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Most viewed lost videos about an hour ago

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On April 21st, 2022, a public German broadcaster, "Y-Kollektiv", aired the mini-documentary "30 Tage Challenge: So schwierig war es, keinen Alkohol zu trinken! | Y-Kollektiv" ("30-day challenge: How difficult it was not to drink alcohol"). Its thumbnail reads "Hauptsache Alkohol?", meaning "most importantly, alcohol?".

The documentary was widely criticized by other popular German video creators, including Tim Heldt, for glorifying alcohol consumption. In case anyone didn't know, there is an epidemic of alcohol addiction in Germany.

As a result of the criticism, a follow-up video "Q&A | 30 Tage Challenge: So schwierig war es, keinen Alkohol zu trinken! | Y-Kollektiv" was published on the secondary channel "Y-zwei" on April 28th, where the protagonist of the documentary, Carolin von der Groeben, responded to the criticism and tried to defend their point of view. Notice the "Q&A" at the beginning of the title.

Around May 2022, both of those videos were voluntarily taken down (privated) by Y-Kollektiv due to excessive criticism. Y-Kollektiv could not resist the criticism any longer. Thankfully, the first video was picked up by the lost & found office of the Internet, the Internet Archive. However, the second video is lost to history.

Only its watch page was captured by the Archive (takes a while to load due to the Archive having to cope with YouTube's crappy "Polymer" framework), and it was not uploaded anywhere else.

Despite all the scrutiny by other major video creators, the second video in its entirety is memory-holed. Only small excerpts are visible in responses such as at 10m36s in the criticism video by Tim Heldt.

Last Edit: 51 minutes ago by gordon: improved formatting

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Track created in 2011 and uploaded to SoundCloud in 2017 Jun 18, 2023 at 9:06pm

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Post by gordon on Jun 18, 2023 at 9:06pm

You are probably looking for "No Words" by Jethro Heston, uploaded to SoundCloud on April 27, 2017.

From its description:

A little present for you. I made this track 6 years ago in 2011 and came across it today whilst searching through my old files. Never heard by anyone but me. It differs from my current style but feels good to listen to... uplifting, deep, intense, just how I like it. The vocal sample still gives me goosebumps. Enjoy.

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Most viewed lost videos Nov 4, 2022 at 6:22pm

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Post by gordon on Nov 4, 2022 at 6:22pm

In a viral video I saw in 2018 or 2019, someone's smartphone (likely iPhone 6 or 6s) fell into a ground-level whirlpool as an unintended consequence of some other prank. That prank could have been someone throwing a dummy (fake) smartphone into the pool, but I am not sure. After the real iPhone feel into the pool, the owner tried to quickly fish it out of the pool, it flew into the air, and landed in the pool again.

The man was standing roughly at a ten-o-clock angle to the pool from the cameras perspective. Perhaps there was a larger pool on the left side, with only the edge visible in the video during that scene, but I am not fully sure.

Since the smartphone was, as far as I remember, an iPhone 6 or 6s, the prank was likely originally filmed in late 2014 or 2015 or 2016.

I could not find that video when searching for "phone water prank", "waterproof prank", "phone falls in pool", "iPhone prank gone wrong", each without quotation marks, and variations thereof. Possibly, some of the large prank channels have sanitized their history, though there was nothing out of scope about that video for a prank channel.

In a video which was likely included in an "expensive fails" compilation, three teenagers blocked a car (likely a cabriolet) with their kick scooters (likely electronic ones, which would make it more expensive) at a traffic light, possibly for amusement. The car driver honked his horn once or twice as far as I remember. Then, out of anger, he got out of the car, ripped one of the scooters away from one of the blockers, and threw it off the bridge they were standing on.

The ground below the bridge was largely sand or desert, no river. If there was a river, it must have been a narrow one, but the ground was largely yellowish.

Looking at archived browsing history from 2018, I could not find that scene in any of the "expensive fails" videos I watched. Roughly a quarter of those videos are no longer available as of writing, meaning the scene could have very well been in one of those videos. Many of those videos had several millions of views. Re-uploads might exist out there, though unless they have the exact same title as the original, they will be nearly impossible to find in an ocean of similarly titled videos.

It could still be out there, and I already searched for terms such as "man throws scooter off bridge", "teenagers block car using scooters" (without quotation marks) and similar, but could not find it or anything resembling.

Last Edit: Nov 4, 2022 at 6:27pm by gordon: wording and clarification

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VideoDays Germany live broadcasts Sep 18, 2022 at 5:44pm

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The VideoDays are an annual event in Germany where YouTube celebrities perform their music on stage and give out signatures to attending fans (German Wikipedia).

As of writing, the earliest video available on their channel is from 11 days ago. Anything older than that has been taken down, including the full-length live broadcasts and separate videos of individual creators performing.

Perhaps the most notable moment in the history of the VideoDays is from the August 2016 event, where the two smaller YouTubers "KuchenTV" (Tim) and "Darkey" ran on stage in animal costumes, and Tim grabbed ahold of the microphone of the major YouTuber "KS Freak" (also known as "KSFreakWhatElse", real name Marcel) who was performing his million-subscriber celebration song "1 million" together with his colleagues "Krappi" and "MefYou", though Marcel had over 1.6 million subscribers at that time. Then Tim screamed "subscribe to KuchenTV!" into the microphone. After Tim left ahold of the microphone, Marcel shouted in rage "what a son of a ____" into the microphone, and showed the middle finger. (excerpt, 1.570.558 views as of writing) (original URL of full 2016 broadcast, obviously private now)

A 2014 channel archive shows they once used to keep the live broadcasts. An October 2016 archive of the video list shows that the August 2016 live broadcast was already taken down in less than two months, possibly owed to the indicent mentioned above. Individual creators' broadcasts were still on air, excluding that of KS Freak, presumably due to the incident.

Last Edit: Sep 18, 2022 at 5:47pm by gordon: wording

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Sommermädchen – German reality TV show from 2009 and 2011 Sep 18, 2022 at 11:41am

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The episodes of this reality TV game show were originally posted to YouTube, and available until at least 2015 or 2016 (this URL for example), but now they are nowhere to be found.

The show has a German Wikipedia article.

It is not that I am especially interested in the show, and other similar shows exist anyway, but I added it here since it has not been posted before.

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Most viewed lost videos Sep 12, 2022 at 1:43pm

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I have asked myself "after how many views can a video still become memory-holed?" (meaning no publicly accessible copy exists) after I could nowhere find a video which gained over 700 thousand views in one day:

“2.000.000 Aufrufe nach 14 Stunden | ApoRed”

On May 14, 2016, the popular controversial German-Afghani YouTube creator "ApoRed" (earlier "ApokalyptoRed", real name "Nadim") uploaded the second revision of his music video "Everyday Saturday", after the first one rose to the most downvoted video from any German video creator in YouTube history at that time. Over half a million dislikes.

The archives show that it gained over 30.000 views within minutes after being uploaded (14 May 2016 19:04:18 UTC), and over a million views half a day after upload (15 May 2016 09:57:42 UTC). Now, the original music video is not lost, since it gained over 13 million views and was even re-uploaded in 2019 by the creator Nadim himself on a new channel (with the only difference being that the section between from 43 to 47 seconds is blurred out). But the seven-minute follow-up video "2.000.000 Aufrufe nach 14 Stunden" ("2 million views after 14 hours"), which was published on May 15th 2016, where he discusses what the title suggests, is nowhere to be found.

Archive of channel page with that video listed: youtube.com/user/ApokalyptoRed (16 May 2016 20:19:27 UTC)

Thumbnail:

“Von grauen Avataren und der Unterwelt des Internets ”

The video "YouTube Deutschland Zerstörung (Schlechter Content ist eine Entscheidung)", uploaded by the popular German documentary channel "Simplicissimus" in August 2016 when they had ~30.000 subscribers, was lost for around a year when it was set to private in 2020. An archive of the watch page shows it was at least available until 15 Jul 2020 00:14:15 UTC. The video, which criticized several big names in the German YouTube community, gained over 463 thousand views before being set to private. Thankfully, that video resurfaced in 2021 due to being provided by archivist Reddit user "NimboGringo".

However, the watch page archive from 27 Oct 2017 13:17:14 UTC shows another video: "Von grauen Avataren und der Unterwelt des Internets ", a five-minute video with over 118 thousand views. An archive dated 20 May 2015 04:10:25 UTC shows it was uploaded on April 28th, 2015, making it one of the earliest videos of "Simplicissimus". They had only 51 subscrbiers, whereas they have over a million today.

Tweets sent via YouTube AutoShare (a feature removed in January 2019) show it was on air until at least September 2018.

One of the most controversial videos from 2016 was published by the Turkish-German video creator Mert Matan on March 13th that year, where he pretends to be homosexual in front of his father, in response to which he was beaten. The authenticity of the video was also questioned. Nonetheless, the video made news headlines and gained over a million views within days.

An archive (14 Mar 2016 17:48:13 UTC) shows it already had half a million views on the day after being uploaded, and over a million on 16 Mar 2016 07:58:37 UTC. The original six-minute video is nowhere to be found.

“POLIZEI-SIRENEN PRANK !!!”

On July 16th 2017, another highly controversial German YouTube prankster, Leon Machère, with over two million subscribers, published a video where he drove on a motorway with a fake police siren. That video also caused news headlines.

An archive (20 Jul 2017 00:02:26 UTC) shows it had over half a million views within four days of being uploaded. The full eight-minute video exists nowhere, only some reaction and news videos which show little excerpts.

Last Edit: Sep 12, 2022 at 2:18pm by gordon: formatting; grammar; URL and detail added

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Dubstep music by Noah Tyler (ia7music) Aug 22, 2022 at 12:05pm MantleM likes this

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The German dubstep music artist Noah Tyler has unfortunately closed his site and channels. Some music channels have reposted few of his tracks, but anything that was only stored on his own channels got lost when he decided to vanish from the Internet.

One of the lost dubstep tracks is "Noah Tyler - Green". It is used at 26 seconds into this video, but has engine noise in the background:

No untouched version is available online.

As a reference, here an available track by same artist, Noah Tyler - Blue, which survived thanks to being the most popular one:

This playlist that formerly stored his music is blank. The artist's Twitter account "ia7music" is gone too

Tweet with reply to him:

Twitter search which shows more replies to him: archive.today/2022.08.22-110817/https://twitter.com/search?q=ia7music&src=typed_query

His YouTube channel was replaced with a picture similar to Curious George the monkey, i.e. closed. As far as I know, YouTube only indicates the reason for why the channel is gone for a few weeks. After that, it does not indicate why the channel was closed, but just shows a HTTP 404, as if the channel never existed.

Some more resources:

YouTube channel archive: 2013.04.06-001533;
YouTube searches: Noah Tyler, ia7music.
His web site "IA7music.de": 2014.05.17-114431.

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Early 2010s hardwave remixes May 22, 2022 at 1:47am

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For example, some remixes were stored by the YouTube channel "Hardwave Uploadz". Apparently, they got many remixes from the social network "VKontakte", uploaded them on YouTube, unlisted them at some point, and it all seemed fine. But then, this happened:

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Some of the lost songs are linked from this playlist capture from March 2021 (original URL), such as "Linkin park - Numb (Dj JendozZz rmx 2011)" (original URL) and "One republic & Timbaland - Apologize (Dj Sergey Sky VS Dj Zummer)" (original URL, Google search).

The DJ Sergey Sky has a SoundCloud profile, but most music appears to have been purged at some point.

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Videos from "Vlare.TV", a defunct video platform Apr 28, 2022 at 3:36am

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Vlare.TV was founded in May 2019. It appeared very promising, had fancy features and a beautiful site design, and worked largely without issues for over a year, but then tragically and abruptly succumbed to a DMCA attack and a maliciously acting web hosting provider in August 2020.

In the video below, which was originally aired on VidLii on August 25, 2020 as "The status of Vlare", the operators of Vlare made promises of recovering, later followed by numerous promises after that video, but in July 2021, they have announced permanently ceasing operations.

Announcement video:

In the video, the Vlare developers describe how their web hosting provider failed to deliver a DMCA t****own request from August 14 to them. After three days without the developers being able to respond, the provider suspended the developers' access to the servers, where the videos were stored.

Then, the developers contacted the provider, which then claimed that the data is not recoverable without a court order due to an unspecified German law. Then the provider threatened the developers to immediately terminate their rented servers should they receive a court order, making it a vicious circle.

<rant>

In other words, Vlare's hosting provider screwed up majorly. First, they failed to deliver a notice, and then they locked out the developers from their rented servers for not responding to a notice the provider themselves failed to deliver. So the host shifted their mistake to the developers. This basically is bullying.

In the video, the developers make the appearance that they feel guilty, even though the rogue hosting provider is to blame.

</rant>

Later in the video, they developers mention having made the last full backup "two to three months" prior to the disaster, meaning in May or June 2020.

I tried to find a way to reach out to them, but I could not find any contact endpoints. One of the developers, nicknamed "Sudeurion", has even deleted their Twitter account. Their former VidLii profile first redirects to "vidlii.com/user/Homicide", and then to the home page with the notice "This user has voluntarily terminated their own account!". This is somewhat worrying.

Lost videos of interest

Please post videos of interest that were on Vlare TV but are now lost. Perhaps we can discover some again through our collective efforts.

On June 29, 2020 (archive), a series of videos were posted by the Vlare developers: "FREE VLARE ADMIN but why?" (ID zBbp4cj9), "COMING TOMORROW FREE VLARE ADMIN" (ID 60Z4mR5T), "FREE VLARE ADMIN in 24 HOURS" (ID 6uZn8fTf). Apparently, those were part of a humorous gag / prank.
On June 23, 2019, the Vlare user "TVCancerPatient" (which exists on no other platform) posted a 25-second video titled "Susan Shuffle" (ID JZd9tTPn, listed on this page). The thumbnail shows a picture of YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki with the text "The Susan Shuffle". Apparently, it was some satirical/humorous video criticizing Susan Wojcicki.

About the Vlare channel "TVCancerPatient": Their channel page was not picked up by the Wayback Machine. However, their channel is listed on this page from July 15, 2019. Their profile picture was Susan Wojcicki with devil horns.

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Flowinity Show from defunct video platform Viduro Apr 28, 2022 at 1:52am

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In the summer of 2018, the operators of the video platform "Viduro" (nicknamed "TheTroplo") launched a 3D animated series named the "Flowinity Show" (IMDb listing). As the thumbnail on IMDb suggests, the show was broadcasted exclusively to Viduro, meaning when the platform shut down in spring of 2019 with little announcement, all of the dozens of episodes in four seasons went with it.

This channel page archive from February 2019 is the final capture of its channel. Eposides' length typically ranges from one to five minutes. However, in the archived listing, there is a video titled "Flowinity Movie 2" (ID VpR2HWdR3uTBSO2) that stands out with its 48 minutes' length. Its title suggests there had been another earlier "Flowinity Movie".

Last Edit: Apr 28, 2022 at 3:44am by gordon: missing word "to" at "exclusively to Viduro"

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Videos from "ClipBits", the predecessor of "VidLii" Apr 1, 2022 at 9:49pm

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In 2015, a video platform named "ClipBits" was created by apparently the same people who later launched "VidBit", "VidLii", and "Vlare.TV" (some sources claim "ClipBits" was renamed to "VidBit"). However, from "ClipBits", there are just three surviving screenshots, the latest from a tweet dated 2015-08-23 from VidLii's Twitter account (hot link, archive 1, archive 2, short URL, Imgur mirror), which presumably had a different name back then. It resembles YouTube's 2006 layout, though with changed colour scheme. The other two are in this Imgur gallery.

According to the "about" page of Vlare.TV, ClipBits was lost to a hard disk failure. Some interesting-looking videos listed in this screenshot like "Super Mario 64 Die Computerwelt", which translates into "Super Mario 64 – the computer world", uploaded by a user named "Darknova009", appear to exist nowhere else.

"This, kids, is why one does not rely on only one platform."

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Musician Frédéric Chaslin's SoundCloud mostly memory-holed. Mar 17, 2022 at 7:20pm

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Cultural loss – SoundCloud is not an archive.

As can be seen from the webpage archives, the popular french musician and conductor Frédéric Chaslin purged every track except one of his SoundCloud repository early this year.

Some of the tracks are covers of classic musicians like Beethoven, which were played by an orchestra that was directed by him. He uploaded them in early 2013. According to description, these played on radio! His exact iteration of some of the tracks like the fifth symphony currently are nowhere to be found after having been on air for nine years (over 3.000 days) with over 700,000 plays and over 15,000 times favourited.

It used to be the first result on SoundCloud for Beethoven's fifth symphony (archive), meaning it was the most popular iteration.

Spontaneous takedown by uploader is a risk not to be underestimated to any online media. Statistically, it appears to be very high up in the "leading causes of fatality" for web media.

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Backup plan for the forum and wiki Mar 13, 2022 at 1:06am recklessfrog and Anfang like this

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Mar 12, 2022 at 8:04am phlmhunter said:

Two words: Internet Archive

One of the best projects in existence. They are among the greatest saints of the Internet. However, the Wayback Machine very likely does not cover 100% of posts, and page text is not searchable (possibly because they store them using strong compression), whereas an archive file with all user contributions is both searchable and has full coverage.

Exemplarily, Wikipedia regularly generates compressed archives of their historically significant content, meaning if it shut down or had a long-lasting outage, contributions would not be memory-holed.

I don't expect the Internet Archive to shut down any time soon (which would be against its purpose), but our contributions are likelier to survive for decades if distributed through a peer-to-peer network through archive files. The Internet Archive has been legally attacked by greedy book publishing houses for doing the right thing in 2020, meaning we can not depend on one organization to keep our history intact eternally, even if it is them.

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Backup plan for the forum and wiki Mar 10, 2022 at 12:07pm recklessfrog likes this

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Post by gordon on Mar 10, 2022 at 12:07pm

In the past, I have referenced and contributed to sites such as Yahoo Answers, which disappointingly ended up shutting down with little notice after operating seemingly well for a long time, i.e. over a decade.

I don't expect it to happen here any time soon, but in the case that this forum which stores historically significant content ends up shutting down at some point in future, I would like to ask whether it has a backup plan. Since text compresses efficiently, will a compressed archive of users' contributions be released? And how long in advance would there be a warning?

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