Wallpaper https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/85260002

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Anonymous 08/30/22(Tue)01:18:08 No.88352226▶>>88352382 >>88352385 >>88352536 >>88352938 >>88357172 >>88360610
Since you retards made two GNOME threads. A DWM thread died for this.
What does anon think of this new development?
https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/GNOME-Project-Releases-a-New-Telemetry-Data-Collection-Tool
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)10:46:34 No.95732332▶>>95732758 >>95733814 >>95733889 >>95734365 >>95740077 >>95751480
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Allan Day, Red Hat
>Facilitating the unrestricted use of extensions and themes by end users seems contrary to the central tenets of the GNOME 3 design.

William Jon McCann, Red Hat
>I guess you have to decide if you are a GNOME app, an Ubuntu app, or an XFCE app unfortunately. I'm sorry that this is the case but it wasn't GNOME's fault that Ubuntu has started this fork. And I have no idea what XFCE is or does sorry.

Owen Taylor, Red Hat
>The Power Off option is hidden because we don't believe it's necessary in that menu. The primary way that a user would shut down (if they, say, need to disconnect power) would be to log out and shut down through GDM.

Bastian Nocera, Red Hat
>We're not designing a desktop for people who like to choose their own terminal emulators.

>Disability flag
https://files.catbox.moe/0rmsh9.mp4

>Ebussi contemplates giving up
https://files.catbox.moe/zc3vjj.mp4

>The latvian energy
https://files.catbox.moe/vwhuiv.mp4
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GNOME hate thread Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)10:41:50 No.95732283▶>>95732362 >>95732456 >>95732536 >>95732758 >>95732846 >>95733045 >>95733375 >>95735531 >>95737457 >>95737996 >>95739940 >>95740077 >>95740747 >>95740999 >>95745778 >>95747912 >>95751444
Just a few random things I noticed pertaining to just how retarded GNOME devs are:

>Archive Manager cannot open archives with illegal characters in the filename. So if there's an apostrophe in the filename or something, it will fail to open the GUI. It's basically a 1:1 representation of using the CLI, no enhancements whatsoever. Engrampa handles this much better

>Rhythmbox is already an ugly mess, but for some reason they put a "Delete Files" option in the right click context menu, just above the "Remove from Playlist" option. There should be no option to delete your files from the fucking GUI audio player application.

>There is currently no way to hide appindicators (Tray icons). If you have a lot of applications that use them they will just stack up on the dash and take up half of the entire thing. GNOME devs say you should not be even using them and it's a problem with the applications themselves

>Screen blanking follows a retarded protocol. Many applications (most famously mpv) either don't or outright refuse to cater to GNOME's increasingly complex way to inhibit screen blanking. Many applications like IPTV or video game emulators will fail to inhibit screen lock while you're using them.

Anyone wanna continue with more?
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)11:29:50 No.95732758▶>>95734814
>>95732283 (OP)
>>95732332
GNOME devs don't use GNOME at home. They only develop it because they're paid to or because it scratches their "emulate steve jobs" itch. So they have no real interest in making GNOME actually be usable, only nominally usable on paper. Whenever they can think up an excuse to remove a feature they will, because it makes their job easier and they don't care about the end result actually being good.
Miguel de Icaza used a Mac at home and worked for Microsoft
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)11:57:14 No.95733072▶>>95733165 >>95739619 >>95751510
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>GNOME dev says he has written about 60 lines of code for GNOME in over 23 years
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>BrainBlasted
I must say he picked a very appropriate username for himself.
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Maybe we should all stop bitching and help GNOME instead of projecting this entitled attitude, right guys? I will write blog posts to help them. What about you guys?
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)12:05:01 No.95733145▶
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REMINDER : STOP THEMING GNOME APPS
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)12:47:25 No.95733629▶>>95733785 >>95733890
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>>95733423
>Ebussi posts here?
Everytime one or more of his retarded comments from the issue trackers find their way on this board, he immediately says something like pic related and locks the issue.

I also used to lurk in the GNOME matrix room, you can easily tell by the way he talks that he is a 4chan regular. For example, someone was "complaining" about how you have to write the full package ID of a flatpak if you want to run it from the terminal instead of writing the package name and ebussi (or maybe it was Matthias Classen) basically started seething and said something like "Stop harping about the naming, it's not going to change".
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)14:14:52 No.95734635▶>>95734650
>You don't NEED a minimize button.
>You don't NEED a system tray.
>You don't NEED a shutdown button.
>You don't NEED fractional scaling
at this point, GNOME should be the most lightweight DE in existance with all the features they remove.
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)18:57:26 No.95737457▶>>95737478 >>95737516 >>95747895
>>95732283 (OP)
>Totem, the gnome video player, has no option to play videos in their native resolution
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/totem/-/issues/327

>Eye of Gnome, the gnome image viewer, cannot open images past a certain size
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/eog/-/issues/170
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)19:01:27 No.95737516▶>>95738031 >>95747660 >>95747782
>>95737457
>Gnome Music has no volume slider
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-music/-/issues/343
>Gnome Music can't open audio files
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-music/-/issues/268
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Anonymous 09/02/23(Sat)08:50:24 No.95749284▶>>95750955
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>>95737979
This is what is actually happening. This faggot
>>95737869 just has all the bloat like GNOME Clock and GNOME Weather installed on his system so his notification area is larger. The bug is still there, it's just that it shrinks to hide the weather, clock and events area instead of the actual dates. Or he added like 10 events for the same day just to make sure that the dates didn't get hidden.
The absolute fucking state of GNOMEfags lmao. At least KDE is upfront about their glitches and bugs. Imagine being so fucking desperate that you have to lie about something so simple.
>why? looks normal
>E-EVERYTHING JUST WERKS!!!
Kek. These people are truly mentally ill.
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Anonymous 09/02/23(Sat)12:02:06 No.95751424▶
>>95750955
>is that on gnome 44
yes, latest fedora 38 release. I even tested gnome 45 on fedora 39 (rawhide), the bug has not gone.
The bug has been there for a long time now, not something that was introduced in the new gnome 44 releases. It has probably been there since gnome 40+ and it's definitely not a matter of what distro you are running, that's just completely retarded to even suggest.
Anyone trying to fool you by saying "werks on my machine" is a just a giant fanboy faggot.

This guy >>95738156 has the same issue on Gnome 43 Debian 12 but I guess he just doesn't see the issue in the webm he himself posted, kek. Installing Arch won't magically fix an upstream gnome-shell bug either. Arch specifically ships vanilla gnome.
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)19:52:06 No.95738148▶>>95740077
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Why is the filepicker such a goddamn joke?

>no way to default to showing a proper file path in the top, need to hit Ctrl+L every time to bring it up again
>spacebar doubles as the "enter" button, so when you use the filter function to find the file you want to pick, you end up prematurely selecting something and closing the filepicker if you're trying to search for ANYTHING with spaces in the name. No way to change this behavior
>thumbnails
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Anonymous 09/01/23(Fri)21:49:39 No.95739866▶>>95739977 >>95747281
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>>95739833
Minutes before
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Anonymous 09/02/23(Sat)01:43:31 No.95743387▶
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Remember that GNOME wanted to achieve 10% global desktop market share by 2010
https://wiki.gnome.org/10x10
So they shit on their users and do what they think will appeal to normies. And pic related is the result.
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>>95732283 (OP)
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Anonymous 09/02/23(Sat)12:20:04 No.95751607▶
>>95751510
>>95751529
>>95751535
You're surprised about the Foundation hiring niggers? They have been pretending to be the good guys for years now. Niggers, pajeets, women, trannies. Everyone needs to be "represented". Free software needs to be replaced with "ethical" software. Donations welcome btw, they all go to community outreach programs.
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Anonymous 09/02/23(Sat)14:00:40 No.95752653▶
>>95752405
Well, they hate Linus and RMS too. If you guys actively lurked in their Matrix channel, you would realize that these people think of themselves as the saviors of Desktop Linux. They have huge ego problems. That's why they got so pissed when System76 folks announced that they were working on their own DE. I don't even use Pop OS but I hope Cosmic becomes a hit among the normies just so I can watch GNOME devs seething.
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Anonymous 09/06/23(Wed)18:36:52 No.95834757▶>>95834811 >>95834822 >>95835451
>>95834308
They got backlash on it and weren't able to answer the "Why exactly do you need that?" question, so Fedora (RedHat) said that it's for GNOME (RedHat) while GNOME (RedHat) said it's for Fedora (RedHat). And both sides said that it HAS to be enabled by default, otherwise it's useless. and that it is neccessary because "everybody does it".
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Anonymous 09/08/23(Fri)13:55:38 No.95871833▶>>95872214 >>95872281
>>95871690
One of the main problems with GNOME is that their devs are so easily butthurt that they will ignore obvious issues and bugs for years, if the one who reported it used a wrong word or if a GNOME dev got pointed out to be wrong.
They don't use their own DE, they don't give a fuck.

That could be super simple things
i.e. Alt-Tab used to cycle between all applications of all virtual desktops / workspaces, which was very confusing and defeated the purpose of virtual desktops.
It got reported, a dev claimed that it WAI and that windows and mac do it the same way (linux DEs dont count, only comparisons to windows).
The reporter did the unthinkable and proved him wrong and said that windows does not do that.
The issue got ignored for five years and then finally quietly in an update they changed Alt-Tab to be consistent with everyone else.

There are multiple examples of those. One issue was about the terminal taking multiple seconds to close if there is a background process still going. They got a patch submitted that solves it.
The dev even openly stated that he doesnt want to fix it because the one reporting the issue was rude to him.
Multiple distributions shipped their own patches to solve it themselves.
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Anonymous 09/08/23(Fri)17:35:07 No.95874031▶>>95874181
>>95873988
>GNOME isnt for old computers
>GNOME isnt for HiDPI monitors
so what is its usecase?
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 Anonymous 10/07/23(Sat)11:55:09 No.96493446▶>>96494282 >>96494303 >>96494501 >>96495432 >>96498629 >>96501540 >>96502338 >>96503554 >>96503565 >>96503897 >>96504722 >>96506294 >>96506986 >>96508773 >>96510569 >>96512879 >>96515941 >>96521689 >>96525575 >>96525650
>"Hard to maintain" is just an excuse GNOME devs come up with to enforce their shitty vision. A good and very recent example is accent colors. GNOME devs have absolutely fucking hated the idea of accent colors since forever.
Recently though, accent color support was added in freedesktop for DEs to use and now GNOME devs had no choice but to bite the bullet and implement it. But they started fighting with the devs of KDE, MATE, Budgie, COSMIC and every other DE under the sun about "arbitrary" accent colors.

>Basically, GNOME wants to implement accent colors such that you can only use a few particular colors that the GNOME design gods choose for you. You get no choice of your own. Every other DE wants to let their users choose any HEX code as accent color but GNOME is against that. They say shit like "We have been fighting very hard to get even this" like they are fucking victims.

>As you can imagine, the choice between arbitrary accent colors and certain hardcoded accent colors is NOT about maintainence. They just don't want users to have a choice.
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Anonymous 10/07/23(Sat)13:13:22 No.96494524▶>>96499209 >>96504455
>>96494371
The jump from GTK2 (it worked fairly ok) to GTK3 was a disaster.
It is slow, over engineered peace of GNOME bloatware.

It literally requires you to install parts of the gnome environment.

GTK applications dropped support for pixel fonts recently, well good luck using a terminal emulator with ugly ass anti aliassed washed out letters...

GTK is so fucking bad that a simple resize of a window triggers a gazillion events per second grinding the application to a halt, you think GNOME devs would optimize their code ?
of course not !, instead theuly introduced a fucking HAMBURGER MENU to a desktop application, effectively hiding most of the elements behind it, so that the resize would kill the UX anymore.

Most projects nowadays are dropping GTK nowadays anyway so there's that, but still.
GTK shouldn't be allowed to be released passed GTK2.
And don't even let me started about the desktop itself. I wouldn't even call this laggy phone UI a desktop. It's impractical in every aspect but that's a different story.
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Anonymous 10/07/23(Sat)17:25:48 No.96497801▶
From Wikipedia:

>GNOME aims to make and keep the desktop environment physically and cognitively ergonomic for people with disabilities. The GNOME HIG tries to take this into account as far as possible but specific issues are solved by special software.
I'm partially sighted with some issues in my hands and make use of accessibility features like screen magnification. I'd been using Gnome since it came with Ubuntu since 2004. I had every incentive NOT to migrate away to another DE after setting up exactly the way I needed to after migrating away from Windows.

In 2011 I simply couldn't use Gnome anymore. They kept just removing critical stuff from the DE like the Desktop icons. Their reasoning was bizarre like they wanted to hindert the Desktop experience to make Gnome more "mobile friendly". Seems they didn't even bother to ask about how these changes would affect accessibility.

I just moved to KDE. Does it have it's issues like occasionally having to reload the taskbar and having the mouse pointer slow? Sure. But I will take these any time over people that just introduce breaking changes to the DE for bizarre reasons that nobody was asking for.

Also their community is full of idiots:
>desktop is a relic from the 80s, it's a good thing it's gone!
I was going to sarcastically tell them why not remove the terminal but then I realised they might actually do such a thing if I mention it.
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Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 09:31:56 No.96681479 Report
Quoted By: >>96705325
>>96663616
>This is an open source project, so if anyone wants to speed up things either contribute with code or donations.
lmao, hundreds of thumbnail picker implementations have been proposed, all rejected until some retard from redhat did it himself by c/p a bunch of code from various places, they just don't give a single fuck about feature contributions from external contributors.
fix their bugs for free and eat shit, that's how gnome operates.
>You guys are doing an amazing work, don't let the toxic behavior of a few outshine that!
no they aren't, gnome and its ecosystem are objectively dogshit, you can just navigate their issue tracker and see how pretentious and bad at their job these retards are (see the gtk4 font shitshow, it's the most laughable thing I've ever see in the software world, these dudes are incredibly stupid).
if there is ONE project in the open source world that rightfully deserves hate it's the gnome project, they hate you, they think your opinion is worthless, your need does not exist and it will be better if you just dropped dead as they don't have time to interact with people outside redhat who show interest in their pet peeve project. it's astonishing how hateful they are, much more so that suckless and other autistic foss groups.
btw if you're white, they hate you and they explicitely encourages harrassment against you, this should be enough to avoid this project, it's even easier to do these days given how incredibly fast the kde and wlroot ecosystems are growing and how rock-solid all of this is.
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Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 13:47:22 No.96684655 Report
Quoted By: >>96685543 >>96687105
I've actually submitted bug fixes to GTK4. I don't recommend ever dealing with gnomes. They deserve all the hate they get and more. They do not want you to improve their garbage code for them, they want to whine about no one helping them. It is more important to them to have a moral high ground than it is to have working software. Unless it's the most straightforward one-liner like a missing null check they'll nitpick and bikeshed until you give up so that they can turn around and claim no one is willing to work on it.

GNU style, though, is far and away the worst code style guide I've ever had to follow. Bitch about spaces vs tabs or braces on their own line, sure, but I've never seen braces getting their own indentation level.
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Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 17:34:34 No.96687515 Report
>>96685543
100% accurate
View SameGoogleImgOpsiqdbSauceNAO gnome-dev-wont-look-at-patches-u (...).png, 76KiB, 1754x428

Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 17:35:36 No.96687527 Report
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