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Hello. Love from Japan for a great article! Now, we may manage to get Kodak No. 4 and CD-3 internationally. (If you know of a place that ships internationally, please let me know.) However, getting the 7N sulfuric acid needed for the stopping fluid is difficult. (In Japan, a heinous incident using sulfuric acid just happened on a train, scary!) Dilute sulfuric acid 10% chemicals 2N is easily available. Which is more effective stopping solution, using white vinegar or dilute sulfuric acid? I am not very good at chemistry, but I think 2N dilute sulfuric acid would work better. Best regards, from Fuhito.

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So at the end, is it that much cheaper to do it yourself? I live in Europe and I'm not even sure if I can find some of the chemicals and if I do they come in bulk + shipping costs.
You gave a really detailed explanation. Will try to get hold of the chemicals! :)

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At the time I wrote this ECN-2 processing was just becoming the hip thing and at the time there was one lab in the USA that would process short lengths of 35mm ECN-2 film, and there were no kits available other than the very expensive QWD one. Seems like just a month or two after publishing this, more labs started to accept short lengths (sometimes only for cross processing) and more economical kits started to happen.

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I`ve tried to use benzotriazole as an antifoggant and got good results. Color and density of the film base changes depending on the quantity. I add 0,06 gram of dry benzotriazole per liter of developer.

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I'm going to try your recipe. Would you say you've ironed out all the kinks more or less or is this still very experimental? I've been mixing my own B&W developers for a while but mixing up some ECN-2 sounds like a challenge. That and the ECN-2 kits are expensive.
Thanks for the recipe!

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The formulas are basically just Kodak official formulas. However the prewash and remjet removal step I've figured out a better method for but have only done it once, so haven't documented it really since I consider that experimental. Either way, I use the alt prewash with bicarb and carb, then after the stop step, hang up the film, and using plain coffee filters wipe only the back side of the film. Do this several times until no more black remjet comes off. Then put it back into the tank and bleach fix etc.

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Thanks for the tips on remjet removal. I'll definetly try the coffee filters!

I've got a few questions on the replacement of sulfuric acid. I can't source it (it's only available to professional buyers here - I'm in France) other then as "battery acid" which I'm guessing comes with additives. I saw your posts on Reddit and what PE wrote back in the day on Photrio regarding the need to quickly lower the pH. Would acetic acid or nitric acide be an acceptable replacement in your opinion? Also, can't seem to locate Kodak anti-calcium #4 anywhere in Europe. Some old photo forum appears to suggest Sodium hexametaphosphate (solid) is essentially anti-calcium #4. Any idea if this is the case and what quantity would you suggest in grams?

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Yes, Acetic acid (either concentrate, or household vinegar) should work as well. In theory it will give slightly "off" results, but in practice, QWD and other ECN-2 kit manufacturers recommend it, so it should give good enough results. One thing however is to use acetic acid and not citric acid. Citric acid is stronger, but will react with the bleach causing off colors, according to the late and great PE. For anti-calcium, I'd try going without it and see if you have any problems. If you have problems, then try to find a substitute. It likely isn't required if mixing everything with distilled water. I've found some sources saying it's not needed for the actual film, but rather to avoid calcium deposits in the industrial size tanks. I use it since I have it, but I know many people that don't with good results

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Well I've ordered a bunch of chems, next step is of course to try it out. Haven't searched the web for obscure recipes like this since dabbling in Collodion.
I'm wondering if as a trial run, it would be a good idea to divide the 1 liter quantities of the formula by 1/3 so as to have (roughly) 300ml (i.e enough to cover one film in my Paterson tank) or is the Kodak formula precisely calibrated for 1L?
Have to say, you're writeup for scratch mixing ECN-2 is hands down the best on the web! Not a single youtube video on the subject either.

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