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Trump on trade: The EU "is possibly as bad as China, just smaller"
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Trump on trade: The EU "is possibly as bad as China, just smaller"
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· 4 yr. ago![User avatar](data:image/svg+xml,<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="256" height="256"><rect fill-opacity="0"/></svg>)
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
Are the TV channels trolling him or is he really that orange? He looks like he sleeps in a solar bed.
He is a proud Orange American. The only one. How dare you laugh at a person's skin color. Imagine you wake up one day as orange as a ripe tangerine? Very sad situation.
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· 4 yr. ago
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Are you orange-shaming?! No but I wouldn't be surprised if the editor just upped the saturation a few points, you'd be surprised at how much one's perception changes when someone's complexion goes from fake-tan to ripe-carrot
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He's signalling to the Dutch that he wants to be part of their empire.
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· 4 yr. ago
Europe
He is like attention vamipre- instead of sucking blood and sleeping in a coffin, he is sucking all attention towards himself and sleeping in solar bed so that he can get all-round spotlight on himself.
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
Trump is our best friend - whenever he opens his mouth, Europeans unite in opposition to him.
Actually, this is my only hope - that his arrogance and stupidity causes such as strong reaction in terms of counter-tariffs, diplomatic blowback, etc., that this will give even more ammunition to the Democrats here in the US to have an overwhelming victory in the November election.
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· 4 yr. agolevel 2
Don't worry, most Americans oppose everything he has to say as well.
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· 4 yr. ago · edited 4 yr. agolevel 2
· 4 yr. ago
Cuck Island
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· 4 yr. ago
The Netherlands
"They protect their farmers and we don't protect ours!" Excuse me what? Does he not know the US massively subsidize their farmers? Probably not considering it's Trump.
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· 4 yr. ago · edited 4 yr. ago
Finland🇫🇮EU🇪🇺
Well, both US and EU massively subsidy their farmers and both have overproduction.
So it's fair to say that EU protects their farmers, but it's unfair to pretend that US doesn't.
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
"They protect their farmers and we don't protect ours!" Excuse me what? Does he not know the US massively subsidize their farmers?
He never cared about the objective facts or real data. All his statements are just his own view of the world, based on no data or facts, and designed only to energize his supporters and his base. He often invents facts just to make a point. He casually inflates the trade deficit numbers and makes up economic data. For example, he often says that Canada takes advantage of the US on trade, even though US has a trade surplus with Canada. It just does not make sense to even ask this question. He has proven over and over again that most of his statements are not actual. It is very weird and unusual, but this guy is that populist liar you would normally only read about in the history books.
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Yeah, but he's probably referring to countries exporting goods to the US, where China is somewhat larger player than the EU. All EU countries combined actually only trade about as much with the US as either Canada or Mexico does individually. Which makes it even weirder that Trump is pissing off both of them at the same time. Those two countries are super important for US trade.
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I think he refers to the trade deficit we have with the EU. Its smaller than China but it's still there.
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· 4 yr. ago
Europe
GDP only tells so much, in this case the more interesting numbers would be trade volume (US-China vs. US-EU) as well as capital investments (EU/China investments in the US).
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· 4 yr. ago
The Netherlands
No. It's the 2nd largest in both nominal GDP (after the US) and GDP PPP (after China)
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· 4 yr. ago
Hungarian in spirit
At market prices the US is larger, while at PPPs China is larger.
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
The fuck is going on in his mind? Wasn't he best friends with China two weeks ago?
He often contradicts himself in one statement or one interview. Consistency (or truth in general) is not his forte.
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He's just upset because he realised his great friend, the "very honourable" Kim Jung-In isn't giving up his nukes.
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This guy is so incredibly stupid. Seriously, who would want to buy an American car? Their products target a complete different audience. The majority of European roads are just too small for pickups trucks. Their cars are using too much fuel for our expensive gas prices. And we are actually importing quite a lot of cars from the USA. BMW is the largest auto exporter in the USA and I start to see more and more Tesla in Germany.
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· 4 yr. ago
Deutschland
Ford is quite successful in Europe because it adapted to the market, but it produces here soo
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· 4 yr. ago
Lower Saxony (Germany)
It’s not really about „American cars“ - we buy US-Brand cars. However we buy those developed for our market and they are built in Europe.
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Seriously, who would want to buy an American car?
Lots of people, to be fair. It's just that they're manufactured here in the EU and Trumplet doesn't like that. Also, apparently nobody told him that European and Asian brands don't import all that many cars to the US either, they make them there on the spot.
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
This guy is so incredibly stupid. Seriously, who would want to buy an American car?
Actually, some of the BWMs, Audis and other German brands made int he US are exported: https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/money/2018/02/13/bmw-manufacturing-remains-leading-u-s-auto-exporter-despite-pros-2017-exports-decline-amid-overall-s/333490002/
You are thinking of the "real American cars" such as GM/Ford/Chevy, whereas the German and Japanese auto makers have quite a bit of manufacturing capacity in North America.
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· 4 yr. ago
Greece
At least here in Greece, Toyota Hilux is the most common. There are few americans. I guess reliability plays a huge factor.
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Well, I have bought an American car, a Chevrolet Volt (called Ampera in Germany). And I'm looking forward to buying a Tesla Model 3.
While in general American cars suck, they have much better options for electric cars. I hope German automakers get their shit together soon so I can go back to the warm bosom of German engineering.
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· 4 yr. ago
Cuck Island
This is an unfair statement. The EU does operate trade tariffs, and does manipulate currency.
He's talking specifically about various economic zones making it harder for the US to sell their goods (which certainly does describe the EU/China).
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· 4 yr. ago
German-Greek
I hope that orange retard knows that for example Mercedes has plants there and are assembled ON THE US YOU DUMBHEAD
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
I remember the government driven East German TV propaganda channels have been bad. But never as bad as this FOX ‚News‘.
It's worse, because very few people at the end of the socialist era actually believed the East German TV. But many people in the US believe Fox News and turn to Fox News because "the other media is fake". It's almost like a cult.
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· 4 yr. ago · edited 4 yr. agolevel 2
Not for long! China was going to overtake EU anyway, but with Brexit, it will be in 5 years.
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· 4 yr. ago
Cuck Island
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· 4 yr. ago
Hesse
Please convince as many people as you can to register and to go out and vote this fall and in 2020.
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Keep the Fox drumbeat going. Europe bad. Russia, China, North Korea good.
Vlad is getting every ruble worth.
The very definition of treason.
Mr. Trump, you are a traitor to this nation.
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· 4 yr. ago · edited 4 yr. ago
Europe
next president can't repair all the damage that is done ... no country on this planet will trust the USA again. even when next president is a Saint, than this means nothing because it can change every 4 years
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And he would want it ever smaller to push around..... USA on the verge of a fascist state.
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· 4 yr. ago
Greater Finland
US is nowhere near fascism... Everything the country represent is the complete opposite of fascism. They're just slowly descending into collective madness and it's starting to show in their politics.
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Any Europeans reading this stuff just know that the majority of Americans consider Europe our friend and ally, most dont support Cheeto Benito, and we will get someone better in charge VERY soon. Just stick this one out with us please.
Your friend,
American Majority
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· 4 yr. ago
United States of America
Any Europeans reading this stuff just know that the majority of Americans consider Europe our friend and ally, most dont support Cheeto Benito, and we will get someone better in charge VERY soon. Just stick this one out with us please.
I wish you were right, but his approval rating according to the many polls right now anywhere from 40 to 44%. It's pretty substantial, considering all the corruption, lying, investigation, vulgar comments, etc. He is more popular among the Republicans than Reagan and Bush were. It is completely crazy. I don't understand it. But this is what it is.
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· 4 yr. ago · edited 4 yr. agolevel 2
· 4 yr. ago
Nizhny Novgorod, Russia
Trump's approval is at all-time high at 47%.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/394384-poll-trump-approval-rating-ticks-up-to-47-percent
June 27, 2018.
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· 4 yr. ago
Europe
Relationships always have good and bad moments, they come and go. Our partnership may get stretched a bit by Trump but I can’t imagine it gets broken. We are close allies since ~70 years. I am sure we can go through these difficult 4-8 years and be able to work together after that :)
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· 4 yr. ago
Italy
You had presidents worse than Trump (at least regarding foreign policy) and nothing happened, so don't worry. Unless you directly declare war on Europe nothing ever gonna happen, and even in that case I suspect that some states will side with you anyway.
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Europeans on Trump: „Trump is possibly as stupid as ‚stupid orange’, just oranger”.
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· 4 yr. ago
United Kingdom | War with Spain
The EU is a bigger threat than China? With UK (never gonna hapen FYI) yes, without UK, fuck no.
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· 4 yr. ago · edited 4 yr. agolevel 2
· 4 yr. ago
Lower Saxony (Germany)
The global trade system is set up to advantage the US, given that they have the most powerful weapon in the USD. They are the one country able to run trade deficits this big while profiting from it.
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· 4 yr. agolevel 2
I an genuinely not convinced this is so bad for the American. At worst they fail to repay some of the IOUs at some point in the future, but they'll keep the stuff they consumed forever.
Trump's voters don't want to just consume. They want to manufacture and sell goods too. People can't spend money that they don't have forever, at some point other people will stop lending them money.
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And that's why USA was alone against the commies just before Red Dawn 🤣🤣🤣 Wolverines!!!
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· 4 yr. ago
United Kingdom | War with Spain
Income inequality in China plays a major role however, with the poorest sectors of Chinese society being significantly poorer than those of American society.
Furthermore, per capita is kind of irrelevant when we are referring to the power a country wields, and China is dominating manufacture and other major fiscal industries.
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· 4 yr. ago
India
EU isn't even a country. And parts of the EU aren't in very good shape either. Most of Eastern Europe is still developing and Southern Europe is stagnating.
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A 2.5% vs 10% tariff on a product with average price of 40,000 amounts to a difference of 3,000.
That is significant, and it should be rectified because it is unfair, but I think that other factors help explain why American cars are not popular in EU.
As for foodstuff... In the US I studiously avoid certain USA products because of the regulatory regime here. Beef raised with ractopamine? No thanks, will not buy it if I never have beef again. When the label says “born, raised, harvested in the USA,” I look elsewhere. Or roundup ready crops. Do not buy soybeans or corn unless it is organic.
As an American, I am very happy that the EU does not allow this stuff inside their borders. Hopefully the awareness level in the US will rise as well.
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A 2.5% vs 10% tariff on a product with average price of 40,000 amounts to a difference of 3,000 That is significant, and it should be rectified because it is unfair
Not this pathetic bullshit again.
Yes, you're USA, and are completely uneducated about this stuff, just like the usual Trump-following shitsack.
What is the EU tariff on trucks? 10%.
What is the USA tariff on trucks? 25%. See many EU trucks in USA? And EU offered to change the tariffs, CARS INCLUDED, in.. an international trade deal. Which Trump pulled the USA out of.
What's the USA import tariff on Train wagons? 14%? vs 2-3% EU?
On Tobacco and things it's 200-300%.
The US of A has the highest amount of protective measures.
And as for any agricultural tariffs the EU has: US of A massively sponsors it's sugar industry. So it wouldn't be fair not to put some limits on imports from USA.
My favorite example however:
how many non-USA sand-bagger ships, does the US of A employ?
The answer, is ZERO.
There's no 'tariff', but there's USA regulation, that ANY sand-bagger ship used in USA waters, must be made in USA, and flying USA flag.
And the result is you have shit-tier sand-bagging equipment fyi.
Sure, make the trade 'more fair', start with the shit USA regulations.
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· 4 yr. ago
Romania
It's full of Fords and Opels (a GM brand) in Romania, don't think that's accurate
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I guess no one told him all those US companies that are actively avoiding taxes are doing so in Europe & that all of that cash is in European banks.
Wonder what he'd do with an extra trillion dollars (or two) floating around the exchanges if the EU were to expropriate that cash.
F^ck trade wars. The EU could destroy the dollar in a New York minute.
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· 4 yr. ago
Germany
The EU could destroy the dollar in a New York minute.
I think a complete USD crash would take the Euro with it.
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What? I get you are offended but this is not even close to being true. The USD is the reserve currency of the world with the deepest market of any currency.
So not only do we not have that capability, but in that magical world you live in where you do, you would also fuck over everyone else on earth at the same time, including giants like China who hold trillions of US debt.
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Is this guy stupid or are their deeper meanings as to why he is making his actions
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How can you “prossibly” anything. It either is or isn’t. Does this mean our majesty the president is guessing?
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· 4 yr. agolevel 1
· 4 yr. ago
Copenhagen
How lovely the article doesn't mention the arguments he made to prove his point: the EU cares about its car manufacturers and farmers and uses protectionist measures to help them - the US doesn't. It's a 30 second clip, yet they didn't bother to list that - just do the clickbait to rile up people who don't know how to check sources.
But you could argue against him using these points. While I don't know much about car situation (maybe raise tarrifs to equivalent levels on this, Donald?), the farming situation is way more complicated than just "they don't want any foreign products". If he believes the US should be as 'smart' as the EU, maybe he should bring in the subsidies? I mean, if we're smart according to him, then it would be smart of him to copy that model or make a better one?
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· 4 yr. ago
Polihs grasshooper citizen
car manufacturers
They've received plenty of bailouts during the Obama years: https://www.thebalance.com/auto-industry-bailout-gm-ford-chrysler-3305670
The U.S. doesn't need to directly subsidize their industries, just give them tax breaks and the occasional bailout.
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