"Who here wanna do throomth with me???"
An alternative may be Naltrexone, its not addictive like Methadone/Suboxone/Buprophine (probably spelled wrong lol). If I start to ha e cravings again, I'm going to give that a shot this time too. I want to be done with crutches... so bad.
I may be wrong, but doesn't Naltrexone just block the opioid receptors?
I was prescribed it for alcohol cravings at one time. Taking one sent me into a very disturbing precipitated state of kratom withdrawal - Nothing was addictive about that!
The other's are addictive because they are partial agonists.
Same here, I've been using kratom since 2014 and I can tell which strain is which after consuming it without even looking at the bag as I've tested this before - from my top 4 vendors that is. So, no, I don't believe that all vendors use strains as a BS marketing ploy. Do they maybe twist the science on it some to make it sound more marketable? Possibly. But no one will ever convince me that all vendors throw the same kratom in every bag and just make up labels. I know you didn't say that, but a lot people do after getting some garbage from a garbage vendor.
Same, greens generally give a balanced sense of energy and well being.
I've had white strains that can feel like decent quality cocaine if the timing is right!
Definetly have changed my opinion on day game, especially at the gym. This post deserves gold.
In the words of Mark Manson "What if it was a gift?"
Maybe in another life, this prevented you from:
-getting busted,
-OD'ing on wrongly labelled/unstably aged chems.
-Boofing "Penis Envy" mushrooms on a dare that goes viral.
I'm just trying to put a positive on a negative here, but seriously:
" Always keep your drugs in a safe and somewhere no one can find it. Never know who might steal them or throw them away. " -Imagine if a 12 year old, curious kid got ahold of them. You would be moving out of your moms basement at least.
Yea, my folks decided to "do me a favor" and clean my basement at my old house.
They found needles, it freaked my mom out so bad, she had to go to the outpatients after learning her son was a junky.
I had never touched the stuff, the needles were for Testosterone replacement therapy and B12 shots.
I am so sorry this happened to you but at least it wasn't the cops who found it.
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"Don't touch A-PHP if you have an addictive personality... You vape it and it's all over!"
Come on guys, as an addict, I hear this and it's like being a kid again being told "whatever you do, do not mash this big red button"... I'm gonna fucking do it!
Knowing this about me, I ordered the minimum of 1 gram which I got yesterday and what I don't finish by tonight is getting dumped.
A concern of mine I can't seem to find anywhere regarding vaping. When melting down, keeping the flame a good distance (foil and pookie) I can just melt the hcl into a very light yellow oil. I like to take my time and not burn it. I usually vape until a light maple syrup color but feel like I may be wasting a lot.
How dark does your A PHP go before you switch it up?
Haha you're finishing the gram by tonight, however long that ends up being. Prove me wrong
I'm getting nausea and blurred vision from smoking so much!
Blood pressure 134/95 (about 10 higher than normal on both)
So how is it?
It's not my thing and figured it wouldn't. I just had to add another check in the box..
Well, I might be lying a little if I wasn't really looking forward to it.
+Short duration (vaped) can have one feeling 'normal' again in an hour,,Good luck going that long without a hit.
+Cheap
+tastes good (for chinese chemicals)
+VERY RECREATIONAL for twirling around a pipe or chasing on foil
-Not much of a rush for short duration but once you take that hit, it's all you wanna do. Less compulsive than MDPHP for me, but not near as good.
-EERIE PARANOIA
-Total loss of appetite, way worse than anything else.
-Total scatterbrain
-No Perv for me
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Dose: 200mg insufflated (100mg x2 1h apart)
First off, this one is slow to kick. At this dose, I have difficulty recalling any time specific events but be warned: This dose had 18h legs with 12 hours of those hallucinating. The Psychedelic factor is off the wall. Vibrant colors, red text in scroll print on my ceiling, mind movies.
Recommended Listen: Glass Animals - Heat Waves.. Melting into the music is the only way I can describe it. An epiphany like connection had me convinced this song was written specifically for this magical fairy dust.
Hands down my favorite disso for a pleasurable experience. Not quite as insightful as O-Pce or 3-Meo-Pce, I don't feel like I've learned much but way smoother to hole on and less mania.
Overall 5/5, I've no experience with MXE but can't imagine anything more magical, just WOW!
Happy cake day!!
Thank you!
I tend to IM most dissos you can hole with like DCK, 2f-k, DMXE and etc. Just like with straight up K I think you'll get the most out of the experience in nearly every way. I only got to sample a g of DMXE so far and I loved it, got some more on the way. Just like with MXE it's great for insuff or oral for the lower dose more functional type of experience and IM for when you want to go deep.
Anyhow, the point of the ramble is to warn anyone planning on IMing large doses to be aware that it can and will induce blackout at a certain range. For me it was (fortunately) pretty minor and brief, nothing bad happened I just lost a few minutes but didn't try to move around much at least. This happened after a 60mg IM shot at the end of a long day of disso bliss so my tolerance was up there but it definitely had accumulated more than I expected or felt like it had.
I probably went through 120mg or so primarily insuff through the day, for reference, and had a great holey experience the night before with 40mg insuff to start off and a 50mg IM to hit the hole, with a 50mg redose an hour or so later.
So, I'd say 50mg+ is where you should start being cautious for a single IM dose if your tolerance is low to medium, maybe 70-80mg if you've been hitting it hard. I'd say I was in the medium range.
All in all just from the first gram, I'd say DMXE is easily my favorite disso out of what's available, and definitely the closest to the OG MXE but definitely not the same. It has a different character, hard to explain of course... MXE was like being in a magic spaceship cruising through the dissoverse, DMXE was maybe more of a.... magical schoolbus? The general vibe is more care free and maybe a touch less mystical, if that makes sense.
Oh yeah, and it's great for becoming one with movies/games/etc.
Very nice report!
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Hey man, I just wanted to say I'm really glad that you're feeling better. I'm also dipping back into some 'helpful' compounds after many years (relatively) sober. Trip reports incoming over the next few weeks, I'm hoping to make some real chemical-assisted progress soon. The setbacks in my life over the last few years have been overwhelming, and issues stemming from the Covid lockdowns have really just sealed the deal. I've stuck around mostly because I know how devastating it would be for my parents, but even then being a former downer connoisseur I know how easy it can be to stage an accident in the spur of the moment and just make it all end.
Sometimes we really need that reminder that the sadness and pain that we feel is little more than an imbalance of chemicals in our brains. There's a whole lot more to the psychedelic experience, but that sudden 'oh, nevermind' feeling after a great trip bouncing you back from rock-bottom depression is amazing. So I think that a light, friendly tryptamine such as 4-HO-MET was a perfect choice for the occasion, maybe this was your subconscious choice! It's refreshing to read a report like this where these magical compounds are actually being used as the medicine that they rightfully are. Never forget that we're pioneers, techno-shamans in training doing groundbreaking psycho-spiritual repair. You should be proud that you've mastered this art ;)
Much love from an internet stranger, stay strong friend :)
Sounds like me, would love to hear more of your experiences with helpful compounds. Recommend you check out the "microdosing" sub reddit :)
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But knocked some sense into ya? Mine go something like this.
Etizolam - "Just so I can sleep after midnight shift"..."Just to calm my nerves before this presentation"..."Just had a hard day, gonna hit up r/researchchemicals & chill""Etzlom is bunnk, maybb Flualpezazolalam"
3-fpm - "Good n functional, put some on foil to help with my ADHDefghijkjlmnop"
Hexen - "need 3-fpm for comedown from this shit."
EDIT - One time, terribly fucked on O-Pce. Got scared that more O-Pce would find its way into my nose somehow. In order to keep the stash safe from myself, I took the baggie/plate to another room.
After putting the plate in it's safe space, I noticed my moustache on the plate next to my bag.Didn't feel right, so I snorted it back on to my face............Oh fuck
"Limited." hahahaha. Ever try O-PCE?
Buddy, that stuff is nuts.
Watching a Tucker newscast on BLM/Antifa riots looked like a pre-mission video in a futuristic war game where you learn who your enemies will be.
Jerking off was like beating off a strangers dick against my will. I concluded that pornography was some sort of voodoo vendatta which, when turned on, I became a puppet who was no longer in control of my body when that strange creature popped out of a wormhole to possess me.
Much love for the O-Peace but wouldn't mind something a little more functional on the side.
Jajajaja, I've had similar thoughts about porn on Acid. Like the people running the websites gain energy from us watching it and jerking off in some sort of evil ritualistic way. It is very strange when you actually think hard about it.
Remember hearing how old folks preach about porn being the devil?
They aren't wrong, the devil is very subtle in his actions. Porn doesn't kill people, it prevents them from being born. As technology advances, so does porn. It's already happening in Japan, men are choosing sex robots over having a real girlfriend.
Eventually those robots will be hotter than any woman alive, will have no defects, no std's and whatever fetish floats your boat, they will do, no questions asked.
Outside of the bedroom, they don't bitch, programmed to listen and like everything you like. Put her in the closet when you want some quiet time.
No pregnancies, no screaming kids to worry about means mass world de-population no matter how much real woman up their game.
One could argue that having a girlfriend equates to a better life via a double income but robots have already taken over jobs and industry by then.
The more advanced we become, the closer we get to building what ends us.
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I feel I can cross O-Pce off the list. Couple mg difference decides whether it kicks like a small child or a mule but it's what I have and maybe it can be done.
I have experience with 3 Ho and it seems a little more chill and clearheaded to be up for that task as long as dose is dialed in.
0 experience with the Meo though, could it work as such?
Edit - To clarify, looking to lower inhibitions while maintaining clarity and have a little get up and go.
For me a small dose 3.5mg of 3-meo-PCE was amazing for work. I measured it by volumetric measuring, very carefully, and took it orally, takes a long time to kick in, but I found these low dosages extremely clear, no fog or confusion at all! Very stimulating, you get a very clear vision and mind, it speeds up your thinking, but go a little bit above it, and the effect is gone and you get slower.
The answer I was looking for. I'll grab some 3 meo pce and give it a go. Thanks for the heads up.
o-PCE negatively effects your memory, but in my opinion it's the most clearheaded of the lot. I've had to do some thought intensive computer work while on it, and I was really surprised that I could think clearly, which is not that normal for a disso.
I like the oral ROA a lot more than vaped.
Thanks for the reply, I've been trying vaped for the functional ROA which seems to work, but obviously easy to get carried away.
I think I will try 3mg oral and go from there, thoughts?
Thats sounds a bit like salvia, except with salvia there’s no “I” at all, just a big joke, a secret that you can’t be permitted to know since it ends reality . Like realising you’re just watching a movie and you can just walk out of the theatre. I really struggled with this stuff when i was into salvia. I’m not religious, but I can only think of it like the Buddha supposedly did , now you’ve seen the machinery of the universe you can leave this world behind as a bad joke or a fake, or you can willingly go back into the illusion and help the beings trapped there , fix things , be creative and show kindness.. i think they call it Tikkun in Kabbalistic thought, humans were an accident, made by God unconsciously to fix the mistakes he/she made in creation. We’re caretakers.
Funny you mention that. While on a heavy dose of O-Pce, it reminded me of being deep in with salvia. Kinda makes me think of salvia as more of a disso than a psychedelic now.
Why does it suck ass, in your view?
Time makes that morning alarm clock buzz, the holidays finish, the work day start, our best years pass only for our bodies age and bring us that much closer to death.
It's what's making whatever great moment one might be in while dissociated come to an end.
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Be careful with O-Pce as it seems to have a steep dosage curve where a few mg can make the difference between mild effects and balls deep.
I started with 5mg bumps but luckily waited about 45 minutes between redoses. It takes a while to hit hard but once at 15mg it got very confusing.
Regardless of experience, a sitter would be a real good idea.
It's like mental viagra that kills refractory period.
Extremely potent aphrodisiac that could be dangerous in the wrong hands.
I've got a fair bit of experience(s) with it, be happy to answer questions.
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r/phenibut is a good sub to check out.
Well it' been over an hour and a half and 60mg oral of that orange crystal mdphp is a bit energetic at most, some vasoconstriction, a small elevation in heart rate, a bit of theet grinding but that's it... No euphoria, nor warmth or sweating, I'm home with the wife and kids and nobody can tell I'm on a stim, even I have to look for changes in mood or body... I'll be taking a few more days off and get back to it...
Any luck? I feel I just wasted my money on this but only tried 12-20mg doses orally and vaped.
Curious about this as I recently acquired some of the orange caviar looking MDPHP.
Experimented with 12mg & 20mg oral as well as 10mg vaped.
Runs well on foil but the effects seem off, certainly no "perv" effect.
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Oh I remember reading that! I didn’t catch your update though. Thanks!
I think I may end up pairing with 4-ho-MiPT. Perhaps 4mg volumetric PCE with 20-25mg MiPT.
You could always try vaping the O-Pce to experience the effects without the ridiculously long half life.
I guess at 4mg though, you would have nothing to worry about but do you have experience with MiPT? I find for myself, anything over 12 mg carries a significant body load.
I have no experience with MiPT but I plan on taking Magnesium 300mg, l-cytrulline 1500mg, and Turmeric 500mg to help with the bodyload.
What’s the body load like? Unbearable? I just know it exists but recommendations of that combo say it almost completely clears it.
That's quite possible but for a first timer, I would definetly go much lower on the dose of MiPT, TripSit recommendations for reference: http://drugs.tripsit.me/mipt
Also be wary of Turmeric's MAOI effects which I've noticed caused uncomfortable sensations in my scalp before so I did a quick search and found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/42z997/turmeric_curcumin_psychedelics/?utm_source=BD&utm_medium=Search&utm_name=Bing&utm_content=PSR1
Hope that helps.
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I wouldn't pick either of the 2 for a stim comedown but if I had to guess, I would say 3-ho-pce since it is the more relaxing of the 2 with a mild opioid type feel.
Tapering from benzos though should mean staying the fuck away from stims, I would probably give into the kratom since its what you know and the safest bet.
Yeah, I planned to dose a small amount of 3fpm to have a productive day.. I vaped it and it ended up a binge fml.
Ah well, got myself into this, gonna have to get myself out.
Thanks for the response.
Can totally relate with 3-fpm. Mad respect for having the discipline to not give into your benzo taper plan.
In the O hole turn on my pc to boot up Leisure suit Larry video game.Hot chick approaches me, you wanna bang? Take my Xbox controller start hitting the a & b
buttons to take off her clothes then mash the gamepad x,y,x,y,xy as fast as I can then i see a dick on the screen and my hand is the x.y button mash faster....take that I win!
Woah, that was fucked, wrong place
**EDIT** Translation: O-Pce is an absolutely stellar disso! It has the insight of 4-aco-dmt, the beauty of LSD and, at times I recalled feeling the euphoria of smoking good heroin back in the day.
Given this, it is still quite manic. I feel a bit embarrassed to translate my "trip report", but I just felt the need to tell someone what just happened. Maybe it was the all out weirdness or perhaps I felt a little traumatized. Such heavy dissociation/anesthesia made me feel like I had just whacked off a stranger against my will.
Regardless, O-Pce is a hell of a ride, hands down my favorite disso (vs. Ketamine, 3-HO-Pce, Tilletamine, DXM, Diphenedine) and it deserves a much more thought out review involving my various experiences.
Standby for that and keep the doses of this one very low. ^ was 15 mg.
I got some 3-ho-pce coming in a few days, I hope I enjoy it more than I did O-PCE.
This post was fucking hilarious, btw.
3-ho-pce is much less hole-y, more chill variant of O-Pce with a mild opioid feel to it. A very nice disso which I may experiment with for low dose social purposes and depression.
Not nearly as introspective but O-Pce worries me when I have to remind myself why it's not okay to just knock everything over in my path or just simply fall down the stairs to get where I'm going because it would be easier.
Interested to hear your thoughts on it (3-HO) as I may order more to experiment.
I just got on the vape train, it’s the best roa despite being a bit wasteful. Changes it entirely for me. Very stimmy. I can’t go back to snorting it lol OPCE is my favorite drug/disso atm. Mixing it with lsd or AL LAD is just out of this world.
Fuckin hell, vaping's pretty good.
Grams not gonna last as long as I thought.
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