How to help preservation without seeding all torrents?

[Derpitron]

I want to help preserve all these torrents/magnets. But I don't have the disk space to seed everything.

How can I help out, beyond forking this repo?

[travisterrell]

Idk myself, but FWIW I suspect forking won't do a ton, just because there is a 0% chance that GitHub won't remove this and all forks as soon as they get a DMCA notice. (And there are surely dozens of them currently en route, lol.)

[crackwitz]

I would suggest gathering all the .torrent files at least. That doesn't mean the content of the torrents, just the .torrent files.

The magnets themselves don't describe the content. Each of those magnets describes a .torrent file.

Many of the .torrent files can still be downloaded from the network because every seed of the torrent's content is also a seed of the .torrent file itself.

[Martinligabue]

Some decentralisation could be achieved by creating a website hosted on IPFS (so it stays online without a single server, and easily reachable via IPNS), or a torrent that contains everything.
Like Torrent Paradise, which continued to operate for months after the official servers were shut down (now it seems no one has the files anymore, since the search doesn't work). (bafybeibdvh7bkqlh72witdvtk2dndlndj67zgws5rutawenton4qckjjfy it didn't have an easy ipns, but it worked)

[mrx23dot]

with magnet don't forget to set your trackers to known ones, so we find each other
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ngosang/trackerslist/master/trackers_best.txt

[mrx23dot]

Idk myself, but FWIW I suspect forking won't do a ton, just because there is a 0% chance that GitHub won't remove this and all forks as soon as they get a DMCA notice. (And there are surely dozens of them currently en route, lol.)

What if we remove the magnet link and just use filename+hash as csv.

[crackwitz]

Legally the same thing (inb4 "no it's not"). Don't complicate it.

[2004content]

Sup fellas. I appreciate the help. Once I can get all the magnets together and indexed, I'll probably hand it off to one or a few of you guys to stretch the project further. I'd love for some sort of restored site to be able to go up, but that's not my thing. I dunno what sort of DMCA trouble I could get into here, I doubt I've done anything blatant enough to get in serious trouble (I hope). Hey, I never told you guys to download the magnets, I just scraped and preserved them. That doesn't count as direct distribution of copyrighted content hopefully.

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[a-raccoon]

I found this paste on IRC. Looks like mostly movies/h264/1080 category of low bitrate english (-RARBG) and foreign (-VXT) films.

https://privatebin.net/?58fba245e3e2c96d#EAJwnc2p6xpQpY7k4Phg3f1wbd1vz1Xs1VGRADM9gTnY

[nektro]

@crackwitz magnet urls do describe content. .torrents were popular before magnet urls existed since you can add extra metadata and more easily preload a list of trackers to use, etc. but the part of a torrent that includes the checksum data for the content being described is is included in the infohash that makes up the primary part of a magnet uri and can be obtained by connecting to peers through trackers and DHT

[mrx23dot]

There are other big magnet databases which would be great to merge:

https://magnetsdb.com/search?title=633+Squadron
https://bitsearch.to/search?q=633+Squadron
https://www.imdbtorrent.com/tt0057811

[mrx23dot]

@crackwitz magnet urls do describe content. .torrents were popular before magnet urls existed since you can add extra metadata and more easily preload a list of trackers to use, etc. but the part of a torrent that includes the checksum data for the content being described is is included in the infohash that makes up the primary part of a magnet uri and can be obtained by connecting to peers through trackers and DHT

someone also posted the torrent files on reddit,
we could upload those to https://torrage.info/ for redundancy,
based on hash then we could download the torrent file too for meta info.

[mrx23dot]

also an interesting project p2p search engine, maybe that's the future
https://github.com/DEgITx/rats-search

[cs2000]

Someone has already mentioned it, but remember forking isn't "backing up" this repo . I would recommend downloading this either manually or using GitHub Desktop, the takedown notices will be coming for this repo and if/when it comes, it takes down all forks.

[mrx23dot]

Magnet Links + Blockchain = censorship resist

instead of fearing that government takes down our precious torrent sites why don't we build a blockchain out of it?

• Highly distributed, impossible to block
  

• constantly updated, always up to date (Fresh juicy stuff)
  

• infinite history
  

• never have to find the next rarbag which will be taken down eventually
  

not sure how to stop spams though, no voting, only static data (name and hash)

[a-raccoon]

Stop bickering and debating your bullshit. Stay on topic and delete all your previous posts now.

[Martinligabue]

Stop bickering and debating your bullshit. Stay on topic and delete all your previous posts now.

the topic is "help preservation without seeding all torrents", and these answers are possible ways of doing that, even you suggested a Pastebin at one point, so why are you so itchy?

[a-raccoon]

This is for DO not DISCUSS. If you don't know what a magnet is, or how it's useful, or even if you do know but you disagree, go the fuck away. There is only DO no CRY.

[mrx23dot]

wow it already exists, blockchain based backup https://github.com/Stuyk/eos-torrent
@Stuyk

[Stuyk]

@mrx23dot It's not a free solution. It will cost in the form of RAM on the EOS Blockchain. Which means it will take additional currency to store string data on-chain. Take a look at Gun DB sometime. Might be more inline with costs, and usefulness. 👍🏻

[mrx23dot]

@Stuyk thanks for the info, as I checked smallest unit gives us ~11 000 entries for 1usd, might also help with spam,
https://eosio.stackexchange.com/questions/4305/what-is-the-smallest-unit-of-eos
given smallest unit is enough for a transaction/addition, but you might know better.

Gun DB is interesting, can we enforce only adding to it, preventing one person overriding/deleting entries?

[Stuyk]

@Stuyk thanks for the info, as I checked smallest unit gives us ~11 000 entries for 1usd, might also help with spam, https://eosio.stackexchange.com/questions/4305/what-is-the-smallest-unit-of-eos given smallest unit is enough for a transaction/addition, but you might know better.

Gun DB is interesting, can we enforce only adding to it, preventing one person overriding/deleting entries?

https://gun.eco/docs/Frozen

[mrx23dot]

Found an active blockhain one, 2usd/1000 uploads, FREE for search/downloads
https://github.com/ortegaalfredo/blockchainbay

[Rukono]

you can use a site like archive.org to preserve without tanking space

[dshatz]

Found an active blockhain one, 2usd/1000 uploads, FREE for search/downloads https://github.com/ortegaalfredo/blockchainbay

I'm ready to help arrange this.
The idea is as follows:

• Custom smart contract based on the blockchainbay dedicated to rarbg torrents.
• A simple desktop/mobile app capable of searching torrents on the blockchain.
• A way to upload torrents (web3 website?)

This way it seems possible to more or less recreate un-bannable rarbg clone and even keep it alive by uploading new torrents.

How many torrents are we talking about? What's the most complete backup we have? Once we know the number we can see if we can arrange a small crowdfunding for this goal.