Can't believe OP forgot this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arran_Fernandez
I've got couple more
Keep em coming. Who is the new generation of these uber math prodigies?
Qiaochu Yuan, Akhil Mathew,Will Sawin, Evan O'Dorney, Eric Wofsey: mathprodigies
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Qiaochu Yuan : math PhD at Berkeley
Evan O'Dorney : math PhD at Princeton
Will Sawin : math PhD at Princeton + Columbia AP
Akhil Mathew : math PhD at HarvardO'Dorney is supposed to graduate this year. He will get PhD (or probably did already) but that's about it. Just look at his website. Those music composition stuff (which aren't very good) are just distractions to cover up his struggle to excel as a top-level mathematician. He got stuck publishing undergraduate-level papers. That's about it.
Nevertheless, having the IMO medal and putnam fellow thing will allow him to land a good position at one of the top quants.I wonder if math is like music. Would a 15 year old Paul MCartney and 17 year old John Lennon already have the genius of the Beatles?
I thought people develop at different levels- maybe O'Dorney can do better in research in a few years- he certainly has the foundational knowledge base and problem solving abilities.
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So the people who did better than them in grad school. Would those people have crushed the putnam if they prepped and participated or is it two skill sets that are not entirely correlated?
I went to grad school with one of them and am still in math. I did terribly on the Putnam and never made honorable mention in three attempts.
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why do you care about any of this?
An undercurrent of this thread is that some math prodigies of a similar level exit math to pursue a career in econ. For example, Ravi Jagadeesan was a former winner of Morgan prize. He published quite a few papers in 3rd-tier math journals which are still listed in his CV.
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O'Dorney is high functioning auti\\st. Might be good for spelling bees and high school math competitions but research mathematics requires creativity.
This is what few people are willing to admit, success in math that has already been figured out is divorced from success in math that is completely new. One requires rote abilities, the other creativity. Both require high IQ. Its the critical problem of academia and how we select people
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He peaked early. You never peak early.
Qiaochu Yuan : math PhD at Berkeley
Evan O'Dorney : math PhD at Princeton
Will Sawin : math PhD at Princeton + Columbia AP
Akhil Mathew : math PhD at HarvardO'Dorney is supposed to graduate this year. He will get PhD (or probably did already) but that's about it. Just look at his website. Those music composition stuff (which aren't very good) are just distractions to cover up his struggle to excel as a top-level mathematician. He got stuck publishing undergraduate-level papers. That's about it.
Nevertheless, having the IMO medal and putnam fellow thing will allow him to land a good position at one of the top quants. -
Yes, you are right. Proving tough theorems in math requires creativity and original approaches. What I've noticed with these young stars is that they tend to excel at IMO type problems usually related to combinatorics, euclidean geometry, etc. Not sure how that type of intellect transfers to higher level math research. Of course these people are much smarter than me, so what do I know?
O'Dorney is high functioning auti\\st. Might be good for spelling bees and high school math competitions but research mathematics requires creativity.
This is what few people are willing to admit, success in math that has already been figured out is divorced from success in math that is completely new. One requires rote abilities, the other creativity. Both require high IQ. Its the critical problem of academia and how we select people
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Can't believe OP forgot this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arran_Fernandez
I've got couple moreWent from youngest wrangler to Cyprus uni, wtf
It's "Eastern Mediterranean University in Northern Cyprus" so that's an ultimate directional school! But worse, Northern Cyprus is the occupied territory after the Turkey-Greece proxy war on Cyprus. No country in the world, other than Turkey, recognizes Northern Cyprus. European Union does not recognize Northern Cyprus.
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Northern Cyprus is incredible.
Can't believe OP forgot this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arran_Fernandez
I've got couple moreWent from youngest wrangler to Cyprus uni, wtf
It's "Eastern Mediterranean University in Northern Cyprus" so that's an ultimate directional school! But worse, Northern Cyprus is the occupied territory after the Turkey-Greece proxy war on Cyprus. No country in the world, other than Turkey, recognizes Northern Cyprus. European Union does not recognize Northern Cyprus.
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Yes, you are right. Proving tough theorems in math requires creativity and original approaches. What I've noticed with these young stars is that they tend to excel at IMO type problems usually related to combinatorics, euclidean geometry, etc. Not sure how that type of intellect transfers to higher level math research. Of course these people are much smarter than me, so what do I know?
O'Dorney is high functioning auti\\st. Might be good for spelling bees and high school math competitions but research mathematics requires creativity.
This is what few people are willing to admit, success in math that has already been figured out is divorced from success in math that is completely new. One requires rote abilities, the other creativity. Both require high IQ. Its the critical problem of academia and how we select people
Eh, I'd argue that Academia in the last thirty year has been poisoned by rote memorizing hard working types. The eccentric absent minded professor who cant keep his life together but has a passion for some obscure field is being beaten out for top spots by careerists.