https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/398499040
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/416847943

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Anonymous 09/24/23(Sun)21:14:51 No.35984505▶
>>35969472
have you ever plowed a field to grow fruits and crops? you have to kill a lot of small animals to plow a field like mice, ants, moles etc.
the real question is, how sweet must an animal be for you to not plow the field for your precious crops and just starve/die.

You can't have any pudding when you don't eat your meat!
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Anonymous 09/24/23(Sun)21:40:21 No.35984703▶
>>35982869
stop thinking your farms producing vegetables and fruiot arent destryoiung aND KILLING ANIMALS TOO./ RETARD. >freerange myth. are you mexican or some shit? come to canada where we have actualy 4reaL free range meat stupid fuck
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>be farmer
>burn down forest to build farmland
>who care if some random wildlife lose their home or die in the process
>plow the field
>enjoy the scream and the crunch of their bones
>plant GMO genetic abomination
>spray and kill any balance nature try to regain
>harvest come
>bust out combine harvester
>stupid little creature living in my field?
>enjoy the scream and snapping of their bone
>enjoy the crunch of their young when I drive right on by their nest
>land turns to dust, no matter just buy some fertilizer, fix it right up
>petroleum based fertilizer and glyophosphate washes off the hardened pan base since tilling causes a hydrophobic level of land underneath the surface, into the rivers and lakes
>cause oceanic dead zones killing billions etc of ocean life
>sell to delusional veganfags thinking it's make them more spiritual or moral or save muh environment or whatevar
>profit
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Anonymous (ID: +uPeUsVG)  10/10/23(Tue)11:24:57 No.444106440▶>>444110462 >>444110985
>>444097333
>>444097863

This is actually not too far from the truth. Established groups often created stratified hierarchies, and those nearer the top of the hierarchy hoard the meat. It's a nearly universal phenomenon that elites in any given society we not only have the first rights to eat meat, but will prevent the lower classes from hunting on the elite's land so the elite can have all the meat. Peasants in Medieval times didn't eat bread because meat was scarce, they ate bread because the nobles and Monarchy owned the hunting land. Same thing happened in Egypt, Mesoamerica, etc.
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Anonymous (ID: 0jle71BF)  10/10/23(Tue)13:49:13 No.444119352▶
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Anonymous (ID: 0jle71BF)  10/10/23(Tue)13:49:48 No.444119399▶
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Anonymous (ID: 8Jj73mOI)  11/08/23(Wed)09:37:45 No.447946551▶>>447947210 >>447947750 >>447952821
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>>447945874
The blue zone thing is a myth. First of all, these places are not even vegan. They eat more meat than pretty much every civilized nation in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-w6n59RfFc [Embed]

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Anonymous (ID: 8Jj73mOI)  11/08/23(Wed)09:25:25 No.447945372▶>>447945677 >>447945874
>>447944773
Im pretty sure that idea has been debunked already. Most of those places do eat meat, and if a netflix documentary is telling the unwashed masses to eat a vegan diet, then I think its pretty clear that there is an agenda there.
If you go vegan, you will age yourself worse than smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day, or a chronic alcoholic. Vegan diets are lacking in over 16 vital nutrients such as creatine, taurine, b6, b12, and vitamin K2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8aK_gkEFys&list=PLHLpup5t5SAZlSAOaL5Nfv6gE_QscQeSK&index=7 [Embed]
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https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/36515233

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Anonymous 11/25/23(Sat)23:49:03 No.72900360▶>>72900419 >>72900812 >>72906513
>>72899252 (OP)
It's a religious cult. Core value is misanthropy. They just hate humans and believe humans need to be punished. Probably stems from a hatred of themselves.

As a modern product, it's terrible for the environment. It necessitates global logistics and monoculture crops to even come close to having a complete nutritional profile for the average person, which it still fails at so they have to manufacture new methods of producing vitamins and nutrients in lab conditions suitable for vegans.

It's terrible for the animals, since vegans want to destroy their habitats. It's terrible all around. Poor nutrition, inherently destructive. And if you speak to one they'll speak like an evangelical. Their messages get out through propaganda documentaries which shill misinformation and sometimes just straight lies to support their cause.

And consider their goals. A large goal of theirs to convert others. Literal conversion of this very particular set of beliefs. It's bad for you, it's bad for society, it's bad for your health, it's bad for the world. Deep down vegans know this, and they smile.

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Anonymous 11/26/23(Sun)00:30:26 No.72900686▶
>>72900419
Yes vegans destroy habitats. There are lands which are not suitable for farming, and so animals are raised instead. Vegans want to destroy this, crumbling local food supply so people are forced to import soi from the US and China.

Vegans have less disease than a IRL nickacado. Vegans die or quit their diet from malnutrition regularly. Usually only after years of problems from the diet. It takes them that long to admit they were wrong because of how fanatic they were.

>we
Vegans treat people horribly. They treat animals horribly too. They're not interested in helping anyone considering nearly every vegan would unironically kill all humans if given the choice. They're a misanthropic cult who only want to hurt people.
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Anonymous 11/26/23(Sun)17:38:52 No.72906422▶>>72906428 >>72906498
>>72899252 (OP)
the problem is that there is no ethical veganism in practice. all forms of agriculture (and even hunter gathering) subjugate other animals. that onions farm took a potential habitat niche away from other living beings. harvesting is destructive and causes direct and indirect death and suffering. all life is at the subjugation of other life. veganism is small brained mole man ideology because it only considers first order effects. "you had to kill this cow to eat" yes. and the wheat field killed life also, and prevented potential life from existing.

i do not see a difference in principle. yes, in practice, livestock has maybe worse second order effects on habitat, especially if they're fed grains, or grazers reduce biodiversity of the land. but a mixed model (ie something like silver pasture) is best.

the vegan needs to acknowledge that their mere existence subjugates other life. there is no avoiding this. if they are to be a sophisticated utilitarian, they need to consider what is the greatest caloric to death ratio they can achieve (ie mow many calories can you get from one cow vs. the equivalent in multiple chickens).

if vegans were serious about their ideology, they'ed just kill themselves and take out as many other humans as possible in the act. but they're not serious and totally uncritical. I think most of them are stuck in what is effectively an eating disorder of purity. a steak is impure because it is the direct product of death and suffering - however a grain bun is clean, despite it also being the result of the same - just more removed.

ultimately i think they have brain rot, and as with most things of this kind, has little to do with what it claims to be about or in service to.
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Power rankings
S tier: ruminent game, bear, sandhill crane
A tier: grassfed beef, lamb, wild salmon, wild large shellfish
B tier: feed lot beef, gator, wild poultry, eel, poultry, shrimp
C tier: wild hog, peccary, squirrel, beaver, rabbit, red tunas
D tier: white fish, crawdads, goat
Shit tier: chicken, farmed hog
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Anonymous 11/27/23(Mon)00:57:45 No.72908660▶
>>72900419
monocrop agriculture absolutely brutalizes biodiversity of the land.
Plants and animals are symbiotic, for eons plants have utilized the manure and feeding practices of animals for nutrients/reproduction and the animals use the plants for food and shelter.

In order to create land for these monocrops you need to clear the trees and animals out of the way. The then spray the crops in poison to prevent insects from trying to consume them.
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Anonymous 01/12/24(Fri)17:28:06 No.36919873▶>>36919945
>>36917379
>Humans are omnivores but we're actually supposed to mainly eat fruit

Humans were apex predators for two million years, study finds.

What did our ancestors eat during the stone age? Mostly meat.

One prominent example is the acidity of the human stomach," says Dr. Ben-Dor. "The acidity in our stomach is high when compared to omnivores and even to other predators.

The fact that modern humans’ stomachs are more acidic than most carnivores’ points to the fact that our ancestors were well adapted to consume the meat of large animals they hunted, which would have fed a community for days or even weeks and would therefore have been full of bacteria.

This is backed up by the fact that several archaic hominids were morphologically adapted to hunt megafauna. Homo erectus, for instance, was equipped with shoulders that were ideal for throwing spears but unsuitable for tree climbing, suggesting that the species probably ate more meat than plants.

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Anonymous 03/06/24(Wed)19:31:47 No.37385662▶>>37385674
>>37385594
So if you die, does your vibration suddenly plummet? Is that what you foresee for yourself?
My culture believes in making the death of the animal whose meat we harvest as quick and painless as possible and ensuring they have the best life they can.
We have a biological requirement to eat meat and so we try to do it in as respectful a way as we can.
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