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>>8343159
>racist human looks on in disgust at new alien immigrant

>>8343436
But he's the immigrant

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Reminder that in Halo lore, Unggoy have a thriving music industry and black market for human media in thier post-Covenant society.
There's a nonzero chance that pic related is an actual music video

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>>8343753
I wonder if there's an Unggoy who loves Mozart... But I'm not against the idea of sangheili twerking either.

>>8343068 (OP)
RE: Trek redesigns, the cardies need more robust pred legs. They look silly unless they were on all fours. Didn't care for the Ferengi either. For an acquisitive species they should have hands more suited to grasping. As is, they look barely capable of tool use.

The Bajorans weren't too bad. Wouldn't mind seeing Kira as The Intendent. Or with her.

>>8343629
He still adjusting to eating bugs.

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>>8344092
>For an acquisitive species they should have hands more suited to grasping. As is, they look barely capable of tool use.
So you'd prefer something like this but no

>>8344295
Better. One could still have the wings + hands though it might take a bit of finessing.
Ideally the series should have gone with something more like those naked mole-rat looking dudes who trade information.

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>>8343809
>Cuddling with your gas-sucker gf in Zero G, watching the sunrises over Balaloo while listening to smooth jazz

>>8343166
deltav is the da vinci of /xeno/. blessed be their heart

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>>8344645
What do you mean? He's never drawn for this place. Plus, he's usually drawing furries/scalies.

>>8343159
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>>8343436
love these little goobers

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>>8344311
Yeah for some reason the "but no webbed fingers" part of my comment was cut out. And what about this for Cardassians?

Course this makes Major answers much smaller than the other species.

>>8345130
>Major answers
Bajorans. I hate phoneposting

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>>8343166
You're missing the rest

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>>8345263
Too bad valbarans have only gotten three and a third of a story, none of which really exploring anything beyond the surface level.

>>8345269
This isn't going like her fanfic at all.
Fun fact: The Valbarans probably started writing novels about steamy relations with Earth'nay within a year of first contact, and had a fully developed fanon about humans by the time of the Battle of Ker'guela.

>>8345269
kek

>>8345312
if we're being realistic it's a whole planet there was probably a flock doing a writer's room during the siege of val'bara itself while bugs were landing

>>8345355
>planetary goon session

>>8345130
Also an improvement. There again it was mostly just those stubby little legs that were the problem with the other design..

>Course this makes Bajorans much smaller than the other species.

Size difference is always good.
Now I have an amusing image of a bunch of rebels swarming a cardassian.

>>8345255
Mmmm lore yes please.

>>8344706
Neither did Da Vinci to be fair

>hyperactive sex crazed female saurian aliens
hell, that comic is practically heaven!

>>8345681
It also makes Dukat's obsession with Kira a lot funnier

>>8343753
this is more dystopian than the looming threat of of a space-faring theological genocide cult ever was

>>8345312
>Ker'guela.
hey wait a minute that's like a french island near one of the poles isnt it

Y'all motherfuckers are species traitors. For real.

How realistic the idea of a xeno waifu being from smaller "proud and noble" species that are coincidentally very pick-uppabble and huggable (but that's demeaning and being seen picked up is grand damage to their pride and honor, and you risk having your eyes clawed out for such disrespect) (but also guilty pleasure, actually likes to be carried around and riding on your neck, as long as nobody sees. Will never admit it, though.)

>>8345263
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>>8345255
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>>8343159
>tfw alien girl will never display pretty feathers to attract you as potential mate
Guess I'll go blueball ostriches at zoo, closest thing I can imagine.

>>8343068 (OP)
What's your typical acceptance for altered humans?
I don't mean the aliens, I mean a setting where human augments can change their appearances and capabilities? At what point does it get too strange to be human in your opinion?

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>>8346673
For the thread in general or in fiction? Because the thread has been fine with All Tomorrows for awhile. But in most fiction, I could accept almost anything within reason, depending on the setting. If a story has laws and conventional societies, post-humans like the snake people shouldn't exist. If it's a fucked up world that exploits the human genome, it's fair game and more interesting that way.
>At what point does it get too strange to be human in your opinion?
Biologically, if post-humans can still reproduce (without complication) with other humans in any conventional capacity (including artificial insemination,) they are still human. But in my opinion, as soon as they go tier 5 or above, the ship has sailed on being called human.

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Teng here, no new content, busy ass week, but hopefully late today or tomorrow will have some stuff

Been enjoying all those trek alien redesigns, I've always wanted to see more stuff with the tholians, but at the same time I don't want to see how shit the current crop of ST writers would make it. maybe if it were the lower decks writers but I'm guessing they are all getting canned with LD being cancelled. Also anyone got an artist link for whoever did those redesigns last thread?

>>8344706
eyyy whats a drawfag gotta do to get in on the memes?

In fairness I've drawn a shitload of viper stuff and that's basically scaly shit, so who cares. Everyone here is on the "into nonhuman forms" shit, every minor distinction is semantics. I think deltav coincidentally just found /xeno/ made stuff once it broke to an audience outside of this very niche thread.

>>8345257
I always appreciate when someone goes the insane extra route of drawing their meme/ref in the exact style to mimic where its from. Peak disco elysium meme. I'm not a huuuge fan of deltav's style at times admittedly but they're hard working and have fun ideas. Keep on it king

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>>8346804
The only source I can get the trek stuff from is from here. The sign in pop-up is really annoying, though.
>polarwooly tumblr com/archive/tagged/star%20trek
I've shared their stuff in the thread a few time in the past to little interest, but it seems they're more trekies here than there used to be.

As fun as deltav's comic is to read, it's a little sad knowing >>8345260 is probably the most explicit it's going to get. Guess I'll have to wait on the other comic.

>>8346673
It doesn't. While one should avoid chopping off perfectly good limbs just for the robo replacement human is a state of mind rather than a body state to me.
>>8346849
>most explicit it's going to get
Call me a prude but I prefer the more modest tantalization over the more explicit. Having a bit of fun with the story helps too.

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>>8346927
I like softcore too, but getting explicit nonhumanoid stuff is rare as hell. You can have both that and fun moments in a nsfw comic, too. That's what I like to look forward to.

>>8346804
>In fairness I've drawn a shitload of viper stuff
AND YOU REFUSE TO GIVE IT TO ME
Or upload anywhere
I have to scour archives and every thread for your stuff REEEEEEE

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>>8346096
There's a good chance that your short stack Grunt gf listens to the Unggoy equivalent of Takeshi 69

>>8347179
>ungalo sengrunt

>>8344295
>>8345130
> trek redesigns

> Ferengi
Good. Having double-jointed legs means they can practically change their height. This gives a very business-like mannerism, where they change how they approach a customer; make themselves smaller for small customers to put them at ease (if they want to be polite to a new customer) and taller for larger customers they might be intimidated by... and presumably reaching products on a top shelf.

> gooey Odo
lol

>Cardassians
Being larger than humans would actually make Garak's claustrophobia even worse, as small spaces would be even more intolerably constricting.
Also, >>8345681
>Now I have an amusing image of a bunch of rebels swarming a cardassian.

And i have an amusing image of fuzzy little Kira being on Cardassia teaching the local giant reptile people (who have probably never seen a Bajoran in person) on how to rebel against the Dominion.
> "This is what beat us on Bajor?!"
"Yes, and -this- is what's going to help you liberate your home from the Dominion"
lol
> Kira pulls out a Cardassian energy weapon that's too large for her
lmao, even.

>>8347637
> they're the exact same way when they have sex
> incompetently
OH NO

>>8346849
nice thanks, they've got good stuff so far, look forward to perusing their gallery

speaking for myself at least been busy AF, and threads seemed slow so perhaps it was the same for others, hence why not much response from people

>>8347006
it seems to be a balance few manage well. often smut goes hand in hand with terrible court of thorns tier writing, and good writing goes along with, "fucking is fade to black only"

>>8347050
I uploaded most of it to E6 a bit ago so you can check there. Will have some new viper content soon for ya.

>>8347637
>bachelor flock only orders out doesn't know how to cook
Get space Gordon Ramsay in here

>>8346773
>>8346927
I ask cause I was writing something that started off as pure smut but...it's getting space opera-y with the way I'm explaining off the original premise. In a nutshell humans take a little after Iain Banks' Culture and something that is a combination of Star Trek's Federation, Borg and Dominion wrapped into one.
>Humans are descendants of a colony ship that punched through to another galaxy, most of the colonists did not survive
>Descendants have a spotty record of their past, so they don't have all the details
>What they do know is that there were supposed to be female humans at one point
>Jury rigged technology let their ancestors assimilate local aliens to be compatible with the human genome
>Men are still outwardly baseline human, but posses adaptations from alien mothers.

And a bunch of other details I'm still working out.

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>>8347824
>At what point does it get too strange to be human in your opinion?
Regarding the thread I've no advise.
Speaking to the larger question, you might want to familiarize yourself with the Orion's Arm setting. Some settings are 20 minutes into the future. OA tries to suggest what things might really be like 10,000 years into the future. One of the points they make is Humanity itself has a creative drive to explore the bizarre in what life can be. The few aliens encountered in the setting are prosaic as compared to humanity. Most aliens, on first contact with humanity, Terragen civilization as they call themselves, would assume we're many multiple species and distinct civilizations, rather than a varied group from one original home world.
My limits would be something incomprehensible, or, perhaps, anti-human.
With regard to overall tolerance for strangeness in smut, I much more prefer things like sex crazed XCom vipers. Whereas, sex crazed Mu'uh crabs from OA are comical, but lacking in erotic titillation potential.

>>8347856
>OA tries to suggest what things might really be like 10,000 years into the future.
My setting leaves that up in the air. Some of humanity's technology is leagues ahead of everyone else, in others it lags far behind. Humans aren't even dure if they are in their target galaxy.
>Ine of the points they make is Humanity itself has a creative drive to explore the bizarre in what life can be.
Oh for sure, though for mine it's to see how they can fuck it.
>I much more prefer things like sex crazed XCom vipers. Whereas, sex crazed Mu'uh crabs from OA are comical,
What if I told you I had both?

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Consider
>Being a chieftainess's slave

>>8347680
One thing that didn't come up the the last thread (but might've in older ones) is all the surgical alteration that goes on too. A bit more complicated in this context than the usual ear jobs and cranial enhancements.

>>8347989
Yeah. Then one of her tribes eats you. No like actually guts you because brutes don't mind eating human.
Bang a sanghelli or somethin' at least you can survive it.

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hot of the /hmofa/ presses

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>>8347989
I know a thing or two about how slaves were treated. And no, I am not talking about USA.

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>>8348351
Precisely why you need to be an excellent servant. In order to survive, you must thrive.
Do a good enough job, and you can eat after her during the regular messy banquets. Just don't think too much about the meat

anyone got hoomanex yautja cowgirl vid?
this one, but the blurred ones?
https://e621.net/posts/4504714

>>8346804
i think that meme is at least a few years old

>>8347989
UGLY WIFE

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>>8348675
NO SHE'S PRETTY

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>>8347707
I've posted pics from that gallery for a few years, closer to when the threads used to have more regular discussions, too. Guess it just wasn't the right time for it then.

Smut is often very hit-or-miss. Most artist don't tend to be decent at writing, so we get all the intentional meme-level scripts instead. Although it has its issues, Alfie is a surprisingly nice example. For what it is, anyway. Decent character work from what I remember.

Also, I remember you said you were okay with people saving your work in the past. Would you mind if more got posted on esix?

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Don't remember but I might have forgotten to post this pic last thread

>>8348844
Yeah alfie is top tier stuff. Incase is goals.

I don't care if people save my stuff, I'm not some weirdo who thinks they should or for that matter have the ability to tell others what to do. Do whatever you want, I quite literally cannot stop you. I'm just lazy and private, so don't want to manage more accounts than I absolutely have to.

As an aside on the artists telling people what to do; Holy shit the stuff I have sometimes seen other artists post about like, "no one else is allowed to draw my char and you cant draw it doing xyz" as if they can stop anyone on the internet from doing anything. If you don't like what someone is doing with X then all you gotta do is just not look at it.

>>8348158
Imma be real it just is drawn more like fur than feathers

>>8347824
>There were supposed to be female humans
to be honest, the plot point of having all the f humans die feels like too obvious a contrived reason to have their be xeno fucking. It feels harem anime tier plot point

>>8348892
>It feels harem anime tier plot point
That's exactly how it started. But since then I've been fleshing out the characters so it's more than a 5 minute meetn'fuck and it's sort of ballooned out of control. It's now a 3-arc series about a human overseeing the uplift of a belligerent species on the cusp of nuclear war, a captain investigating a hostile power of equal size, and a scientist whose experiment sent them to the other side of the galaxy.

I've hit a snag as the relative size of the setting has made the lack of female humans a non-issue, but at the same time that was one of the driving forces that founded the civilization that's now expanding in an unknown space. I'm conflicted whether I should drop it altogether, keep it and use it more, or just leave it in the background.

>>8348717
PRETTY UGLY

>>8349212
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>8349212
>>8350800
no way

>>8348158
nice eyes!

>>8351859
The fact that I will never live on a world where one of these autistic worms will happily stand on a street corner all day just waiting for a chance to tell someone a bunch of fun facts and history about wherever they currently are makes me sad

sex with space women

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>>8351859
Its funny to see the soft dextrous hands thing still around in /xeno/ discourse when it was just a one off sketch thing from years ago. More effect from that 3min sketch than anything I've put actual effort in to since lol

>>8348994
I think as a setting grows you realize more of what you want it to be about and that can sometimes mean drastic changes to how it started, I wouldn't worry too much about changing the initial conditions you made for it if it makes it better overall and closer to your vision

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boom, fresh viper content, more to come

>>8347050
there ya go

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Also finished up a Khanivore thing that had sketched up ages ago and only now went bag and finished

>>8353781
Where's the clit?

>>8353798
Deeper in, get that hand up in those guts boiyah

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Look at what you did /xeno/

>>8354713
I'm already FTL'ing out of the second closest star system.

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>>8351859
I fucking love these things

>>8354713
>tfw no Yautja waifu

>>8354856
i want to cuddle the everloving hell out of one

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Any fellow turian enjoyers present?

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>>8355308
Yes, we're just lacking of new content to post.

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>>8355312

>>8354713
Paleolithic Venus-tier

>>8355308
>>8355312
do you think their bdsm gear involves tools that look like crab openers?

>>8355871
This is kinda uncanny. Durian but the fave plates melt tmiddle. the closer you get to the middle.

>>8355871
>bareface
Shoot her

>>8357225
Anon, you're drunk.

>>8357296
kek

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>>8359205

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>>8359211

>>8359205
>>8359211
>>8359213
These are pretty darn good. Know the artist by any chance?

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For the one femxenophile here.

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>>8359479
I'll pitch in for them too

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>Hey hey people, Sseth here. Humanity. One day we will inevitably reach the stars, and one day we will inevitably reach other intelligent, sentient, yet utterly alien races. We will shake their many appendages, engage in trade, exchange ideas, and even attempt... diplomacy. But we all know, inevitably, how this has to end. Fish tits. It ends with the cold embrace of fish tits.

>>8359491
I hope that Kally gets to fuck her, he's a good lad.
I'm honestly surprised Val hasn't drawn it yet given the Patrons usually jump at the story-wise stuff.

>>8356428
Where do you think the cavemen got the inspiration?

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>>8359915
And yes I know this is elixxer but I forgot to change the file name

>>8359473
https://www.tumblr.com/clawslut/718181808304488448/xenos-other-friends
Unfortunately that’s all the xeno stuff they’ve made

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>>8359211
imagine deep kissing with a xenomorph and her little mouth tongue thing goes into your own mouth

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>>8360344

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I want to massage some Yautja feet

>>8359915
isn't this spl4ts
and
>>8359944
this encryptid machine?

>>8359491
>>8359668
Source

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>>8361323
https://www.valsalia.com/comic/out-of-placers/oops-279/

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>>8359479

>>8358645
>no Pierson's Puppeteer porn

>>8359668
Val doesn't really do explicit porn.

>>8361887
Hold her hair back you oaf!

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Some more fresh content. Any feedback on this or stuff posted earlier in the thread?

>>8362855
very nice work he better be careful or he have explain the scars on his face

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>>8361389
thanx

>>8362855
Love the bony rendering for the tough parts. It feels like it'd make more sense than chitin given her size t. not a biologist THOUGH

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>>8363522
no problem

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How do you relax your xeno So after a long day?

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>>8333957
>trek redesigns
Just imagining how those big eyes would look on a female Vorta. Would it be unnerving or cute when she stares at you with those big eyes?

>>8365176
Lilara 10
>Defective Vorta GF
>Defective because her obsession is with you instead of the Founders.
>Knows the sound of your heart from sleeping on your chest. Can find you anywhere following that sound.
>Can't taste anything, enjoys eating with you simply as an excuse to be with you.
>Loves games, and will demand to play with you anytime you do.
>Pretends to not notice her tongue is out because she knows you think it's cute.
>Took the phrase "more of me to love" literally. Wonders if getting Lilara 11and Lilara 12 would make you happier
>No appreciation for art. Can't tell it apart from porn and will display your stash because you told her art should be hung on a wall.

Like an alien autistic waifu

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>>8365388
SHE'S EATING HIM

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>>8365176
>>8365645
Like this?

>>8367156
cute

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Something I like about alien stuff is the trope of them not being able to keep up/resist having sex with humans.

Extra points if they become addicted, submissive to human sex

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>>8368492

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>>8368493

Kind of wish there was a follow up for this 3 images with even more lust addict vipers

>>8368498
amogus 0_0

>>8367156
kek a cute bat.

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>>8368620

Fun fact there’s a lot of alien impostor art (also fuck you)

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>https://archiveofourown.org/works/39895998/chapters/145498216

>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14112773/7/Vipers-Nights-and-French-Fries

What's up dudes? AP here to post here to post a new chapter of Vipers, Nights, and French Fries. Chapter 7 is comin' at ya in a big 11,830 word package.

Synopsis is: My, my, there's a lotta shit happening and so little time to explain it all. Uhh... with their rivalry ended, the heroes of our tale may yet find a friendship blossoming between them. But much like in real life, reality comes knocking with some unfortunate circumstances. There are many negatives to working in customer service and what occurs is just one aspect of those. After that our heroes are both put into a distressed state. Will they seek each other out for support, or succumb to despair? You will have to read to find out.

There's a part of this chapter I've been excited to write since I first started work on this story. Pic rel.

As always, I appreciate any and all feedback. Constructive, or not.

And, as I've said the last few chapters I've posted, I apologize for the wait. Was on vacation for a month, new job, work, yadda yadda, still in training, blah blah. This will hopefully be my last month of training, so fingers crossed, I MAY be able to get this next chapter out sooner than THREE MONTHS, we shall see.

Hope you enjoy this I put a lot of work into it. It was really hard dialing in Tay's personality this chapter. I want to depict her realistically with the mind of a woman, her motivations, her actions being led by emotion, everything. And I feel I dipped into that quite well this chapter, but let me know what you think.

>>8345130
in a way this reminds me more of the Jem'Hadar than the Kardashians, but I do like the idea of leaning into that scaled, horned look they have in a literal way

>>8359590
The frog merchants from endless space 2 do have remarkably big tits

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>>8368493
>>8368498
>>8369212

Speaking of X-COM’s Vipers, I made a request in this simple art thread

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and got this love piece <3

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Such a pretty girl <3

>>8369212
goog job, was fun

>>8365176
I'm gonna be honest. Turning the Trek designs into furry bait isn't exactly a great re-imagining of classics.

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>>8371455
And I think you're forgetting the Vorta were descended from forest dwelling apes that lived inside trees

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>>8371606
So were humans but we don't look like fuzzy anthropomorphic bats. I think at best the argument could be made that the Changelings genetically altered their bodies to make them fit in with other species for better diplomacy, but in Star Trek most intelligent species are tall, humanoid, and not covered in fur.

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>>8371651
>So were humans but we don't look like fuzzy anthropomorphic bats.
No we left the trees and went to the plains. The ones that stayed in the trees look like this

>>8371651
>in Star Trek most intelligent species are tall, humanoid, and not covered in fur
No all species had been tampered by precursors to look the same as a way to pass off humans wearing plastic headridges as alien.

>>8371743
>those 2-3 different alien furry cat people in star trek
The trek comics and original cartoon liked going with the more alien looking aliens since they could get away with it more due to not needing to make/costume up actors.
You'd be surprised just how many scifi settings have cat people in them

>>8371951
Yeah, and they all followed the same humanoid body structure. But according to
>>8371651
That makes them furry bait.

>>8371951
Counting all media, at least five, matched or exceeded by the number of scalies, plus a few insectoids, avians, etc.

>>8371651
Saves on tiny little costume/special effects budget.

>>8360344
The ultimate coyote date.

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deployment in T-minus 60, please perform final equipment check.

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>>8345312
Anon needs to avoid their browser history at all costs.

>>8344706
rong. Your deltaV lore is terrible. Terrible! /xeno/ was one of the first places I started posting my doodles online. Mainly as shitty fanart for the stories Advent Provides and On the Fringes. Oh and that raptor alien with the 80's perm (I was not very creative).

>>8346804
Hi Teng, been a while. Thank you for the kind words, but you wound me. I can't believe you've forgotten my old shitty doodles from like 3 years ago! See picrel. I think this must've been an alien lass that you were drawing at the time, and I always found it inspiring on how you could come up with such inventive designs. Still do, too!

>>8369212
as someone who essentially works at a McDougall's i love this story, good work anon

>>8344295
source?

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I big fan of Al-an (big Minotaur alien) X Robin (black girl) stuff

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Got some fresh T'vaoan content

>>8372423
oh damn, I think I missed ever seeing that pic somehow! Must have just not been around in the thread when it got posted or something! There is nothing more flattering than fanart, ty!! It is fun to see your growth over time, keep on it!

>>8371455
>>8371606
>>8371987
The talk about what is/is not furry for alien designs is just exhausting. Why limit what features you put an an alien design just because other people elsewhere have a subcommunity with a specific set of design elements? World is your oyster, use whatever design features you think work well for a design and don't worry about if some other group uses X elements and you don't like them so you won't use those elements. To do otherwise is to just kneecap yourself for no reason.

>>8363556
Thanks! was definitely trying to convey the boney/chitinous texture of it so glad that came through

>>8369212
Glad to see you're back! Read the last two chapters, and compiled feedback!
As a heads up some parts could be considered harsh but remember its all done with love, just giving the most honest feedback I can. Its long so I'll put it in a followup post

>>8374169
Whats this from?

>>8374366
>>8369212
(teng cont feedback)
Chapt 6
Well done bits:
>The bit with the elder jab being clearly a sore spot and a bridge too far
>The chewing out by the manager on both of them was well done I think
>good bit with all the little things you panic about before a date, very realistic stuff.
>Finally getting to some character growth, very much enjoying it, finally getting some good payoff! had been lots on internal screaming from cringe early on so glad we're here.

Constructive criticisms:
>Mentioning how Thorn is hard to miss and then almost immediately following it up with "A girl with long dark hair, wearing big sunglasses walked into the corner of my vision" is the most obvious chekov's gun possible. I think you could remove that line and it would make the reveal better.
>"I haven't been hugged by anyone in a long time" a bit showey and not telly, I don't think someone would internal monologe that directly on what it was about, I think better to reword as enjoyment at the specific sensation/surprise of it. Plus you have the line where he mentions not being hugged in a long time to Thorn right after this that gets the point across anyway.

>>8374378
(teng cont feedback)
Chapt 7
Well done bits:
>dialog at the start feels like a natural transition to the friendly aggresive jabbing and not actually hostile jabs
>wow the gold thing was a twist I assumedyou were going for a guy who was off his rocker and maybe on something lmao, color me interested.
>Tay overcompensating trying to put on a happy face felt realistic
>Tay putting on a show at the mall was generally well done, intentionally trying to be offputting, sort of an emotional defense mechanism.
>between Thorn mentioning astrology and the scene in the shop with Essy noticing a magic throughline, where is this going?

>>8374389
(more chapt 7 feedback)
Constructive criticisms:
> "What you called my belly is more like the bottom of your foot." more accurately should be almost like abs, the tail/vestigial pelvic bits are at the very tip end of the snake. the length is an extension of the bones and musculature of the ribs/belly. I suppose you could argue a viper/snake species could consider it a foot, but I assume it would certainly not feel or have the sensation of feet. Could do some interesting rewording to have her get across the sensation? IDK, something to think about, never hurts to play up the alien aspects of these things in an ayyy romance fic.
>Intentional or not the robber comes off a bit close to the black criminal stereotype. Like a joke lifted right out of the boondocks. Even barring that kinda feels kinda of out of place in this future post alien invasion society, I think his diaglog could use reworking.
>hispanic character says pendejo, and I fill out another part of my lazy hollywood writing bingo sheet lol. Its probably fine to leave in DESU, but to be at least felt silly.
>"trying to keep it together now that I was only two feet away from all her hotness" kinda awkward/clunky phrasing?
>"Should have killed the robber" kind of extreme, most in that situation you'd more expect someone to come out thinking that they could have stopped it disabled the person; their thoughts would be more focused on reducing the harm of the situation rather than exerting harm to the attacker; Its a moment of trying to help, not a revenge plot. Makes the chars come off a smidge overly violent.

Neutral
>Even from hints in chapter 6 figured out Tay/Thorn are roommates. Could be good or bad depending on how easy you want it to be for the reader to figure out.
>The "You're not telling me something" bit with Tay makes sense but also feels like a rehash of that similar convo with Thorn. You've got two love interests you want to contrast but you've got these very similar scenes between them.

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>>8374366
>Whats this from?
Subnautuca: Below Zero

>>8376075
Now that's the Alien vs. Predator I'm interested in!

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>>8343068 (OP)
>>Rules:
>*Limited futa and A.I., just don't spam it.
>**No aliens at level 2 or below, refer to the chart in the imgur link (Replace when needed.)**
Oh, good, I'm in the clear. (pic related is just an early wip drawing, she's changed a bit)

Okay, I was told you guys might be interested in this and I asked DeltaV and he said sure why not so in my book that's glowing endorsement.

So, here's...
Broken Sanctuary, Chapter 7
>https://rentry.org/brokensanctuary
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/57275167/chapters/145690765
>https://www.sofurry.com/view/2152922

I'll give the rundown of the entire thing:
Our girl Venka is a huntress of the Hollow Reed Tribe on an out of the way planet that was visited by the very bad and very mysterious Sky People a long, long time ago that took many of them and forever changed the landscape. Unrelated to that, they've been at war with a race they know as the Low People that seeks to wipe them out completely and so they decided it was best to go where their enemy could not. On the way a lot of very sad and very unfortunate things happened to them, and then a lot of fire started to fall from the sky, but they found a nice place to rest for a few days in a valley. Venka, the best scout in the tribe, is sent ahead to find a way over the steep valley. However, something else catches her eye. Investigating, she finds a strange ruin and locates a single survivor within. I won't say anything else and spoil the fun.

I hope you guys enjoy it, I'm actually having fun for a change writing this one. :)

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It's never getting updated is it?

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>>8377469
There's a higher probability of World War 3 starting in the next few years than v3 releasing.

>>8372568
I once worked at a place similar to McDougalls as well. Totally not channeling my repressed rage from years ago into this story to make it feel more real, lmao.

>>8374366
Nah man, don't sweat it. I've got a thick skin, you kinda have to when you put stuff you create out there. I really appreciate you taking the time to give me some detailed constructive feedback.

>>8374378
>Finally getting to some character growth
Yup, Vince and Tay from here on out are gonna be changing slowly, over time, of course.
>had been lots on internal screaming from cringe early on
Vince is very much intended to be cringy in some ways. Hey young, he's awkward, borderline autistic, a bit dumb, ect. I really have tried to capture those aspects of being ~18.

>Mentioning how Thorn is hard to miss and then almost immediately following it up with "A girl with long dark hair, wearing big sunglasses walked into the corner of my vision" is the most obvious chekov's gun possible. I think you could remove that line and it would make the reveal better.
I hadn't heard someone say that before and I agree. At the time I felt like I had to mention her walking into frame, but if she was already sitting there, and I described her like I did everyone else sitting around there, it would make it more of a surprise.

>I haven't been hugged by anyone in a long time" a bit showey and not telly
Sometimes I repeat information in writing unintentionally. I agree, easy fix to cut that out and leave his dialogue in.

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>>8344706
>>8346804
>no Guido in the memes either
madness

>>8374389
>wow the gold thing was a twist I assumedyou were going for a guy who was off his rocker and maybe on something lmao, color me interested.
That dude was off his rocker and probably on something, lmao. However, his intel was not.

>Tay putting on a show at the mall was generally well done, intentionally trying to be offputting, sort of an emotional defense mechanism.
You're very observant, I don't want to spoil things, but that was her intention. You see that with her behavior at work as well. Interesting that she tries to push people away who try to get close to her...

I really wanted to depict her realistically as a woman, that's part of why this chapter was so difficult to write. I really had to dial in her emotional motivations, the ways she contradicts herself, and how it all played into her past experiences.

>between Thorn mentioning astrology and the scene in the shop with Essy noticing a magic throughline, where is this going?
There'll be no wizards casting spells. Merely a lore relevant curiosity I point out to the reader that may have relevance later on.

>>8374392
> "What you called my belly is more like the bottom of your foot." more accurately
Ngl, I thought there was a part in the viper autopsy where Tygan calls the part they use to slither a "foot-like appendage", so that's why I had Tay say that. But, I can't seem to find it anywhere, so I agree. I might rework that part a little bit.

>Like a joke lifted right out of the boondocks.
You're the second person that's said that to me and you're right. This character's manner of speaking was inspired by the boondocks, I love that show. But you're misinterpreting my intentions here. This guy essentially being dressed like a gopnik and talking in the most stereotypical ghetto way possible is meant to be absurd. I've been told stories about Chicago, I have friends that work in the service industry, while this man is absurd, people like him do exist. It is an unfortunate, but very real aspect of working in the service industry. I'd say even after Advent has had its way with the world, I doubt all American subcultures would cease to exist. If anything I haven't gone far enough with how weird the slang would be at that point in the future.

The absurdity of this man and this scene serves a purpose, toning down that character wouldn't make it hit the same. The start of the scene is funny to the reader, as an observer, but to the characters, this is the scariest moment of their lives. I'd probably almost piss my pants in the same scenario. That crazy man could realistically kill them, and the more absurd he/the scene is the harder you crash to Earth when you see Tay having a panic attack. The juxtaposition grounds you in that moment with her. Situations as crazy as this do happen, and you'll never be able to prepare for them.

>>8374392
>hispanic character says pendejo, and I fill out another part of my lazy hollywood writing bingo sheet lol. Its probably fine to leave in DESU, but to be at least felt silly.
I honestly thought about not putting that in. I figured the poor lad needed some more characterization. I could just have him say retard instead.

>"trying to keep it together now that I was only two feet away from all her hotness" kinda awkward/clunky phrasing?
Yeah, that could probably be reworded

>"Should have killed the robber" kind of extreme
If it was anyone other than Tay, I would agree with you. As you have seen, she sorta has a tendency to overcompensate for her lack of courage. "She's all bark and no bite." She has many times talked about specific ways of violently killing people for minor things.

>Even from hints in chapter 6 figured out Tay/Thorn are roommates.
It's an open secret at this point, lmao. It is how I have intended it.

>The "You're not telling me something" bit with Tay makes sense but also feels like a rehash of that similar convo with Thorn. You've got two love interests you want to contrast but you've got these very similar scenes between them.
Ooof, this stings the most out of everything you said because I had the same exact thought while I was writing ch7, lol. Not to worry though, I plan on contrasting them next chapter in a way that really turns up the pressure on Vince. Its gonna make him realize he's gonna have to choose. Vince isn't really a womanizer, in fact, he's probably the exact opposite of that, and basically dating two girls is gonna make him feel like shit.


Again, dude, I really appreciate all this feedback you gave me. Worth it's weight in gold, lol. This is how I improve as a writer. Also, nice T'vaoan dry handy image. I used to lurk here a lot more, but I've always enjoyed the art you post.

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>>8374366
There's nothing inherently wrong with something being furry. But at least own up to it. I don't see the reason to make a ruthless, heartless species of galactic diplomats into fuzzy adorable bat people for any other reason.

>>8377829
oh yeah you definitely captured that period of life well I think

glad those changes made sense!

>>8377886
>no wizards casting spells
This did make me realize I don't think we've ever had Ethereal smut

>>8377889
Ah I see, yeah I've run into people like that myself, and I totally get the authorial intent there, I guess might just be good to add extra details about guy or something? Might just be worth work shopping the descriptions a bit I guess, admittedly I don't have any specific suggestions, so I'm not too much of help there

>>8377902
that's a good point, definitely a good idea to add some extra detail to flesh out carlos more. I think you already have the friend crew saying retard a lot so I think you gotta ad something unique specific to him. could play up the catholic angle? Or give him some hobby/obsession.

true, but when she's talking about killing people its always in that more defensive she's putting up walls, not actually serious tone, in that moment the walls are down, so seems like that wouldn't apply there. I do see your point though, so IDK, could go either way.

>this stings the most
it always is those things we already know of right?

Glad to give feedback, I know it is very difficult to come by thought out, specific feedback so I try to give it when I have time.

And thanks man! More to come later this week should time allow.

>>8377867
damn true, didnt realize that, we need updated memes. someone make a /xeno/ dirt triangle graph. I have no idea what the 3 axis would be though

>>8377997
I think I would generally agree with that, its just that once the term furry gets thrown around you can get visceral reactions so I just avoid it for the sake of ease

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>tfw no Predawaifu

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>tfw she'll never clamp her mandibles on your cheeks to kiss you
Why even live?

>not wanting his xeno waifu to be warm and soft to touch because he fears rude internet people will call him furry
>fears so much he opts out for cold, hard, always slimy xenomorphs or ambient temperature snakes
Lol.
Lmao.
You can take your chitinous chirping things, I'll be burying my face in my fluffy wife's tummy.

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>>8378228
Don't tell me you don't want a xeno waifu that can lift you up with just one hand.
Plus, cold girls are better for snuggling, especially in a hot summer day (like today where I live, 30ºC + high humidity)

>>8378232
She's only allowed to be able to lift me with one arm if she employs exosuits.
This might sound like foreign concept to majority of posters here, but I would much rather be the male (built like brick shithouse) in that hypothetical relationship scenario. I am well past the age when I want to be picked up and cradled. It is my turn now to manhandle things and be brutish.

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>>8378089
I was bored and made a few at work since I love these charts. feel free to edit them as you please.

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>>8378901
alternative since we don't have many game devs

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>>8378936
and one for xenos

>>8378946
>furry-bait and scalie-bait are not one and the same

>>8365388
Thats not a hug you silly.

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>>8379120
they're two completely different things. i know you're still in your yiff in hell phase but get with the times gramps.

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>>8378228
>>8378232
Frankly you both have a point, but you know what?

I don't mind what she looks like. I'll take her for who she is, and I guess figure out the rest along the way.

Not to get too into it to rehash the same old shit, but friendly reminder that anthro hate was a crossover from Something Awful, whilst 4chan itself has always largely been into it.
Furry is furry, faggotry to do with that fandom and its ilk, but anthro is it's own thing and stands alone to blend into numerous interests, including /xeno/.

>>8379208
>completely different things
They aren't. It's understandable you might not want to be associated with furry community thanks to some "outstanding" members.
>proceeds to project
Oh I see, carry on.

Lads an important question, yautja
xeno pregnant
facehug or no

>>8379482
Preds are uggo, so no.

>>8379492
You dont seem to understand, yer getting a pred wheither ya want em or not
Question is if she's to have a hugger on the face or not

>>8379500
Whatever works so I don't have to see her uggo face.

>>8379482
>>8379500
Hold up, how pregnant?
Are you drawing an x-ray of wee babby xeno? Those things reside somewhere I can't tell why because they, for some god damn reason, through sternum.
Naturally, the predator can't be having a bulging belly to tell us of her pregnancy. And she can't really have bulging ribs because bones don't do that

>>8379555
Big ol pregnant belly, ready to drop any moment
No xray

>>8378946
I’m with >>8379120 Scalies are just a subset of the wider anthro subculture.
I’d replace “Scalie-Bait” with something like “Rubber Foreheads,” “Space Babes,” or “Literal Humans,” and label everything at 80-90% of that axis as “Not Xeno.”
… And maybe swap out “Invertebrate” for “Spec-Evo, or something similar.

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>>8379605
>Scalie/Furry-bait
>Space babes
>Spec-evo
Agreed, that's a pretty good all rounder on the triangle. Spec evo-like was especially needed. But overall these charts are a good format to use, Guido. Thanks for that and the cute pic >>8372348 Cool gun design, too. That blade on the end of it reminds of a brute weapon.

>>8379605
>arbitrarily separating anthroslop from humanslop
why? they're both cut from the same cloth. at that point just use a single axis.

>>8379711
>>8378901
>>8378936
>>8378946
Nice shit.

As a thought for what could work more universally, both for doing alien charts or for what artfag/drawfags tend to post, could go with axes of:

>biologically alien - culturally alien - technologically alien

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>>8379555
>>8379566

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>>8379736
I did both

>>8379605
Realized I forgot how to read these charts for a minute, actually. I meant to say cut off everything <10-20% on the Spec-Bio axis as Not Xeno.

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>>8379605
>>8379711
Fantastic ideas

>>8379927
space babe and anthro are similar enough on all levels that having separate axes for them is retarded.
do better.

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>>8379732
great as well. go wild.

maybe we should start by placing the xeno scale aliens on the charts, or drawing lines/making categories like these charts usually have like this anon was suggesting >>8379605

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This is my amphibian mammalian ayy called Glyph.
I have plans to draw a comic at some point with her being the main reason the plot drives forwards.
She's from an unknown alien species that's pure sexo whilst being playful and innocent with a SUPER DUPER SECRET of her background.
She has a lot of lewd shit going on under the bonnet.

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>>8374169

Found an image set of Al-an and Robin.

>>8374366
>>8374545

Yeah, sorry I forgot the clarify they were from Subnautica Bellow Zero

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>>8380635

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>>8380636

BTW, if you want more action with this 2 I recommend checking the AL-AN/Robin Ayou tag in ao3.

There’s a lot of great fics, both short and long, SFW and NSFW. Two of my favourite are:

The “Subnaughtyca” series by the_captains_platonic_masquerade

The “A Splash Across a Pale Sky” series by Dust

>>8374169
>>8380635
>>8380636
>>8380657
>Knotted dick instead of cool alien-style horsecock
>On the alien centaur
What's the point?

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>>8381058
Given how often Worf and other klingons get flung around, this version of star trek must have some scary aliens.

Now that I think about it, we could pull the audio from Star trek episodes and animate actual aliens in place of human actors

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>>8379736
>>8379740
very nice stuff
maybe if Requiem had something like this and better lighting, it would be an alright movie

Asari
>species compatible with anything, can be impregnated by anything they copulate with
>resulting offspring is always an asari

Xenomorphs
>can impregnate any species (with a hole)
>resulting offspring is always xenomorph

Two biggest gigabreeder species

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>>8383246
>Xeno and Asari genes fighting for which species to be growing

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Lol. Lmao.

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>>8383276
>asari gets facefuggee
>genes fight, it's a draw
>asari gets chestbursted, an absolute abomination of xenosari crawls out of chesthole
>it can copulate with anything, and get pregnant
>fuck a xenosari
>it gets pregnant
>12 hours later - a xenosari larva chestbursts from xenosari
>another 18 hours later it is mature
>"I can't reproduce and I must breed"

>>8371743
...so most intelligent species are tall, humanoid, and not covered in fur

>>8374366
they're all furrybait though
there's no truly alien features, just remixed animals, particularly the ones they want to pork

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>>8367945
>>8368749
Cute bat-monkey

>>8384387
Only if you're boring and prefer to stick to level 1 on the chart.

>>8382670
Very nice

>>8384403
heh she does her best hug and snuggle the bat.

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>>8386506

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In space, no one can hear you cream

>>8384405
No, that's just what they are in star trek. Frankly, I'm getting a little sick of you uppity furries and your circular logic

>>8376626
>So, here's...
>Broken Sanctuary, Chapter 7

Actually it's Chapter 8 now:

>https://rentry.org/brokensanctuary
>https://www.sofurry.com/view/2149691
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/57275167

>>8386604
>No, that's just what they are in star trek
And that's why it's called 'redesign'. As was said earlier. I'd you cannot retain information, there is no point in arguing your point.
>>8386604
You started this, you're the one regularly using circular logic, and you're the one who made this a problem when no one else cared. I don't know if you're a genuine diehard or just baiting for attention, but if you can't get rid of your sudden short term memory loss, we're done.

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Remember when the official Xcom Facebook account posted fat fetish viper fanart

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>>8347179
How this artist does more. They're very cute and the Unggoy are painfully underrepresented with lewds.

>>8387099
the writer makes characters act stupid at random times to move the plot forward using the reasoning sometimes people act dumb, but he takes it too far and characters seem to suffer random bouts of retardation/brain damage out of nowhere

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>>8387108
It's not even that though. Tyler as a character just comes across as legitimately fucking brain damaged to the point he doesn't even seem to be able to string complex thoughts together. And yet he's miraculously surrounded by important people from races he's known for all of a few weeks who are either trying to kill him for seemingly no reason or are bending over backwards to help him in spite of his stupidity.

>>8345443
Any socials or whatever?

>>8387146
Space pangolin ass has obviously destroyed his mind.

>>8387099
Man I dropped that shit two months ago. NoP1 was fine enough except for things going a little too fast but NoP2 is driven on absolute character retardation.

>>8387368
The main plot is okay if a bit repetitive, but the Ark plot feels like it was written by ai or something. It started off fine but something must of happened because suddenly ALL the dialogue is weirdly aggressive and confrontational regardless of the situation, there's a random "boot camp" arc that goes absolutely nowhere, a random homicidal alien who might just be the most contrived character I've ever seen, gay shit that comes out of nowhere, and just a bunch of other random crap.

>>8387368
I'm new, what's NoP1/2?

>>8387463
Nature of Predators
Webnovel based off Deathworlders where space jews forced every other sapient species to be hard herbivores that are terrified of predatory traits so the only other meat eaters on the galactic stage besides us trandosha-esq shitheads who kidnap other races to cannibalize raw.

>>8387368
Same.
Read all nop1, click next chapter - fuck you nop2 bazillion years into future.
I wanted to see what would happen to Slanek, something more detailed about recovery, something beyond "fade to black and they lived happily ever after"
Oh well, all good things must end.

>>8387511
>I wanted to see what would happen to Slanek
That's one of the main side plots though. Marcel and Slanek both went off the grid and Marcel is trying to find mind scan tech to finally fix him.

>>8382649
Agreed
>>8382670
Oh wow didnt think anyone would save that shitty sketch

>>8387226
The only thing to do is to destroy that ass

>>8367156
>>8384403
Is there any more of her?

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>>8387511
>>8387416
I'm so fucking mad
Even with its negatives NoP was a breath of fresh air after HFY got stale. I actually don't know how the writer is fucking up this badly, we've seen what he can do and he is absolutely capable of writing decent characters.
I even bought the first book and plan on buying the rest of the NoP1 books.
At least we got some interesting porn out of it.

>>8387146
>>8387099
I think he’s just meant to be the opposite of the NoP 1 protagonists. NoP had a lot of smart humans, especially emotionally smart, and humans were not allowed to be dumb or evil because SP didn’t like how quickly people got on board with Humanity First, despite the fact no one in their right mind could stomach the Federation and indeed, Earth is behaving exactly as expected post-Federation. Secret police everywhere, alliance hanging by a thread as a bunch of culture-less bastards try to convince the new super-power to be more aggressive and destructive.
Taylor IS a dumb character, emotionally and mentally. He cannot read a room, he cannot smell plots. His purpose in the story is very precise, he’s the catalyst. Something BIG is gonna happen, between the Arks and Earth. It’s gonna be his fault, the fault of his “friends” and “enemies” and he’s gonna be really sad when he finally understands that all his life he’d only ever taken orders.
Dumb characters are very frustrating, but sometimes the story moves forward only because a dumbass is at the right place at the right time, to be someone’s sucker

>>8387511
For me it was Isif and the Dominion. NoP 2 is meant to be about other characters, very few returning characters and those that return have changed over the decades, but it’s very hard for people to care about the new guy.
SP went too hard too fast, a blank slate in a character driven story was obviously an unpopular decision, barely anyone you recognise and no one you like from the new guys.
He’s still the guy who wrote NoP 1 so I trust him to make this interesting, even if it takes 40+ chapters

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>>8388031
The issue isn't just that Taylor is a retard it's that fucking everything feels contrived as hell.

>>8388009
>absolutely capable of writing decent characters.
I have been having an increasingly difficult time reading this because I find the majority of the characters to be fucking stupid as hell.