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I loved the first episode, it looks amazing and the characters are interesting too. I wish I had time to binge right now.
I am really enjoying it. I can’t put my finger on what it is about this type of Anime that I can’t get enough of. Some look overly cartoony to me, but when it is done in this type of Kengan Ashura, Blood of Zeus, Ragnarok, Yasuki level visuals. It’s just so captivating.
I can’t wait for Chainsaw Man, and so far Edgerunner is 100% giving me the grit, storyline, and dark tone that I clearly crave when it comes to my particular taste in Anime.
Usually I'm a subs guy, always will be. But for this one I recommend the dub. Works way better with the lingo in the Cyberpunk universe.
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It is really funny how cyberpunk game this is. Places are exactly like in game and even those text menus are there.
Yeah they done a really good job of making them connected while being it's own story.
It’s maybe the first time that I‘ve seen game UI in an anime and it works. And the locations and general city atmosphere being familiar and recognizable actually makes the show better if you‘ve played the game, imo. And yet, this isn’t just the game but animated, it‘s its own thing, with fun characters, amazing pacing, ridiculous violent action. Honestly, I‘m completely hooked.
I haven’t played the game if I’m honest, but after having watched a couple episodes of Edgerunners I’m getting the feeling this anime might be better than the actual game.
This is right up to Trigger’s alley and they definitely showed the series some incredible love.
And little things like the phone call sound being the same as the game just really add that extra touch.
I love the sounds and soundtrack matching up as well. Hearing the "walk. Walk. Walk." At the crosswalk, or some familiar tunes just makes it feel that much more alive. At the end of the episode playing one of the combat songs was another nice touch to show David is going into a different world. Or simply seeing David get his ass kicked by a guy using cyberware that we can get in the game is great.
I’m so sorry for David, the whole thing felt so surreal, so much shit thrown at him all together and it’s not like he was doing ok even before that
The thing that I found most disturbing was probably how the trauma team straight up ignored them, made me truly think “this is so fucked up” even more than a random shootout with bazooka in the middle of the road
that is literally how the trauma team works in the Cyberpunk 2077's world. Only the rich can obtain an insurance with the trauma team.
The trauma team bit was so cool.
I didn't play the game but still remember the preview they showed with the trauma team rescuing the VIP. They were so badass. You really felt the "if you're our patient, you'll live".
They definitely did the "poor kid turns to crime for money" aspect better than a certain game reboot did...Saints Row.
After this episode, I'm slightly hoping David is still alive by the end of the anime and we end up meeting him in the expansion. I want my V to help this kid in anyway possible.
I think the most disturbing thing for me was how David's mom's ashes were just dumped out like a soda from a vending machine. Just so callous and cruel.
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I never thought I'd ever hear a HEALTH song in an anime, holy shit
almost all music and sound tracks are from the original game, including the HEALTH song
Going to see them on Thursday with Perturbator. They do a great live show.
“and you’re really going to school dressed like that”
but moooom these have the best stats
Download the update and transmog already
What am I busting my ass for?
The one thing missing from this show is that, no one is dressed like an idiot.
Haha, as in the best stats in kit boosts or swag? Both would be perfect match.
Wow, can't believe studio Trigger saved anime, again.
Moving on from just saving anime to also saving video games. Sasuga Trigger.
If Trigger did anything with this anime, it's confirm for me that the lesbian orgy in Chainsawman will definitely get animated lol
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Can I watch this without knowing anything or I should see something before?
Like CDPR said, it's a standalone story in Cyberpunk 2077 world ( a prequel to the game ). If you played the game then you'll find some easter eggs or cameos, but if you didn't then it won't affect you.
It's standalone so you can watch it fine without playing the game or reading any of the source material.
There's a bit of slang in that world setting -- BD, corpo, MaxTac, etc -- which you can pick up by watching, but there's also a short glossary at the bottom of https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/edgerunners if you wanted to check what any of those meant.
Part of the same world as the overall Cyberpunk franchise (mainly the period and location of Cyberpunk 2077), but you can go in blind as a bat.
It’s fun how much it leans on the games aesthetics, but there’s no critical information there, just a lot of „hey, I know this place / UI / sound effect“. There’s some terminology like „ripperdoc“ or whatever, and organizations like Trauma Team or Arasaka, but you can probably easily figure out who and what they are from context.
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Damn, the first episode hit me...right in the feels. This was surprisingly really good. Can't wait to catch up on the rest. Liking it so far.
Seeing the mom, and seeing how hard she worked for David...I knew she was going to die. Cute anime moms who work hard to help there sons rarely live when their son is the main character lol.
Ive been running so much cyberpunk red for my tabletop RPG groups. This anime is everything I wanted it to be.
Damn, the adaptation is soo fucking good. Literally to the lingo, locations, even the fucking ringtone and the fact that calls show up in augmented reality. Stoked to binge it
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It ain’t anime but Castlevania shits on really any video game adaptation
I was worried that Trigger would make the setting childish or juvenile, but they've gone for something surprisingly mature here. This was clearly made with a Western audience in mind, as much as a Japanese one. I love how they've branched out with higher detail than usual. And the vibrant colour pallet they used in other shows really lent itself to a cyberpunk setting. I love how creative they got with portraying technology too.
A part of me thinks the backgrounds are ripped from the game with a filter applied. I don't even care, it looks great and preserves the tone of the universe so well.
Trigger has done more mature stuff before like with Darling in the Franx. It ultimately comes down to the subject matter/theme. I think it also helps that they already have a blueprint to go off of thanks to the game
This show is so sick. I can't remember the last time I saw something this stylish.
Red Line, that was the last time i saw an anime from Japan being this stylish, other than that it has always been either french animation or american psychedelic animation
Japan has been playing it safe for too long, i could maybe count Odd Taxi in here too, but other than the animals replacing people it wasn't anything too crazy
Observe a subtitle, switch to the dub, and then you get to hear that subtitle fully voiced for you.
Why translate the Japanese when we can just smush the dub script into closed captioning and call it subtitled?
Are there two English sub tracks or just one? I remember squid game having two completely different English subtitles.
It is bad. Ep 4 onwards you sometimes can't even make out what is being said because the grammar is so bad.
Yeah kinda felt the same way. They're grammatically fine, but some of them are just weird sounding. It's not bad enough that it takes away from the show though
I just can't do English dubs. The VAs talk like they have no energy and so monotone.
Binge it dub. Solid pretty much all the way through in my opinion. I'll probably binge it in sub tomorrow too see the differences. Curious to see how the slang translates into Japanese.
I'm not a native english speaker and I tried dub but... I really have a hard time understanding it. The accents are way too thick and they use way too many words I don't know. I switched to jp with subs and it's much better for me. Even if they use the same vocabulary in the dub it's easier for me to understand in text form.
And the JP VA is fantastic regardless.
Watched subbed Ep 1 and now trying the dub in Ep 2. Even with the correct English subtitle track it seemed off and I felt like I was missing something with the lingo in the universe. Thinking the dub will fix that.. but we'll see.
Anyone got a preference on the dub or sub?
Normally I'm all in on subtitles, but the characters and voice cast are making me think that the dub may fit better.
Dub has actors like Giancarlo Esposito which played Gus Frings from Breaking Bad & Better Call Saul.
The Dub is fucking phenomenal especially the Protagonists voice.
Normally I'm a hardcore sub dude, but for this one, dub is the real way to go.
Did I completely miss something during the episode? How/where does he get that military tech from?
Think her mom nicked it off the dead guy. News said that the mass shooter had missing chrome and his mom was one of the EMTs handling the guy.
It wasn't explained but I got the cues that it was from that one cyberpsycho at the start of the episode. The MC's mom is some kind lf paramedic and got it for his corps for some reason.
His mom was the EMT on the scene after the cyberpsycho was killed. If you heard the news report they mentioned that there was some missing cyberware from the dude that MAXtec put down.
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Finished the entire series. So good and amazingly produced. Highly recommend
I think this post has gained the most comments and karma for a Netflix series in this sub
English [CC] is the dub subs isn’t it ?
Yea switch to just English if you're watching with the japanese audio.
Damn, this episode is exactly what I needed while having a period where I have zero motivation for college
Just finished binging. I've been a fan of the game since day 1 and this is everything I was hoping it would be and more. I loved every minute of it.
Show looks really good. I don't know anything about the game but I kinda want to pick it up now that I've seen the first episode.
Man what a grim world they live in and the worst part is that I can see our society turning semi-like that.
The lore world of Cyberpunk is really really fucking cool and it's as much of a dystopian American capitalist society as it seems. It's a standalone prequel to events in the game so you don't need to know jack shit either, have fun.
HEADS UP! There are two different subtitle tracks on Netflix. English[CC] and English. If you're not watching the dub, make sure you're using the English subtitles and not English[CC].
I have played the game to completion and I am so impressed at how they managed to nail the game's aesthetics! Night City looks exactly like it did in the game. There were so many moments where I was like "Oh, I've been to this place in the game!". Even the HUDs are lifted straight from the game!
Gonna be honest, saw several locations and went "Hang on, haven't I been through there?"
That's one hell of an opener you can taste the disdain of a late stage capitalist society that has gone completely unchecked
Is the show graphically lewd? Haven't seen it yet but i know it has the TV MA rating.
Yes. First episode has multiple hardcore sex scenes. They are brief, but they aren’t subtle either.
It's intriguing to me how unlike your average anime this is on beat-by-beat basis. Mixed production team probably had a massive impact and you don't have to wade through the usual eccentric Japanese-isms that put off potential audiences. It's more about getting acclimating to the setting of Cyberpunk 2077 itself.
Great first episode, it builds up Davids character. The mm om though huhuhu
But anyways man what a great animation and amazing soundtrack. Specially those scenes at the moon with David and Lucy. This didn't have to go hard at sakuga animation and soundtrack with that scene dammmn so sick!
I am happy to report that we have a trigger anime without aliens. The moon sequence really got me worried there.
I see lots of complaints about the English subtitles sucking but why not just watch it in English dub?
All the slangs, names, and lingo like “Gonk” and “choom” and “nova” are all from the video game which was designed with English language in mind when they designed the storyline and all those slangs in the game.
The character is an “American” (technically it’s not America anymore since the city (Night City) is it’s it own independent thing America basically split up I’m not gonna spend time describing the details of the Cyberpunk world you can look it up)
I’m guessing the Arasaka’s company is confusing people to think it’s a Japanese setting but that’s in the game too basically Cybernetics industry is the big money maker and that Japanese company happens to be most successful at it which is why it has a big presence in Night City.
But this city in Cyberpunk is a Southern Californian MegaCity and the dude’s name is “David Martinez”
(Unrelated but That transit map almost looks exactly like the Northern California Bay Area BART map funnily enough but I digress)
So watching it in English makes sense!
In the English Dub you can even seen his Mom do the classic Spanglish thing where occasionally she would switch to Spanish (mi hijo aka “my son”) when saying something emotional
Which is very common here in California where parents of Chinese/Indian/Vietnamese/Mexican/etc etc will switch back forth between English and their native language when talking to their California born and raised kids.
If you watch it in Japanese you’re losing the entire ethos of all that right?
Like I watch Demon Slayer in Japanese Dub English Sub because it was made for Japanese.
But Cyberpunk is about a future Mega City in what formerly Southern California Los Angeles region
Where America’s rising income inequality combined with “ultra-capitalism” libertarian-style no subsidized government services mindset
Results in that crazy @$$ world you saw in the first episode (which is all I’ve seen so far) where without any money you can’t even survive because everything costs something.
So I think English Dub is the way to go for this show.
Because its style and speech patterns and demographic/ethnic references match the English dub in the original game that it is based on.
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If anyone who played cyberpunk 2077 and watched the whole show. I want to play the game in the future, if I watch the show would it spoil me the game? Or would you say it’s possible to watch the show, then play the game. Like It will not effect the games story. Or it does not Spoiler anything but you would recommend to play the game first? Idk
only watched until 3 so far but there doesn't seem to be any spoilers for the game other than general reference to the game universe setting. If you watch the anime before the game you'd probably go "hey I recognize this in the anime!" while playing the game. XD
Yes it’s fine. If anything the show is a prequel. Once you play the game you will recognize locations, tech, weapons, music, etc from the anime.
But the stories are standalone, so watching the anime first is totally fine.
No spoilers whatsoever, you don't need to know anything going in, and it's a great introduction to the world of Cyberpunk before going into the game actually.
Highly recommend this anime to anyone interested in the game. If you wind up liking Edgerunners in part for the story and setting, and even visuals to an extent, you will like all of those elements in the game too.
Watched the show all the way and played the game to 100% multiple times. They're more or less disconnected plots in the same city, but the game takes place after the show. If anything, some of the easter eggs in the game are spoilers for the show!
The more I think about it, definitely watch the show first.
If you like how the Deus Ex games play, then you'll like 2077.
Driving controls suck though.
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good pacing, story seems interesting. my only complain is that the music is all over the place during some scenes
I felt opposite about the pacing, it felt lightning fast with no room for anything to settle. I've heard good things about the whole thing but I'm mixed on ep1
FYI English subs are dogshit quality, misspellings everywhere.
Looks like the prople who wrote the subs didnt do any research about the show. Literally constantly failing to pick up on in world slang and specific terms.
I actually love the show but had to turn of the subs because they were pissing me off
10/10. Watched the entire thing. Loved every second. Can't wait for more stories in this world.
Holy shit that was even more dystopian and tragic than I expected..
I was immediately sold when I saw studio trigger was making it
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Anybody who’s seen the first episode, give us a rating ?/10 on how enjoyable it was
I’m gonna try to get into it later
pretty enjoyable. meshes in with the setting of the game pretty quickly with how gritty and violent night city was, and how people say choom and gonk a lot. mc goes through his trauma and gets set up for the plot pretty quickly. good episode to get me hyped for the series
edit: on ep5 now. i'm pretty hooked
In full scale Ep 1 7/10, which is good. Ep 2 was 8/10 for me.
Overall good start. Really like the animation and music, characters are interesting.
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Really good! I watched the first 3 episodes with sub but I found it annoying to read subs because I felt that I was losing so much of the background art so I switched to dub and it wasn't jarring at all, the VA really fit the characters. Also they got Giancarlo Esposito playing a menacing boss so yeah pretty good
Fantastic, they got all the cyberpunk expressions down perfectly and english is contextually more fitting too. I have yet to try the japanese dub but I see no reason to do so for now.
I only saw episode 1, but both subbed and dubbed.
And honestly? I actually prefer the English dub here.
At one point the mom says "itterashai" which is somthing like "please go and come back" after someone leaves and says "itekimasu", but netflix subs made it out to be "I love you"....why?
I don't know how to describe it perfectly but something feels really off with the way the first episode is composed to me.
The animation doesn't really look like it keeps up with the art, music and dialogue gets played 24/7 over literally everything, and overall framing is just off.
I think the show gets a few things right like for example the introduction to the school, the car-ride home with mom, but even those scenes lack the hard-hitting frames + sequences that could really convey the mood there. One example I could think of was that there was a lack of a frame in the car ride that showed both the mom and David which I felt like would've made that scene 100x better than just flipping between their faces.
Overall it just feels like to me they mushed together as much stuff as they could and the product ends up a bit oversaturated. Comparing this show to arcane, blade runner or even ghost in the shell, I feel like there's a lack of respect paid to the world which is really crucial to the cyberpunk genre. The opening scene encapsulates this to the max I feel; the action sequence is kind of boring to be honest and David's 'waking up' scene lacks impact. The scene cut doesn't feel like it respects how jarring that transition must be for both the audience and even David.
Overall I'll prob give it a few more episodes but mostly disappointed with how this came out.
Agreed. The script is like it’s written by a 16 year old.
Also where did his mech spine come from? Was it in his mum’s bag? Why did she have it?
I don’t know if I’m in the minority of this (it seems like I am based on some of the reactions) but after just finishing the first episode I honestly thought it wasn’t very good. I’m trying to see what the appeal is that people are seeing, I could understand if they thought it was alright but amazing??? It just seems very jumpy and all over the place, the characters seem uninteresting, they have entire scenes of dialogue with a single repeated frame…just nothing about this was good to me.
Damn, the subs are way off at times. I usually don’t mind taking liberties and not translating everything 100% literally to make it more natural and help bring out the characters but this is a bit much imo.
The show itself seems pretty fun though, Trigger was a great choice for this project with their stylish, chaotic energy.
Just saying anyone who hasn't played the game's gonna miss a lot of the reference.
Don't even know what game it's from, but I thought the first episode was very enjoyable.
The game was a trash fire that got wrecked in reviews. I don't think alot of people will simp on it cause of the game. This anime is like a blast from the past. It reminds me of the OVAs from back in the 80s filled with sex nudity and violence, only with a modern coat of paint, killer sound track and even a decent story. Honestly this show has no right to be as good as it is
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Cyberpunk is rooted in the 80s, hipster cuts make sense because in the world Mike Pondsmith had created many years ago one of the rules of the Cyberpunk 2020 TRPG was "Style over Substance"
this show looks sick and this episode is heartbreaking but goddamn its hard watching it in japanese when they're trying too hard to localize the subtitles...
Ah shit once I'm done at the doctor's imma head home to watch it!
So, this is what Yurei Deco animated by Trigger would have been like?
This has been really good so far. That anxiety breakdown David has leading up to the ripper doc. I'm choosing to listen in English first then I'll rewatch in the Japanese dub after I finish the episodes. Music is really good too. Wasn't expecting so much to be used but I love it.
I liked it, but I couldn't read half the subtitles because they were white font on a bright white background...gonna try the sub for episode 2 lol.
Just binged whole the thing, wasn’t expecting anything…turned out to be pretty good!
Won't lie, was expecting to see some spongebob jokes/memes regarding this. Glad it didn't turn to that on this sub, but I would admit, it would be funny lol.
Within the first 3 minutes some cyber police gets straight bifurcated. Animation looks cool. I'm interested, and pretty cool they are all out aleady. I like it.
Since the subtitles are obviously terrible, does anyone know if another translation group other than Netflix will be working on doing the subtitles for this show anytime soon? Or is what we have the best we're gonna get?
I remember there was a similar issue with BNA back when that came out and that eventually did get good subs from what I remember
So to everyone who's watched, which is better: subs, or closed caption? I know squid game had an issue with that.
so this is a true Cyberpunk 2077 then, as just like the game, it have a weird HDR implementation
HDR
real HDR with very bright brights
colors seems to be SDR tonemapped to HDR
The subtitles are terrible. So many instances of incorrect interpretations. Gonk being guts instead, or something as simple as ride instead of right. I don't understand how there can be this many problems. I kinda get it when the subs are way off because the script changed in production but this just seems lazy.
Did anyone else find the subtitles almost impossible to read? The letters were a light grey instead of white and against certain colors they basically disappeared.
I started another episode with subs and they were fine.
“Would you like to know more?” Nice little Starship Troopers reference in the second scene with the surgeon.
This makes me want to play the game.. I wonder if they have fixed the bug
It's in a very playable state these days compared to the launch. There are still visual bugs and sometimes funny shit happens, like I had a random pedestrian spawn in the road floating once, but nothing that ruins the experience.
If you've played Skyrim or Fallout, or just big first-person Open World RPGs like this in general, that's the kind of bugginess to expect really. Cyberpunk has its flaws no doubt, but it's a great game and one of the best big RPGs in recent years, much better than Fallout 4 and The Outer Worlds, imo.
I absolutely loved it, even all the references are on point, the only thing that seems kinda weird to me is how D isn‘t very shook by his mom‘s death, but it‘s still a 10/10 for me, heck, we‘re talking about Cyberpunk here
the only thing that seems kinda weird to me is how D isn‘t very shook by his mom‘s death
Trust me, David is shook, but he's numb rather than debilitated.
Nah, first 4 minutes and I’m seeing mfs getting blown in half, faces ripped off, girls fucking, etc. trigger got a masterclass on their hands. I’m so mad they killed Gloria off tho. Her whole death and cremation was so sad. I get the point that it’s to symbolise how insignificant and little she and David and others like them are supposed to be in this world, but still. Hope David tears this whole system down.
They showed a PG-13 version of this first episode with the English dub at Otakon. I have no knowledge of the video game, but, for the genre I felt they nailed it. Excited to actually see where this goes. Ended up watching this dubbed, hopefully that won't be a mistake.
I could really feel the walls closing around David at the end of this episode. This one is truly a heartbreaker. It puts in the work to make his decision to drop out of school completely believable, and boy does it pay off.
Trigger is really shining through here, I hope this quality keeps up ( I expect it to).
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