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Atmos Soundbar that works with 3rd party Subwoofer

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#1 ·
I had a Yamaha YSP-5600 Soundbar in my living room, which was one of the 1st Atmos soundbars. I used the Yamaha SWK-W16 Wireless Subwoofer kit with it to connect a pair of SVS PC-4000 subwoofers. Unfortunately, the Soundbar was destroyed by a lightning strike a few months ago, so I need to replace it.

Yamaha hasn't updated the YSP-5600 or released a replacement for it, so I'm not really interested in spending $1500 on another one when it had issues with passing through Dolby Vision.

I'll be using it with an LG 83" G2 OLED, so I thought the LG S96QR soundbar might be a good match. Problem is it comes with a subwoofer and appears to only work with that subwoofer. I want to use my SVS PC-4000's.

I looked at the Nakamichi Shockwafe, but that also comes with subwoofers that I don't want/need and appears to be locked into using them.

I looked at the Bose 900, but that appears to only work with the Bose Bass Module?

Looking at the Sonos Arc, it appears a 3rd party sub can be used with the addition of a Sonos Amp, but everything I'm reading says that combo doesn't work for TV.

Are there any Atmos soundbars that work with 3rd party subwoofers besides the YSP-5600?
 
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#2 ·
The two Sennheiser Ambeo soundbars (Max, Plus) have a standard sub pre-out port and will work with any 3rd party sub. Neither of those soundbars have an option for separate rear surround speakers, but the room-correction software is better than most.

Almost all of the Klipsch Cinema series soundbars also have a standard sub pre-out port. Like many recent soundbars the Klipsch ones do not support DTS. (The top-tier model, the 1200, has recently been discontinued and is getting hard to find.)

The good news is both of those soundbar model lines have above average core sound quality.

Good luck!
 
#3 ·
The two Sennheiser Ambeo soundbars (Max, Plus) have a standard sub pre-out port and will work with any 3rd party sub. Neither of those soundbars have an option for separate rear surround speakers, but the room-correction software is better than most.
Don't really care about rear surrounds, didn't have them with the YSP-5600, and don't really have a good place to put them in this room. That being said, the price seems very high to not support rears.

Almost all of the Klipsch Cinema series soundbars also have a standard sub pre-out port. Like many recent soundbars the Klipsch ones do not support DTS. (The top-tier model, the 1200, has recently been discontinued and is getting hard to find.)
Ooh, I see the 1200 on sale for $999... Reviews on it don't look very good though.

The good news is both of those soundbar model lines have above average core sound quality.
Any idea how they compare to the YSP-5600 in terms of sound quality?
 
#5 ·
I can tell you that a number of the Sony Soundbars have a sub-out stereo jack. I know for certain the HT-Z9f and the newer HT-A3000, A5000, and A7000 all have sub-outs that you can hardwire a sub (and their rear speakers). BUT I don't know if they work with 3rd party subs.

Often in the stores they hardwire connection to the sub as to avoid wifi interference, which I have experienced in the past with my former Z9F (sub and rear speakers cut out) and it is a major nuisance.

I was at BestBuy today and took a few pics of the stereo cable connections on their soundbars and subs/speakers. They are usually hidden behind a panel and on some of them you need to kind of cut out the plastic cover.

I question how the sub or the soundbar would know what type of sub is plugged in. As far as I know, it is a simple stereo cable, and I'm not aware of there being any data transfer that can occur. The only way I can think that the soundbar identifies the sub is when you run the optimize routine and perhaps the sub sends out a distinct ping that the soundbar needs to detect in order to activate the sub out??

So I don't have the answer, but I'm curious if anyone else has attempted this with one of these Sony soundbars.
 
#7 ·
So I just triple-checked this re the US versions of some Sony products ... the HT-A series (9, 7000, 5000, 3000) do not have a standard sub pre-out port. I also checked the optional wireless rear speakers (SA-RS5 and RS3) and they do not have any audio-out ports at all. It appears those devices can only be connected to specific, wireless Sony subs (SA-W5, SA-W3, etc.).
Perhaps Sony provides an altered version of the products to stores for display purposes?
Perhaps overseas versions of these products have different specs/connections?
 
#6 ·
I have the YSP-5600 connected to a SVS PC2000 Pro which sounds great. Like the OP I am looking to upgrade but it appears even the YSP-5600 has been discontinued. I looked at the Sony A5000 and A7000 but I did not see anywhere in the specs that ir had a sub out. Seems like the Ambeo may be the only ones you can use a third party sub with.
 
#11 ·
I have a Sennheiser Ambeo Max and a pair of SVS PB-4000 subs. These components work great to fill my large multi-purpose living room and open kitchen. I am amazed at the quality of Atmos effect for many 4K HD DVDs and a variety of cable network broadcasts.

As many have stated in other AVS feeds, Soundbars cannot replace or perform as optimal as a well thought out surround system with individual surround components/speakers. For me however, the combination of the Ambeo sound bar and SVS subwoofers provide an excellent Atmos experience.

Good luck with you decision.

Steve


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#16 ·
I have a Sennheiser Ambeo Max and a pair of SVS PB-4000 subs. These components work great to fill my large multi-purpose living room and open kitchen. I am amazed at the quality of Atmos effect for many 4K HD DVDs and a variety of cable network broadcasts.
Thanks, sounds similar to what I have going on. Large living room open to the kitchen. The Yamaha YSP-5600 with the PC-4000's worked well. Sounds like the Ambeo Max would be a good replacement.

As many have stated in other AVS feeds, Soundbars cannot replace or perform as optimal as a well thought out surround system with individual surround components/speakers. For me however, the combination of the Ambeo sound bar and SVS subwoofers provide an excellent Atmos experience.
I'm well aware. I have a full 9.4.6 setup in my dedicated theater room. Don't need that in the living room, sticking with a soundbar there.
 
#20 ·
Yes, I was referring to standard 3.5mm audio cable/headphone jack. That is what Sony uses for a wired connection to the wires sub/speakers... Confirmed in a reddit thread.

Sounds like from the post above, Bose 900 does exactly what the OP is asking for.

But I'm still curious if it works for the Sony soundbars as well. Lots of people like their soundbars but are underwhelmed by the subs.
 
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