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Into the fray: Why Gaza must go

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The only durable solution requires dismantling Gaza, humanitarian relocation of the non-belligerent Arab population, and extension of Israeli sovereignty over the region.

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Givati brigade in Gaza Photo: IDF SPOKESMAN'S OFFICE
We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind.... You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny... That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: victory; victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.

– Winston Churchill, May 13, 1940


We cannot solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them.


– Albert Einstein


At the time of writing this column, ground operations in Gaza were still going on and reports of increasing casualties were coming in with depressing frequency. This should, therefore, be a time for national cohesion and solidarity, with unity and support for the war effort, and criticism of the government suspended.

Sadly, however, the government has given the public little coherent indication of its aims, or of the realities it is striving to create.

Ill-defined and inadequate objectives


Worse, not only is there no clear indication of where the country is going, there seems to be little willingness to recognize how we got here.

In the third week of Operation Protective Edge, the government is still waffling on its objectives. These keep morphing from one vague, vacuous formulation to another, as developments on the battlefield make each succeeding definition of the operation’s goals appear abysmally inadequate and ineffectual.

Initially, the government declared that all it aspired to was to “restore calm” – i.e.

to reinstate the status quo – and if Hamas would cease fire, so would Israel.

Just how myopic that would have been is starkly underscored by what has become chillingly apparent during the operation – the devastating potential of an elaborate tunnel system developed by the terror organizations in Gaza.

Had a cease-fire been implemented in such circumstances, Hamas would have been free to continue developing its deadly subterranean potential, which it could activate at a moment of its choosing.

This appalling prospect makes deeply disturbing questions, regarding the competence and/or judgment of the nation’s leadership, unavoidable, even as the battles rage on. Unless the reasons for the current predicament are understood, no effective remedy can be found.

Deeply disturbing questions

We must weigh the only two possibilities before us: (a) either the government was aware of the deadly menace posed by the network of tunnels; or (b) it wasn’t.

If it was, then willingness to agree to a cease-fire before the danger was eliminated reflects a disturbing readiness to reconcile itself to the dangers and expose the country’s civilian population to murderous consequences in the future.

If it was oblivious to these dangers, this reflects a grave ignorance of deadly threats facing the country, a sign of just how out of touch the leadership of the nation has been with the ominous reality we inhabit.

Although I rarely find occasion to quote Haaretz as a corroborating source, my eye could not help catching the pungent title of a piece written by veteran defense correspondent Amos Harel: “Hamas’ terror tunnels – a national strategic failure for Israel”.

Harel points out: “A week ago, Israel announced its willingness to accept a cease-fire in Gaza... This means one of two things. Either the ministers and generals were willing last week to let these tunnels, every one a ticking bomb, tick softly under kibbutz dining rooms until the next escalation, or they weren’t aware of the seriousness of the risk.”

He continues: “So either they were taking a calculated risk of unusual [read “gigantic” – M.S.] dimensions, or they didn’t have enough intelligence [information] before the operation (which doesn’t quite square with a senior officer’s claim...

that ‘never before has the army had such quality intelligence before an operation’).”

Prescient prediction

It is difficult to accept that the government was totally unaware of Hamas’s tunneling endeavor. As early as 2006, Hamas used a tunnel to abduct Gilad Schalit and kill two of his comrades near Kerem Shalom, eventually attaining the liberation of 1,027 convicted terrorists. Last October, the discovery of an almost 2-km.-long tunnel near Kibbutz Ein Hashlosha was widely reported, and according to several sources, its objective was a kindergarten, located close to its exit point, 300 meters inside Israel.

The threat imminent in Hamas’s burrowing enterprise, and the conditions under which it might be employed, were presciently predicted 10 months ago by Harel. In an article, carrying the ominous headline: “Hamas’ strategic tunnels: Millions of dollars to spirit kidnapped Israelis into Gaza” (October 13, 2013), he warned of the likely reaction of Hamas should it feel weakened, precisely what Israeli politicians were crowing about just prior to the current round of violence. He cautioned: “... if Hamas decides to try to overcome its present distress by reigniting the front against Israel, using the tunnels to launch an attack could be one of its main options.”

His prediction proved chillingly precise.

Figuring the flaccidity factor: Impotence not ignorance

Given that it is highly implausible that the government was unaware of the danger looming under its very nose (or rather, feet), how are we to account for the flaccidity of its response – which, but for good fortune, could have precipitated outcomes of unthinkable tragedy.

Former Jerusalem Post Editor in Chief Bret Stephens, in a recent Wall Street Journal piece (July 14), provides a partial explanation for the phenomenon, suggesting that Israel’s “real weakness is a certain kind of vanity that confuses stainlessness with virtue, favors moral self-regard over normal self-interest, and believes in politics as an exercise not in power but in self-examination.”

For all its admirable eloquence, Stephens’s diagnosis relates more to the symptoms of the malaise, rather than its causes.

In numerous columns, I have been at pains to explain the roots of this enervating phenomenon (which I have designated “The Limousine Theory of Israeli politics”) and warned of the ruinous results it will inevitably wreak upon us.

The underlying reason for the inadequate responses to clearly apparent dangers is that Israel’s leaders have been cowered into this moralistic masochism by an aggressive and intolerant triad of left-wing civil society elites (in the legal establishment, the mainstream media and academe), who, through their unelected position of privilege and power, have taken control of the political discourse in the country.

The political discourse determines the elected political leadership’s perception of policy constraints and policy possibilities.

Through dominance of the discourse, these elites can control the parameters of Israeli policy-making and impose their worldview of political appeasement and territorial concessions on it.

Sacrificing lives for a ‘two-state deity’

These elites have, to a large degree, mortgaged their personal prestige and professional positions, and much of their livelihood, to the two-state concept and the land-for-peace doctrine on which it rests.

Were this doctrine to be discredited, all these benefits – material and otherwise – would be jeopardized. They, therefore, have a vested interest in preserving a perception that it is valid – no matter how incongruent with reality and rationality it proves – and must endeavor to prevent the adoption of any policy measures that put paid to the two-state formula.

Since the attainment of strategic victory in Gaza calls for measures that preclude any agreement on a Palestinian state, the policy-relevant discourse, which these elites mold, has been devoted to ridiculing such measures as impractical or infeasible, and to promoting measures that can only bring about a temporary respite to the fighting. These respites have always been exploited by the enemy to enhance its capabilities for the inevitable next round – and the next inevitable batch of casualties.

Oblivious to facts, and impervious to reason, in a desperate attempt to sustain an unworkable paradigm, Israeli left-wing elites perpetuate bout after escalating bout of violence, callously sacrificing ever more lives on the altar of the false deity of twostates- for-two-peoples.

‘Mowing the lawn’ won’t cut it

The reluctance to face unpalatable realities has spawned new terminology to paper over intellectual surrender, and mask unwillingness to accept the need for regrettably harsh but essential policies.

First, we were told that since there was “no solution” to the Israel-Arab conflict, we should adopt an approach of “conflict management” rather than “conflict resolution.”

Now we have a new term in the professional jargon to convey a similar perspective: “mowing the grass.” This is the name for an approach that entails a new round of fighting every time the Palestinian violence reaches levels Israel finds unacceptable.

Its “rationale” – for want of a better term – was recently articulated by Efraim Inbar and Eitan Shamir of the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, Bar-Ilan University, as: “The use of force, not intended to attain impossible political goals, but rather [as a] long-term strategy of attrition designed primarily to debilitate the enemy capabilities.”

Sadly, what we have seen is that far from “debilitating the enemy capabilities,” because said enemy keeps reappearing, spoiling for a fight, ever bolder with ever-greater capabilities.

It is an open question just how many more rounds of “mowing” the residents of southern Israel will endure before losing confidence that the government will provide adequate protection and choose to evacuate the area.

No, periodically mowing the lawn is not a policy that can endure for long – it simply will not cut it. The grass needs to be uprooted – once and for all.

Gaza: What would Einstein say? 


Albert Einstein famously said that one could not solve a problem with the level of thinking that created it.

Clearly, the problem of Gaza was created by the belief that land could be transferred to the Palestinian Arabs to provide them a viable opportunity for self-governance.

Equally clearly, then, the problem of Gaza cannot be solved by persisting with ideas that created it – i.e. persisting with a plan for Israel to provide the Palestinian Arabs with land for self-governance.

The problem can only be solved by entirely abandoning the concept that Gaza should be governed by Palestinian Arabs. Any effective solution must follow this new line of reasoning.

Any other outcome will merely prolong the problem. If Hamas comes out stronger from this round of fighting, it will be only a matter of time before the next, probably more deadly, round breaks out.

If Hamas comes out weaker from this round of fighting, it is only a matter of time before it will be replaced by an even more violent extremist-successor – and thus, once more, only a matter of time until the next, probably more deadly, round breaks out.

The only durable solution requires dismantling Gaza, humanitarian relocation of the non-belligerent Arab population, and extension of Israeli sovereignty over the region.

That is the only approach that can solve the problem of Gaza.

That is the only approach that will eliminate the threat to Israel continually issuing from Gaza.

That is the only approach that will extricate the non-belligerent Palestinians from the clutches of the cruel, corrupt cliques who led them astray for decades.

That is the only approach that will preclude a need for Israel to “rule over another people.”

Gaza: What would Herbert Hoover say?


Former US President Herbert Hoover, dubbed the “Great Humanitarian” for his efforts to relieve famine in Europe after WWI, wrote in The Problems of Lasting Peace: “Consideration should be given even to the heroic remedy of transfer of populations...the hardship of moving is great, but it is [still] less than the constant suffering of minorities and the constant recurrence of war.”

How could anyone, with any degree of compassion and humanity, disagree?

Martin Sherman (www.martinsherman.org) is the founder and executive director of the Israel Institute for Strategic Studies.www.martinsherman.net


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  • Thomas Bond · Newcastle upon Tyne
    The Columnist has provided no solution the issue of Gaza. Simply taking 1.8 million Gazans and spreading them throughout Israel and the West Bank without giving them Equal voting rights to Israeli citizens is a recipe for an even greater catastrophe. Israel’s pri-minister said recently that the Gazans have no Grievances. Just because someone is your elected leader does not mean they are telling the truth! The Palestinians do have grievances, (fishing boats are shot up if the go out too far to sea, they are not allowed to set up and operate a commercial Sea and Airport, supplies of food and commercial products have been severely restricted. The fact is the rocket fire is caused by Israelis blockade, and until Israeli citizens stand up and say enough of these provocations against Palestinians the conflict will go on forever.

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    • Svietka Rivilis · Top Commenter · ‎עיצוב פנים‎ at ‎חדר21
      u r obviously very very new to Martin Sherman writings if u say he provides no solution. U really should do much more research before opening your mouth
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    • Theodor Rebarber · Top Commenter · Washington, District of Columbia
      Thomas Bond,
      Those are lies. When Israel abandoned every square inch of land in Gaza, Israel hoped to have regular trade. The reason Israel had to impose a UN-recognized lawful blockade of Gaza was because it was almost immediately used to launch attacks on Israel. Then a majority of the people of Gaza elected Hamas, an internationally-recognized terrorist organization. Even so, Israel has allowed food and other basic goods into Gaza if they can be checked so that no arms are included. Hamas has ZERO legitimate complaints and all you are doing is advocating for terrorist murderers.
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    • Roberto Martin Wol · The British Schools of Montevideo
      Thomas, You've got the causation backwards...It is because of the rockets that the blockade was imposed. albeit not strictly enough given the use of Iranian, Syrian, Russian rockets.
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  • Adina Kutnicki · Top Commenter · Works at Investigative journalist
    AND, this is precisely why I call Dr. Martin Sherman, at my blog, Israel's premiere "intellectual warrior". It is why a button link to his policy center, Israel Institute for Strategic Studies, is the only one atop my site. It is that simple. That clear.
    Adina Kutnicki, Israel www.adinakutnicki.com
       
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    • Choni Davidowitz · Top Commenter · המכללה הימית מכמורת
      Mr. Sherman, You always begin your amazing columns with quotes. Allow me to quote from this weeks Parsha (Num 32, 50-55)
      "Drive out all the inhabitants before you....clear out the Land so that you may live in it, since it is to you that I am giving the land to occupy........If you do not drive out the inhabitants, they will be thorns in your sides and pins in your eyes."
      I submit that the present operation should have been done in 1967. Nevertheless better late than never.
      This operation, if completed, will have a domino effect, and soon Israel will complete the commandment in all of Judea and Samaria.
       
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    • Nadine Lumley · Top Commenter · Dedicated to helping Steve Harper find his true calling - www.unseatHarper.ca - at Screaming Canadian Dadaist · 570 followers
      The reason the right-wing corporate/military owned government in Israel gets away with murder is because everyone is so scared of being called an anti-Semite. I’m not anti-Semite; I’m anti-murder.

      Support for Israel equals support for war crimes against Palestine. Stop Apartheid Israel. Free Gaza.

      Video of Jewish-Canadians protesting Canada’s Prime Minister Harper’s blind support of apartheid Israel
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      • Nadine Lumley · Top Commenter · Dedicated to helping Steve Harper find his true calling - www.unseatHarper.ca - at Screaming Canadian Dadaist · 570 followers
        Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of Israel

        Physicist pulls out of conference hosted by president Shimon Peres in protest at treatment of Palestinians

        A statement published by the British Committee for the Universities of Palestine with Hawking's approval described it as "his independent decision to respect the boycott, based upon his knowledge of Palestine, and on the unanimous advice of his own academic contacts there".

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/08/stephen-hawking-israel-academic-boycott

        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/world/middleeast/stephen-hawking-joins-boycott-against-israel.html

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      • Jørgen Moisejeff Berg · Top Commenter
        If you are anti-murder. How about supporting Israel against the lunatic murderous group Hamas? Because they do their very best to kill as many jews as they possibly can, their problem is that they suck at it - Israel has no choice but to bomb Gaza, and if you had any knowledge about this conflict you would know that. And FYI Israel is NOT occupying Gaza. The humanitarian problems in Gaza is first and foremost Hamas' fault, because they chooses to spend every nickel bying guns and ammo, instead of building infrastructure and improving the lives of the arab population - instead they relentlessly attack Israel EVERY DAY for months on end - Israel has EVERY right to defend itself against terrorists - If the people in Gaza do not want to be bombed, maybe they should have chosen someone else to lead them. If you make your bed you must sleep in it....
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      • Thomas Adler · Top Commenter · York University
        Israel freed Gaza in 2005 with open borders and green houses for the Arabs. The seige only happened when the Gazan's returned the favour with 12,000 rockets. What don't you get?
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    • Bear Klein · Top Commenter
      Sherman tells the truth. It is not politically correct but it is logical. This is a horrible problem and to solve it takes an out of the box solution. This will be hard to implement because the pro Palestinian crowd will call Israel many nasty names. This has become a zero sum game. Us or them here and they only want our destruction and co-existence has become impossible. I choose us over them it is that simple. If I am not for myself than who am I for?
      • Walter R. Moore · Top Commenter · Works at Senior Systems Administrator
        "Nasty names?" Not it would be a war crime of sufficient enormity to cats Israel out of the family of nations. Europe would close its doors to you - America - your last best friend, would be forced to condemn your actions.

        If someone wished for Israel's destruction, this is the course of action they would dream of.
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        Muhsin Ibrahim an hour ago
        What an unscrupulous savagery is this schumuck writer calling for? Ethnic cleansing and forceful annexation of a territory that do not belong to the Zionist Israel. Hmm. May God do onto you (plural) what you are doing onto the Palestinians, amen. But the inhumanity is unprecedented.
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            henric åkesson an hour ago
            What you whant is an ethnic cleansing. If israel tris that i hope that The UN will come and stop israel with Force
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                Drew 2 hours ago
                "The only durable solution requires dismantling Gaza, humanitarian relocation of the non-belligerent Arab population, and extension of Israeli sovereignty over the region."
                Only a gross pig would write this.
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                    Julian Block 7 hours ago
                    Or you could give Palestine their own land back, and find somewhere to relocate Israel to. The USA really likes Israel, perhaps they could gift one of their states.
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                        Guerrero_viejo 3 days ago
                        How many of these tunnels are below sea level?
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                            skamble 3 days ago
                            The only people with successful record of population transfers were Stalin and Hitler.
                            And if anyone new would try, there is a courtroom in Hague waiting for them.
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                              Abelardy 3 days ago
                              The only political entities on the Sinai peninsula can be Israel and Egypt. Neither Israel nor Egypt want Gaza to be a beachhead for Iranian, Turkish, or Qatari imperialism. Hamas must be dismantled, its leaders liquidated or exiled. It is in Egypt's interest to eliminate Gaza as a political entity. Israel and Egypt should explore a joint solution to Gaza: For example, the Gazan people could be under Egyptian rule. Israel could take some territory in Gaza as a buffer zone. Leave the US and EU out of it. They will just cause problems.
                              If the Egyptians won't play ball, then do it the hard way:
                              Blast open the gates between Gaza and Egypt, and drive every last Gazan into Egypt. Then, annex Gaza. We can occupy territory. Not people.
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                                  skamble 4 days ago
                                  Large scale population transfer is known today by the name ethnic cleansing.
                                  "The Final Report of the Commission of Experts established pursuant to Security Council Resolution 780 defined ethnic cleansing as "a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas."
                                  " Those practices constitute crimes against humanity and can be assimilated to specific war crimes. Furthermore, such acts could also fall within the meaning of the Genocide Convention."
                                  I am not trying to say what is right and what is wrong! I am just reminding that the proposed idea was officially defined to be a crime under international law. Please don't blame me for this, I didn't write the international law!
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                                    hebrewprophet 4 days ago
                                    Not even Egypt's once all-powerful military wants to have anything whatsoever to do with Gaza which was returned to Egypt in 1978 by Jimmy Carter,Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat,it's not Israeli territory and NO we don't want the responsibilty of running/ruling it,we just want peace and quiet down south .
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                                      Ben Plonie 5 days ago
                                      While the article is correct in practical terms, unfortunately it does not include the historical context that makes it all legally and politically possible.
                                      The elephant in the room is that the Gaza district is a part of the ancient Jewish State of Judah and of the Southern Kingdom of Judah, as of two thousand years before the first Arab illegally invaded and occupied and colonized and stole Jewish Palestine. There is no historical or legal difference between Gaza and Jerusalem or Haifa or anywhere in between.
                                      The Arabs of Gaza on the other hand derive from the illegal immigration of Arabs into Jewish Palestine primarily from the beginning of large-scale Jewish investment in their homeland in the end of the 19th century, and accelerating under British suppression of the entrance of Jewish returnees and their encouragement of Arab foreigners. They have no rights to the Gaza property. The place for them is their ancestral hellholes who did not allow them to return when their land and statehood grab failed the first time.
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                                          Jeff Ludwig 6 days ago
                                          Thank you for your clarity of expression and the strong purposefulness of your vision. This is the first article
                                          about the present fighting in Gaza that raised the question about the prior extent of Israeli knowledge about the tunnels.
                                          Also, the quotation from Hoover has a special power and usefulness, especially for those of us who know some history. H. Hoover was one of the world's great leaders and a GREAT humanitarian and executive. Thus for him to have said what he said about removing people for their own good has special relevance. Like yourself, he viewed events from a higher vantage point and did not advocate relocation from a merely partisan commitment. May the Lord cause his face to shine upon you all of your days.
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                                              Bandido 6 days ago
                                              Israeli leadership is too demoralized to take the necessary measure of neutralizing Gaza once and for all. The author has identified the problem: Leftist saturation of all media to the point that the government has little stomach for a final reckoning. It is suffering from political Stockholm Syndrome. The only way out of the morass is by utter rejection of the Left and adoption of a policy of Israel first, based on power and true security. Anything less is a lie and a defeat.
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                                                  nevadastu 7 days ago
                                                  Common sense. How we Jews survived 5000 years is a real mystery when you look at the naivete with which we have dealt with threats throughout the centuries. Martin is absolutely correct, Israel must relocate the civilians, destroy Hamas, and make Gaza a permanent part of your country. Easier said then done, I understand that, but you cannot survive indefinitely with a growing Palestinian presence on both sides of your tiny nation, with one singular goal of destroying you. Screw the rest of the world, and what those gutless appeasers think! You are fighting for your survival.
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                                                      Grimlos 7 days ago
                                                      Truth hurts. World leaders are now pushing for a cease-fire in Gaza. No mention of demilitarization or disarmament of Hamas. Such a move will leave Hamas still in power. IS has declared willingness to partake in their "struggle". Sooner or later this will occur, and that war will take a much bigger toll on society and civilians in afflicted areas.
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                                                          thecraziestprofessor 7 days ago
                                                          Israeli politicians would accept a return
                                                          to the "status quo"
                                                          because they and their families
                                                          do not live near Gaza.
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                                                              SanfordA 7 days ago
                                                              Of course population transfer. American Jews need to transfer from America to Gaza, rebuild the Marriott time-share that was started there, rebuild greenhouses that the religious Arabs destroyed, and build schools for Jews and Arabs together. Jews, our days in America are numbered. Let us all relocate to our home country, Israel.
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                                                                  jean -pierre katz 7 days ago
                                                                  any transfers must be completely voluntary.
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                                                                    David 8 days ago
                                                                    I agree with the author's premise. However, large scale relocation of the population is not possible without support from the united States. The diplomatic consequences would be absolutely devastating unless the US was a) providing cover and b) publicly justifying it. I read a report that said that due to Hamas mismanagement the Gaza strip will be unlivable by 2020. Similarly Arabs are immigrating out of Judea at between 10-30 thousand per year. Given enough time, relocation is inevitable but the longer the situation goes on the more likely Israel's standing will fall. Furthermore, Egypt's cooperation is necessary because unless Egypt opens the border the Arabs in Gaza would soon be faced with a humanitarian catastrophe in the event that Israel chose to encourage flight by turning off water and power.
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                                                                      The_Ultimate 8 days ago
                                                                      The practicalities of population transfer are problematic. Considering there will not be agreement from the Arabs, Israel would be transferring a population, which is an unequivocal war crime. So whoever gives the order should expect to spend the rest of their life on trial or in prison. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but there are grave consequences that we shouldn't ignore. Do we have a leader brave enough to make such a sacrifice? I'm not so sure. ..
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                                                                          Ben Plonie > The_Ultimate 5 days ago
                                                                          When looked at properly, the Arab population in Gaza is there illegally, as they are composed of those or descended from those who entered Jewish Palestine illegally and displaced the ancient Jewish inhabitants. Extending this criminal injustice will only make it worse.
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                                                                              The_Ultimate > Ben Plonie 4 days ago
                                                                              I'm all for getting rid of arabs from Israel, but to be fair it's hard to say they are there illegally. Besides, even if what you say is true, it is entirely certain there is no evidence to support your position.
                                                                              I truly believe in separation of people as the only answer to the conflict, but we won't be able to use the kind of arguments you presented to defend ourselves with.
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                                                                                  Ben Plonie > The_Ultimate 3 days ago
                                                                                  Anytime I see an expression like 'it is entirely certain', I know the person has nothing to back up their statement. What constitutes legality in this discussion is the same thing that constitutes legality in modern terms.
                                                                                  Gaza was a Jewish (i.e. Judean) place for a dozen centuries before the first Arab entered our land via illegal conquest. Before that it was legally within the territory of the state of Judah although aggressive Europeans occupied the coastal strip until they were
                                                                                  finally destroyed.
                                                                                  Israel's history goes back to the rest of the world's prehistoric times, and in spite of 14 foreign conquests in thirty centuries it was never empty of Jews, and the Jewish communities dispersed in the world lived by its seasons and learned its map and geography, and whichever individuals could manage it regularly returned as possible.
                                                                                  Nobody else including the Arabs held it for any length of time and it was never an independent entity but ruled and administered from abroad. Today's Arabs have nothing to do with the Arabs who illegally occupied Jewish Palestine long ago, and certainly did not purchase the land or settle peacefully.
                                                                                  The only reason it was emptied of Jews was when the British and the Arabs and lastly a misguided Israeli politician did so forcefully without permission and certainly without even compensation.
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                                                                                      The_Ultimate > Ben Plonie 2 days ago
                                                                                      Sorry buddy, but your reflex like reaction to my turn of phrase is incorrect. I'm sur eyou will not be able to produce any evidence of your statement, but you know what, I would love to be wrong and have you correct me. It would help me in the future if I had such evidence at hand.
                                                                                      It's an interesting comment that Jews in the Diaspora continually returned to Israel. Once again, do you know of a place with any evidence of this occurring? It is another things I would be very interested in.
                                                                                      In fact, I would be impressed if you could produce any evidence regarding the arab population that is more than 200 years old. Maybe something could be found in Egypt, detailing the mass exodus to Israel in the early years.
                                                                                      I see you don't address my original point at all, which is that any leader who would order such an action would be condemned by the international community and spend the rest of their life without freedom. Can you envision a method to achieve the goal without something like this happening?
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                                                                                    sherlock > The_Ultimate 7 days ago
                                                                                    Offering relocation grants is a war crime?
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                                                                                    Poupic 8 days ago
                                                                                    Dr. Sherman dreams that the land of Israel will be free of enemy Arabs. That is simply a wet dream, nothing more. How will he “transfer” 1.8 million Arabs from Gaza to where? It will never happen. Can’t happen. The time of Muslim fleeing hanging on train to create East and West Pakistan is over. Only when it comes to Jews is it possible. No Jews remain in any Arab state of Iran. Why is that? They were all absorbed by Israel upon landing. Arab states will always refuse to absorb “their brothers” and the West will support them by keeping this Arab refugees in camps called UNWRA camps to satisfy the major block of votes at the UN: Arab and other Muslims states. Time to put the UN to sleep!
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