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Try to find out where to get starter for 1984 500sl.Looks like starter from any other r107 won't fit.Cant find anything online about this,except one story in peachpart forum.Right side is euro starter on first picture. Second picture is 560sl and third is 500sl.Part number on euro starter is 0 001 314 028.Thank you
 

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Try to find out where to get starter for 1984 500sl.Looks like starter from any other r107 won't fit.Cant find anything online about this,except one story in peachpart forum.Right side is euro starter on first picture. Second picture is 560sl and third is 500sl.Part number on euro starter is 0 001 314 028.Thank you
Looks like you have a RHD car. That would have the starter on the opposite side. Look up a starter on Ebay.UK
 

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No.I have 3 cars 500 sl euro left hand drive and they all have different starter then other R107 models
 

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That is a Bosch part number not Mercedes. Google it.
 

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Nothing like that exist on Google and there is nothing for sale anywhere!!! If I use that Bosch part number no mater where(Google,ebay,MB DEALER),the starter on picture showing regular starter (380,450,560)with different solenoid position and different mounting holes.
 

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I already order one from mercedes dealer and they sold me regular starter.
Sound weird but worst case scenario is to bring you replacement starter to an re builder and have them swap housings.
 

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Try to find out where to get starter for 1984 500sl.Looks like starter from any other r107 won't fit.Cant find anything online about this,except one story in peachpart forum.Right side is euro starter on first picture. Second picture is 560sl and third is 500sl.Part number on euro starter is 0 001 314 028.Thank you
I'm a little confused (insert joke here). The two pictures on the left apear to be from RHD cars. The one on the right (560SL) appears to be from a LHD car.

This one from the German E-bay also to be a RHD.

Mercedes Anlasser Starter Bosch 0986010900 Neuteil W126 W129 280 500 SL | eBay

Are the cameras reversing these pictures.
 

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Starter for 500SL

Sound weird but worst case scenario is to bring you replacement starter to an re builder and have them swap housings.
Take roncallo's advice. I went through this several years ago. Tried three different starters and neither would fit. One of the mount flanges was too large.We took all the guts out of the last new one and put them in the old housing. Works fine.
 

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I did the same when I got a wrong refurbished starter from a UK company (Woods) that they claimed would fit. The solenoid seal was also cracked, and they showed little interest in helping out.

Attached are my notes with part numbers.
 

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I have one original used 500sl starter coming next week,but since is pita to find one,I am gonna try to swap the guts first and if I made it I can keep the other as spare.Thanks for help!!!!
 

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Hi Girota, brother.
I own a 1987 ex-no catalyzer euro 500SL in Japan for over 20 years and was in the same PITA situation for about 2 weeks till yesterday.
<Left: Original A0021519601(but no number on the body), Right: Purchased Bosch SR86x(but no number on the body, printed on carton box only)>
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My car was parallel imported 1987 from Germany as a new car no catalyzer full powered euro, and catalyst was modified in Japan for road legal.
So it's the same arrangement as yours from exhaust manifold downpipes to center pipe, near of the bell housing.

I am the third owner of this car and wishing to be the last.

If I recall there was a first crisis on the starter motor around 2010.
But it was relatively solved easily at that time. My mechanic inspected electric contacts, took small hammer and lightly hit the cases of motor and solenoid, and relubricated on the gears.
My good old mechanic was retired long ago.

This time, I searched and bought for A0021519601 from US usually very reliable retailer AutohausAZ but arrived a wrong solenoid offset angled one, Bosch SR86x.

I searched around the whole world, including Mercedes' mother country Germany and slightly fearful Russia and even China new mother country of Bosch alternators and starters division.
After all, I swapped that guts of arrived one, as same as your way because of no other choice.
<Refurbished, front>
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<Refurbished, back>
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<Refurbished, side>
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What only useless information and wrong photos are appeared around the 2020 whole internet world!
I mean I can't believe that even if it ’s not just Mercedes parts, but also even the Bosch compatible product suddenly disappeared from the world.
Not only euro 107 SLs, other industrial machines in EU would have engines with this type of starter, wouldn't they.
But surprisingly, even in Germany doesn't seem to talk about replacing the assembly of this type of euro500SL's starter motor.

After the replacement, the sound of gears meshing when the engine started became apparently wrong.
Since only the pinion of the starter motor has been renewed, it may be because there is no good contact surface between the gears, but there is a lot of cheap high-frequency noise, and it is embarrassing to start the engine when somebody's around..

In order to adjust the bite depth when the pinion slides into the ring gear, putting in some washers on the mounting flange to adjust the distance, but as far as concerning the sound did not change. Young mechanic may have damaged the gear teeth during the servicing process but I can't tell it just by looking from the outside.

However, it does not seem to affect the engine starting performance. I will have to put up with it and continue riding. Or someday I might replace the flywheel ring gear A1170301012.

In this way, the mechanics changed generations, even the certified importers no longer knew the old model information, and the parts supplied by the manufacturer changed to completely different contents (side window weather strip for the soft top changed not hollow but a solid rubber bar, which is a typical example! ), repeatedly maintained and repaired based on fragmented and inaccurate information.
Quiet and profound original condition is gradually lost, and it transforms into a cheap car that is unbearable for those who know the original state.

In the last 20 years, I've actually spent as much or more money as I bought a new R107 at the time, but if the same car now goes on sale for $ 150,000, I wouldn't be able to buy it. Because if what I buy a new car now, I will buy a modern car that meets modern values instead of the R107.

For me, R107 was the one that I like its appearance first and foremost. Of course, it was also important that it was an affordable used car.
There is no new car of the same kind, so it's not easy to find a replacement candidate now.

When I can't stand this change someday, I'll die with this SL. That's how I feel these days.

Sorry for long sentence.
Thank you.
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My USA 1986 560SL has a scraping sound when starting.
I have not addressed it because getting to that top bolt is a PITA.
Supposedly there is some spacers that were used - might be the problem.
Maybe the slider the Pinion Gear rides on needs lubing, or making more smoother, or the spring is weak.
Been an issue with me for the last 7 years. F*ck it :)
 

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Hi, Carl.
You're worried about the scraping noise, aren't you? I can sympathize with that feeling very well.
But if it's only been sounding for 7 years and there are no other signs of failure, it may not be a worrying issue.

The reason I used some washer (about 2mm+) on the mounting flange to adjust the bite depth was that the starter pinion and flywheel ring gear were not well separated after the engine started.

Anyway it would be the time to check it once with your reliable mechanic.
You may feel refreshed for the first time in 7 years. Good luck.
 
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