[Censorship]/[Ethics] Prostasia Foundation: "Internet reporting hotlines are censoring art"
Always how they work. "We're not trying to censor anyone, we just want you to voluntarily change your art to meet our demands! ...But if you refuse, we'll go over your head to some authority figure that can force you to take it down and deplatform you!"
This is technically a repost due to the original thread being Rule 5'ed. Nonetheless, the emphasis here is on both the use of Internet reporting hotlines to censor art and the attempts to frame anything deemed NSFW as obscenity or child porn. Relevant sections:
This week United States Attorney-General William Barr cited the need to address child exploitation as one of the factors motivating a mooted review of a law called CDA 230, which provides that Internet companies aren’t responsible for what their users say or do online. The are many dimensions to the problem of child exploitation, ranging from inappropriate comments on Instagram photos to child grooming on Fortnite... but the one that captures most public attention is the problem of illegal sexual images of minors being shared online.
CDA 230 has nothing to do with that problem, however. These images were never protected by CDA 230 to begin with—platforms were always obliged to take these down as soon as they were discovered. And platforms already have a robust way to remove them immediately and without human intervention—at least if the images have already been encountered and flagged as illegal at least once before. This is done using hash-scanning software such as Microsoft’s PhotoDNA, in conjunction with lists of image hashes contributed by the platforms themselves, or collected by third-party Internet hotlines for reporting child abuse images. When a user attempts to upload content to a platform that utilizes these image hash lists as part of its moderation process, the content will be blocked and the user will be reported to law enforcement authorities. In the United States, this is mandated by law.
So far, so good. But the big problem with this arrangement is: who makes sure that these hash lists only contain illegal content? Since the images are illegal to view, the platforms aren’t allowed to share them after reporting them. This means that there is a risk that lawful content, or content such as cartoons that aren’t images of real child abuse, will also end up on these lists, and that it will be impossible to get it off again....
...Since April 2010 the United Kingdom’s Internet Hotline, the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) has been accepting reports of “non-photographic child sexual abuse images” such as cartoons, provided that these are hosted in the United Kingdom. Unlike the American and Canadian hotlines, it does not forward these reports to foreign authorities. The IWF has also confirmed to us that they do not currently add them to the image hash lists that it offers to its member Internet platforms.
In November 2019, the UK-based host of an art blog was arrested for hosting child pornography due to the blog’s inclusion of two panels of comic strips in a long and academic discussion about the line between legitimate art and child pornography. The panels in question were from a Ignatz Award-nominated semi-autobiographical comic Daddy’s Girl by Debbie Dreschler, and they depict her own experiences of incestual child sexual abuse. We have been unable to confirm whether the IWF was involved in the arrest of the man, who writes:
Do I have the right to tell Debbie that her work is now child pornography? It probably took her 20 years to drum up the courage to put her feelings down on paper and now 20 years on with the book still freely available some IT technician has decided that he does not like a picture from that book.
Cartoons that depict minors sexually can be offensive, and in some countries such as Costa Rica and the United Kingdom they are also illegal. Yet Prostasia Foundation’s position is that Internet hotlines ought not to be engaged in the business of censoring such art or recommending cases for the police to prosecute. As the censorship of Debbie Dreschler’s comic illustrates, there is no clear line between art that graphically depicts child sexual abuse, and “obscene” pornography.
Emphasis mine
So in the "debbie" incident they are actually using the victim telling her story as an incident of CP? fuck talk about victim blaming.
If the host is the same Graham Ovendon, the artist was jailed in the 2000s for having made nude photographs of underage girls in the 1970s.
Oh fuck my life, here we go again with this bullshit.
So USA Today, of all things, posted an article (under their "video games" section, I shit you not) about the new Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel book. And while I've seen pieces that were more cringe-inducing, this is still an absolute shit-take on a game where you're supposed to roll dice with your friends while pretending to be fantasy heroes. But you'd have a hard time figuring that out after reading this ass-stain of an article.
Just look at how they're talking about a fucking D&D book:
Erin Roberts knows the lived experiences we bring to the table shape the stories we tell.
Fuck off, Erin. I'm sick to death of this whole "your lived experiences subconsciously shape everything you do, meaning that you're a helpless puppet who cannot help but recreate the systemic biases of your society in everything you create" bullshit. That's the premise that the moral authoritarians have used to inject themselves into absolutely every facet of our hobbies and tear them to the fucking ground, and I'm seriously questioning the validity of it.
If I feel like playing a fucking lizardman aboard a sailing ship that flies between worlds, I feel pretty fucking confident that my background and personal upbringing have fuck all to do with that!
Roberts is a Black woman who loves the South. That passion comes through in the stories she wants to tell as an author – even when that story is told in a fantasy game based entirely on a group of people fighting monsters in a world of make-believe.
Then Roberts doesn't sound like she has very much imagination at all, does she? Because most people who play D&D that I know enjoy doing things that are radically different when it's time for a new campaign, rather than bringing the same idea into the game over and over again. At what point do you decide that you're tired of doing the same thing endlessly, and say that you want something different?
Roberts is one of 16 writers who had a chance to tell a new story in the latest Dungeons & Dragons sourcebook, "Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel." All are people of color, a first for D&D after nearly 50 years. The book hit shelves Tuesday and carries adventurers through an anthology of tales shaped by the lived experiences of the most diverse group of writers ever assembled by Wizards of the Coast.
To give credit where it's due, at least USA Today has broken away from the old "the authors are all black and brown people" that other outlets were spouting back when this book was first announced. Maybe they got the message that it's not true. Though I suppose now they'll need to defend the idea that people of, say, Korean or Japanese heritage are "people of color."
“The cultures we're raised in, the types of stories we're told growing up, are different from group to group, from culture to culture,” she said, adding representation “makes deeper and broader the types of stories we're telling.”
Fucking bullshit. This fetish for "representation" is limiting, because it starkly defines what you're not allowed to do, which is anything that the moral entrepreneurs classify as offensive to their sensibilities. You need look no further than the Galbrush Paradox to see how this ends up strangling creativity rather than helping it.
Bringing those lived experiences to the table is exactly what co-project lead and writer Ajit A. George wanted. An Indian American, he knows all too well the struggle of trying to see yourself in a fantasy world written by someone who doesn’t have diversity front-of-mind.
I'm going to skip past "why the fuck would you want to see yourself in a fantasy world?" and instead move right along to "if you can't see yourself represented by heroic virtues such as honor, courage, loyalty, determination, compassion, and numerous other traits that are universally lauded among human cultures, then perhaps games of heroic fantasy aren't for you."
That’s why he pitched the idea in the first place. He was frustrated after he attended a convention 10 years ago and struggled to find Black and Brown people in attendance.
Real quality reporting here; forget picking out the specific convention, they don't even seem to have determined what type of convention it was. Was this a comic convention, an anime convention, a fucking My Little Pony convention, what? Because nothing in this paragraph tells me that D&D and other tabletop RPGs have anything to do with this.
And that's without getting into the fact that conventions are perhaps the single most expensive part of an expensive hobby, which highlights that this is an economic issue rather than a social one! I get it; the financial reforms that created America's middle class were mostly passed as reactions to the Great Depression and two World Wars, all of which happened during the era of Jim Crow, so it's no surprise that African-Americans were largely left out, but that's not the fault of D&D or any other aspect of recreational media!
“It made me reflect about how often I saw myself or people who looked anything like me in D&D products or in just larger geekdom,” he said.
I can't help but note the irony in the fact that, right below this quote, there's a picture in which the foreground is taken up by a kobold with red scales.
After working on other projects, George met with D&D senior designer F. Wesley Schneider. George, also the director of operations of the nonprofit Shanti Bhavan Children’s Project, was given the chance to work on another D&D product, he said, and during that time, he thought about what would eventually become “Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel.”
You know, I was mostly being snarky about that "great reporting" comment before, but this really is shit reporting. Notice how they say "another D&D product" here without first laying down that Ajit George worked on a previous D&D product? Newflash, asshole: Ajit George previously worked on the absolute fucking trainwreck that was 5E Ravenloft, a job which he landed despite having no TTRPG experience before (that I've been able to tell) except for babbling about diversity as some awards presentation a few years back.
“As I’m writing, I’m thinking, ‘Man, wouldn’t it be awesome to have an entire D&D book written by people of color talking about our own cultures, our own people, our own histories, our own myths, the foods we eat, the arts we appreciated – what would that look like?” George said.
The foods you eat and the arts you like...because that's what you think of when you sit down to play Dungeons & Dragons? Really? Most groups I know don't even bother to write down that they've got iron rations, and the GMs will only barely think to include various objets d'art among the treasure they find. But yeah, why sit back and blow off some steam with your buddies when you could instead hold an impromptu anthropology class?
The idea was quickly green-lit by Jeremy Crawford, game architect of Dungeons & Dragons. Schneider, who became the project’s other co-lead, said he wanted diversity at the forefront of the book.
Which showcases the entire problem in a nutshell: he wanted diversity at the forefront of the book, and not adventure, game mechanics, lore, playability, or anything that was otherwise entertaining.
“Even when playing with fantasy, so often writers are drawing upon what their experiences are,” Schneider said. “Tolkien pastiche is practically a genre. The high-fantasy knights against ‘spooky evil thing,’ and there’s probably a MacGuffin to be destroyed. We’ve seen it thousands of times.”
Yeah, because it fucking works, Schneider you absolute tool. The entire idea that's being presented in this paragraph, that an established idea is inherently less worthwhile than an original one (even if you grant the premise that this diversity shit is about originality, which it isn't) is inherently flawed, because execution matters more than innovation. We don't judge these things by "how new is the idea?" We judge them by "how fun are they?"
It goes on from there, but quite frankly this is where I ran out of patience, because it was clear that there's absolutely nothing of value here. It's not until near the end of the article that it even begins talking about how this is actually supposed to be used in play, and even then it's entirely predicated on the idea that this is all going to help marginalized people in real life, contributing to a more just, more inclusive, more diverse society, which is so fucking stupid it makes me want to scream. This is how you help make a better world? By writing shit for fucking D&D?
This is why SJWs are complete and utter lunatics. Because they insist on bringing the culture war into everything, mostly by saying that it was already there, while the rest of us just want to play our fucking games and relax for a little while.
Title. Considering the recent post (that has been deleted RIP) I wonder why western (usually Americans sorry) sjw fans flood the Shounen operas, considering they cater to the thing they hate more (straight young guys) and most of the representation they want is either headcanon, culturally different or barely present.
And yet from Boku no Hero Academia, to One Piece, to Bleach, there's always these Twitter-like users who sperg and take over any fanspace. Why is it that works with target demographics (and related genres) much more closer to their tastes have much less sjws?
Even Yaoi is mainly fujoshi and personally knowing Japanese fujos and somewhat knowing their spaces they are in no way as toxic and idiotic as western Twitterati
With the upcoming Disney series of She-Hulk and Black panther Wakanda Forever to end off Marvel Studio's Phase 4, I can confidently almost nothing in Phase 4 excited me.
Wandavision: Only the last 2 ep were interesting
Falcon show: Action was ok but the show "Needs to do better"
Loki: really interesting plot but the story was just too draggy.
Hawkeye: Boring show
Shang chi: ok meh.
Eternals: Trash
Spider Man No way home: good I guess (nostalgia)
Moon Knight: Boring dropped after ep 3
Dr strange MOM: dumb movie that didn't make sense.
Ms Marvel: Super Boring dropped after ep 2
Thor Love and Thunder: The most boring show that tries too hard to make me laugh every minute.
And now looking at the movie and shows line up for Phase 5, there is absolutely almost nothing I am interested in or excited for.
Like what even is the Avengers ? Hulk ? Thor ? are they still in it ?
Is the new team going to be Falcon ? Shang chi ? Moon knight ? Ms marvel ? Ant Man ? Hawkeye ?
That line up is just soo lame and underwhelming.
Like I thought if we just got a few movies from the REAL heroes like Dr strange, Spider man and Thor it would be ok but 2 out of those movies were just "Female power, look at me I am a GIRL saving the heroes and defeating the villain.
And with the upcoming Black panther 2, She Hulk, Ant Man and the Wasp, Loki season 2, The marvels, Iron heart and Agatha, you can just tell its going to be another look Females can be Heroes too #diversity #Metoo
OF COURSE there is nothing wrong with that but Marvel needs to "DO BETTER".
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2022/jul/22/alternate-street-fighter-6-costumes/
New Street Fighter 6 news coming from San Diego Comic Con today as new costumes were revealed for the first five roster members: Ryu, Chun-Li, Jamie, Guile, and Luke.
Regarding Chun-Li's classic costume, it is what you would expect but what is positively surprising is that her "panties" very narrow, as you can see in the screenshot of her standing alone in the neutral pose. Not to mention the slit of her dress being very high up. What this likely means is loads of nice views of Chun-Li buttocks. I expected Capcom to use some kind of short speedos or something to cover that area up or make the dress slit lower. Of course, this can all change however for the final version of the costume.
But do remember that she has always worn tights/pantyhose with this costume that acts as a cover up. The real litmus test is whether Capcom will allow such narrow/scant underwear for costumes that has her lower half bare (such as her Battle Costume in Street Fighter 5).
And of course, we don't know yet if these classic costumes will be immediately available or paid DLC.
There are some complaints about Chun Li's classic costume from ResetEra, some of them saying, to paraphrase: "this was Capcom's chance to tone the ridiculous costume down for a new era, but they still had to pander to the incels and male gaze". But yet, they love Jamie because he is always showing his chest and abs, thus more double standards from these f**kwits as usual.
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