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NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION

Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves

01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (>>>/jp/31785447)
02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

CLASSIC

04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 >>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)
05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 >>5591760 >>6383777)
06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 >>11015414 >>11105922)
07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 >>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)
08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 >>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)
09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 >>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)
10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 >>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)
11 Google trends (>>1787083 >>1784574 >>2871777)
12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 >>10959272 >>11111437)
13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 >>4283312 >>24804708)
16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 >>11875343)
17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 >>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)

NUMBERS

18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 >>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)
19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 >>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)
20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618 >>28700309 >>28701249)
22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 >>21374368)

MERCH AND SPONSORS

25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 >>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)
26 Selling out merch and concerts is actually bad (>>12121308, >>28891055).
27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339, >>45830686)
28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

IT DOESN'T COUNT

30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

GENERAL

35 Holocope list (>>12296493 >>12457630 >>14120649)
36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 >>10992938)
38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
40 Selen delusion here (>>8854844 >>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)
41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 >>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)
43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)
45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad" (>>24913466, >>26079927, >>26102448, >>26685075, >>26702974, >>26688516)

And when all else fails...

46 Blatant Lying
Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...

47 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 >>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831 >>43754038 >>44377149

NIJIEN NEWFAG COPE

Holo invented unicorns (>>12496411)
Nijisanji won morally (>>14184024)
Niji has a better following than Holo in the west (>>14753656)
Cover disregards the rightful sovereignty of the Chinese while Nijisanji follows the law (>>14341864)
Luxiem is five mystas (>>16289880)
NijiEN drama is overshadowing a Hololive event here for once hence they are inclining (>>20162273)
NijiEN recruiters' job is easier since all they need to do is repeat Luxiem (>>20389094)
NijiEN girls are dead weights (>>24451206 >>24475322)
Luxiem being big in China is 10 times more valuable than tiny Korea (>>18806479).
Raids are "articifial boosts" (>>24424311).
Selling out a concert is actually bad because you have to "pay a surcharge" (>>28891055).
CCVID only affected Hololive and was due to bots (>>29757142).
"Brotubers" is a made up word to sell Tempus (>>29761036).
Mayuzumi graduated because he loved Nijisanji and didn't want to get in the way of their plans (>>29936119).
Comiket only reflects otaku interests, Nijisanji is more popular among the normie audience who don't watch streams (>>55733819)

+++++ SHITPOSTS/FALSEFLAGS/SCHIZOPOSTS/ONE-OFFS/NON-NIJI COPES +++++

IT DOESN'T COUNT

Relays don't count (>>15239235)
Square Enix doesn't count (>>13548966)
Pokemon doesn't count (>>15349031)
Gacha rolling streams doesn't count (>>17947552)

MERCH AND SPONSORS

Number of merch released determines popularity, not any other metric (>>19515535)
Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers (>>14217930)

OTHERS

"X is an Honorary Niji, so a win for X is a win for Niji" (HAL >>11870872, Ui >>12196318, Laplus >>14528887, Patra >>1580589 >>12765557, Towa >>28794226).
Most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community (>>19863098)
Watchalongs are POVs (>>12597109)
Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family (>>12750472, https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid/status/1531125560646193154)
Ichikara had morals so they rejected Marine [courtesy Marineschizo] (>>14393520)
Fubuki is getting numbers due to bug in the algorithm (>>14543002)
DLC is a gimmick (>>14578367)
Holo is only popular because of chink clippers (>>14266302)
Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly" (>>4541226)
Having shit mics pre-debut is tradition (>>14755608)
Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis (>>19630260)
At least Vox whores himself to his fans (>>19678167)
Karaoke streams are Sololives (>>43197348, >>43197443).
Nijisanji were always more idol than Cover (>>45100533)

+++++ UNSOURCED +++++

OTHERS

stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
only the west speaks english
Twitter interactions
everything that brings a big audience is a special event
Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
if they make fun of you, you win
Hololive succeeded only because of 4chan

NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION

01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (>>>/jp/31785447)

02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)

03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 >>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)

05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 >>5591760 >>6383777)

06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 >>11015414 >>11105922)

07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 >>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)

08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 >>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)

09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 >>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)

10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 >>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)

11 Google trends (>>1787083 >>1784574 >>2871777)

12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 >>10959272 >>11111437)

13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)

14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)

15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 >>4283312 >>24804708)

16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 >>11875343)

17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 >>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)

18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 >>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)

19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 >>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)

20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)

21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618 >>28700309 >>28701249)

22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)

23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)

24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 >>21374368)

25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 >>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)

26 Selling out merch and concerts is actually bad (>>12121308, >>28891055).

27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339, >>45830686)

28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)

29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)

31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)

32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)

33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)

34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

35 Holocope list (>>12296493 >>12457630 >>14120649)

36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)

37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 >>10992938)

38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)

39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)

40 Selen delusion here (>>8854844 >>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)

41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)

42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 >>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)

43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)

44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad" (>>24913466, >>26079927, >>26102448, >>26685075, >>26702974, >>26688516)

46 Blatant Lying

47 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 >>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831 >>43754038 >>44377149