Gold Gets Crushed By Rising Rates, Trades Like A Bitcoin

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Summary

  • Gold recently broke out to new all-time highs but the uptrend was broken after the strong May labor report, as the expectations of a pre-mature Fed cut evaporated.
  • Higher interest rates over the near term, as the market prices a "higher-for-longer" policy, are likely to cause the price of Gold to continue to fall over the near term.
  • Gold's price movements seem to be following Bitcoin, indicating a speculative environment and lack of fundamental reasons for Gold's breakout.
  • Yet, some exposure to Gold is still recommended due to the escalating geopolitical situation.

Anthony Bradshaw

The Gold Breakout

The price of gold started a major move higher on March 1st, spiking to a new all-time high near the $2500/level on May 20.

However, the uptrend was decisively broken after the strong May labor report

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bk25 profile picture
bk25
14 Jun. 2024, 12:24 PM
Why is no one talking about this? Biggest news in financial news in 50ys

www.tbsnews.net/...
Z Hu profile picture
Z Hu
14 Jun. 2024, 1:28 PM
@bk25 yes, it's on the radar, well at least I know about it. The petrodollar is probably one of the biggest factors (possibly #1) as to why the dollar became the global reserve currency. Of course the US was in a very strong position for the past few decades for other reasons as well, GDP and military, which insures national and fiscal security.

In the current geopolitical environment, does Saudi Arabia really need the US as an ally? It would seem we need them more than they need us, as we can see from history. (911 terrorist were SA citizens, they completely ignored the US inquiries over Jamal Khashoggi, hmm what else). At the time the treaty was established, China was a third world country, civil war, barely functioning in the 1950s (heh Taiwan was a result), but today is a very different story, China is #2. There is no reason for Saudi Arabia to stick to the dollar when China is only about 30% behind the US. Once we factor in BRICS... It's hard to stay on top and the USD can only go down.

hmm, what are we talking about this in relations to gold, BTC and rates? I think I'm in the wrong forum.
bk25 profile picture
bk25
14 Jun. 2024, 2:15 PM
@Z Hu We print $1T in more debt every 100 days. Buying our debt would be a crazy thing to do. If we lose the petrodollar not even an insane person would buy it. I hope BTC works but it would put the "mob" I mean the gov out of biz and they would lose their power...and that is not something they will ever give up.
Z Hu profile picture
Z Hu
15 Jun. 2024, 7:09 AM
@bk25 Ah, OK, now I know why you're bringing up the petrodollar in regards to gold, you're looking at the future of the USD. hmm, The dollar is the king of all currencies and it's status will not change for the near future and yes the petrodollar helps. One of the main reasons the USD has a global presence as opposed to other currencies, is that the US has a very, very large trade deficit and is exporting dollars for goods. Historically a country (i.e. China or Mexico) would generate a large trade surplus of dollars and since the USD is stronger, stabler then their own currency, they have no complaints. Plus those dollars would then be used to buy US Treasuries. That's how the wheel has been turning for the past decades.
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lorddarley
14 Jun. 2024, 9:05 AM
Why buy GLD with a .40% fee when AAAU is .18% ?
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rbow
16 Jun. 2024, 8:59 PM
@lorddarley It's bigger which doesn't necessarily mean safer. Smaller spread if you are a frequent trader. I trade mostly GLDM or IAU for the lower fees and thus slightly better performance.
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RD2001
11 Jun. 2024, 11:13 AM
"Gold is money, everything else is credit."

-- JP Morgan
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kmagee
11 Jun. 2024, 4:12 AM
Something to think about: rumble.com/...
Z Hu profile picture
Z Hu
11 Jun. 2024, 8:35 AM
@kmagee let me link the title for those who are interested. This appears to be an opinion piece. As it is in a video form, I'm unable to skim the content efficiently, but did skip forward to some visuals within the video.

"BREAKING: Saudis Officially END Petrodollar as BRICS Makes HUGE Announcement w/ Dr. Kirk Elliott"
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stoney500
11 Jun. 2024, 12:57 AM
The gold breakout had very little basis in pure “speculation” It was primarily driven by PBOC buying activity with a bit of geopolitical tension mixed in
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rbow
10 Jun. 2024, 7:46 PM
I have no idea what Gold price will do next. I continue to sell High and Buy pullbacks. A winning strategy so far.
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MEDRE1
11 Jun. 2024, 10:05 AM
@rbow correlation is not causation
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Cantankerous Cat
10 Jun. 2024, 6:28 PM
Gold investors have reasons that go far beyond what has been discussed on this thread. Let’s call it the theory of Greedfest.

The federal debt is nearing $35 trillion, and interest on debt costs the US over 20% of federal budget. When federal reserve increases fed rate, US has to pay US treasury holders more money. This “more money” derives from either federal budget plus current deficit, or printing of new money, QE. Hence, there is a never ending vicious circle as the federal debt soars.

How does this irresponsible fiscal/monetary policy end? Investors’ declining confidence in US government’s ability to finance its debt will cause them to demand higher and higher interest rates, to compensate for default risk. US will be forced to devalue the US dollar, to pay off enough debt, so that interest expense remains manageable.

The result of a devalued dollar is an immediate jump in inflation, and a corresponding jump in spot price of precious metals.

I’m in the old camp on Bitcoin, and believe it’s a Ponzi scheme. Gold, however, has represented riches throughout human history.

In my view, the US hasn’t yet reached the danger zone of Greedfest. Internal hope lies in US citizens demanding that elected leaders restore our faith and trust, by being fiscally responsible.

Meanwhile, gold is a viable option as a store of value, and the reasoning is more common sensical than speculative .
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jdlgsm
10 Jun. 2024, 5:03 PM
This is a strange essay. It characterizes Bitcoin as a "meme stock" or "a GenAI-themed bubble stock."

Actually, it is probably accurate to think of Bitcoin as digital gold. Thus it should trade like gold. That is not a surprise.

The author states that "Gold will start rising when the Fed starts pushing real interest rates into negative territory."

That is accurate. But consider this. The latest CPI print is 3.4%, compared to 4.47% on interest rates for 10-year treasuries. That works out to a real yield of about 1.07%.

In taxable accounts, the inter anest is taxed on the full nominal rate of 4.47% implying that many investors will already see negative real returns on 10-year treasuries.

Moreover, since real return depends on inflation, higher inflation readings can lower real yields with no change in nominal yields.

There is lots of talk among economists that the Fed is losing its battle against inflation. Some say this is due to fiscal dominance, meaning that the Fed interest rate policy attempts to contract the economy while Congressional fiscal policy increase inflation by increasing the money supply to pay ever increasing debt service.

At some point the fiscal policy dominates monetary policy and we start to see higher inflation, EVEN IF the Fed keeps the Fed Funds where it now is.

That is the problem facing the US economy now. It is impossible to predict the future. If inflation starts to fall, yes, we will likely then see a decline in the prices for bitcoin and gold. If on the other hand, inflation proves more difficult to contain than the Fed argues, then we may indeed see higher prices for gold and bitcoin.

Thus it does seem prudent to have a small position in either gold or bitcoin, or maybe both, to prepare for an outcome that none of us wants, higher inflation that is impossible to tame, without the politically impossible tasks of either lowering spending or increasing taxes.
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TBIRDINTL
10 Jun. 2024, 12:44 PM
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I disagree with your thesis. Fact is, China and the East are accumulating physical gold. China sold 54 Bn in US Treasuries in Q1 - likely exchanging for gold to reduce the risk of its assets being confiscated similar to the West confiscation of Russian state assets post Ukraine invasion.
Jim in Hav profile picture
Jim in Hav
10 Jun. 2024, 12:37 PM
Are there reliable data that shows purchases/sales of gold by various countries' Central Banks? I have never seen such a resource like that available. Everyone e.g. talks about "large central bank buying" but is there actual DATA showing that?
Z Hu profile picture
Z Hu
10 Jun. 2024, 1:05 PM
@Jim in Hav Jan Nieuwenhuijs wrote an article which can answer your question, let me link it. He has a nice chart which shows global reserves of currency and gold from 1950 to 2022, plus his X account has a nice video graphic showing the same chart in motion over time. Unlike some other writers who rehash the same data over and over again, Jan is an analyst at Gainesville Coins and seem to have access to global exchanges, overall buys and sells and movement of gold.

seekingalpha.com/...
Damir Tokic profile picture
Damir Tokic
10 Jun. 2024, 5:22 PM
@Jim in Hav each CB reports its' balance sheet, which shows gold holdings, some orgs compile the data, for example the World Council www.gold.org/...
Avi Gilburt profile picture
“Observers’ job, as they see it, is simply to identify which external events caused whatever price changes occur. When news seems to coincide sensibly with market movement, they presume a causal relationship. When news doesn’t fit, they attempt to devise a cause-and-effect structure to make it fit. When they cannot even devise a plausible way to twist the news into justifying market action, they chalk up the market moves to “psychology,” which means that, despite a plethora of news and numerous inventive ways to interpret it, their imaginations aren’t prodigious enough to concoct a credible causal story.

Most of the time it is easy for observers to believe in news causality. Financial markets fluctuate constantly, and news comes out constantly, and sometimes the two elements coincide well enough to reinforce commentators’ mental bias towards mechanical cause and effect. When news and the market fail to coincide, they shrug and disregard the inconsistency. Those operating under the mechanics paradigm in finance never seem to see or care that these glaring anomalies exist.”

– Bob Prechter. The Socionomic Theory of Finance
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Groundhogger59
10 Jun. 2024, 4:01 PM
@Avi Gilburt one could always point out that either those doing the analysis are missing critical information that they are unaware of or did not seek. However, this does not improve the situation of their analysis LOL
Avi Gilburt profile picture
@Groundhogger59

I think the point he is making is that they are simply chasing their tails . . . they are not following the true driver of markets.
Damir Tokic profile picture
Damir Tokic
10 Jun. 2024, 5:24 PM
@Avi Gilburt random walk, all else is entertainment, but sometimes things get clear, not the case now
Z Hu profile picture
Z Hu
10 Jun. 2024, 12:13 PM
Disagree, gold and BTC are not related, though they may appear to be correlated when we look at your chart. I have two references to support my opinion and I believe we are simply at a high for crypto, gold and indexes in general.

Jan Nieuwenhuijs wrote an article regarding what he views as China's policy going for the past two years and going forward. (see link below) and he has also calculated, though his own research that China accumulate a total of 189 tones in the first quarter, but the retail Chinese consumers imported 543 tones, which is more than double their central bank.

The conclusion that I can make, is that China's central bank simply has a buy limit order in place and it would be around the $2200 to $2300 level seen in April, or around the current 100 moving average. More recently, it was reported that China has stopped buying gold in May.

Considering the annual global production of gold is around 3000 tons, China single handedly bought (543+189)/3000= 24% of the total annual supply in the first quarter! Taken another way, they bought ALL of the available gold mined for the period! This would be a significant driving factor, independent of BTC.

seekingalpha.com/...

As for BTC, Crescat Capital wrote an article (see link below), where he shows under the following header "Crypto, A byproduct of Excessive Liquidity." Bitcoin, the leading crypto, does not trade like gold at all by the way, as some of its proponents fantasize. It trades like the Nasdaq 100 with 3x leverage. He has a nice chart under this section, which shows the strong correlation between the two curves (between 2018 and 2024).

seekingalpha.com/...

Personally, from this point of view, I view BTC as a "risk on" and gold as a "risk off" commodity. Younger investors buy BTC to make lots of money, with plenty of FOMO and volatility, whereas older investors buy gold to preserve capital.
Damir Tokic profile picture
Damir Tokic
10 Jun. 2024, 5:25 PM
@Z Hu that's the point, gold is trading like a speculative asset now, that's why I am not chasing it
Avi Gilburt profile picture
@Damir Tokic

What you miss is that this is how it ALWAYS trades. And, simply calling it a name when you do not understand what is going on in the market really does not support any reasonable perspective.
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John Galt is Satoshi Nakamoto
10 Jun. 2024, 9:29 PM
@Z Hu "Personally, from this point of view, I view BTC as a "risk on" and gold as a "risk off" commodity. Younger investors buy BTC to make lots of money, with plenty of FOMO and volatility, whereas older investors buy gold to preserve capital."

The most bullish thing about bitcoin, is that most of the financial world, including yourself, see bitcoin as "risk on" while they see gold and USD as "risk off." They presume this is the correct take, because bitcoin is volatile, and correlated with risk assets (why? because most traders see it as risk-on, that's why!).

However, the fundamental reality is the opposite. Functionally, bitcoin operates with more certainty than anything else in existence. We can answer the questions of exactly how much bitcoin exists now, how much there will be in 20 years, and how much there will be in 2,000 years. These questions are unanswerable for gold and USD. The questions are also unanswerable for broader crypto, with every altcoin being far more vulnerable to changes than bitcoin is.

Ultimately, bitcoin will transition from a risk-on asset to a risk-off asset, as more people begin to understand it and take it seriously. There is already a growing cohort who treat bitcoin as a long-term savings mechanism, not a get rich quick scheme, but a preserver of capital. Meanwhile, broader crypto is absolutely the trash you tried to describe, designed for desperate gamblers and gullibile victims.

I highly encourage you to not reject this opinion of mine, and give it some serious consideration. I have always been a conservative investor, choosing dividend growth, gold, blue chips and stalwarts, while avoiding tech startups, SPACs, meme stocks, and broader crypto. Yet, these days, the majority of my wealth is saved in bitcoin. I do not fit your perception of bitcoin holders, are there are many others the same way. Kind regards.
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