Elliot didn't die on Isla Vista. Inconsistencies at the crime scene
Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:53 am
1- According to the autopsy, Elliot shot himself in the head which went through his skull, opening a second entrance on his left side, precisely the most visible one at the crime scene.

2-IN NONE OF THE PHOTOS WE HAVE OF THIS AREA OF THE CAR IS THERE ANY BLOOD STAIN!





3- If Elliot had committed this type of suicide, there should be traces of blood everywhere where we can see the car in these photos, on the door, on the left side of the airbag, on the chair, and even in the space between the chair and the seat. floor. there should be at least one clotted stain or something and as you can see there is nothing. not a splash, not a single stain. if this were real, it would be the first case of suicide with a firearm without bleeding at the exact spot. an interesting thing is that according to the official story, Elliot's body was bleeding, as you can see in the following photos.



4- Knowing that there was a supposed bleeding, therefore, the original crime scene is totally out of context. and there is another very interesting thing about this blood.

Elliot's supposed blood left on the floor, as seen in this photo, has simply fallen towards the lower part of the street, proving that it is not real blood.


This is clearly not real blood.
4- There is also confusing information about how Elliot would have killed one of the victims inside the store, with the Sheriff initially saying that Elliot would have entered the store and shot directly, which does not make the least sense together with the crime scene with two alleged " shots" on the glass. there is other information that says that there were more shots and that those inside the store dodged, and so on. Another important thing is that the complete recordings of the security cameras of the place were never made public and besides, there are no witnesses that collaborate with any of the stories passed on about what really happened at the place.
5- The initial information spoke of TWO SHOOTERS IN ISLA VISTA and not just one as the official story later became.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-isla-vista-shootings-leave-three-dead-several-injured-20140524-story.html?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=649324
https://www.rt.com/usa/161268-california-shooting-university-wounded/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/05/seven-dead-in-santa-barbara-drive-by-shooting.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150721223954/http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-isla-vista/26152454
The time frame between the first 911 call to the discovery of the dead suspect was ten minutes.
Multiple witnesses say they saw two people inside the suspect's vehicle, however, during the press conference, Sheriff Brown would neither confirm nor deny whether there was a passenger in the car.
At this time, the sheriff is not releasing the suspect's name, although he has been identified.
Brown called the suspect "severely mentally disturbed" and said, "This was a premeditated mass murder."
Word on the street quickly spread about an ominous YouTube video posted by a young man who identified himself as Elliot Rodger, titled "Retribution." The nearly seven minute long rant blasts women who've ignored or rejected him over the past eight years and warns that he will "punish you all for it."
When questioned about the video during the news conference, Sheriff Brown indicated investigators were familiar with it and are looking into whether Roger was connected with the crime.
The victims include someone who was shot dead inside the I.V. Delimart on Pardall Road. The market windows are pocked with bullet holes. Another crime scene is marked near the 7-11 convenience store.
Xavier Mozejewski told NewsChannel 3 reporter Victoria Sanchez that he witnessed some of the violence and described it as an "old western shoot-out."
Michael Vitak, a student from the Czech Republic, told Sanchez what he witnessed.
"Guys in a BMW. Maybe they were trying to prove they're tough," Vitak said during a live televised interview. Vitak saw them shooting at two girls; one was shot dead, the other was critically hurt.
"I heard shots, screams, pain," said Vitak. "All emotions. I hope she is going to be fine," he said.
Vitak said it was too dark to see the suspects' faces.
About the same time the drive-by shootings occurred, the California Highway Patrol website logged a hit and run along Del Playa that left someone with major leg and head trauma.
NewsChannel 3 senior reporter John Palminteri said via phone, "It is a horrible scene out here."
Palminteri described multiple ambulances, a black BMW that slammed into as many as two cars, and a body covered with a yellow tarp lying in the road on Del Playa. He indicated the deceased may have been shot by a deputy or police officer.
By 12:15 a.m. Saturday morning, Palminteri updated viewers that he'd seen a total of four body bags.
One woman identified as Sierra told Sanchez she was approached by two men in a black BMW. The driver flashed a small black handgun and asked '"Hey, what's up?"'
To summarize: There was and still is a huge cover-up about what really happened on Isla Vista. I'm not a conspirator who denies that Elliot took part in the attack, but I'm pretty sure he didn't die the way they say in Isla Vista. also, it's important to know that the attack story as a whole doesn't fit either and has huge holes. there was a second shooter and denying that is denying the witnesses to the incident. it is really necessary to analyze this critically, without pro-official guesses or thoughts.
Another Important Point: The primary reports of the attack are totally different from the later official report. this means that there was a change in the narrative, which, together with the inconsistencies in the crime scene and in the course of witness statements, demonstrates total cover-up. and along with that, we have the "witnesses" with their allegations years after the incident going 100% in favor of the official report.
For those who want to claim that the divergence between the witnesses, primary reports and the official story was due to information problems, we have this news from the same period that pretty much follows the official pattern. : https://www.noozhawk.com/multiple_shootings_reported_in_isla_vista_20140523/
another important point: this news makes it clear that the old reports spoke of a second shooter in the following part: Earlier reports said one suspect was in custody, but Brown said the gunman acted alone.
one of the news I sent is from the 24th and was updated on the 27th of May. that is, the narrative was already prepared at the time of the incident.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150721223954/http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-isla-vista/26152454
which means that the official history of Isla Vista was ready on the very day of the attack. what came next was just offshoots.
2-IN NONE OF THE PHOTOS WE HAVE OF THIS AREA OF THE CAR IS THERE ANY BLOOD STAIN!
3- If Elliot had committed this type of suicide, there should be traces of blood everywhere where we can see the car in these photos, on the door, on the left side of the airbag, on the chair, and even in the space between the chair and the seat. floor. there should be at least one clotted stain or something and as you can see there is nothing. not a splash, not a single stain. if this were real, it would be the first case of suicide with a firearm without bleeding at the exact spot. an interesting thing is that according to the official story, Elliot's body was bleeding, as you can see in the following photos.
4- Knowing that there was a supposed bleeding, therefore, the original crime scene is totally out of context. and there is another very interesting thing about this blood.
Elliot's supposed blood left on the floor, as seen in this photo, has simply fallen towards the lower part of the street, proving that it is not real blood.
This is clearly not real blood.
4- There is also confusing information about how Elliot would have killed one of the victims inside the store, with the Sheriff initially saying that Elliot would have entered the store and shot directly, which does not make the least sense together with the crime scene with two alleged " shots" on the glass. there is other information that says that there were more shots and that those inside the store dodged, and so on. Another important thing is that the complete recordings of the security cameras of the place were never made public and besides, there are no witnesses that collaborate with any of the stories passed on about what really happened at the place.
5- The initial information spoke of TWO SHOOTERS IN ISLA VISTA and not just one as the official story later became.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-isla-vista-shootings-leave-three-dead-several-injured-20140524-story.html?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=649324
https://www.rt.com/usa/161268-california-shooting-university-wounded/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/05/seven-dead-in-santa-barbara-drive-by-shooting.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150721223954/http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-isla-vista/26152454
The time frame between the first 911 call to the discovery of the dead suspect was ten minutes.
Multiple witnesses say they saw two people inside the suspect's vehicle, however, during the press conference, Sheriff Brown would neither confirm nor deny whether there was a passenger in the car.
At this time, the sheriff is not releasing the suspect's name, although he has been identified.
Brown called the suspect "severely mentally disturbed" and said, "This was a premeditated mass murder."
Word on the street quickly spread about an ominous YouTube video posted by a young man who identified himself as Elliot Rodger, titled "Retribution." The nearly seven minute long rant blasts women who've ignored or rejected him over the past eight years and warns that he will "punish you all for it."
When questioned about the video during the news conference, Sheriff Brown indicated investigators were familiar with it and are looking into whether Roger was connected with the crime.
The victims include someone who was shot dead inside the I.V. Delimart on Pardall Road. The market windows are pocked with bullet holes. Another crime scene is marked near the 7-11 convenience store.
Xavier Mozejewski told NewsChannel 3 reporter Victoria Sanchez that he witnessed some of the violence and described it as an "old western shoot-out."
Michael Vitak, a student from the Czech Republic, told Sanchez what he witnessed.
"Guys in a BMW. Maybe they were trying to prove they're tough," Vitak said during a live televised interview. Vitak saw them shooting at two girls; one was shot dead, the other was critically hurt.
"I heard shots, screams, pain," said Vitak. "All emotions. I hope she is going to be fine," he said.
Vitak said it was too dark to see the suspects' faces.
About the same time the drive-by shootings occurred, the California Highway Patrol website logged a hit and run along Del Playa that left someone with major leg and head trauma.
NewsChannel 3 senior reporter John Palminteri said via phone, "It is a horrible scene out here."
Palminteri described multiple ambulances, a black BMW that slammed into as many as two cars, and a body covered with a yellow tarp lying in the road on Del Playa. He indicated the deceased may have been shot by a deputy or police officer.
By 12:15 a.m. Saturday morning, Palminteri updated viewers that he'd seen a total of four body bags.
One woman identified as Sierra told Sanchez she was approached by two men in a black BMW. The driver flashed a small black handgun and asked '"Hey, what's up?"'
To summarize: There was and still is a huge cover-up about what really happened on Isla Vista. I'm not a conspirator who denies that Elliot took part in the attack, but I'm pretty sure he didn't die the way they say in Isla Vista. also, it's important to know that the attack story as a whole doesn't fit either and has huge holes. there was a second shooter and denying that is denying the witnesses to the incident. it is really necessary to analyze this critically, without pro-official guesses or thoughts.
Another Important Point: The primary reports of the attack are totally different from the later official report. this means that there was a change in the narrative, which, together with the inconsistencies in the crime scene and in the course of witness statements, demonstrates total cover-up. and along with that, we have the "witnesses" with their allegations years after the incident going 100% in favor of the official report.
For those who want to claim that the divergence between the witnesses, primary reports and the official story was due to information problems, we have this news from the same period that pretty much follows the official pattern. : https://www.noozhawk.com/multiple_shootings_reported_in_isla_vista_20140523/
another important point: this news makes it clear that the old reports spoke of a second shooter in the following part: Earlier reports said one suspect was in custody, but Brown said the gunman acted alone.
one of the news I sent is from the 24th and was updated on the 27th of May. that is, the narrative was already prepared at the time of the incident.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150721223954/http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-isla-vista/26152454
which means that the official history of Isla Vista was ready on the very day of the attack. what came next was just offshoots.
Re: Elliot didn't die on Isla Vista. Inconsistencies at the crime scene
Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:43 pm
so who was with elliot that day if there was two ppl
Re: Elliot didn't die on Isla Vista. Inconsistencies at the crime scene
Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:47 pm
there is no precise identity, but it is known that it was a man, probably a young man.
Re: Elliot didn't die on Isla Vista. Inconsistencies at the crime scene
Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:22 pm
that’s wild, how come he wasnt arrested?
Re: Elliot didn't die on Isla Vista. Inconsistencies at the crime scene
Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:26 pm
according to the initial reports, he was caught by the police. which means there was a cover-up
Re: Elliot didn't die on Isla Vista. Inconsistencies at the crime scene
Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:10 pm
Simply Elliot escaped the crime scene with the second shooter. He is alive.
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