Has anyone noticed N.B.A. players don’t come from the hood anymore? Anyone ever noticed that they all come from hood to decent areas now.

[Luke 11v23]

The last nba star I know who grew up in the hood & came from literally nothing. In fact most don’t even come from the heart of the inner city

Draymond Green maybe after that but can’t think of anyone else.

 

[PlatanoPwr]

It’s called growth. Basketball and football are middle class sports today. You have all the camps and trainers that have entered the chat and exploited the market of thirsty parents wanting their kids to excel.

 

[Caramel56]

No what sucks is that in order to be noticed by colleges, you have to be part of the AAU. Which is stupid. Not everyone can afford that. It’s expensive and overpriced as hell. You have to be a least upper middle class in order to afford it.

 

[LaBamba]

Kids with talent get moved out the hood, the local booster clubs will usually fund the whole family moving out the hood just so the super star players can bring their high school team championships. Theyve been doing that since I was in school and im in my 30s now…

 

[Psalm]

It’s nice seeing the sport change with representation from two parent homes and not the depressing struggle story over and over again.

 

[MDR180]

You gotta have money these days to see little roquan “make it to the league”….all of these travel teams and amateur clubs in place now…you definitely cant be broke….there are still some who make it through the cracks, but those days are slowly vanishing….

 

[sandylove]

People are being priced out of sports, even basketball. Back 25 years ago, you could go to a public high school, maybe get sponsored for a random AAU team at 15/16 years old, and get attention enough for a d1 scholarship and succeed from there. The idea of personal trainers for children wasn't even thought of.

Nowadays if you're not on the AAU circuit by 10 years old and playing year round in leagues, with personal trainers, in expensive prep schools, the chances of making it are almost none. This requires not only extreme financial privilege for the family, but the emotional burden as well since the family is basically attached to the schedule of having to be in different cities all the time on a year round basis, having to move to go to different schools, etc. Even bigger high schools are starting to travel like NBA teams during the season so their teams can play the best in the country. And you have 15-16 year olds transferring schools, even across states, multiple times to get on better teams and more attention. It's insane.

This doesn't even mention the NBA moving away towards most American youth and investing more in international leagues and the NBA as a global market.

 

[Cherica Cherry.]

It’s nice seeing the sport change with representation from two parent homes and not the depressing struggle story over and over again.

End thread

 

[Livingit88]

I'm sorry but it's not progress to see the sport dominated by middle/upper class people. Just like it's not progress to see acting, music and the arts filled with nepo babies.

All it means is that there are less and less opportunities for the poor, who are the bigger class. If it takes money to achieve something you should have a natural talent for it just ruins the whole the thing imo. I don't like how manufactured and selective our world is becoming.

 

[Meenah]

A lot of Hood schools are being closed. Funding is being dropped in a lot of places. Some Urban school districts can't afford to pay for school busses. They're not funding sports like they used to. Also as already mentioned good Hood players are being moved out to the burbs to play at White rich schools.

 

[anna7]

A lot of them are sons of nba or other sports players too

 

[arethaspurse]

AAU.

parents- across all youth sports- have been eaten alive by coaches and trainers promising the moon and stars in return for a hefty salary.

 

[Slewfoot_Slim]

It’s nice seeing the sport change with representation from two parent homes and not the depressing struggle story over and over again.

Nah it’s just widening the wealth gap even further. Not good. Need to be diversity based on skill

 

[Colts Fan]

I'm sorry but it's not progress to see the sport dominated by middle/upper class people. Just like it's not progress to see acting, music and the arts filled with nepo babies.

All it means is that there are less and less opportunities for the poor, who are the bigger class. If it takes money to achieve something you should have a natural talent for it just ruins the whole the thing imo. I don't like how manufactured and selective our world is becoming.

Which explains the decline in music, sports etc these people don’t have natural talent and it’s not as interesting to watch

 

[Spanxy]

The last nba star I know who grew up in the hood & came from literally nothing. In fact most don’t even come from the heart of the inner city

Draymond Green maybe after that but can’t think of anyone else.

It's intentional. They limited access to the Pros straight from high school, so less players from the hood.

Many players are the children of veterans now.

 

[Livingit88]

Which explains the decline in music, sports etc these people don’t have natural talent and it’s not as interesting to watch

Exactly. These people are killing industries because there is barely any NATURAL talent, creativity or originality anymore.

 

[21andover]

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[21andover]

I'm sorry but it's not progress to see the sport dominated by middle/upper class people. Just like it's not progress to see acting, music and the arts filled with nepo babies.

All it means is that there are less and less opportunities for the poor, who are the bigger class. If it takes money to achieve something you should have a natural talent for it just ruins the whole the thing imo. I don't like how manufactured and selective our world is becoming.

Society studies anything that has allowed Black Americans to elevate and target it for disruption in order to lock Black Americans out.

You see it in film, sports and other industries.

Survey: Low-income kids are 6 times more likely to quit sports due to costs - Project Play

In this post, we break down the data by family income. Youth sports have become an estimated $17 billion industry, often leaving behind families who cannot afford to keep up with the escalating arms race. In our latest analysis of the parent survey, we explored participation rates, free play, pressu

projectplay.org

 

[jazrynee]

These basketball camps and extracurricular activities in general are NOT cheap. So I’m not surprised. Most of these kids are not just playing during the season and twiddling thumbs for the rest of the year. You have to have a little coin to get your kid to really stand out to scouts now a days, my opinion.

 

[BlkMan]

I'm sorry but it's not progress to see the sport dominated by middle/upper class people. Just like it's not progress to see acting, music and the arts filled with nepo babies.

Those two things are not the same. Sports relies heavily on publicly available objective stats. Hollywood is a subjective who knows who network of nepotism, racism, cronyism, and xes.

Nobody gets a multimillion dollar contract in the NBA because they are good looking and slept with the right people. At the end of the day the players have to put up the stats and more importantly win.

I agree that pricing kids out of the market is bad but it isn't Hollywood.

 

[Livingit88]

Those two things are not the same. Sports relies heavily on publicly available objective stats. Hollywood is a subjective who knows who network of nepotism, racism, cronyism, and xes.

Nobody gets a multimillion dollar contract in the NBA because they are good looking and slept with the right people. At the end of the day the players have to put up the stats and more importantly win.

I agree that pricing kids out of the market is bad but it isn't Hollywood.

Are movie box office numbers, music streams, sales etc. not stats?

 

[CocoG8v8]

Also, hoods around the country are succumbing to gentrification. Nobody lives in the city anymore, it's the outskirt.

 

[Cherica Cherry.]

And the league is considerably lighter skinned than in years before.

Draft night is a lot of biracial men.

Hence below…

A lot of them are sons of nba or other sports players too

 

[MAMA DADA]

The last nba star I know who grew up in the hood & came from literally nothing. In fact most don’t even come from the heart of the inner city

Draymond Green maybe after that but can’t think of anyone else.

Do hoods have basket-ball courts anymore?

 

[BlkMan]

Are movie box office numbers, music streams, sales etc. not stats?

This was in a thread where LSA fonts were telling me the star of a movie isn't responsible for box office numbers...

You star in a garbage movie and it isn't "in your control"? So you are a victim?

Zero accountability.

Happens all the time in Hollywood.

I can look up the free throw percentage for ANY player in the NBA. No NBA player even players that suck at free throws has ever said free throws are "not in their control."

The NBA is way more transparent and accountable than Hollywood. Not even a debate.

 

[BlkMan]

Do hoods have basket-ball courts anymore?

They do but they don't have free personal coaches.

 

[JordanAirPac]

As a man who was a passionate basketball fan and player growing up, who watched intimately, let me give the women some context that they might be missing

I've literally said this since I was a kid in 2005 that the NBA was clearly white washing the sport, and it was painfully obvious to me as a child but grown men even are only starting to just notice (extremely naive).

When the Malice in the Palace happened in 04 when big scary hood black ass Ben Wallace got in a public on court brawl with big scary hood black ass Ron Artest, and the fight spilled into the stands where all the black players where in the stands knocking out white fans for throwing beer at them... the NBA was in major fear about the survival of their sport, remember this was the post Jordan era, right after Kobe's rape case, and right after the peak of the gangsta rap era where black players were all still in 90s gangsta fashion and culture, which actually made the sport more hyper competitive.

This image scared the Midwestern white NFL fan who already didn't like the Allen Iverson-era of black players who aren't "classy" like the MJ-Magic-Bird types. A lot of white fans left the NBA after that era and the NBA stays trying to compete with the NFL for eyes. That brawl in Detroit was blasted all over all news outlets for like 6 months and the average middle America white person would assume that's all the NBA is.

David Stern (white Jew NBA commissioner) immediately instituted a dress code the next season that required players to wear suits and collar shirts, even though players today are allowed to dress like gay Euros with their thighs showing or their nipples exposed. Also, the NBA started to push the narrative from an institutional level that I clocked immediately, where they would tell us to our face since '05, that "we're moving to a European style of play". That should've rang bells in black ppls minds immediately but at the time literally ppl told me I was being a crazy hotep kid at the time lol. But what is the European style of play if you actually know basketball?... it's literally just a way to say, more 3pt shooting, less defense, less physicality and contact allowed, and more of an emphasis on skill instead of athleticism.

I know a lot of women don't study basketball, as they don't need to, but let me help explain what means in regards to what you're seeing today. Growing up we all knew white boys were 3pt specialists. I remember growing up we even joked "why did they add a 3pt line to the NBA? To give white boys a chance to play". Because black players, who were more athletic, although they could shoot, the NBA emphasized a more gladiator style league where you couldn't even get a shot off against the defense unless you were athletic enough. But in today's league, where contact and physicality is outright outlawed... it creates a league where anyone with skill and who has the designated "right IQ" can be the main quarterback of a basketball team making all the decisions because since anyone can get a shot off against defense in today's NBA, they designate the star of the team as the guy who they trust with the most "skills" and "IQ" to where now the "athletes" (hood blacks) are becoming more considered to be role players (tough screen setters, shot blockers, defensive specialists, role players basically) for the "high IQ skilled players" (whites, euros, and biracials) who get to be the team focus and face of the organization.

When you take away physicality and make the game less athletic, which todays NBA undoubtedly is... you create a dynamic where you shift the hood black folks out the league since they dont fit in as much with the "European style of play".

 

[Luke 11v23]

Do hoods have basket-ball courts anymore?

Yes but no one plays at them like they used to back in the day. Rucker park in nyc used to be world famous for celebrity’s coming in

 

[PrettyLilLoser]

I know a lot of women don't study basketball, as they don't need to, but let me help explain what means in regards to what you're seeing today. Growing up we all knew white boys were 3pt specialists. I remember growing up we even joked "why did they add a 3pt line to the NBA? To give white boys a chance to play". Because black players, who were more athletic, although they could shoot, the NBA emphasized a more gladiator style league where you couldn't even get a shot off against the defense unless you were athletic enough. But in today's league, where contact and physicality is outright outlawed... it creates a league where anyone with skill and who has the designated "right IQ" can be the main quarterback of a basketball team making all the decisions because since anyone can get a shot off against defense in today's NBA, they designate the star of the team as the guy who they trust with the most "skills" and "IQ" to where now the "athletes" (hood blacks) are becoming more considered to be role players (tough screen setters, shot blockers, defensive specialists, role players basically) for the "high IQ skilled players" (whites, euros, and biracials) who get to be the team focus and face of the organization.

When you take away physicality and make the game less athletic, which todays NBA undoubtedly is... you create a dynamic where you shift the hood black folks out the league since they dont fit in as much with the "European style of play".

Wow, thank you for breaking it down like this! I thought the whole comment was really informative, but I only cropped out this part because it matches exactly with what a former coworker male friend was saying to me a few days ago (because he was telling me a story of how he used to make friends when he was new to the neighborhood). He's white, and he said that when he was growing up and used to go to the gym or local court and [black] guys were choosing players for a casual 5-on-5 game, that [my friend] would be by himself practicing his 3's and 9 times out of 10 somebody would walk over and ask him to join and replace another guy on their team who was playing badly. Basically his point was that he was laughing at himself saying that he himself thinks he's not that great of a player and black guys outshine him by a factor of 1,000,000 on the court, but that black guys think white players are "very fundamental" and "do things by the book" and they never risk taking shots that they're not sure they're going to make (i.e. white guys are super-boring and play scared with no style or flair, but on the other hand you're guaranteed that if they take any shots, they're going to get the ball in the net and get the point for your team, so in that aspect they're dependable players to have on the team). I don't know that much about basketball so it's really interesting that your analysis is confirming what my friend said about how white guys even got "invited to the NBA cookout" in the first place and now the whole system is dry and boring.

 

[the musicman]

a lot of NBA Players now are. PassPort Brothers because they come from overseas and the Black Born Players here either do AAU or play in a different league etc... the NBA Powers that be have taken the Hood out and truly gone the PassPort Brothers route in a whole different way

 

[ShayeraHol]

I'm sorry but it's not progress to see the sport dominated by middle/upper class people. Just like it's not progress to see acting, music and the arts filled with nepo babies.

All it means is that there are less and less opportunities for the poor, who are the bigger class. If it takes money to achieve something you should have a natural talent for it just ruins the whole the thing imo. I don't like how manufactured and selective our world is becoming.

Thank you!!!

Lsa can be so elitist and classist smh.

 

[Livingit88]

This was in a thread where LSA fonts were telling me the star of a movie isn't responsible for box office numbers...

They still acted in it, just like a basketball player did their job and dribbled or whatever. However it doesn't mean they are the very best we could have gotten for the job. A lot of time when people are chosen due to money/nepotism our definition of what's good can change by getting worse and the bar being lowered.

 

[0z0z0z]

you get out what you put in..........*

 

[Livingit88]

you get out what you put in..........*

That's a nice saying but not really true. It's more who you know than what you know these days. It's sad that industries are increasingly looking to hire and nuture the classes with money.

 

[bluhaiven]

Hood parents aren't thinking of a way to get their children out of the hood. Most of the parents compete with their children. And of there is a caring teacher around they take offense.

I know a young man who wanted to attend college and his dumb azz father's side said he couldn't go cause he was overweight. Huh? what is he doing now 3 years later? Living with his father getting SNAP! and they feel this is a come-up.

 

[bestueverhad]

Y'all just say stuff

 

[Jane Toussaint]

Do hoods have basket-ball courts anymore?

This is not scientific, but I’m going to say no.

Population numbers are raising and there is a current housing shortage. Property is too valuable to not build homes and turn a profit on. The idea to dedicate open space just for basketball courts seems almost dated now.

The idea of spending public money on parks dedicated to adolescent play is almost a foreign concept also.

I have yet to see a new parks be built with outdoor bball courts. High priority amenities are dog parks and pickle ball courts.

As mentioned in previous posts, bball has moved from the streets to the air conditioned courts of organized travel teams and majority white schools.

 

[Good and plenty]

I grew in the hood. A low income housing project and bball and baseball was the main sport. All day and night the gym would be going full blast. The guys would even break onto gym to play.

Many areas where I used to lived are heavily gentrified. The community centers now charge fees to use their facilities and many Blacks don’t reside there.
Baseball is another sport that’s dynamics has changed. My high school baseball team was half black, white and few Latinos. Fast forward the teams are all white.
Lastly, like others have stated sports is big business and it’s sickening to t.
Coached used to coach for the love of the game and to mentor and nurture youth. Now it’s all about clout, and money.

 

[advancedsion]

And this is exactly why the talent in the league today couldn't hold a candle to the talent during like the late 80's and 90's.

League is full of biracial players that made it through because of their mom being white and using her privilege

 

[Lena405]

Foreign players are taking all the spots from American Black NBA players.