Data recovery and disk repair questions and discussions related to old-fashioned SATA, SAS, SCSI, IDE, MFM hard drives - any type of storage device that has moving parts
October 15th, 2015, 12:32
hello masters, this is my 1st post here,my greetings to all
I have a samsung hardisk here hdd321HJ with hdd322hj board
it seems someone replaced the board because of failure or because the newest board have more cache
hdd321hj: 8mb cache
hdd322hj:16mb cache
The hardisk is working very fine and fast , no damaged sectors, but there is a error in smart I think is produced by the new board or something like that
the error is in END TO END ERROR DETECTION

is there a way to solve this?
can I upgrade the firmware of the board? maybe this will solve the smart error?
thanks
October 15th, 2015, 13:16
I don't see easy way how to solve this problem. If you have pc3000 or other utility which could work with samsung - you need just clear smart.
October 15th, 2015, 15:43
Buy a new drive.
Look at the relocated sectors ...
October 16th, 2015, 5:36
the pc3000 is a expensive tool of course I haven't one of these
Splitdit
what's wrong with relocated sector count? can u explain a bit
I have tested this harddisk with hdd regenerator and flobohardiskrepair, both programs report no sectors damaged
I sense the drive is ok but smart is reporting wrong numbers because the board of this hardisk is not the original one
October 16th, 2015, 14:26
It's not about board.
If you will use other board - smart will show same staff.
If you want to repair drive you need to clear smart some how. Plus there are relocated sectors which mean that drive found bad sectors and exchanged them by good ones from spare area.
October 17th, 2015, 6:46
The board on this model does not store any data related to SMART so replacing the board doesn't bring smart errors from the previous drive.
SMART here is stored in the firmware on the platters, and looking at uncorrectable read errors and relocated sectors there is no fixing this drive just throw it out and buy a new one.
October 23rd, 2015, 14:53
Spildit wrote:Buy a new drive.
Look at the relocated sectors ...
Spildit ,
Nothing great there .Just Reallocated Sectors .They can be shifted to the right defect list and smart could be cleared and hdd erased [ or translator regenerated ] And scanned again if no bad sectors " ready to use " .
October 23rd, 2015, 15:09
Amarbir wrote:Spildit wrote:Buy a new drive.
Look at the relocated sectors ...
Spildit ,
Nothing great there .Just Reallocated Sectors .They can be shifted to the right defect list and smart could be cleared and hdd erased [ or translator regenerated ] And scanned again if no bad sectors " ready to use " .
HDD321HJ Samsung.
You would need to run BURN so you would need tools like PC-3000 or SHT + BURN IN scrip + resources. It could even kill the drive for good as well. This would be the only way to do it reliably.
Cosmetic fix like moving defects on the A-List to the primary defect list + reseting S.M.A.R.T. would be of little use as the drive would devellop more bad sectors very soon, as heads are not "calibrated" or optimized to the current state of the platters. Like on Seagate prior to f3 when you run a full SS and you get new adaptives and heads get optimized values to the current state of the platter + defects are cleared from G list and P-List is created from scratch you can do the same on Samsung by BURN.
Cheaper alternative would be SHT+BURN Scripts and the price would be way more then the price of a single drive.
October 24th, 2015, 0:35
Spildit wrote:Amarbir wrote:Spildit wrote:Buy a new drive.
Look at the relocated sectors ...
Spildit ,
Nothing great there .Just Reallocated Sectors .They can be shifted to the right defect list and smart could be cleared and hdd erased [ or translator regenerated ] And scanned again if no bad sectors " ready to use " .
HDD321HJ Samsung.
You would need to run BURN so you would need tools like PC-3000 or SHT + BURN IN scrip + resources. It could even kill the drive for good as well. This would be the only way to do it reliably.
Cosmetic fix like moving defects on the A-List to the primary defect list + reseting S.M.A.R.T. would be of little use as the drive would devellop more bad sectors very soon, as heads are not "calibrated" or optimized to the current state of the platters. Like on Seagate prior to f3 when you run a full SS and you get new adaptives and heads get optimized values to the current state of the platter + defects are cleared from G list and P-List is created from scratch you can do the same on Samsung by BURN.
Cheaper alternative would be SHT+BURN Scripts and the price would be way more then the price of a single drive.
Spildit ,
In India Very Commonly Drives Are Repaired And Used .Rarely They Get Bad Again .In Theory You Might Be Correct But i Have Seen And Used These Practically [ No Issue ] , Today itself i have repaired a WDC 160GB And Seagate 250GB Ready To Be Given Back To Vendor .No Need For Burn For Small Issues .
October 24th, 2015, 8:35
Amarbir wrote:Spildit ,
In India Very Commonly Drives Are Repaired And Used .Rarely They Get Bad Again .In Theory You Might Be Correct But i Have Seen And Used These Practically [ No Issue ] , Today itself i have repaired a WDC 160GB And Seagate 250GB Ready To Be Given Back To Vendor .No Need For Burn For Small Issues .
Well ....
I personally wouldn't use a drive like that at all to store any valuable data ....
Drives are very cheap and i don't think that the risk of using a cosmetic fixed drive would be worth.
Regards.
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