Artfight. Kind of surprised because the "they" is named Lana.
No. 2082585
>>2081955I feel that the pressure is more intense when they're slightly more advanced than the average person because it's like, "you spent all that time being good, so you're going to make money off of it at some point,
right?"
No. 2082894>>2082896>>2082987>>2083561>>2083906
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Whats the thing you struggle the most with? for me, it's faces. I really love detailed faces like pic rel, but mines always end up all wonky and weird. Ofcourse, it's a matter of practice and it's going to take me a while until i am good at it. Funnily enough, i always get complimented on my hands kek its like i have it all backwards.
No. 2083064>>2083131
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>>2082987the voltron and pokemon style is super ugly imo. I have always liked how yoh yoshinari draws faces and i wish he would have stuck to this style instead of generic moeshit he went for in LWA
No. 2083688
>>2083561draw more from life (both figures and environments– go out and sketch the people around you at a cafe or park or other public space like a gallery/museum [zoos are a personal favourite because there's animals and people, two birds with one stone and all that kek]), do studies of scenes from films that you enjoy/are known for their cinematography and note how and what is being communicated in them, and reading up on film and comic theory might also help you.
>learning blender but it seemed a bit daunting since I don't have the right fundamentalsI'm a 3D artist who started with 2D, and the majority of 2D theory/fundamentals are transferable to 3D (especially 3D sculpting), the main hurdle is learning the programs and using a more 'mechanical' process to create what you want. Blender is very easy to learn as it's very well supported in regards to free resources and youtube tutorials, especially compared to the industry standard programs (eg I use Maya, which was pretty hit-or-miss tutorial-wise for years in comparison lol). If you just want to use it to block out staging, using primitives or random stand-in assets should be enough (eg a desk can just be cubes of varying sizes stacked on top of each other in the rough shape if you just want to visualise perspective), and then use the camera view and camera settings to set up the scene how you want it. You don't need to fully model or sculpt everything unless you actually want to create 3D art or animation.
>3D object to map out the floor but it seems more like a crutch than anythingThis is actually a really common technique within industries like animation, both 2D and 3D, during production stages such as boarding. It's also not uncommon for concept artists to use 3D in their process, especially for things like games where they'll work on top of greybox level screenshots etc.
Artists have used mock-ups and maquettes etc since forever, it's a tool and not some hack-fraud cheater method, you're still applying your skills and knowledge to create a final product. Good luck!
No. 2083787
>>2082987>I'm so jealous of people who grew up copying pokemonMe, except I copied the actual pokemon and not the humans kek
All I drew when I was little-a teen were animals since I found them way more cute than people so now trying to learn human anatomy after so many years is being a disaster, bodies I can understand more or less, but when it comes to faces and neck/shoulders it's a complete mystery to me.
Lowkey I wish I were into furryshit during these early years since at least these stand on two legs and have a more human-ish face, I would be struggling way less now.
No. 2083809
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TRA and gendie infested Shortbox Fair is open for applications ♥
No. 2083834
>>2083808Most people who take cards do so to keep an eye on the artist and/or to buy stuff from them at a later date (no everyone carries enough money to buy every single thing they like).
I have seen artist cards that are pretty much a mini-print, they add gold stamping, pop-ups and all so that's on them if they want to turn something that is more than fine being a cute design on a cardboard into merch. No matter how they look their use is the same and people will take them anyway. If they're so angry, then give them as a purchase bonus (akin to a Thanks You card) but that defeats its purpose.
Theyre just complicating everything themselves and getting angry at randok innocent people.
No. 2083915>>2096506
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>>2082147>>2082240That's sad actually. Men really are poison, you can tell she was just a very insecure girl (in a south asian country iirc) who went down the tif pipeline and then met a moid who most likely exposed her to degenerate porn and practices and now she has adopted his shit taste because she has no personality by herself. I followed her when she was still on the old deviantart and drew her cute Orion character. Then she saw Promare and started basing her ocs and style off of it, but technically she was very nice. Then she became a full-on tif and kept drawing her "male" (aka cuntboy) sona with a sci-fi setting/story in which the "guy" would arrest people and subdue them by fucking them (porn-brained as hell) and now this… what a waste.
No. 2084058
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>>2082090I think the eyeshadow/dark/colored eyelids detail is kind of cute on simple characters, it reminds me of courage the cowardly dog because of the medium.
No. 2084079
Man Artfight is really making me jaded to all these retards. (I'm
>>2073612 lol) Glad I set those rules out 'cause it weeds out 90% of these insane people, but shit… finding a good, normal, unique artist with no brainrot is like finding a needle in a haystack.
>>2084049Flickr, lol
No. 2084323>>2084406
>>2084264I only occasionally check on her, was her comic gonna be mostly high school or not? Because if that's the case, then yeah, it's pretty funny that she has already 100% detransed Kate for the part of the story that people actually care about.
I also saw that QnA. It was noticeable to me that she always defaults to feminine pronouns for Kate except if the question itself used male pronouns or if it was directly asking about Kate's gendieness. It's so clear that she bases the way she talks about her characters on netizens' opinions lmao.
No. 2084664
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>>2084614If you search her handle on twitter followed by whatever "qweer" word like trans or gay, you can see she deleted every tweet including those words. This is probably tinfoiling but on her toyhou.se profile, she borrowed a character profile template from another user and changed the "orientation" tab to "favorite food," also nowhere does it mention certain characters are trans even though they were listed as so prior. If it isn't tots kawaii big boobie animu yuri, she baleted it.
No. 2084728>>2084771
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>>2084615Because China, because cheap consumer plastic shit. Because "minimalist" means less labor, less paying designers, less price-point cost. Why spend money on dyes when you could just sell uncolored shit and charge people 5 times as much? (This is why I like vintage crap.)
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>>2084728>tfw will never live in a cozy 70s housewhy live. At least i can make my sims and my ocs vicariously live through my autistic fantasy of livign in a 70s mcmansion
No. 2084803>>2084820>>2085353
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>>2083808I swear to god this reminded me of this tweet
Aren't most things in conventions expensive anyways? Some people aren't even being disrespectful when they take business cards. I had a friend go to a con and she wasn't able to buy everything from them but she was happy to collect the business cards she can get from the artists and shared it on her story.
No. 2084992>>2085358
>>2084615Nonna, art is just like society, fashion, beauty standards, politics, etc: all of those swing from one extreme to another, time after time. In the 1920s, women started wearing looser dresses and dropped the corset (symbolizing the new rights they had) and Art Nouveau, am flowery and complex architecture style, was bombing. Years later, in the 1930s, women were back to wearing hourglass silhouettes (the great depression also symbolizing a small fall in feminism’s wins) and Art Deco was on vogue, with very concrete and mathematical-like designs. Theres timeless examples of art going from a minimalist style to a maximalistic one, reflecting on society itself. The minimalist trends of art are probably caused by the 2000s oversatured, very colorful presence (think of Mcdonalds ads). So naturally arts tended to gravitate towards something less saturated, with beiges and stuff. We’re probably going to gravitate towards maximalism again.
No. 2085353>>2086166>>2086300
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>>2084803Did Cyarin stop drawing or is she just not posting art on twitter? It's almost been a year since her last artwork, I wanted to see her regress some more kek
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>>2084771Oh it's still doable, anon. Just gotta save up enough cash to buy mid-century modern furniture, AND pay someone to restore them (if needed). My dream is to live in a MCM house with a conversation pit.
No. 2085442
>>2085358I’m not only talking about colors.
40s - world war, hourglass silhouette is on vogue. Art deco
50s - space age, hourglass silhouette is on vogue. Minimalist architecture (midcentury)
60s, 70s - new breakthroughs in feminism, mod fashion and a new beauty standard for women: being boyishly thin. Late modernist architecture, which includes brutalism
Etc
No. 2085628>>2085631>>2085633>>2085655>>2085910
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Still can't get over Artfight. It's my first year doing it and I've come to realize it's kind of like one big psyop against women (hear me out):
1. Anytime I see a thumbnail of a beautiful woman, it's either a man or a woman with pronouns. Or a woman with her tits cut off.
2. A majority of strong/interesting female characters are butt-ugly. Like "sole of my shoe" ugly. Or they're deformed in some way to make them unappealing.
3. Any time there IS a beautiful woman design, she has to have her tits or ass out. Or she's pedobait.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy variety in character designs, but holy shit, I feel like we need a bingo card for this shit. I can't get over how many female artists on Artfight are troons or they/theming themselves out of being a woman. It's like they can't stand the idea of being a woman so they try to negate it and toe the party line. Don't they feel miserable?
No. 2085633>>2085635>>2085768
>>2085628I hate gendies and tras too but like 80% of the people I follow there are nothing like what you said lmao. Everyone's always hated girls and women, it's just this generation's version of doing that.
>>2085631Yes, there's actually an ic thread about it.
No. 2085655
>>2084771Git gud at finding estate sales and combing through Facebook sales. You can find amazing pieces for dirt cheap with time and patience.
>>2085628Performative wokeism requires the inclusion of Quasimodo in a dress, nonna. If your art isn't exclusively potato-nosed vitiligo'd wheelchair-bound hijabi FTMTFTM autistic amputee strippers holding flags and smiling, you don't get to join the cool kids club.
There are good artists in Artfight who are normal about girls and women, but they're drowned out by the tide of women with more internalized misogyny than the entirety of Reddit.
No. 2085660
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>>2085647I can't find his specific post right now but he's apparently been banned from multiple servers due to posting constantly about his fat fetish. I searched the AF server and there's literally hundreds of pages worth of his comments and he seems extremely annoying lmao. Here's an ask from that confessions blog that introduced me to him and started his meltdown.
No. 2085908
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I like Shay but I don’t like Kelsey’s art. Her stuff is really basic shit you could find on a canvas in home goods. I will say I’m impressed at how she makes a living off telling artists how to make money instead of actually making money off her art.
No. 2085998>>2086018>>2086069
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>>2085910Yeah but they're easy to ignore. Plus, I wanna draw women.
And speaking of, I was going through a specific tag just now and found a character with a cool design. Went to check the artist and make sure there weren't any pronouns, found her personal site, and found this on it. I'm gonna draw her character for sure now.
No. 2086024
>>2085639Giga based? Artfight W, etc. I actually didn't want ic moids getting too comfy in a female (yes even tifs) dominated site.
>>2085635Literally git gud a pressing the random button.
>>2085825Starting to think it's anons sourgraping. No one has a gun to your head, only a small 10% maybe cares about points andthey're so obvious because they do nearly YCH looking pieces because they produce these en masse. It's really just draw what you want and have fun the website.
No. 2086166>>2086359
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>>2085353There hasn't been an update from her or her friends/family. I suppose there's art block since she has posted about lacking inspiration and you can see the general carelessness in her work. There has been some thoughts about her being seemingly frail though. Could also just be that she wants to take a break from her art career overall, who knows.
No. 2086355>>2086373
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I know it'll just take time to get used to it and figure out a faster workflow, but I spent two hours just trying to paint a granola bar wrapper on a screen tablet
No. 2086383>>2086396>>2086410
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Picrel but I'm wondering where the "Woman disguise herself to prove to be as stronger/clever as a man" trope went. I was waiting for this book thinking it was about it, but the character of the left is "no binary". Dunno because Chira now identifies herself as "agender" or because a straight couple with a no gender comforting woman is so '90.
Angry nonna yells at cloud.
No. 2086405>>2086409>>2086410
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>>2086396Chira is amazing at doing quick sketches and cell shading art, but her art really changes when she has to make a full illustration like that cover.
No. 2086410
>>2086405she needs to work on her colors and rendering, it looks really flat in
>>2086383 imo
No. 2086414>>2086416
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>>2086412>some draw good but the subject matter is…you can describe 98% of moid art like this
No. 2086469>>2086475
>>2086442I haven't got many attacks but I'm still having fun attacking others. I keep saving more and more bookmarks and I have 3 pieces on the go because I want to draw so many characters
I'm not doing what some nonas are doing and disregarding gendies and their characters. I respect it and I love the idea of the pastures tag but apparently I have terrible taste so I end up drawing "it/theys" a lot
No. 2086497
>>2086442It's been fun and pretty productive. I've slowed down a bit because of work but I recently got some really beautiful attacks so I'm feeling reenergized! I've gotten a good amount of attacks and am feeling a little overwhelmed but I think I'll focus on drawing back for nonnies first before I work on stuff for anyone else.
>>2086470Don't sweat it
nonnie. It's supposed to be fun! Even if you only can do sketches, I'm sure they will be appreciated. But definitely post your OC so you can at least get some nice gifts, too.
No. 2086498>>2086508>>2086545
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Did she pick a bad drawing on purpose to rage bait? Girl be looking like a mahi-mahi fish with muscular sclerosis hands
No. 2086508>>2086513
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>>2086498her art is just quirky and ugly like that. Stylization and rendermaxxing over fundies like any ngmi. She has a course, too.
No. 2086513>>2086597>>2087073>>2087114
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>>2086508her course looks awful, basically you are paying to take all the soul out of your art. I fucking hate how artist in the west are encouraged to simply their art to make it cheap and easy to mass produce, it never looks good.
No. 2086597>>2087079
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>>2086513Kek there are so many older, better illustrators who can do this
No. 2086936>>2086961>>2087178>>2087964>>2087999
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Would anons be interested in a thread to post your influence charts? i would like to see everyone's favourite artists
No. 2087031>>2087115
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>>2086971NTA BUT if you're the account I think you are I think your unicorn lady is very pretty and I've been having fun drawing her.
>>2086442Been a slow poke with making my refs so I haven't posted anything yet, I have been working on drawing every farmer I see's ocs and hope to be able to post them all in a day or two.
No. 2087079
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>>2086597we have to go back
No. 2087094
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>>2086442I didn't participate this year due reasons, so seeing people enjoying it makes me happy at least.
No. 2087115>>2087166
>>2087031Maybe I'll see when you post your attack then anon!
>>2087047Impossible. You could draw a stick figure drawing of her and I would be delighted and revenge back. The month is going by so fast, I hope I'm able to attack more farmers before it's over.
No. 2087166
>>2087115>The month is going by so fastoh so true
nonny, i haven't even posted my characters yet
No. 2087178>>2087577
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>>2086936here's mine. I feel bad for putting leyendecker and rockwell next to animu trash kek
No. 2087663>>2087718
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Salty vent: I said I couldn't participate in Art Fight for personal reasons, and one of them is because one of my favorite artist blocked me out of not reason (I blocked her back). It really stained me to participate in AF in general, even if I wouldn't have never drawn her shit and expect her to draw me something back.
No. 2087725>>2087770
>>2087718Probably? Then again, I always attacked in AF but never received a revenge, so it felt kind of pointless (and no, I wasn't attacking the popular artists).
I should stop of being a bitter nonna.
No. 2087770>>2087774
>>2087725Do you have a swastika or anything terfy on your profile? Not a single revenge is crazy, I've seen what could've been some moid from ic receive one for his generic brown hair red shirt oc he had one shitty drawing of. Did you forget to upload characters?
>>2087721Not shit taste just because
you are bored of it.
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>gets called out for tracing ASK, etc
>I don’t know how to tell my dogs
kek
No. 2087999>>2088010>>2090458
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>>2086936Took me longer than i thought.
Thores Shibamoto, John Kiraly, Phoebe Herring, Leon Spilliaert, not a specific artist but landscape(mostly trees) drawings with color pencils, anime lmao, photography in general and i have learned a lot by taking photos myself, Alexei Savrasov.
No. 2088341>>2088413>>2092545
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>>2087896Nona your seething made me look up J.C. Leyendecker on danbooru to search for the clones you speak of and I found this artist I had completely forgotten about. I got so pissed when I first saw her posts some years ago because she made these very close copies without using any of that in her own artwork (top left is from march 2021, all the studies are from 2020 - march 2021). It was like she only copied his shit for clout without actually learning from it which seemed pointless and like cheating social media to me. Now I don't really care, the pieces do look nice, she was always open about it being studies and it's not like online attention means anything. Art is about having fun and if the likes on these motivated her to keep going that's fine. It's not like she was profiting off of it. So I understand the dislike you have for it but it's not that serious kek a lot of people want to emulate him because his art just looks nice
No. 2088413>>2088510
>>2088341NTA but on my case I just dislike the Leyendecker/Rockwell emulations because most of them are just bad copies of their pieces rather than an exercise of the style itself. Instead of trying to understand their art style and create something new from it they just keep copying the same tired old five or four most well known (and easier to emulate) pieces and change the characters so it's their OCs or whatever their current fandom blorbo is. It just looks lazy and unoriginal to me, I'd be a lot more receptive to it if those people were actually trying to study the style itself rather than just create an obvious copy of the artwork.
Also sorry but I personally find it pathetic when artists mimic Leyendecker's white paintsroke background while the drawing of the character itself is so smooth and digital looking. It looks so bad and to me it makes it even clearer that the person sees the art style as an aesthetic rather than a style to be studied. It's lazy.
No. 2088510>>2088527
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>>2088413Agreed, that's why I never follow artists who do that shit. All the redraw trends are so tired, how many copies of The Fallen Angel, Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan, The Kiss or Saturn Devouring his Son do we really need?
The only artist that I've seen study and develop the style is sssantine, everyone else does one or two pieces and immediately goes to back to whatever they were doing beforehand
No. 2088531
>>2088527*irrationally
Sorry kek, the salt kept me from betareading.
No. 2088905
>>2087171I drew my ocs saying silly
terf things when I first peaked. And all my fem ocs are canonically terfs btw.
No. 2088994>>2089194
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Anons whining about artfight how shit the average art is, in a site full of kids even. Are you also avoiding pastures tag because the style is not good enough for you lmao. I've looked up other artfight posts in lolcow from past threads and it's always complaining about shitty art and gendies all the way 2 years back kek.
>>2087896Then what makes you think nona's asking for the average shitty knock offs and not people who understand leyendecker and rockwell's style well?
No. 2089621
>>2089506Sounds fine. But patreon isn't just about getting the rewards, in the first place it's about supporting you. Look at the way others do it, I've seen a lot of artists make their lowest tier 1-5$ and the reward is basically a thanks. One artist I follow has multiple tiers that offer the same as the first one and the description says something like "but you want to give me more money".
>>2087935I feel for her, what she did was shitty but I'm guessing she's never gotten that much negative attention before. It's super distressing but you wouldn't understand if you haven't been in a situation like that before. I hope someone in her life can remind her that people on twitter don't matter, especially because those people will have forgotten all about it in a week or two
No. 2089964
>>2089908They don't.
>>2089512 was just a joke/mild annoyance. I probably won't even remember making this post in about a week.
No. 2090152>>2090161
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Posting this here since it's specifically about the art but the simplistic style of lore Olympus was already a bit difficult to fudge up yet still Rachel was pumping out abominations like this with a team helping her. You mean to tell me that nobody cared enough to at least make that shit look like the characters weren't all having strokes. I mean even Steven universe's inconsistent art still gave the characters symmetrical faces not something that looks like it was drawn by a child still learning fine motor functions.
I fixed the fucked up eye by cloning the good one, and still she couldn't be bothered to do that? It truly shows how it became just a money making opportunity for her. Sad how people are willing to throw their ability away just for $$$. I'm not even saying the art was some master level shit but I liked it. Only for it to turn to child's drawings by the end.
No. 2090834>>2090856
>>2087171I prefer tp stay apolitical online, so no
terf stuff. But if it's stupid fandom shit I do, I even have a bunch "Proshitters DNI!!!" people following me despite the stuff I draw being very much what they "hate" (because at the end of the day, most of these people are just virtue signalling. If the art is good they're gonna follow unless oomfie #34 notices it and tells them X artist is
problematic block and stay safe)
No. 2090858>>2091010>>2091492
i say this often but i hate twitter for posting art goddamn. i post my art and it gets maybe 2 rts and thats it. the internet is absolutely awful for artists atm
>>2086442ive never participated because i dont really have ocs that i care about.. can you request them to draw your favorite characters instead lol
No. 2090876>>2091440
>>2090856NTA but she implied she stays out of discourse? You can completely ignore discourse but still find it silly that the types who'll write 200 page Google doc call out on a woman who is slightly "
problematic" because they're jealous of her and constantly virtue signal about proshippers (fake and gay thing to be concerned about either side in the first place) and evil "terves" interacting with you positively. I have retarded mutuals who I just grey rock whenever they try to talk about retarded discourse with me and never keep up with any of it purposefully.
No. 2090890>>2091796
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>how it feels when you stop worrying about internet points, nuke all your social media accounts, and just show your art to your art teachers to get feedback so you can continue to improve.
No. 2091440
>>2090876Yeah I stay out of discourse. The average summerfag doesn't know how to read, don't mind it much kek
(Maybe she thought I get into discourse for saying words related to it despite me saying I stay apolitical, which also includes discourse to me)
No. 2091659>>2091926
>>2090920Where are the names? I must be blind lol I can’t see them in the image.
>>2090931Thanks anon
No. 2091851>>2091854>>2092195>>2092453>>2092725
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LS mark's pilot looks atrocious. This is going to be such an eyesore once it comes out. He had the audacity to shit on vivzie to then put out something this hideous and soulless.
No. 2091854>>2092453>>2092725
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>>2091851This one is so bad. Its giving me a headache. He's obsessed with adding dumb filters and effects to this crap without realizing it's making it look even cheaper.
No. 2091926>>2092010
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>>2091659They are in the post not in the image attached
No. 2092545>>2093329
>>2087935I wonder if she told her dogs the bad news already.
>>2088341To be fair master studies are essential copies. I understand Leyendecker was tumblr/twitter favorite artist and a lot of people jumped on the train for clout, but it's not different from the thousands of Mucha-like art we used to see years ago.
No. 2092904>>2092936>>2093014>>2093599
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>>2082088This is so fucking funny to me. Reminds me of Nemu. Do you know why her account got nuked?
No. 2093349
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>>2092979maybe i am being super schizo but i am almost sure this DAD user its her. Her way of coloring is so similar to terry's.
No. 2093493
>>2093430I've literally never drawn a man that wasn't attractive to me because that's a waste of time but I like various facial features. The sameface manhwa slop isn't for me but it's fine if you like it, that's all.
>>2093464What do you want them to do? They are normal people, they saw your artwork and liked some of it but didn't want to follow.
No. 2093506
>>2093329Ayrt and I agree. I just think this issue goes beyond those studies, like you mentioned. Even current fanarts are just repetitions of existing ideas. Most fanart I see are studies of stillframes, redoing photos with the characters, or just awfully similar to already existing fanart. Whenever there's an artist who stands out for the smallest reason, a million copies of it emerge.
>>2093464They liked a few pieces, but maybe not enough to follow you. It feels like you're overhinking this.
No. 2093548>>2093552
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>>2093509i wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt because i thought she was a teen, but shes in her 20s.
No. 2093611
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>>2093599you need motivation to put hours of your life into grinding fundamentals, normal people end up like
>>2093598 No. 2093628
>>2093621That’s exactly what they meant to do. SJWs or socially conscious people hide their racism. A racists will outright tell you that you’re an ugly nigger bitch or something like that, an SJW in the back of mind
thinks you’re an ugly nigger bitch but tries to find ways to beautify it and virtue signal about it in an obnoxious way where I know you just harbor the same beliefs as the racist. It grosses me out so much
No. 2093633>>2093635>>2096979
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>>2093621>>2093624>try to be a people pleaser by putting down women who want to draw pretty men>it backfires with the people you tried to suck up tolmao, meanwhile men are drawing nothing but half naked big titty women and no one gives a shit or complains about them not drawing diverse vitiligo queer fat trans women
No. 2093655>>2093659
>>2093651This is not a sign of intelligence, just muscle memory built from years of practice. Anybody can do this.
>>2093650was it covid
No. 2093658>>2093670>>2093682
>>2093616>>2093622Its rivaeri_ on twitter. I found them on pinterest and got so giddy over the fanart. But then I saw them reblogging
loli art by range murata and the smile slowly died in my face. But honestly most of their twitter is unremarkable? They seem ok overall aside from the weird shit.
No. 2093670>>2093694
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>>2093658oh, I thought the artist you were talking about was actually going to have some good art but well you know… lol
>>2093659good
No. 2093682>>2093690>>2093694
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>>2093658The lolishit made me unfollow but he was right about the porn thing, this thread is so fucking annoying kek. I'd be so fucking mad if some random entitled sounding minor on twitter told me I'm wasting my skills by drawing yaoi or whatever else I wanted to do in my own time
No. 2093694
>>2093670Sorry nonna… Its not some crazy rendermaxxed weibo art, I was just happy to see someone posting medieval art.
>>2093682I get that, people are way too entitled on twitter nowadays specially randos commenting on art. I just didn’t click and check the thread properly, just saw the “YOU ANTI ART PRUDE!” and rolled my eyes.
No. 2093757>>2093762>>2094435
File (hide): 1721191840139.png (Spoiler Image,178.55 KB, 582x818, rivaeri.png)
>>2093690I agree with your overall statement that people judge women too harshly and make excuses for scrotes.
>She didnt even reblog anything coomery from himBut in this case, she retweeted coom bait loli art from him. I like some of murata's work, like how he draws some men, but let's not excuse his degen stuff, it's pretty obvious.
No. 2093762>>2093774>>2093787
>>2093757its still retarded to judge this random female artist who rts and draws men 90% of the time just because she rt one loli drawing from murata. In your own post you are making excuses for Murata while condemning a woman who doesnt even draw that stuff, she just rt his art. Its so weird to me how people will make excuses for liking degen male artist or degen stuff made by men but then a woman draws one single
problematic piece of art and everyone jumps at them like a pack of rabid dogs.
No. 2093774>>2093976
>>2093762>just because she rt one loli drawing from murata.She retweets several of them, you should look into her profile before coming up with these assumptions. I understand the other anon not liking it, but that doesn't mean I think the same. You are implying things I've never said or thought out of my post. I actually follow rivaeri and like her art, I can dislike her retweeting his loli art and still enjoy her art, the same way I enjoy some murata's work and hate his loli coomer art. I was simply pointing out it was indeed his coomery loli bait art and not a single one. I genuinely hate this black and white thinking, I was not condemning her, on the grand scheme he is the true degen drawing that shit, I wouldn't put her in the same group as him. That's just me, maybe that anon deeply hates his coomer work and doesn't want to see it at all, I wouldn't blame her. I just ignore it and stay for her work, as I do to so many other artists. It's not realistic to expect every artist you follow to align 100% with your ideals.
No. 2093886>>2093887
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>>2093718Interesting. To me the taste in men always seemed like that of a gay man
No. 2093887>>2094794
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>>2093886baras with tit chop scars is the most feminine thing you can draw nowadays
No. 2094121>>2096996
>>2094065THANK YOU!! Will do that.
>>2094079Honestly its because people on twitter are entitled and if they see someone not retweeting palestine gore everyday they get mad.
No. 2094349
>>2094331we are getting dangerously close to "the narwhal bacons at midnight" of
terf dogwhistles here.
No. 2094398>>2095049
>>2094331the evil rabbit fairy
the elegant rockstar fox
the endearing rabbit frolicking
U can make some with radfem as well, you may even have more combinations.
No. 2094410>>2094417>>2094467>>2094483>>2094798
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Can someone please recommend me some zine creators that aren't completely politically retarded and make actual good art?
No. 2094467>>2094483
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>>2094410Try looking at the Black Fog zine, the quality is very mixed because it's made by 4channers and lainchanners but has some really lovely sections and I haven't seen any politisperging in any of the 3 volumes
No. 2094483
>>2094410Just buy doujinshi
>>2094467>4channers and lainchannersThat just convinced me to not bother with it at all.
No. 2094506>>2094624
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>>2093928k-on was never for a female audience in the first place so idk why you felt the need to keep going. Every time women resort to male tactics we just get shit on anyway, it's why men attack female workout spaces and women like Rowling.
No. 2094565>>2094566
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I swear sometimes I feel like I'm too harsh on TwistedDisaster as I still continue to listen to her streams as background noise from time to time when I'm drawing and she always manages to say something retarded. Something that really annoys the fuck outta me with her is her numerous excuses for most things in her life. She was talking about in the last few streams how she's finally gotten a cane for herself because it's hard for her to walk now because of "teehee I have a chronic illness" (Nah it couldn't be that she looks like she weights close to 200+ pounds when she's a 5'3" in height). Bitch you're 30 fucking years old, it's not "normal" to have to walk around with cane at that age. She's so in denial about her weight and her dumb ass zoomer friends just validate and indulge her in her delusion because they don't know any better since they lack actual life experience (most of her friends are 19-24). She says she's trying to eat better so she can get control of her weight but then every stream she seems to either be eating junk food or drinking sweetened coffees and I wouldn't think anything of it if she stopped making excuses.
As for her art, still looks DeviantART-tier but she swears that she knows her art is more than good (we all need confidence so I won't fault her). And then of course this newest video she put on her YouTube about "muh gender identity", another pathetic thing she's done to make herself seem more unique and interesting than she actually is. She's just a glorified spicy straight (yeah i know she says she's bi but she's never actually dated a woman LTR) but oh wait, she's also "aro-ace".
She's just silly and it wouldn't be so sad if she at least had self awareness but because she mostly hangs with zoomers, of course her retardness can't be reeled in. It's also kinda cringe how she tries to try so hard to be the 'cool old lady" by using phrases like "raw-dogging" and"dog water" kek.Like ma'am, settle down.
No. 2094599>>2094628>>2094634>>2094637>>2095136>>2095147
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Pumpkin the Gentleman is getting blasted for posting out of pocket/sexual shit around "his" underage audience again. He privated before I could see it for myself but I guess he went on a tirade about how he thought keeping his account 16+ while posting borderline porn was okay to do because of how Japanezy he is having "lived there most his life" and how that's what he's used to, along with growing up with lolicon and shotacon being normalized etc etc. literally only digging himself deeper.
This is all gonna be hilarious when he's finally outed as an American tif or something because I am not buying the fact that he's the Japanese blasian cis man he claims to be with one of the most blatantly tif artstyles in existence and the fact he literally only interacts with western fandom culture (which makes him saying he's so used to japanese age customs even funnier)
No. 2094644>>2094659>>2094662>>2094666>>2094675
File (hide): 1721261522905.png (Spoiler Image,418.48 KB, 661x928, help.PNG)
>>2094634That account is so gross kek such a disgusting artstyle. No idea what this is supposed to be either
No. 2094662
>>2094644I wasn't buying the TIF tinfoil but
>the super obvious tip and veins outlineYeahhhhh that's not a real dick
No. 2094663>>2094667
>>2094659Pandering to zoomers and engaging in parasocial relationships
No. 2094666>>2094673>>2094685>>2095045>>2096322
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>>2094644i've always hated whenever this account came up on my tl for the bullshit they get into everyday but i checked their nsfw acc out and the pinned tweet already killed me, the descriptions and drawing yourself like this for people to make fanart of lmfao that's beyong narc shit
No. 2094677>>2094751>>2094782>>2094841
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can any actual japs identify this handwriting as authentic and not google translate?
No. 2094706>>2094708>>2094817
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>>2094685because its a virginal tif who has never seen a non dildo dick larping as an hypersexual gay man.
Her feminine hands kek. She's the type to complain about white washing but her hand looks so white.
No. 2094708>>2094721>>2094737
>>2094675>>2094706The vein colour makes me feel pretty confident that this is a white woman. Very
problematic considering her weird sassy black man LARP kek. Speaking of veins, look how hard she's straining to make them pop lmao.
No. 2094722>>2094726>>2094730>>2094735>>2094941
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I hate how the male side of the internet is like
>yes bro post more cunny uooh 12yo pussy lick tummy gamer child gf mommy step on me
and the female side is
>ummm are you using denji, a grooming victim, as a reaction image while saying something sexual??? idk thats kinda pedoy sis
is there no sane side of teh internet anymore?
No. 2094737>>2094739>>2094748>>2094817>>2096646
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>>2094708And she doesn't want her sona to be shipped with white/light skinned women according to her reference. Very funny
No. 2094744
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>>2094735i would feel sad if she wasnt a cringy tif. But comparing someone to epstein just because they drew horny sfw stuff(thats lets be honest its all over tiktok anyways) is mental illness.
No. 2094795
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>>2094782Yeah it seems traced and mesh transformed, also has zero difference in line weight where you'd expect some. Picrel for comparison.
No. 2094841
>>2094677It says something to the effect of: "Swallow like a good boy/girl~". Overall, the handwriting isn't terrible but the うに of ように was a bit sloppy (most notably, an inadequately rounded う along with awkward stroke spacing for the に) and so it's not surprising that
>>2094751 nona misread it as ラレニ. You'll notice that this person writes both kanji and hiragana in the same size, whereas most people tend to write hiragana slightly smaller than the kanji. Larger size kanji allows for more strokes and it makes handwriting look nicer. I'm leaning toward this person being a weeb.
No. 2094864
>>2094566She's just in denial of her failing health. Whenever she talks about her health issues, she says that her doctor says it's normal. Her having to need a cane to haul her ass because she has back pain and mobility pain so it makes me think that she has a fat logic doctor or she's lying to make herself feel better. In another stream she said that she can't be out in the sun for too long because she has a sun allergy and sunscreen doesn't work. It feels like just an excuse so she doesn't have to go outside and take a walk. She also has breathing issues but again, it's because of her "chronic illness".
She also can't afford to eat healthier (buying healthier foods at the grocery store) because it's too expensive . It's just excuse after excuse after excuse and it's obvious that she feels justified in them because her retarded zoomer friends just go along with her and validate.
I just can't believe how delusional she is about herself and it's gonna be too late when she finally does get that wake up call like a heart attack because of her morbid obesity (which according to her doctor, she's really not that obese kek)
No. 2094941>>2094948>>2094998
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>>2094722atleast you're not on the russian art side where a open pedo artist (whos now a zoo artist) is friends with another very popular pedo and the most egregious thing they got called for is fucking tracing…and the copius amounts of self harm scars…and suicide baiting on the regular
No. 2094957>>2094960>>2094970>>2095024
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>>2094951>holyraviolii went to her profile and i cant believe this is her art now. She regressed so fucking badly, what the fuck happened. Shes charging 300 for this shit, too.
>mossacannabisisnt he korean though?
No. 2094960
File (hide): 1721287514570.png (2.98 MB, 1172x2048, holy ravioli.png)
>>2094957compared to her art from a year ago… its scary to regress this much in a year
No. 2094989>>2094990>>2095046
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>>2094973you can check the baraag proof for yourself
>>>/ot/1697604 ( im not downloading that shit)
No. 2094994>>2094995>>2094996>>2095003>>2095012>>2095015>>2095361
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>>2094990if hes posting art and studies of ACTUAL children thats referencing cp you fucking retard, he has this image in his baraag. he might not get jailed in America for this but he can in korea learn to read.
No. 2095002>>2095007
>>2094995are you a loligooner yourself that you're so defensive over this? anyone with working eyes can tell that's what's he's doing.
>>2094996yes and so does mossa
No. 2095005
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>>2094998holyravioli is a woman.
or a troon No. 2095012>>2095015
File (hide): 1721290770004.jpg (Spoiler Image,4.24 MB, 720x13164, 1694896267286.jpg)
Idk if this is what anon is referring to, but the account from where this
>>2094994 reference come from isn't mossa, it's some /ic/ dude
No. 2095015
>>2095012i checked the post and
>>2094994 is an adult woman too. Literally whats the point of making up bullshit when mossa being a lolifag is already bad enough.
No. 2095018>>2095022
>>2095008Relax summerfag.
>is on a account full of pedo pornThat's not his account.
>multiple posts are referenced from real childrenAgain, awful but doesn't make the images of real children he's referencing CP. CP is images of children /being/ sexually exploited.
>mossa himself is classifying his work as child exploitation work aka cpHe's not classifying it, he's saying Korean law /might/ classify it. And even if it is, it doesn't make the original pictures he /references/ CP. Possession of CP is another crime.
>source its a minor?Yeah? And?
Pitiful state of LC. Nobody knows how to bring actual receipts with real proof anymore. Believe me I'd like to see this guy in jail as much as the next person.
No. 2095024
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>>2094957I'm not sucking her ass or anything because I find her porn disgusting but she's working on a fully coloured comic at the moment and has barely drawn let alone finished anything besides that since late last year. (Also that's art from 2021/22) Holy Ravioli/Divquel Quee has been a personal lolcow of mine for many years and I can pretty confidently say she makes that content to get attention and to add to her edgelord persona rather than a Nemu-esque fetish, you can tell because it changes a lot from year to year- couple years ago it was necrophilia, then it was zooshit, now it's incestual period blood sex. Like she's mega retarded but to compare her to fucking mossa of all people is a bit silly
No. 2095046>>2095047>>2095075
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>>2094989I remember him retweeting a video of a fish being eaten alive, was upset about the new law in S. Korea banning dog meat and looking through that account, he drew this. Even if this guy isn't referencing CP, he should kill himself kek
No. 2095049
>>2094374>Insanely cringe ideaWhy do you think someone who hangs around lc isn't cringe kek
>It's funny you'd think someone would care enough to askYou ain't ever met a troon I hear. They salivate at the very thought of accusing a woman of transphobia. I also have HP stuff, I've been asked and had loud indirect comments about that several times by angry goblin women and greasy tims.
>>2094378>>2094398>>2094408>>2094412thanks nonas kek
No. 2095061>>2095069
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Well Brujo is certainly drawing this character as a “woman” as often as possible. I think it’s funny this character is supposed to mainly be in high school
No. 2095147>>2095301
File (hide): 1721303799853.jpg (164.59 KB, 956x751, 1000019858.jpg)
>>2094599holy larping weeb. she's 100% not Japanese and most likely not blasian either.
No. 2095301
>>2095147why did she get hate for this? i mean its literally true, dragon ball is for like 7 years olds and it has ton of degeneracy in it lol. I find it zoomers both love and hate anything more
problematic than bluey, they are walking contradictions.
No. 2095422
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>>2095375>Compared to alkemanubis upthread who draws the most AI-looking slop I've ever seenalke has been drawing like that for ages, pic rel is from 2018. AI was trained on his art. I cant stand how everything mossa draws is commshit, at least alke used to make cute pieces like this before he went full lolifag.
No. 2095490
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Artists being milky =/= not being able to ignore their art you don't like. Just because an artist (male or female) acts in a cowish manner (like pumpkin gentletif above) doesn't mean I "can't ignore what I don't like" about their art or don't find some of their art appealing. I'm sure everyone can agree that it's a gigantic shame these lolicons sometimes make actually good art.
No. 2095543>>2095546>>2095555
>>2095541Do you spend this much effort defending
victims as you do pedo artists?
No. 2095545>>2095550>>2095551
>>2095537What pisses me off is women defending moid artists when males have ostracized women for years from art spaces, implying women are even in the same monolith as men.. I would understand defending female artists, because women are not majority of perpetrators, nor are they influence enough to actually commit such things.
>>2095541Yes, I unironically believe this for men. Why do you think most serial killers are school shooters had a history of watching violent porn, or why those men had a fixation on such media? I'm not against women consuming such media, because unlike men, they're not the ones committing such things, are they? They're not the ones who increase domestic abuse when their sports team lose, men are. I would shun any male who watches such things. Men who have a fixation on gore are to be ostracized. I will scrotefoil, because it is obvious men and women are different when it comes to this.
No. 2095555
>>2095543What
victims? You mean the cartoon characters in the drawings? Last time I checked, pixels on a screen don't have the ability to form thoughts or communicate.
No. 2095559>>2095566
>>2095550Yes, I think we should ban all forms of media for men. I think they should be born in jail and prove their way out. Retard, only a male would get offended by what I said, because I'm not criticizing women, nor would I even agree with banning any media for them, because they're not the ones committing crimes. Let me guess, you think a man watching a movie like siberian film is fine because he just has an edgy taste? Or are you going to be deliberately obtuse and act like men and women are the same when they consume media? There's a reason why men are rape apes and why women aren't. I'm simply stating that men are more prone to being impulsive, women would not act on a whim based on what they consume. Im sure your beloved male artists like Andy Warhol would never do anything harmful to other women/girls.
>>2095551No, not that specifically, but I meant defending male consuming such things. I'm going to scrotefoil, because all my points about the consumption of porn leading to sexual aggression isn't being answered, lol.
No. 2095562
>>2095525aaah, the "you choose to be offended!!1" argument
yes yes, don't speak out on things you don't like, don't notice behavioral patterns, especially the ones regarding men
last time i saw this take it was coming from a moid so…
No. 2095574
>>2095509Laws aren't permanent, new ones get made or altered. Being racist and misogynistic is actually a crime where I live, so what's your logic? People can only complain about things that are considered crimes? How do you think they came up with those laws?
>>2095525Kek the irony of infighting and asking this.
No. 2095576>>2095583
>>2095566i fucking can't, as if lolifags aren't hoarding real life cp
paraphilias only become worse over time, lolishit is literally entry level pedophilia for scrotes
No. 2095588>>2095591
>>2095571Let me make this clear, there's a distinct difference between say, a man heavily obsessed with gore or children's cartoons, and a woman obsessed with that. If a woman told me she liked the film, siberian film, I would think she's just an edgelord, or maybe she sees something in it that I don't. She could tell me she's obsessed with ciel from black butler, and I would not give a fuck. A man tells me he loves siberian film, and I automatically know he goes out his way to be some form of sex pest, he has this predisposition to already see women in such a way, he seeks joy in it. I automatically assume he has a paraphilia, or he tells me he is obsessed with anime like sakura card captor. Women like that show because it reminds them of their youth, men like it because they fetishize it and get off to it. Don't be so fucking retarded.
>>2095579The drawing has an audience, and it is meant to profit off of mentally ill men, it is meant to create more mentally ill men. I have already shown how media affects men. Do you think the legalization of prostitution increases or decreases sex trafficking? I want to hear your answer for this, because I need to make a point.
>>2095583Yes.
No. 2095594>>2095603
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>>2095591This is how I know you're a male or an NLOG. Where the fuck did I say women do not commit crimes whatsoever? I said men take up majority of it and have low impulse control.Men literally make up 98% of sexual violent rates, you imbecile.
No. 2095602
>>2095583since when is alcohol, tobacco and marijuana a substitute for hard drugs? no one jerks off to lolis without being a pedophile
>>2095589your idea of a censorship-free paradise gives leeway to pedos
(derailing) No. 2095790>>2095801
>>2095471I agree with this, they pull scrotefoiling out of their asses when they have no more
valid arguments.
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These people are so close to becoming self-aware kek
No. 2096020>>2096070
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For anyone here who's a concept artist, I have a question (from a fellow concept artist): do you HAVE to post shit on social media to get freelance work or hired by studios? I really despise it and only just post my work on ArtStation.
No. 2096086>>2096126>>2096129>>2096130>>2096164>>2096219>>2096286>>2096404
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im not a native japanese speaker so correct me if im wrong here but
pumpkin claims to have been born or at least grew up in japan but his japanese here doesnt read like a native speaker? Japanese is a language that often omits a lot of things and adding the "anata" in the second sentence is something I'm pretty sure a lot of native speakers often says should be avoided. I could be wrong though
>>2094634 No. 2096283
>>2096122>womanhood has you experience a negative incident with a man>recognizes male-patterned behavior>NO IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HIM AS A PERSON NOT HIS GENETIC SUBHUMAN NATURE!!Humans love to project these natural ills on to some imaginary abstract idea like “
toxic masculinity” that can be reformed and healed, they approach males like therapy, education, workplace, everyone is equally capable of humanity that they have to work towards. It does nothing to fully address the issue. Anyways her japanese larp is retarded and a bad attempt for attention because there’s plenty of japanese people on twitter who will call you out on your shit. She’s going to run out of larps soon
No. 2096322
>>2096164> I always thought he had a very signature ugly gay moid drawing style and overtly horny way of talking to the point I was pretty surprised that this thread is suspecting him of being a TIF.She draws like she's never seen a penis in her life. Look at this
>>2094666 and tell me an actual moid drew that.
No. 2096404>>2096440>>2096584>>2096621
>>2096086>>2096181yeah that 何んだっペ has nothing to do with dialect. the hiragana u looking like a ra in that shitty handwriting pic made me question her, but this tweet solidifies that she not only isnt japanese, she probably doesn't even speak n5 level japanese kek. how do her followers fall for this?
>それをするつもりなら、それを正しくやれなignoring the blatantly obvious shit, just the useless repeating of sore here is a dead giveaway. i thought larping as japanese with shit-tier japanese was a dying art so i hope she keeps going kek
No. 2096429>>2096957
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Are you girls really in the pastures tag on artfight?? Finally a reason for me to join that crap, i'm gonna draw all of you.
No. 2096436>>2096442>>2096446>>2096496>>2096500
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i feel so sad when westoids troll nice japanese artists like this
No. 2096444
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>>2096442af cf can actually draw hot men
No. 2096484>>2096487
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is there a reason as to why hands are so fucking hard to draw compared to everything else?
No. 2096490>>2096493>>2096495>>2096502
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>>2082147This post felt like cold water down my spine. I de-trooned a while ago, joined a new fandom, started talking to (and eventually flirting with) some gutter-level degenerate coomer, started over-sexualising myself, stopping drawing yaoi and started drawing curvy coomer female characters until I snapped out of it and randomly deleted one day without looking back since. I had no idea this pipeline even existed for other female artists, but I can confidently say that it’s predominantly a low self-esteem issue. As an old fan of penporo, I hope she can muster the strength to pull free of this rabbit hole.
No. 2096506>>2096511>>2096841>>2097060
>>2084288i think he does have an influence over what she draws tho, if what
>>2083915 nonnie says is right, maybe she met a fellow SA scrote that's she's set to get arranged-married to and he could only tolerate her having an art account with cute girls only and no gay shit.
No. 2096541>>2096545>>2096547>>2096548>>2096551>>2096557
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>>2096462That pumpkin bitch also made this response to the same woman venting about feeling insecure over her body. Literally proving the point that men don't care about anything but sex kek
No. 2096565>>2096566>>2096572>>2096574
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>>2096550Their accounts are both private and I haven't seen any screenshots with her responses but if you look up their names some people have drawn fanart of them together. I'm guessing they were at least friendly publically
>>2096557Every pumpkin interaction is super gross, I have no idea how this shit got likes at all
No. 2096574>>2096578
>>2096565Honestly I have a feeling pump's fanbase is made up of three types of women.
1. Attention starved minors
2. Attention starved adults with or without a fetish for fat feminized men
3. Women who just kinda got sucked into his friend circle and go along with it
No. 2096578>>2096582
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>>2096574You're probably right
No. 2096582
>>2096578unironically more skilled than anything pump has ever drawn, how are you getting outclassed by the toddlers in your fanbase
I'm almost surprised there wasn't a big stink about people drawing the oc as a woman or as a skinny person instead of a tru and honest japanese bara man!1!!
No. 2096584>>2096601>>2096626
>>2096404Kek and I thought zoomers hated corny shit
No. 2096601>>2096627>>2096996>>2097387
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>>2096584Yeah I'm fully convinced this is a larp, between corny stuff like this, using it as a cape for controversy, and doing a really poor job at the language, I don't think pump has a speck of japanese dna. Or best case scenario, is just westernized beyond belief and making little effort to actually connect with japan outside of what gets internet
POC points.
Gonna derail a little here, but honestly I find these types of larpers really sad. A lot of them are Asian/Arab in my experience, (if pumpkin is really destinytomoon, she's mexican if my memory serves me right) so it's not like they have no culture and need to fill the void, they just find theirs inferior for one reason or the other. Picrel is some really beautiful iraqi traditional clothing.
No. 2096623>>2096658
>>2096621Honestly I really want her to be outed if that's the case, but I have no idea how they'd even compile the proof for that unless she says or does something that no doubt links her back to DTM.
But based on the 'eye reveal' I don't think DTM had green eyes or that skintone. I have some doubts.
No. 2096626>>2097032
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>>2096584men arent capable of this type of cringe, is too feminine brained
No. 2096627>>2096630>>2096636
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>>2096601at least she is making more effort in her larp than puppychan
No. 2096636>>2096640
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>>2096627KEK the short-lived puppychan larp, I remember it like yesterday. I genuinely have no idea how she thought she'd get away with that while making ZERO changes to her style. Artcows were simply more openly looney back then.
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>>2096640nowadays she's on tumblr as wolfertinger666, drawing her tru and honest trans man oc named salem. Still a total autismo.
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>>2096643samefag, more autism
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>>2096653oh yeah, totally.
I also forgot to mention that salem is her self-insert.
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on the wolfertinger post, what happened to kiwifarms and lolcow being the 'muh evil nazi site'?
No. 2096685>>2096687>>2096688>>2096695>>2096709>>2096711>>2096715
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Stole this from the other farms. Our blasian bara cis gay moid everyone
No. 2096692>>2096693>>2096697>>2096709
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>>2096688Is she really destinytomoon? Looking at the latter's art, pumpkin's art seems comparatively much worse, especially when it comes to her line weights. I haven't seen a pumpkin drawing with such clean lines.
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This is the stupidest drama I've ever seen kek
No. 2096711>>2096713
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>>2096685Nothing says ‘manly’ like a female breast, am I right, fellas?
No. 2096713>>2096750
>>2096711Her larp is lacking when it comes to real-life photos. Any self-respecting TIF knows the two bras trick.
Also, her 'dick pics' were kek-worthy, does anyone have the one where she used a banana?
No. 2096715>>2096719
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>>2096685She didn't even try to change the design of the pumpkin which is a clear copy of the pumpkin nightmare manga's helmet.
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>>2096709Pumpkin apparently has a black cousin, which there is photographic evidence of tied to a pretty convincing digital footprint (info from the other farms so take with a heaping grain of salt). DTM has said she has a Jewish cousin but never said she had a black one so unless she never brought up them up to use as a future larp later I kind of doubt they're the same person on top of physical differences (which one of those could just be a tan to be fair)
Pic unrelated, more Japanese larping and attempt at a grooming larp? The very stilted and bad Japanese translates to "Grandpa why am I wearing girl's clothes?"
No. 2096726>>2096727>>2097135
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Moral of the story: Don't be a retard because twitter will get you someday, no matter how much zoomer lingo you use.
No. 2096727
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>>2096726samefag, we did get one good thing from this
No. 2096730
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>>2096723her larp is so retarded, lolicon has nothing to do with a characters age. Konata is a high schooler and shes a loli, shinobu is a loli and shes a 1000 year old vampire, pic rel is a loli and shes canonically 25.
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nonnas… Is twitter thinking what we're thinking
No. 2096739>>2096747>>2096748>>2097070
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Peep those manly proportions
No. 2096744>>2096751
>>2096735We’ve already clocked her as being a TIF, so if she was really abused by being forced to wear “girl’s clothes” then it would only make sense if she were a boy and her grandpa had a crossdressing kink(?). Otherwise, it’s just standard school uniform for elementary girls in Japan, and makes absolutely no sense as an
abusive situation. Another blatant lie.
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>>2096713Here's the banana pic
No. 2096751>>2096757
>>2096744If she is an abuse
victim then it makes her tweets in
>>2096122 even more retarded than before kek
No. 2096757
>>2096751I once spoke to a TIF who had been a child
victim of SA by her uncle and she was also a massive male apologist. I think it’s a trauma response. If they can successfully create a fantasy version of men in their head, a version that is pure and perfect, then they won’t have to confront their own real life experiences. Trooning out then allows them to escape their own body (which has been, in their mind, ‘tainted’ by the SA) and ascend into this fantasy for themselves. It’s genuinely tragic to watch. As for pumpkin, who knows… who knows.
No. 2096763>>2097104
>>2096723god i love this, i missed weabs with bad japanese
>i grew up in japan>cant write 何>着ている instead of the shorter form a child is more likely to say with family (着てる)>"why am i wearing girl clothes" instead of "why do i HAVE to wear girl clothes" because she doesn't even know the basic nai to ikenai kekmaybe im autistic but "why am i wearing girl clothes" sounds so funny in that stilted japanese, its almost implying she just woke up wearing a female uniform. like she had no part in the process of dressing up, it just materialized on her kek
with everything being "appropriation" these days a lot of weab race fakers steer off of trying to actually use japanese ,so they're less fun. i love this cow because her larp has just enough effort to make it funny but not enough to actually learn the fucking language. i hope zoomers dont chase her offline, like
>>2096762 said actual male artists don't get this much shit
No. 2096781>>2096785
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>>2096776I wasn't following the account so I didn't see it myself but so many people complain about pumpkin making an abundance of corny vent comics. I don't think blocking and ignoring was ever an option for this one
No. 2096841>>2097042
>>2096506>maybe she met a fellow SA scrote that's she's set to get arranged-married to and he could only tolerate her having an art account with cute girls only and no gay shit.There's no reason to assume she's getting manipulated into drawing things she doesn't want to just because she got into a new relationship. People change over time and maybe the things that used to interest her just don't anymore, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy.
>samefag, he's not SA, but i think she's still fixing to get an arranged marriage out of himHow is this an arranged marriage if she's trying to get engaged? That makes no sense.
No. 2096872>>2096904>>2097063
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I can't help but feel sorry for her.
No. 2096873>>2096878>>2096996
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>>2082076null_bis/deadspacedog/pgp is my personal cow too
No. 2096890>>2096960
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might be tinfoiling but do you nonnas think archon of flesh (that tif that really likes w40k twinks) might end up the same as develv?? their styles are already kind of similar, and both have a weird fixation with twinks, and now archon is getting into historical shit like develv. i'm calling it now, she's gonna start drawing eunuchs soon
No. 2096957
>>2096429There are currently 9 people who have characters under the tag.
t. Someone who has an Art Fight account but is not participating this year
No. 2096960>>2097011
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>>2096890as someone who's into the whole history fanart/shipping,stuff a lot of ppl in the fandom are pretty wack. sometimes it's in a good way and sometimes it's straight up basket cases, but either way she'll ptobably fit in. it's a pretty accepting fandom.
No. 2096979>>2096989>>2097118>>2097245
>>2093633Not to A-log but I hate this degenerate pornrotted scrote, I'm so tired of everyone praising him as some sort of god when he can only draw women from porn, and
I was so happy when I heard he died a few years ago. Rest in piss.>>2093635>>2093639kek agreed
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>>2096979I really didn't like him either. His sketchbooks had bestiality and other porn-induced brainrot. His one gimmick was being able to draw well from memory but those drawings just came off as a bunch of meaningless noise to me with annoying porn shit thrown in. There was nothing meaningful or memorable about his work. Overrated gimmick artist that braindead normies love.
Also, I'm reminded of this illustration that pisses me off with how utterly gay it is.
No. 2096996>>2097009
>>2094121>>2094079it seems insensitive to the people who were murdered that people are using photos of those war crimes as shock content on twitter to make others feel bad. I don't like it.
>>2096601blog
this is true, I was a self hating diaspora weeb for awhile before realizing that it's fucked up to idealize and obsess over a culture cartoons of half-naked 14 year old girls made for basement dwellers. I know there's more to Japanese culture but modern Japanese media and culture is 99% consoomershit and coomershit at this point. I know a lot of SEAsians who idealize Japan and feel like "inferior" asians and it's so sad.
>>2096873wait i thought this fucker was a TiM. I still don't believe it's a female without pics.
>>2096989kek of course it's all scrotoid "artists" in the picture. how egotistical and narcissistic to think he'd ever be even close to the level of most of these guys with his second-tier wankbait.
No. 2097009
>>2096989who is that asian dude with the andy warhol hair?
>>2096996>how egotistical and narcissistic to think he'd ever be even close to the level of most of these guysthis was made by someone else after his death btw
No. 2097011>>2097059
>>2096960I’m also into history shipping and by all measures, this ‘archon’ person AYRT posted seems completely tame in comparison to everything I’ve seen kek
>>2096989As someone who was inspired by his work (shock, horror), this would be a lovely image if it were something like the artists sending him off into the light with a standing ovation. But instead, you have Da Vinci studying from him because…? The only redeeming factor here is that half these are artists were also coomers and creeps, kek. And it’s not the ones you might think.
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1/2
sorry but if i found out a "friend" from a long time ago made vent art about my mental health issues and and drew my sh without my knowledge i would be pissed
No. 2097032>>2097062
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>>2096626also the panel after this, It's such a girly idea of "angst"
No. 2097059
forgot to sage oops
>>2097011>this would be a lovely image if it were something like the artists sending him off into the light with a standing ovationno it wouldn't because he's a generic degenerate coomer moid who contributed nothing unique, new, or creative to the art world.
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i just had the most surreal experience ever on a discord art server where we were discussing shading and this moid started talking about shadman and his shading being fascianting or some crazy crap i genuinely cant believe he thought SHADMAN was a good refrence
No. 2097098>>2097100
>>2097094Ew. Out of every artist out there, shadman? His art is mediocre even if you just look at it technically and ignore his nasty pedo shit.
Knowing discord, this guy didn't get called out, did he?
>>2096736I'm so sorry nonna
No. 2097101
>>2097100I never heard anything about heroin, but his most recent arrest was october 2021 for assault with a deadly weapon.
I believe he was also expelled from his art school way before that, and investigated by hollywood. I feel no sympathy for him, very deserved and may every edgy coom artist meet the same fate.
No. 2097104>>2097109>>2097121
>>2096763Honestly I'm pretty sure pumpkin grew up in Japan during childhood but migrated overseas early on which would explain the immature manner of speech and awkward yet correct grammar, and blasian ethnicity in Japan is pretty common for military families serving at an American base in Japan for a limited time. I don't think it's a racefaker because there have been a lot of such cases like what I described and I know some personally, but there's a high probability that it's a TIF.
>>2096762Yeah this thread whiteknighted Mossa tooth and nail but are giving her 400 replies worth of shit over cringe vent comics kek
No. 2097109>>2097110>>2097142
>>2097104The reason moids get less shit is simply because they care less. Female and TIF artist are more likely to feed the mob, thus producing more to kek at. With that being said, we should trash moid artists more regardless.
>>2097105Right? Either a troll or just genuinely tasteless and trying to fit in with art folks. You can get moids to like anything with the lowest effort rendering.
No. 2097118>>2097123
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>>2096979>>2096989i really like kjg, he's one of those artists i look into when i need a shot of inspiration. Most artists just draw one thing, so seeing someone being able to draw very complex things on a whim is insanely encouraging and inspiring. He's a coomer, but so is every other male artist on earth. His tutorials are also really good.
No. 2097123>>2097124>>2097129
>>2097110Well… Yeah. The only substantial milk he produces is gross lolishit, and you have no idea how many arguments can be made over the 'muh fiction.'
But I haven't seen anyone itt who actually likes him? Just arguing on the basis of whether he can be jailed or not. Maybe I'm being optimistic and just misunderstanding.
>>2097118>He's a coomer…He draws lolishit porn, doesn't he. Well, time to screenshot picrel and forget about him forever.
No. 2097129>>2097130>>2097134>>2097137>>2097184
>>2097123>Graphic loli porn is considered less offensive than some TIF drawing angsty vent comicsThe state of lolcow everyone. People agree that women are judged upon harsher standards than degenerate men yet enforce it themselves here all the time to the point they just shrug at a pedo moid but spend hours upon hours investigating some retarded could-be-troon for cringe crimes.
>>2097124He draws little girls being brutally raped and violated with bloodied noses and all, it's all on his baraag account (baraag.net/@cannibalism).
No. 2097134>>2097140
>>2097124Sorry nonna. Atp I just expect them to. Still gross but whatevs.
>>2097129I'm not defending him, but not everyone wants to break down the newest child blowjob porn and thoroughly analyze it every single time. He's disgusting but there's nothing new to discuss about him, except for whatever other shit he rightfully gets in his real life.
No. 2097135>>2097138>>2097318
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>>2096726It’s been a while since this thread had this level of drama
No. 2097142>>2097152>>2097184
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>>2096542nayrt but any advice for climbing out of that rabbit hole? I've been drawing cheesecake for a good chunk of my life, but I always had ideas for drawing cute men that never become a reality. I either give up or get disappointed when they don't pan out the same as how I envisioned it because I'm so used to drawing female bodies that it doesn't seem natural to me. Wished it wasn't, but just as I'm good with headshots, I'm just too good at drawing women to deal with drawing men worse.
>>2097109>You can get moids to like anything with the lowest effort rendering.so if I were to appeal to a female audience, I should draw like pic rel? From what I've seen, most male artists who aren't professionals don't focus on making objectively good art, while women tend to. you're more likely to see women drawing pieces worthy of being hung in a cathedral while men draw the artistic equivalent of shit on the wall. This is all generalization of course.
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We've already talked about mossa and after a certain amount of time discussing him, it gets really depressing and agitating really quickly. Yes what he draws is fucked up but it's awful wallowing in that misery caused by the fact that nothing has or likely will be done against him and any infight about lolishit always ends up being the most horrible thing to be a bystander to, let alone being involved in. This isn't moralcow.com, this isn't callout.com, let us make fun of amputee fetishists and retarded larping TIFs. That's been what the thread is for since the very beginning.
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TIF had a mental breakdown and didn't give me the art I paid for. It was over Discord and I didn't see her Insta profile until it was too late. I just wanted a drawing of my cat kek
No. 2097180>>2097183>>2097188
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>>2097177Oh sweetie, just log a complaint with PayPal or Stripe or whatever and draw your cat yourself because this quality is not worth more than 5$
No. 2097183>>2097188
>>2097168I prefer to leave the doxxing to the other farms. And even with a full doxx and reports and all, it's not daily you see something actually come of it. Disheartening, best you can do is pray that hell is real and waiting.
>>2097177Do you know anything about the situation of her bailing nonna?
>>2097180>full time artist/designerGet out of your parent's house.
No. 2097184
>>2097142you don't havedraw like the old masters kek, there's plenty of female artists with a big following that draw ugly tumblr shit. but i suppose female audiences pay more attention to the content. some want to see sjw shit, some want to see meaningful imagery, some wnat their fave pairing etc. whereas moids are mostly content with ooga booga big booba.
>>2097155>>2097129this is a place for laughing at retards not for moral outrage. pumpkin is a retard with a cringe persona who makes shitty art and it's fun to mock her. that's what this thread is for.
of course there are disgusting coomers out there but they aren't that much fun to discuss, once we've established how creepy they are, they get boring and repetitive.
we're not here to do callouts we're here to point and laugh. don't be a killjoy.
>>2097177not your personal army, furfag
No. 2097188>>2097190
>>2097180>>2097181My refund came, don't worry nonas
>>2097183Just another case of being ghosted randomly before the sketch is completed
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>>2097177Went to her carrd. Is it normal for artists to have blacklists now?
No. 2097208
>>2097204yes it is, the names are usually taken from callout posts
to be honest if those people ever approached you, you can just ignore them, so I don't see the point
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>>2097204samefag and sorry for the earlier doublepost but I find this ridiculous. Surely I'm not the only one?
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>>2097211once again smaefag, you really should go to this carrd anons… huh??? Why???
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>>2097124>hes just a run of the mill coomer into women dressing sluttyyeah, no. also spoiler for his graphic bestiality drawing.
No. 2097238
>>2097211>>2097216I feel like this artist has seen popular furry accounts talk (or whinge) about these things and thinks they apply to her entry-level art and cheapo commissions too. I can kinda understand big artists getting shitty over people making oc donut steals out of their own oc donut steals (or closed species/adopts/whatever) since they're popular enough for it to actually happen, and it waters down their 'brand' and ability to charge prestige prices, but I doubt this artist has to contend with much of that kek
>>2097224>graphictbh you had me expecting way worse. still gross, of course.
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>>2097233>miss jisu is a way better artistI don't care for Kim Jung Gi but anon…
No. 2097244>>2097626>>2097651
>>2097155a french female artist was called racist for drawing asian girls a lot a few years ago, she ignored it and people moved on. It's time for anglo women artist to stop playing along with these games. If they ignore it like men do, they are left alone.
I agree mossa is a pedo, but what else is there to say? You think he's gonna stop? He got reported before and authorities don't care for drawn cp, especially in asia.
No. 2097245>>2097248>>2097251
>>2096979I agree with his dick sucking fans that he has good technical skill but his work is ruined by the sheer amount of degeneracy it has. I remember watching an interview with him where he whined that his editors for one of his sketchbooks didn't let him just share back to back coom images in it. He also made a point of saying he masturbates a lot(why tf would anyone want to know this) and apparently left to "find himself" and abandoned his wife and daughter for awhile.
Or I may be misremembering him with some other Korean artist His brain dead male fans defended this shit.
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>>2097254all men are like that tbh, i dont think there is a single moid who isnt a coomer. I feel worse for the wife of chris sanders because hes fetishizes asian women while his wife is white.
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>>2096989>half these are artists were also coomers and creeps, kek. And it’s not the ones you might think.Which ones? I think I’ve heard about Salvador Dalí being a weird fetishist
>>2097022You realize you’re on lolcow, right? If someone does something weird in public, other people are free to talk about it
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>>2097273 back after reading more about Dalí. How did this guy not become a serial killer
https://www.surrealists.co.uk/dali.php No. 2097312>>2097325>>2099603
Slightly related to ongoing topics, does anyone else struggle with having a very "asexual" brain so you can't spot coomer shit as easily? I'm sure it's at least partly if not directly related to me being on the spectrum.
Like if I see
>>2097224 I'm repulsed to my gut, it's disgusting and I'd happily see the man who drew it castrated. But if it's a cartoon girl in a bikini such as
>>2097260 I genuinely just see it as "cute", it's like my brain can't register that men would even see a cute cartoon as sexual (I guess because I don't see it that way myself). She could have been fully clothed and it would have looked the same to me. It makes me uncomfortable, because it feels like I won't always know when men around me are being disgusting because I can't see it…
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>>2097135it's hilarious how she keeps bringing up 'muh japanese norms' to defend herself
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>>2097306…Will I get crucified if I post tumblr fandomfags? I mostly avoid twitter artists.
No. 2097325>>2097464
>>2097312I used to think those were cute, but once you know that in the end, the artist views women as boobs, hips and tiny waist, you notice that it's indeed just coomer shit. It's easier to notice on deviantart with stuff like knee/foot fetishizers, the more detailed or emphasized a part is, the more of a fetish it is for the artist, specially a moid "artist".
Which is why you see anons feeling disgusted while looking at character designs with detailed bellybuttons or the most retarded clothing designs that always shows armpits or strangled thighs.
Like, part of how you can stop having an ""asexual"" brain is researching or analyzing instead of just looking at the picture and just thinking it's cute.
No. 2097348>>2097355>>2097376>>2097399>>2097436
>>2097329Out of curiosity what kind of tags do you tend to look for or how do you happen to find these oc artists? I mainly try to find them through fanart but it would seem almost impossible to find cool ocs via the current tagging system.
Also, how is tumblr like? I'm kind of scared of the people there despite posting on and off for a few years. I see some people that build a genuinely caring and interesting community with older women but I can't ever shake off the feeling that I'm wading through a minefield on tumblr specifically. Maybe this is all social media these days it just sucks and makes me not want to do shit. I wish I cared less about things like community and fandom.
No. 2097359
>>2097155Jesus christ, it has nothing to do with hating women, at least not in this instance. And it’s highly unlikely it’s the same people defending Mossa and shitting on Pumpkin. Go look at the other farms, all their main cows are men and all the posters are other men shitting on them and ripping them to shreds. Many of the popular cows on here (Jill, Shay, most of /pt/, etc) have completely dead threads on there because their moid fanbase doesn’t give a fuck. They even have female cows they love shitting on nobody gives a fuck about here because their fanbases are men. Hell there are even male cows on here nobody cares about on there, the Buzzfeed cows thread has been inactive since 2022 while the one here still routinely gets posts, because Buzzfeed is targeted towards women.
It makes sense women care about cows in female communities (and vice versa). Different cows attract different demographics. Women are going to shit on retarded tumblrites because their fanbase is mostly other women who love the tumblr virtue signalling stupidity/handmaidens. Likewise men are going to shit on gambling streamers because their fanbase is mostly other retarded men who like watching those streams and use thise platforms.
More than likely it’s the moids from /ic/ who made their way over here and female artists who run in coomer circles defending Mossa. And it’s either other tifs/ex tumblr morons shitting on Pumpkin. Also her art is absolutely fucking awful, which makes it funnier/easier to shit on her. If she drew like Mossa people would be more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, sucks if you’re bad at art but that’s what it is.
And look at the other artists who have been cancelled by twitter morons in the past, that one Japanese woman who drew anime Native Americans got nothing but praise and sympathy on here. Even Mgong gets some shit but she also gets a ton of praise here. If it was about hating women anons would parrot the same shit on twitter on here, but they don’t.
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>>2097355I really love libbyframe. Her character designs are fun and cute and she also does beautiful floral illustrations. She made refs for her band oc's (seen in this pic) and none of them have pronouns listed as well, which is rare and pretty cool. She just seems like a normie artist and I like her.
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>>2097348nta but I find original content on tumblr (and other sites like artstation) by searching for subject matter or going into tags that interest me and digging around until I find a blog I like (don't like a lot of reblogging or random chatter posting, and I can ignore gendie stuff if it's limited to the bio and the stray post where the user remembers she's a speshul flavour of girl for five minutes of attention then goes back to being normal). More general searches/tags you could try is simple stuff like 'my ocs' or 'original character/story' or 'worldbuilding'. Sorry, it's hard to be more helpful without knowing what exactly you're after.
tumblr's really not scary either, the worst thing that's ever happened to my stuff was some weirdo started kinning one of my OCs kek, but most of the time it's pretty chill (if a little lonely while you're trying to get your feet on there and have no eyes on your work).
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>>2097348>>2097376I do pretty much what other anon said. Not that there are many other ways with tumblr.
I'm not sure if you'd get any merit out of making a new account where you only follow art tags and art accounts. You might find normal artists on your feed this way but I also feel like you'd either get stuck with the same 3 artists or keep running into gendershit and slop. I haven't properly tried though. Neither have I tried only consuming content on the other side of the spectrum (
TERF blogs and such) and seeing what I end up with, but, might turn out well?? I don't think you'd end up with so much art.
You shouldn't be scared of tumblr- even if someone did have a HUGE grudge against you, (unlikely this will really happen) callout posts have virtually no reach compared to any other platform.
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>>2097355I like zakuromancy's style. Gives off a dark shoujo vibe
No. 2097464>>2097492>>2097494>>2097495>>2097496
>>2097325>Like, part of how you can stop having an ""asexual"" brain is researching or analyzing instead of just looking at the picture and just thinking it's cute.How do I know how/when to do that? The example of
>>2097260 is a bit easier because at least I know less clothes often = coom. But when it's something like
>>2097374 I struggle to see if it's coom or not. They also have thin proportions and short skirts and such but I again just see it as cute. Anon did say this was made by a female so that should make it "safe" but I still never really know.
I feel like too often when I show a friend something they say it's "lolibait/furrybait/somethingbait" and every time I get so disappointed in myself for not spotting it at all. Like if I sent the fairy pic they'd end up saying it's "obviously some guy with a fairy fetish" how would I have known that, what's wrong with me that I don't see it?! Sorry for venting.
No. 2097492
>>2097464Sometimes it helps to check out more of an artists work. Chris Sanders mostly draws the same subjects and is a man, his pin-up pieces don't even have backgrounds because he doesn't care about anything but the womens bodies. Libby Frame draws more full scenes and a lot of interesting outfits because that's what she cares about. There isn't much emphasis on the bodies themselves, she didn't even detail their chests in that piece. With completely random things like the wonder bread guy you can literally only tell that it's a fetish because it's always the same setting of a rich (oftentimes blonde) woman buying bread. So someone with a fairy fetish might have a gallery full of them. Distinguishing between a fetish and regular fixation is more difficult, you can really only tell if the style reminds you of other fetish art you've seen or if the artist talks about it in a weird sexual way.
But I honestly don't think you should spend much time thinking about whether or not an artist jerked off to something if the piece is sfw.
No. 2097494>>2097497
>>2097464A focus on specific body parts can help you tell. A woman who is otherwise normally clothed but has weirdly detailed armpits. Or a child character with weirdly realistic legs.
Detecting coom art becomes easier when you see it more often; I first learned how to draw through DeviantArt, and as much as I hate the rampant fetish content on that site, it's probably the reason why I can detect it so easily now.
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>>2097376>More general searches/tags you could try is simple stuff like 'my ocs' or 'original character/story' or 'worldbuilding'. Sorry, it's hard to be more helpful without knowing what exactly you're after.Am I correct in assuming that searching for certain aspects or characteristics or tropes will net you results? I looked at the two artists recommended here and my theory seems to check out. The tags are more about what their art 'is' rather than what it contains. I'll try to study people who's artstyles and subjects are similar to mine also
>(if a little lonely while you're trying to get your feet on there and have no eyes on your work).It's so hard to know what to believe when it comes to social media art advice. Everything's so contradictory if not scattered. I really wasn't born to be a content creator kek I wish I could live off of posting rkgks
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>>2097548ayrt and if you want a tip for getting attention for stuff like rkgks on tumblr, tag it with something related to it that's popular, even if it's not really that thing. For example, if you draw a cool fantasy lady, tag it with d&d/dnd and it'll improve your chances of it getting some traffic on the site. Aesthetic tags can also be a good thing to attach to art that fits them– some of my biggest bursts in early attention came from aesthetic blogs reblogging my nonsense kek.
Otherwise, just be persistent and learn what tags on your art give it better traction (not sure if this is still a thing, but irrc tumblr prioritises the first 5 tags or something, so use them well and don't just ramble in them– other anons, please correct me if this is wrong kek), and accept that you might get pretty low notes on most posts until you start gaining more momentum. The most important thing though is to have fun making art, don't worry too much about the social media aspect of posting too much (know a lot of people who've burnt themselves out doing that).
>tags are more about what their art 'is' rather than what it containspretty much, you're tagging for broader categories or ideas than each little thing in a piece (unless you know that thing has an audience, even if it's not a key part of the image). Tags are like little communities on tumblr tbh, not like something that is more about organisation like AO3 tagging (imo, at least).
Good luck anon!
No. 2097601
>>2095795>>2095916I can’t find them right now but i’ve seen posts where the
victims are depicted in simple drawings for people who don’t want to see the real pictures. It’s not that different from educational material but with modern social media to me it just comes off as insensitive and shallow when it’s posted alongside random characters drawn with watermelons and with their attitudes towards activism which at this point is all about what you engage with and post on social media. It’s becoming this generation’s Sonic 9/11 never forget autism.
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>>2097244She's such a great example of a female artist being virtually unscathed by a callout mob. She's doing incredibly well for herself and is currently working in a tattoo studio
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>>2082350>>2082685Late but apparently mery deleted all her work following some harassment
No. 2097739>>2098972
>>2097735Sage but seeing the green and purple heart I felt a bit of hope that she was maybe a
terf? But its probably symbolizing her hyperfocus ship
No. 2097825>>2097919
>>2097814Nta but apparently some japanese account was insulting her art and being racist about her being korean by making a million accounts after she blocked a new one every time
There are japanese comments saying they suspect its someone pretending to be japanese but eh I don't believe it, I think they're just trying to save face
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What do you guys use to make your digital art? I used to have an iPad where I would draw on it or use my sketchbooks but I sold my tablet because I barely used it. Whenever I try to use drawing tablets there’s some kind of disconnect I have with the tablet and the display and it makes my art look like crap, any possible tips for this?
No. 2097919
>>2097825The art is still on Pixiv.
>>2097858An Intuos. I don't have patience with an iPad or tablet screens.
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There's no way. She never learns, does she?
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>>2098072Samefag, in case you're confused, this is puppychan roleplaying as her DID alters. Her tumblr is full of chatter and blogging like this, my screenshot is a little cruddy so feel free to check her out yourself.
Picrel is ebegging. Can't say I'm shocked.
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>>2098084Also, she makes a lot of posts in this vein about normalizing horniness, kweerness, etc. She's rubbing shoulders with 'radqueers' which also includes trannies with rape fetishes and lolicons. The other farms has more of this so I won't post everything, but essentially this is her main thing and her main audience.
No. 2098317
>>2098084The way he describes himself as this uber-oppressed individual feels so condescending
>>2097858I use a huion hs610 that I got on sale. It was my first tablet, so I wanted something that wasn't too fancy to start out with.
No. 2098330
>>2098310>takes years, 10+ at leastwhat? it takes like a month or two tops
>>2097858Started with an intuos, currently use a cintiq and love it. Once I got over the hand-eye hurdle with the former, I never had trouble with it, and a my cintiq has always felt like drawing in a sketchbook. If you want to know programs as well, I use clip studio for 2D and zbrush, substance, and maya for 3D.
>tips for disconnectDo drawing exercises and warmups before trying to jump into a digital art session (focus on accuracy and getting your intended marks down). Don't over think it, either– if you're using a pen tablet, treat it like a funky mouse, and with screen tablets it really should be no different than drawing directly onto any other flat surface so just stick with it and push past the ugly newbie phase. Maybe prop up a screen tablet as well so it's on a comfortable angle (a laptop stand will do the trick)
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What are the best resources or courses for art social media marketing? Or art pr in general? I am a austist when it comes to social media sites since I prefer to remain anonymous I have offers for work but I just cant figure out how to keep a consistent and well kept social media account and keep it professional only since I have a diverse interest in multiple things (and making alt accounts for each one isn't helping me) how do you nonnies manage your main art acts and fanart alts? Or do you merge them?
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>>2097735I hope whoever is harassing her gets ass cancer. She seemed so sweet, its one of those artists that cheers you up because of how dedicated and autistic they seem.
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>>2098404Unless is the hashtag thing, I only place my country's flag in my bio.
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What stuff do you normally draw? I noticed that most artists draw pretty girls. Nothing against it, i just find it funny that everyone seems to draw almost the same thing.
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this just released today on webtoon (
https://www.webtoons.com/en/comedy/do-you-like-tomboys) and seeing the contrast between the genuinely lesbian/bi women uncomfortable with the obvious male fetishization vs fauxles/fauxbis cheering it on and insisting that the creator is a "bi woman" is hilarious. ive only done a cursory search so i havent been able to confirm if the creator is a male/troon or not, but if theyre not ill eat my hat. this style has male hentai addict written all over it. as a note, theres even more coombrained cringe on
https://x.com/LummyPixith, it was a genuine struggle to pick which image id use kek.
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>>2098486Definitely a tranny lol
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>>2098486Calling it now, he’s a black moid obsessed with anime and so the only acceptable pairings are his waifus x self-inserts or 2 girls he can jack off to
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>>2098486I knew I recognized this artist because they already have another webtoon out: Swolemates or whatever it's called. It's in the exact same shitty hentai addict art style, the author is definitely a troon with a muscle fetish, the maleness pretty obvious from their old instagram posts. Untalented and coomerish as fuck, webtoon truly has gone to shit
No. 2098502
>>2098447>>2098440I’m not American but I was wondering how many artists here use their ethnicity/country to market themselves like #mexicanartist #blackartist etc. I have mixed feelings about it
Sorry for the convoluted way I worded it
.>>2098422
Yeah I think flag/language is the most common way that I see and it feels less of a red flag
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>>2098486bottom of the barrel even for webtoon art standards
I wanted to check it out… Am I the only one who sees it gone? Should we rejoice?
No. 2098531>>2098537
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>>2098525Don't worry nonna, I was getting hopeful kek
These thumbnails alone are complete trash, I guarantee the only people liking this are either cooming to it or are teenagers fawning over "muh WLW representation! So kyoot!!"
No. 2098532>>2098537
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>>2098525this almost reads like a parody. Webtoon is the worst thing to ever happen to comics.
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>>2098537the other girl is even worse. You can tell this is a moid because no woman would think this is anywhere near stylish.
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Average everyday woman on the street + ugliest short haircut you could've possibly chosen = MUH TOMBOY!!!
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>>2098561Honestly you're right, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the hair itself, I just really hate how the entirety of this girl looks
No. 2098583
>>2098471Animals (real and fantastical), monsters, mechs, and people (sometimes).
I really need to work more on environments, so I've started trying to do plein airs with a little pocket gouache set I made (to limited success kek). Also want to make and share fanart, since I'm tired of not sharing the things that I like with others.
No. 2098737
>>2098592Using only black and white gives manga artists more leeway imo. They can focus on making pretty panels without factoring in coloring
>>2098575The 3D models in webtoons can be obvious, but they're not too bad. I hate the way they look, it is hard to get past the wonky anatomy and the feeling of repetitiveness
No. 2098779>>2098808
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I am half way done through the 250 box challenge and i feel like my boxes got worse. I wish i had money to pay for official criticism.
No. 2098808>>2098819
>>2098779Just post them on /ic/, here, or the DAB’s server
People always respond to them
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nonnas thank you for reminding me of the absolute dogshit state of webtoons
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>>2098859this is just repackaged fetish material ffs
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>>2098893>Merryweather MediaAh, so the vtuber who pretends to be a dogboy while looking like picrel was behind this, unsurprising
No. 2098931
>>2098486>i havent been able to confirm if the creator is a male/troon or notFunnily enough, if it's non-trans moid that doesn't change anything.
We've gotten to a point where not only are transbian given full unlimited carte blanche for the most male gaze objectifying portrayal of lesbians imaginable (internalized misogyny/homophobia is never a thing when it comes to them), but objectifying lesbians is itself treated like a core symptom/tell sign of being trans, so random "cishet" guys objectifing lesbian are also preemptively given carte blanche. A normal guy with zero gendie shit on his bio can post the tackiest himedanshi shit and make a bunch of jokes about how obsessed he is with sexy
toxic yuri fictional lesbians, all the comments will be about what a hecking wholesome egg he is and how they can't wait for his egg to crack (see shen).
Your fully transitioned FtM can only get away with half the shit a random straigh moid can nowadays.
No. 2099595>>2099603>>2099607>>2099626
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How do you improve? i draw daily but i feel like i dont get better
No. 2099603>>2099641>>2100371
>>2097312I don't think it has anything to do with being asexual or autistic, maybe you're probably straight? I'm straight myself and the stuff he makes isn't doing much in way of a reaction. It's like a sort of indifference? Yea it's cool but chris sanders can't draw different-faced women to save a life. He has a type he draws at ab nauseam that even the most unaware can piece together like clockwork.
>>2099595Set aside a designated time to practice. If that doesn't work, step back and figure out why. You may have a mental barrier that's preventing you from going further like lack of awareness or being discontent with your art that wanting to improve seems impossible. deal with those first before you can truly improve.
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>>2098893Sucks because the guy who did the art used to be a nice guy (I've met him in person) and made a cute (non-sexual) manga, but now all he does is draw out Merryweather's coomer ideas. I guess he pays really well or something. I'm also from Sweden and it made me feel hopeful that someone drew decent looking manga from here, sucks that he only does coomer art now like what the hell… never trust a moid.
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porn advert that looks even worse
No. 2100476>>2100486
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Also… This. Gross.
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>>2100513I'm sorry for posting so much, but there's so many ugly shots of this creature
Also I fail to see how this relates to 'meme girls'
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>>2100513this anatomy kek. males only think with their dicks
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glad it got btfo but this looks like a gacha life character
No. 2100552>>2100727
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>>2100471…And more really ugly lewd promos. Scrotes pay for this.
No. 2100592>>2100604
>>2100371NAYRT I'm no ambassador of all straight woman but since straight moids go nuclear over pretty men, it is safe to assume straight woman (and really most women) don't take kindly seeing their sex objectified. So when a man draws what he considers attractive, it's noticeable highlight of the piece. Your mind can only focus on that and nothing else. Years of deviantart has made me numb to vanilla cheesecake and beefcake because frankly it's the normalest baseline anyone can think of in terms of sex appeal. The only reason it's more
sus with men is becuase men are driven by their gentalias and shove anything that gets it hard while women can easily separate it from main body of work.
No. 2100652>>2100679>>2100708>>2100717>>2100739>>2100746>>2101031>>2101034>>2101049>>2101056>>2101072
>>2100604I was thinking about this today actually. Why do almost everyone nowadays (arguably we can also apply this to a lot of renaissance, romantic, realistic, etc era artists) focus the most on pretty girl art? I’m straight but ever since I was a kid I basically only ever drew pretty girl art. It’s gotten to the point that only now as an adult I’m learning male anatomy and how to draw cute husbandos.
Inb4 someone says “No but I don’t draw pretty girl art/ (random artist) doesn’t draw pretty girl art!” - I know it’s not everyone. But as a default most (by that I mean maybe 70%) art online is beautiful women. There’s even a feminist piece by a artist women group talking about this. I forgot the name but I’ll update later if I remember it. But it’s about how most museum art is naked women by male artists.
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>>2100652I think its because women are seen as an object. For men, they are an object of sexual attraction, and for women they are objects they can project onto. Its why so many pickmes love ugly bitches like super sonico. Its also why art featuring ''ugly'' women gets mocked, but ugly art involving men is normalized. Men in art are seen as characters first, people care about what they represent, while women in art are judged solely on their appearance.
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>>2100652>There’s even a feminist piece by a artist women group talking about thisVanessa Beecroft? I think half her body of work is in this vein.
Also just a general question for any nonas, who is your favourite gallery/contemporary artist? Mine is a tie between Patricia Piccini, Alexsandra Waliszewska and Yuko Tatsushima
No. 2100744
>>2100708No, not them.
For your question, its easily Marina Abramovic for me.
>>2100717Yes!! Them.
No. 2100746
>>2100652Look at classical art, women were historically valued for their beauty, and given as trophies for other men. When portraits started being used as a form of power and importance in society, painters used to portray their clients in a better light, which also led to women being depicted as more beautiful than they were. All that, plus men seeing women as objects, constantly depicting them in their idealistic views over the years. Female artists still live in this society, so to some degree, they perpetuated this concept, to be accepted by their peers or because they believe in it too. I think some women like the idea of being an object of desire. They don't see the harm in that, they idealize and fantasize about being the beautiful muse of the moids unrealistic views. They probably don't see it as degrading. It's deep into every single society and recent trends only reinforced what was already there. The issue isn't the pretty girl art, it's the fact that women are solely valued and analyzed for their beauty, while men are allowed to be ugly, old, and frumpy and still be respected and adored by both men and women. While women are not only expected to be beautiful but also unrealistically beautiful.
No. 2101049>>2101110
>>2100652I draw women because i'm a woman myself. I just dunno why would i draw a guy if i can draw a gal? I also draw other stuff, but i don't remember when the last time i drew a man lol.
>most museum art is naked women by male artistsI've never been to a museum, but i'm skeptical.
No. 2101056>>2101083
>>2100652Feels like a double-edge sword of a discussion to me
Draw more women = it's because women are objects
Draw more men = men are seen as superior and worshipped
As a little kid I drew girls because I was one. I will continue to draw females, because I am one. It has nothing to do with the world telling me females are objects. Even literal newborn babies prefer looking at female faces to male faces. And humans prefer looking at humans over looking at other animals or objects. I think some of it is just programmed into us naturally and it's not just "wymen sexual object hurrdurr".
No. 2101072>>2101083>>2101112
>>2100652I think a lot of girls/women like to draw female subjects because, well, it's a bit like playing with dolls– and also because pretty much everyone's first OC is a self-insert (and usually matches the artist's sex). Pretty instagram-style girls are easy to 'live through' as well, with the benefit of matching instagram as a platform– I don't think it's a stretch to say that most of that art has the female subject depicted wearing current trends and fitting certain desirable looks.
I'm not saying this out of some sort of judgement for these artists or even their art, either, just offering up a different option than it being because of women being seen as objects or whatever. Also, unlike male artists who often start with their own Manly McCool OCs when they're kids, once they hit puberty they've got a motivation to switch to drawing women, whereas girls might not have a reason to switch to drawing men because they're still getting what they want from drawing their female subjects (I've also talked to female artists who said they didn't like sharing their male art because they felt embarrassed because it 'said too much' about them kek, especially when they were young). Then, on top of that, pretty girl art has broad appeal and is then favoured by algorithms, which further motivates staying in that lane.
I could be totally wrong by the way, since I'm not talking from direct experience kek, I barely draw women at all
No. 2101101>>2101112
>>2082186This just in: Gen Z has never heard of light refraction before
>>2097260Are you serious?? Chris was a huge inspo to me when I was younger; I watched L&S an embarrassing amount of times when it came out. I wanted to draw like that so badly. Son of a bitch. Can't have anything.
>>2098093>the idea of being so sex and kink negative is in itself queerphobic? How? Last time I checked being gay had nothing inherently to do with being a whore or a coomer. This degen is telling on herself.
No. 2101112>>2101316
>>2101072nayrt Yea know, that interests me because for the longest time I'd assumed I was a closeted lesbian for still drawing women (apologies if that sounded retarded kek) but I still had oodles of interest in boys during my burgeoning years as a teen. I always had boys in my stories, I always had them be the main love interest for my female ocs, and I never once considered women as options until I joined the wider internet where lgb people were more common. Even my first encounter with a ssa woman made me kinda weird–though one could argue it was internalized homophobia. I don't think it was. I was simply just a straight woman who didn't like the fact other women different from me existed. I'm better now especially since I fell into the bisexual/ace lesbian meme during my tumblr days then got out.
And you are right on the money concerning the male art thing. Speaking for myself, I'm very self indulgent when it comes to drawing hot guy art. I always drew men that appeal to me the most and people can tell I have a type kek.
>>2101101What's wrong with gay people simply having sex? Kink I get. It's not really natural and frankly feels gross to me. Two consenting adults fucking isn't the end of the world unless they let it leak out of the bedroom and into the waking world where people are getting on with their business. No one wants to hear jim shoving cucumbers up his butthole please.
actually come to think of it, when does Something start becoming coomshit? Is two people have discrete sex coomshit? Is drawing shirtless men coomshit? is showing pussy diving coomshit?
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>>2101123NTAYRT but nona I had shitty HSC art history class in high school and most of the subjects in the body of works of the artists we studied were women. Hellenstic, Romantic, Renaissance, and Realism (picrel) movements loved depicting women and that's not scratching the surface. Even old Christain triptychs had a lot of paintings of Mary and female saints, and more modern and contemporary movements like lowbrow pop surrealism feature mostly female subjects. You're objectively incorrect, I'm sorry to say.
No. 2101148>>2101157
>>2101136>most of the subjects in the body of works of the artists we studied were womenWere they all nude? Because it was about naked women originally.
Nudes is only one of the genres in art. It’s strange too me that allegedly most of the works in any museum are nudes. Only if it's not a museum dedicated to nudity ofc.
No. 2101150
>>2101113Dolls was in reference to female artists being able to 'play' or live through the art of pretty girls they draw. Instagram already favours photos of pretty/idealised women, so naturally that would also influence what kind of art becomes the go-to on the platform, which also ties into the algorithm point because the photography side of the site already set the foundation for what the userbase likes to see on their feed.
Obviously, pretty girl art is not exclusive to instagram, nor did it originate there, but a certain style of it (that has since spread to pretty much everywhere) definitely gained its momentum there.
>>2101129I understand what you're trying to say anon, but the zoology-sperg in me can't resist a slight correction: both sexes signal sexual interest/receptiveness to each other, and many have dual courtships and displays (with the female being the selector though in the majority of cases, of course). Men failing to 'peacock', as you put it, is actually pretty recent as well. Sucks to be us, I guess.
As for the historical angle of the 'pretty girl art' question, it's probably good to keep in mind that the vast majority of artists were men, who would likely see the most appeal in female subjects, and also that many famous works were commissioned portraits or pieces of narrative art. I also feel like my art history classes were a male-subject leaning even split, which is likely just a difference in curriculum, and the last time I went to the national gallery where I live, it was also very mixed in the classical section (lot of landscapes and non-paintings, actually), but was running a female artist's exhibit in the contemporary section that was female but not pretty-girl in focus. So idk, the dominance of 'pretty girl art' in museums/galleries depends on the curator, I guess?
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>>2101148A lot of significant paintings are of women who are nude, from the top of my head; Birth of Venus, Olympia (picrel, unrelated but I hate this one so much), Mother and Child, Hylas and the Nymphs, Lovers (by Schiel I think), Triumph of Venus. Goya, Henri Toulouse, Fragonard, Edgar Degas, Picasso, Francis Bacon and many other artists also painted female nudes. Many women painters and artists have done so as well.
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>>2101152Me too, Realist paintings are so wonderful for that, it's mostly normal women chilling or working and there's something so gorgeous about it.
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>>2101163@tangtangmonster
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>>2101196gesture drawing! its from artstation, you can find it on ic for free if you look hard enough. You can use hitomi dl to download entire galleries or use nnmclub to torrent artstation figure drawing packs. You just set up a class time, press start and there you go. Its good if you dont want to draw the ugly fatties from line of action. I got so tired of the lack of variety in female bodies and the overabundance of post wall, fat men i just make my own figure drawing classes with chinese whores and cool women.
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>>2101203samefag I'm imagining her jumping around on them in public like that episode of south park where Randy uses his balls as a pogo stick
No. 2101221
>>2101215i wish all men were gay like that then
>>2101216good luck
nonny! in case you dont find the dl link for the GD! app here is another one that serves the same function
https://github.com/blendermf/QuickDraw No. 2101225>>2101227>>2101228>>2101233>>2101237
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>>2101220someone this grotesque shouldnt be allowed to be photographed, there should be an actual law that bans these cryptid sightings from being documented.
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>>2101157Sure. But the way you ppl talk about it, one might think that women were always portrayed as sex objects only.
No. 2101283>>2101300
>>2101269If you referring to this
>most museum art is naked women by male artistsIt's not a hyperbole lmao, it's misinformation.
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>>2066356I used to love her art so much but I haven't followed up with her since 2016 at most. Sorry I can't be much help. I love her usual style but I also love when she would branch out with things like this too
