Ainz ooal gown (Overlord) VS Naraku (inuyasha)

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reality slash will work as described.

Doesn't significantly change the outcome, anyway if its going to get to the point where people are just going to impose game mechanics from Overlord onto Naraku when we know they don't exist for him, I don't see a reason to continue the debate.
 
How does this change the outcome of the match in any way whatsoever? Naraku has demonstrated the ability to regen from from an ability that works exactly like reality slash immediately after being hit. His hp functionally is infinite in this case unless Ainz can deal with all his various forms of immortality at the same time, which he demonstratively can't.

There's a reason why Naraku did whatever he could to ensure Miroku couldn't use his Wind Tunnel. Ainz trumps it effortlessly.

Regen can't really do anything about an attack that continuously consumes the target in literal hellfire until there's nothing left.
-Aura of miasma, which is a considerable defense against anyone who cannot outright no-sell the thing.
Would either have no effect against Ainz or count as Negative energy and instead heal/rejuvenate Ainz.
-His bubble barrier, which as far as I remember was automatic and in the later versions could outright send magic attacks back to sender.
Depends on degree of attack and none of the magic used in IY is remotely like the spells/skills used in Overlord. It also would be incapable of reflecting anything designed to specifically counter such or outright ignore defenses outright. Like the aforementioned Reality Slash.
-His fairly high natural durability and the various armor upgrades he got from eating Moryomaru.
It would need to be quantified. Ainz can tank a boosted Holy Attack from the Dominion Authority with statements saying it leveled cities fighting the Evil Gods 200yrs prior. The damage Ainz took was negligible to the point of laughable, despite Ainz being vulnerable to Holy attacks, making them 2x as effective. Which makes Ainz incredibly durable and resilient against various forms of esoteric attacks and abilities. Even tanking his own Fallen Down Over-Tier spell.
-The sheer external size of his final form as a flying spider demon the size of a kaiju.
Not very relevant as other such larger demons in the IY series have been offed rather easily and their size just made them easier targets. It's neat, but then again, Gargantua is basically a kaiju-sized golem and it's a Floor Guardian.

There's also the demon tree, Zy'tl Q'ae, which is 100m tall with 300m long limbs. Which is estimated to be around 80'ish and still child's play for a Floor Guardian.

-The fact that the internal dimensions of his body are even larger than that.
Again, not really relevant for a fight. Yes, his internal structure is actually massive due to him being an amalgamation of scores of demons and has continued to grow and transform his body in many ways using the Shikon shards, but as far as battle purposes go, there isn't really much to say there. Technically it isn't all that different from Ainz's item space. Except that it exists in a pocket dimension that Ainz can directly access himself.
-The fact that he doesn't have any anatomical weakspots and gives all of no shits about anything damaging his body, since he controls all his flesh and can reabsorb any piece of his body that is not outright destroyed.
Yes, there is no brain or heart to fail, thus he can't be killed that way. But he has cared before about leaving himself exposed. Hence all his copies and puppets he made to further his schemes with, all so that he wouldn't be in direct harm. He later was more directly involved because he felt he was powerful enough to take them on directly. But still turned tail when his defenses were breached, because Naraku is, at his core, a coward.

While Naraku can reabsorb parts he separated from himself, he does need to physically interact with them to do this. Like with the part of him that was Human that he excised from himself, only to have to reabsorb it in order to maintain control over his own body, since removing that part made him less stable and more vulnerable than ever before. Something that was wholly unexpected.
Now, there was some fuckery in the very final final battle against the true body of Naraku at the center of Naraku's spider body in which the Sacred Jewel protected him from being sent away by the Cutting Meido and he fused with it, but as far as I can recall that version of Naraku is largely featless since he got his ass purified by Kagome about half a second later.
There are a few things Ainz could theoretically do about the Shikon no Tama.
1. Greater Break Item; A 10th-tier spell that can destroy the highest-level equipment/items in the game, save maybe God-Tier and above. Ainz uses this to destroy the Crown of Wisdom enslaving Nfirea's mind and turning him into a mana font, as removing the crown any other way would instantly drive him insane and kill him. Ainz could use GBI to quite literally destroy the Shikon Jewel and leave no trace of it behind.
2. Wish Upon a Star: Over-Tier Spell. Literally makes any wish happen at the cost of exp, though Ainz has Shooting Star, a ring that allows him to use Wish several times at no cost before the ring becomes non-functional. Ainz could quite literally wish Naraku separate from the Shikon Jewel, or even that Naraku's abilities were transferred to Ainz, or that the Shikon Jewel was completely purified and thus eliminating Naraku.
 
so its just a cut? your going to need to be more clear are we giving naraku hp now or what? cause if so this becomes fan fiction thus not worth debating.

Reality Slash
: A 10th tier spell that is top class in damage dealing, but consumes a lot of mana. The spell is considered to be a lesser version of 'World Break'. By using "Triplet Maximize Magic," Ainz creates three attacks that slashes space itself. It is capable of cleaving through the very fabric of space, and a hit from this powerful attack spell can disregard virtually any form of magical defense.



its a cut that circumnavigate magical defences
 
Reality Slash
: A 10th tier spell that is top class in damage dealing, but consumes a lot of mana. The spell is considered to be a lesser version of 'World Break'. By using "Triplet Maximize Magic," Ainz creates three attacks that slashes space itself. It is capable of cleaving through the very fabric of space, and a hit from this powerful attack spell can disregard virtually any form of magical defense.
its a cut that circumnavigate magical defences

thanks for the clearification!
 

There is no point entertaining this nonsense, the jewel is literally a primal force in the Inuyasha verse, you can't just get rid of a conceptual item with abilities that have never been shown to work at that level, not to mention the literal vs battle set up is that Ainz wants to own it.

If wish on a star was actually useful on the level of the Jewel, Ainz could have just wished his way back into the real world or wish to meet his real life friends and allies, the spell cannot grant this. While the the Jewels wish powers don't have said limitations, they actually do transcend universal barriers and such. Just to clarify, just because the game mechanic says something as idiotic as grants any wish, doesn't make it so, otherwise the plot of Overlord would have been solved on episode 1 with Ainz wishing to achieve his goals. If Ainz really had an omnipotent wish granting ability, there would be no point actually debating him, since he could wish himself to be omnipotent.

It would need to be quantified. Ainz can tank a boosted Holy Attack from the Dominion Authority with statements saying it leveled cities fighting the Evil Gods 200yrs prior. The damage Ainz took was negligible to the point of laughable, despite Ainz being vulnerable to Holy attacks, making them 2x as effective. Which makes Ainz incredibly durable and resilient against various forms of esoteric attacks and abilities. Even tanking his own Fallen Down Over-Tier spell.

Cities in overlord are basically medium sized towns in scale to real life, mountains require significantly more force to destroy, end of series inuyasha characters hit dozens of times harder than that.

Regen can't really do anything about an attack that continuously consumes the target in literal hellfire until there's nothing left.

So basically what the sword of heaven did, except it never killed Naraku since the jewel perpetually kept regenerating him, also worth mentioning, Narakus barrier literally absorbs attacks like this and makes him stronger. Holy / blessed attacks along with attacks that cut through space are the only ones his barrier doesn't easily absorb, but even then he can redirect the damage back to his opponent passively. In order to even use any sort of anti regen ability or magical AOE attack, the barrier must first be destroyed, and it has withstood far stronger attacks than anything Ainz has in his list of spells except reality slash which might be able to bypass it.
 
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no problem hope it clears things up

Can you clarify something else, does Ainz's wish granting ability count as omnipotent and can grant any wish regardless of how ridiculous just because the idiotic game mechanic description says so? If so there is no point even debating his character ever, he can just pull a Madoka and wish his way to literal omnipotent godhood and never lose.
 
Cities in overlord are basically medium towns in scale to real life,


Incorrect. Also irrelevant given no town or settlement shown in IY comes anywhere close to the size of even a moderately sized city like E-Rantel.
There is no point entertaining this nonsense, the jewel is literally a primal force in the Inuyasha verse,
And Ainz killed Gods for loot with the Guild putting their efforts together to create the Guild Weapon, the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown, comprised of the strongest materials in all the realms and embedded with Six Stones. All of which are God-Tier artifacts obtained by farming the likes of Fenrir, Surt and other Mythological deities and entities. Shikon Jewel ain't nuthin.
 
Can you clarify something else, does Ainz's wish granting ability count as omnipotent and can grant any wish regardless of how ridiculous just because the idiotic game mechanic description says so? If so there is no point even debating his character ever, he can just pull a Madoka and wish his way to literal omnipotent godhood and never lose.
It cannot, it does have limits so no need to worry about that. He can't use it to become a God.
Never mind he doesn't really like using it in character .
 

Those are not big, the skyline of a place like Bloomington Minnesota is similar and its a medium sized town.



not say a massive city like Tokyo which is turn is still dwarfed by the force needed to destroy mountains.

And Ainz killed Gods for loot with the Guild putting their efforts together to create the Guild Weapon, the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown, comprised of the strongest materials in all the realms and embedded with Six Stones. All of which are God-Tier artifacts obtained by farming the likes of Fenrir, Surt and other Mythological deities and entities. Shikon Jewel ain't nuthin.

Can any of these god tier artifacts contain their own separate universe / reality within them? Can any of them grant actual high level wishes like "Bring me back to my original universe"? Can they defy causality and come back from being sent to alternate dimensions, the bottom of hell, to a separate universe / timeline. Most importantly, are they actually supported by a concept in the series, as the jewel in Inuyasha is heavily backed by the concept of spiritual energy and as long as the concept exists the Jewel will always come back.
 
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Reality Slash
: A 10th tier spell that is top class in damage dealing, but consumes a lot of mana. The spell is considered to be a lesser version of 'World Break'. By using "Triplet Maximize Magic," Ainz creates three attacks that slashes space itself. It is capable of cleaving through the very fabric of space, and a hit from this powerful attack spell can disregard virtually any form of magical defense.



its a cut that circumnavigate magical defences

How does that do at all against someone who can regenerate from damage or for an item that was able to withstand a literal similar attack in Meidou Zangetsuha from Inuyasha? Whose variation on top of that is literally dozens of those very same slashes?
Reality Slash seems broken as hell... but it's STILL just 3 cuts that ONLY just cleaves space. How much of space does it actually cleave? If it's just a thin cut, then it's worthless for a regenerator like Naraku, let alone the Shikon Jewel which was able to stay in place despite getting hit by dozens of Meidou Zangetsuha at once.

It would need to be quantified. Ainz can tank a boosted Holy Attack from the Dominion Authority with statements saying it leveled cities fighting the Evil Gods 200yrs prior. The damage Ainz took was negligible to the point of laughable, despite Ainz being vulnerable to Holy attacks, making them 2x as effective. Which makes Ainz incredibly durable and resilient against various forms of esoteric attacks and abilities. Even tanking his own Fallen Down Over-Tier spell.

Um Naraku's Miasma is literally so potent it can literally deteriorate an entire Mountain in seconds in later parts of the series(hell before that, his Miasma could already melt the flesh off bones in seconds and kill plant life and forests when he first appeared). That's not that impressive in the long term for how simple but horrifically effective one of Naraku's basic abilities is.

There is no point entertaining this nonsense, the jewel is literally a primal force in the Inuyasha verse, you can't just get rid of a conceptual item with abilities that have never been shown to work at that level, not to mention the literal vs battle set up is that Ainz wants to own it.

This is what makes it funnier:
Kikyo burned her own body and the Sacred Jewel to nothingness in an attempt to get rid of it.
The Sacred Jewel's response?
Literally create a reincarnation of said Priestess hundreds of years later for the express purposes of bringing itself back into the World(and yes, the Shikon Jewel was literally inside of Kagome until the beginning of the series where it got ripped out of her)
This is on top of it at it's peak was not even remotely damaged by Meidou Zangetsuha which literally transports things to hell and thus is a "Reality Slash" of it's own since it's a BFR damage attack.

There is nothing in Ainz's arsenal that's going to stop the Shikon Jewel from existing, none.
 
Literally create a reincarnation of said Priestess hundreds of years later for the express purposes of bringing itself back into the World(and yes, the Shikon Jewel was literally inside of Kagome until the beginning of the series where it got ripped out of her)

Just to clarify how absurd this was with a bit more context, the jewel reincarnated Kikiyo 100s of years later into the future in a different universe with a completely separate timeline, and then the jewel isekai'd the reincarnated Kagome back into the Inuyasha world not 100s of years into the future but only a few years after Kikyo supposedly erased it from existence.
 
Reality Slash seems broken as hell... but it's STILL just 3 cuts that ONLY just cleaves space. How much of space does it actually cleave?
Best showing is bisecting Shalltear but she undid the damage because of her ridiculous time rewind ability.
Vol 3:

And the anime clip of RS in action:


There is nothing in Ainz's arsenal that's going to stop the Shikon Jewel from existing, none.
We've established this ,yes.
 
Can you clarify something else, does Ainz's wish granting ability count as omnipotent and can grant any wish regardless of how ridiculous just because the idiotic game mechanic description says so? If so there is no point even debating his character ever, he can just pull a Madoka and wish his way to literal omnipotent godhood and never lose.

ok so i looked in to the ring shooting star and the spell wish upon a star. from what i have gathered its not omnipotence, it cant be used to counter the hax of a world item and the shikon jewel seems fairly close to a world class item so Ainz cant wish away the Jewel he can however whish for things that will help him like say knowledge on how the jewl works or a miracle arrow that purifies the jewel ect.

How does that do at all against someone who can regenerate from damage or for an item that was able to withstand a literal similar attack in Meidou Zangetsuha from Inuyasha? Whose variation on top of that is literally dozens of those very same slashes?
Reality Slash seems broken as hell... but it's STILL just 3 cuts that ONLY just cleaves space. How much of space does it actually cleave? If it's just a thin cut, then it's worthless for a regenerator like Naraku, let alone the Shikon Jewel which was able to stay in place despite getting hit by dozens of Meidou Zangetsuha at once.
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basically Naraku would take damage from the cut as normal and would then regenerate as normal. if the jewel can survive a similar attack it can survive reality slash though Meido banishes things to the under world if i recall and reality slash is simply cutting through reality to ignore magical defences so i dont see them as all that similar. from the animations i recall reality slash being long thin cuts.
 
basically Naraku would take damage from the cut as normal and would then regenerate as normal. if the jewel can survive a similar attack it can survive reality slash though Meido banishes things to the under world if i recall and reality slash is simply cutting through reality to ignore magical defences so i dont see them as all that similar. from the animations i recall reality slash being long thin cuts.

Its an attack that cuts across space, its exactly the same as the reality slash except for one minor difference, the space it cuts is removed by being teleported to another reality. However it has the exact same effect, deals the same sort of damage, bypasses the same types of durability.

See below video on how Inuyashas version works




Also how the general version works before Inuyasha learned the ability and incorporated into his sword fighting style.

 


its probably the visuals that throw me but yes they are very similar

looks like the jewel can survive reality slash
 


Yeah that's WAY too damn thin to mean anything in comparison to Meidou Zangetsuha(as someone showed it themselves).
And there's no reason Naraku shouldn't be able to just put himself back together with the ability as Dio can after Jonathan cut him in half in Phantom Blood, for example.
 
Just gonna throw out overlord cities should be larger then their historical counterparts at least going by the relativly large population the kingdom (eight million) boast. Beyond that no real comment on this.
 
Just gonna throw out overlord cities should be larger then their historical counterparts at least going by the relativly large population the kingdom (eight million) boast. Beyond that no real comment on this.

Depends entirely on the size of Re-Estize and about that I am pretty sure we have no information.

The modern territories of France and Italy, for example, sustained well over ten million people for long stretches of the Middle Ages.
 
Depends entirely on the size of Re-Estize and about that I am pretty sure we have no information.

The modern territories of France and Italy, for example, sustained well over ten million people for long stretches of the Middle Ages.
Fair the maps we have is rather lack luster, all we really know is restizes is hemmed in by the neighboring countries, and the area's geography shares a resemblance with Saudi Arabia. Where they draw their borders is a bit ambiguous/never really touched on...

Well technically we know the mountain range between the kingdom and empire serves as a natural border and that the city of erantel is a central point between the empire, theocracy, and the kingdom. Called a meeting place of the three nations. Which Leaves us with still vague af idea of how large the territories are or how large the actual areas the maps really represent.
 
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Can any of these god tier artifacts contain their own separate universe / reality within them?
Pretty much every Player in Yggdrasil ended up with a Bag of Infinite Holding. The Shikon Jewel being a pocket spiritual world does not make it special.
Can any of them grant actual high level wishes like "Bring me back to my original universe"?
Players can just use the Over-Tier spell "Wish Upon a Star" for that. Or get the Gate spell, which is what was used as main mode of transit between the Nine realms as it had a 100% success rate an could be opened across infinite distances. Nvm the Shikon Jewel hasn't done that and has only allowed Kagome to travel between two distinct points in space. There needs to be a specific connection for this to work.

Also, have you forgotten the Bead that was in Inuyasha's eye that contained the Graveyward where his father was laid to rest? That's a separate dimension is it not?
Can they defy causality and come back from being sent to alternate dimensions, the bottom of hell, to a separate universe / timeline.
These guy have specific defenses against Time Fuckery itself, and again, the Gate spell and other spells that let them travel to any location they've been to or can perceive. Shikon Jewel ain't do that now is it?
Most importantly, are they actually supported by a concept in the series, as the jewel in Inuyasha is heavily backed by the concept of spiritual energy and as long as the concept exists the Jewel will always come back.
Your idea of concepts have very little meaning when Overlord can conceptualize the actual existence of eldritch horrors to call forth favors from HP Lovecraft's nightmares. Tell me, can the Shikon Jewel make contact with beings beyond human comprehension that exist beyond the boundaries of our universe?


Um Naraku's Miasma is literally so potent it can literally deteriorate an entire Mountain in seconds in later parts of the series(hell before that, his Miasma could already melt the flesh off bones in seconds and kill plant life and forests when he first appeared). That's not that impressive in the long term for how simple but horrifically effective one of Naraku's basic abilities is.
Don't think you understand, but that very thing is like an energy drink for Undead.
This is what makes it funnier:
Kikyo burned her own body and the Sacred Jewel to nothingness in an attempt to get rid of it.
The Sacred Jewel's response?
Literally create a reincarnation of said Priestess hundreds of years later for the express purposes of bringing itself back into the World(and yes, the Shikon Jewel was literally inside of Kagome until the beginning of the series where it got ripped out of her)
Actually, from what I remember, when Kikyo died she had herself cremated with the Shikon Jewel so that her spirit could take it with her to the afterlife in order so that the Jewel could never be used by evil ever again. But since the Jewel was then tied with Kikyo's spirit, when that same spirit was reincarnated, so to was the Jewel back into the physical world. A process which took around 700yrs. The Jewel has never been actually destroyed in any sense before. Just broken to pieces and BFR'd. Since the Jewel itself is spiritual in nature it makes sense that Kikyo could drag it to the spiritual world upon her death.
ok so i looked in to the ring shooting star and the spell wish upon a star. from what i have gathered its not omnipotence, it cant be used to counter the hax of a world item and the shikon jewel seems fairly close to a world class item so Ainz cant wish away the Jewel he can however whish for things that will help him like say knowledge on how the jewl works or a miracle arrow that purifies the jewel ect.
Overlord Vol.3
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When the wave subsided, Ainz realized that Wish Upon a Star in this world was something totally different from what it had been in Yggdrasil.
When he'd learned of Nfirea's talent, he had fantasized that maybe he could steal it using Wish Upon a Star, and it turned out that that was not off the mark. Wish Upon a Star had changed into a spell that could grant his wish. It did depend on how many experience points he spent, but it was a spell that could make the impossible possible. It had also transformed in this world so that by sacrificing five levels -- using 500 percent of his experience points -- it could grant more powerful wishes.
Shikon Jewel can be powerful, but certainly not on the level of a World Item. World Item's are Absolutes. They are the Leaves of the World Tree given form. The very leaves that sustain and hold upon them the existence of the Nine Realms connected to the World Tree. One such World Item can change the way the very systems of magic itself work. That'd be like having the ability to make all Spiritual Abilities and power only capable of making cakes. Ouroboros, one of the Twenty most powerful World Items, takes that a step further and can completely overwrite reality in any way the wielder sees fit. While it can only be used once, it makes the Shikon Jewel look to be little more than a glass pebble.

The Shikon Jewel cannot grant any wish beyond its power and for it to do more, it needs to build more power over time. And fun fact; the Red Orb seen on Ainz's person is a World Item that grows more powerful the longer he's in possession of it. And according to the Web Novel, using it's full power will drain his levels. Like with Wish Upon a Star, with no easy way for Ainz to farm large amounts of experience, it's something he avoids using unless completely necessary. Though in a Vs debate, there won't be any consequences to consider when using such things.
 
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Pretty much every Player in Yggdrasil ended up with a Bag of Infinite Holding. The Shikon Jewel being a pocket spiritual world does not make it special.
Every player you mean the one player that we know of you're talking about video game mechanics in comparison to the fact that only one player actually is known to us

Like literally that's like every storage in a video game we don't know where it leads to it's just a separate place where they hold their items it's not that special and can't be compared to the actual afterlife
Players can just use the Over-Tier spell "Wish Upon a Star" for that. Or get the Gate spell, which is what was used as main mode of transit between the Nine realms as it had a 100% success rate an could be opened across infinite distances. Nvm the Shikon Jewel hasn't done that and has only allowed Kagome to travel between two distinct points in space. There needs to be a specific connection for this to work.

Also, have you forgotten the Bead that was in Inuyasha's eye that contained the Graveyward where his father was laid to rest? That's a separate dimension is it not?
The jewel inside the eye was a portal leading to the nether realm it was not some freaking thing containing it

Wish has never display anything to affect something like the sacred jewel in the first place it has a certain number of wishes it can be made which we don't even know all of them in the first place
, from what I remember, when Kikyo died she had herself cremated with the Shikon Jewel so that her spirit could take it with her to the afterlife in order so that the Jewel could never be used by evil ever again. But since the Jewel was then tied with Kikyo's spirit, when that same spirit was reincarnated, so to was the Jewel back into the physical world. A process which took around 700yrs. The Jewel has never been actually destroyed in any sense before. Just broken to pieces and BFR'd. Since the Jewel itself is spiritual in nature it makes sense that Kikyo could drag it to the spiritual world upon her death.
It seems someone never read the Manga or watch the anime because the jewel was never connected to Kikyo. when Kikyo try to destroy the Jewel and take it to the Afterlife with her it just transported to Kagome. who actually doesn't have a connection to Kikyo she has a connection to the original Priestess that's in the jewel
Your idea of concepts have very little meaning when Overlord can conceptualize the actual existence of eldritch horrors to call forth favors from HP Lovecraft's nightmares. Tell me, can the Shikon Jewel make contact with beings beyond human comprehension that exist beyond the boundaries of our universe?
So summoning creatures is this infallible ability now huh come on man stop.

The sacred jewel has flat-out been shown to create life from nothing so they're virtually the same thing in the Beast that they summon are just the game's mechanics the world's once again hasn't been really explain. These creatures are only as powerful as we've ever seen them be which isn't even that strong.
Shikon Jewel can be powerful, but certainly not on the level of a World Item. World Item's are Absolutes. They are the Leaves of the World Tree given form. The very leaves that sustain and hold upon them the existence of the Nine Realms connected to the World Tree. One such World Item can change the way the very systems of magic itself work. That'd be like having the ability to make all Spiritual Abilities and power only capable of making cakes. Ouroboros, one of the Twenty most powerful World Items, takes that a step further and can completely overwrite reality in any way the wielder sees fit. While it can only be used once, it makes the Shikon Jewel look to be little more than a glass pebble.

The Shikon Jewel cannot grant any wish beyond its power and for it to do more, it needs to build more power over time. And fun fact; the Red Orb seen on Ainz's person is a World Item that grows more powerful the longer he's in possession of it. And according to the Web Novel, using it's full power will drain his levels. Like with Wish Upon a Star, with no easy way for Ainz to farm large amounts of experience, it's something he avoids using unless completely necessary. Though in a Vs debate, there won't be any consequences to consider when using such things.
Other than the fact that that the Demons Inside of the jewel flat out said they can grant any wish
a item which he has never used or displayed how much powerful he gets by holding it so we can't actually bring it up here
 
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Don't think you understand, but that very thing is like an energy drink for Undead.

Um, prove it? Don't just say it because it doesn't really matter much when already have plenty of times Naraku's Miasma has been shown to be effective against inorganic objects like the very Fang of Inuyasha's Father that "killed" Ryukotsei as a basic example? And that's before he got even stronger and Miasma got even more potent?

Actually, from what I remember, when Kikyo died she had herself cremated with the Shikon Jewel so that her spirit could take it with her to the afterlife in order so that the Jewel could never be used by evil ever again. But since the Jewel was then tied with Kikyo's spirit, when that same spirit was reincarnated, so to was the Jewel back into the physical world. A process which took around 700yrs. The Jewel has never been actually destroyed in any sense before. Just broken to pieces and BFR'd. Since the Jewel itself is spiritual in nature it makes sense that Kikyo could drag it to the spiritual world upon her death.

I don't know who told you that as that's never how that occurred in the series...
Kagome is just a reincarnation of Kikyo but otherwise has zero connections to her(the series literally goes into this so many times, including the fact that Kikyo's own ressurection wouldn't need the entirety of Kagome's soul and a new body if they was 1 to 1).
But the Shikon Jewel explicitly had a hand in creating Kagome and enforced her to BE a Reincarnation in the first place so it can come back into being and then arrange it's methods to transport itself back to the same time period but 50 years later.
And the Jewel was explicitly destroyed, not BFR'd or else it wouldn't need that entire process in the first place since it would have just went back on it's own.
 

Other than the fact that that the Demons Inside of the jewel flat out said they can grant any wish
a item which he has never used or displayed how much powerful he gets by holding it so we can't actually bring it up here


ok can the jewel grant any wish yes or no?

could the jewel resurrect it self in 50+years if it was wished away?

has the jewl ever shown any resistance to similar ability's to wish?

if i know this i will make a final and definitive ruling.
 
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could the jewel resurrect it self in 50+years if it was wished
ok can the jewel grant any wish yes or no?

could the jewel resurrect it self in 50+years if it was wished away?

has the jewl ever shown any resistance to similar ability's to wish?

if i know this i will make a final and definitive ruling.

away?
The Creator already said this in the interview it comes back every 500 years if someone wishes it's away
has the jewl ever shown any resistance to similar ability's to wish?
No because it's kind of the only wish granting device in the story. the creator did say that it does get destroyed every 500 years and comes back
ok can the jewel grant any wish yes or no?
It really depends on how you take it has granted every wish that has been wished upon it.

Several characters have stated it can do any but the jewel itself seems to decide on how the wishes going to act out.

Kikyo was granted instantaneously the jewel went to the Afterlife with her but then it decided to come out anyway.

Naraku successfully erase the soul of the old Priestess from existence

And the Jewel destroyed itself immediately after kagome's wish.

Naraku's wish to be with Kikyo was never fulfilled until both of them were dead cheap way to get to heaven but okay

Although at the time the jewel was actively being counterproductive so it could fulfill its own wish.
 
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