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Population change projection [2017-2050]
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· 13 days ago · edited 13 days ago
Didn't know we are already in 2050. Croatia has 3 800 000 population according to last 2021 counting.
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· 13 days ago
Croatia
Bruh, that is just our overlord Plenković increasing the GDP per capita. Less people and more GDP - very nice. You should be grateful for such thoughtful economic policies.
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· 13 days ago
Romania
How the hell is Spain with +13.24%? Where are all the people coming from?
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· 13 days ago
Community of Madrid (Spain)
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· 12 days ago
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· 13 days ago
Estonia
Baltics will have
Not just will have, but already have. Estonia for example had positive migration balance since 2015. About 2-4k migrants each year, which helped our population to grow by 15k since 2015.
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Ireland are in the midst of a pretty major housing crisis. Excited to see how our additional 33% will be stored
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· 13 days ago
Flanders (Belgium)
Ireland has plenty of space in the rest of the country for more development. Maybe they should stop trying to cram everything in their capital.
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· 13 days ago
South Holland (Netherlands)
It must be old data. The CBS (Dutch central statistics agency) puts the Dutch population at about 19.6 million in 2050 and even 20.6 in 2070.
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· 13 days ago
France
As usual, the French numbers are false as they only count metropolitan France.
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· 13 days ago
European Union
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The Same goes for the danish statistics bureau. This map might be garbage.
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· 13 days ago
Estonia
It takes into regard the sharp population decline due to many illegal Soviet immigrants returning to Russia in early 1990s and thinks this "trend" has an impact on the future...
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· 13 days ago
Slovakia
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· 13 days ago
Opole (Poland)
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· 12 days ago
Lower Saxony (Germany)
This map uses outdated projections. The German one is in line with the 2006 projection of the German Federal Statistical Office. Whose numbers for 2022 are already off by 4 million because of an increase in fertility and migration (and migrated women having more children).
In similar vein to Estonia, Germany's most recent projection is between 77.4 and 84.4 million for 2050. The more optimistic outlooks actually seeing an increase in population.
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· 13 days ago · edited 13 days ago
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· 13 days ago
Lower Styria (Slovenia)
I really doubt we are gonna lose 500k people in 30 years. We are currently still growing after all
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· 13 days ago
🇭🇷 Istrians of the world, unite! 🇸🇮
I don't know what would have to happen to Slovenia for its population to drop faster than the rest of ex-Yu.
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· 13 days ago
Greece
Ukraine is probably already at 37M.
Estonia seems wrong, they are not losing population like their neighbours.
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And people talking about overpopulation. The real problem developed contries will have is the rising part of elderly and a decreasing birth rate. Thats a cause of real concern for the future!
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Population is imo one part of the problem. Another is consumption habits of that population. Overpopulation then means we have too much people consuming too much.
In very simple form, there's two options. Less people could consume as before for more balanced ecological situation OR more people could populate our planet but they need to consume less.
Of course technological changes change this balance all the time.
Overpopulation is enough people to consume too much. In theory it could be one person if that supermuncher should consume too much resources.
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Just because overpopulation isn't an issue here doesn't mean it's not an issue elsewhere
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· 13 days ago
Germany
While most projections 30 years into the future are usually bullshit this looks especially unbelievable if you ask me.
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· 13 days ago
Ireland
It's bonkers. Where are they going to live? We are in a housing crisis as is without adding 33% more people.
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Ireland extra 1.6m people? Unless they sort out their housing problem I don’t think that’s possible unless you want a 1/4 of the population to be homeless
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Yup even today both Nation close to 70 millions People and both a little above 3 trillions $ economy. like twins.
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As a French, I propose to emigrate myself to this beautiful country called Finland 🇫🇮❤️ to bring up the statistics!! 🌲😍
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· 13 days ago
Lithuania
This is projection based on 2017 trends. Trends tend to change. e.g. Estonia population started growing, Lithuania saw population rise for the first time in 2020
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· 13 days ago
Kosovo
We western europe now bitches.
In all seriousness I don't know how they calculated this one but I dont see us increasing our pop. if the youth keeps emigrating towards Germany for work.
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· 13 days ago
Kosovo
Population grew by a whopping...0.06% in 2021...17% increase by 2050 seems very optimistic.
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Spain must be due to immigration, because it has the lowest birth rate of Europe with Italy
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Hmm we were growing in a last couple decades and now in 28 years we will loose 500k of people? Sounds legit (Slovenian here).
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Slovenia 4th worst decline after Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia and Estnia? What..based on what? Is there a looming catastrohe I failed to see?
What's the justification to assume this nearly 1/4 loss of population???
Just to point it out, Slovenia has population growth right now... so what do they anticipate will change so drastically?!
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· 13 days ago
Kosovo
These are projections from 2017, projections change tho, as every year there are different % of growth. Slovenia may have seen a decline in 2017 wich is why this projection is so drastic.
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This data makes literally no sense. Danish statistics bureau said population would be higher in 2050 than 2017.
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· 13 days ago
Hungary
Yeah, no. We may decrease slower but we will decrease.
Supporting three kids is nice, but tons of couples don't even have the first kid or way too late. Helping with the first kid and then the second/third is a lot more effective than expecting three at once. It would be also more beneficial to establish the majority having 1-2 kids than a few families having three.
Free house and free car money, sure. The property and car markets are so propped up by free loans that your free money is useless in a few months. I mean, since COVID dropped property prices skyrocketed and in the last year even used cars got 30-40% more expensive. Supporting the demand side in this case is a big no-no in economics, they should support supply by establishing cheap and quality government housing. Not to mention 10%+ inflation.
The government does nothing against brain drain. Tons of young people still leave the country who have higher education. Simply the Hungarian wages and jobs are just not cutting it. And these are the people who could establish new companies, bring in innovation and added value sectors. Ofc fidesz is not interested in that, just drop more kids to work as serfs.
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· 13 days ago · edited 13 days ago
Holy shit, inflation will be crazy in Hungary for a long time with initiatives like that. I would leave this country at once if I wouldn't had any children becouse its need be financed by others in some way and all of that isn't cheap.
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· 13 days ago
France
If the projections are correct, there will be a few years where UK Germany and France will have the exact same population.
Power-balance wise, it should be interesting.
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· 13 days ago
Germany
Well, in 2000 it was projected that Germanys population would decrease to 80 Million, but instead it increased to over 83 Million. Those projection couldn't expect the mass immigration in the mid 2010 from the Arabic countries and they couldn't project the work immigration from the mediterranean countries because of there 2008 financial crises and it following struggles from countries like Italy and Greece. But they completely underestimated the immigration from the countries who joined the EU later one, like Poland or Romania.
Those Projections just can't predict certain events.
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· 13 days ago
Turkey
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· 13 days ago
Turkey
not in the list , amk ne zorluyon koymamislar iste,simdi birazdan turkey is not europe tayfa gelir 😂
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Seems like everyone is aaying their numbers don't fit at all. Agree.
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· 13 days ago
Italy
Never knew i’d be able to see Italy and growth in the same sentence in my lifetime 🤯
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· 13 days ago
Spain
Italy is increasing?When I see Spain, I can only laugh.
I'm sure this is old data!
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Where tf is ireland gonna put the extra 1.4million people? There's not even enough houses in our country, too many irish people are homeless at the moment
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I've seen some Russian stats that have correlation between the massive pine deforestation and the drop of population coming.
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· 13 days ago
Estonia
Bs map. Estonian population has grown almost 1% since 2017 and there are no indications for such sharp decline to come in the near future. We have positive migration balance uninterrupted for 7 years already.
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· 13 days ago
Estonia
The data for Estonia is… nonsense. Our population is growing or at least staying the same for years now.
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I'm curious what happens to Sweden once the Muslim population reaches such numbers that they can form a ruling coalition government.
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· 13 days ago
Spain
How come Spain is growing so much?
We have low natality and average inmigration.
It's because of the retired brits?
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So, apparently Russia won again?
Edit: It’s a joke about foreseen future of another iron curtain.
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· 13 days ago
Estonia
Don't worry, this map is completely wrong. We have positive migration and overall population growth since 2015. I have no idea what data they used to predict such bs numbers.
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· 13 days ago · edited 13 days ago
I think someone else already pointed this out, but this is likely inaccurate for the Netherlands: Statistics Netherlands published a prognosis of ~19,63 million in 2050, and a low scenario of 17,79 million. This chart takes that low scenario, but that assumes basically no population growth over the next decades.
https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/dashboard-bevolking/bevolkingsteller
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· 13 days ago
United States of America
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· 13 days ago
United States of America
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· 13 days ago
Aragon (Spain)
I'd want to know how the hell Spain is one of the countries with most projected growth when our birth rate is abysmal and, as far as I know, it's not like our economic outlook is going to change the current situation of young people or attract a significant amount of immigrants any time soon.
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· 12 days ago
NAVARRA - SPAIN
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Don't worry people, the population change isn't a higher natality rate, it's old people sticking around :) (/s)
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· 13 days ago
Slovenia
Interesting data for Slovenia, it's the only country that has actually increased its population due to immigration in all ex yu. To get numbers like this in 28 years from today, when still most of the boomers will be alive, with the immigration going on, idk what must happen...
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· 13 days ago
The Lake Bled country
Nothing wrong with Slovenia, everything wrong with this poorly reaserched map.
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· 13 days ago
Catalonia
Unless Spain receives a lot of immigration, I really doubt the population would grow.
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· 13 days ago
Denmark
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I don't know how Spain could grow so much while the Sahara kinda expands there and Summer temperatures go wild because of the climate change.
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Apart from this map having questionable sources I think it is Bulshit to expect population changes to be measured accurately for 30 years in the future.
10 years ago the German fertility rate was 1.3, now it’s 1,54. Many things can change in 30 years not even talking of immigration which can’t be predicted for such a timespan.
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· 13 days ago
Serbia
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As a Lithuanian the only comfort I get is that we will not go extinct alone, our brothers from the north will join us in this last trip.
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· 13 days ago · edited 13 days ago
This is like the worst prediction ever. Made by one of big 4 consultancies?
Croatia and Romania already passed the numbers.
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· 12 days ago
Baden-Württemberg (Germany)
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· 12 days ago
Estonia
The same projections were made in 2000-2020 that showed rapid decline in our population... Guess what, it didn't happen.
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· 11 days ago
Poland🇵🇱
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· 13 days ago
Malta
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· 12 days ago
Kosovo
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As Anti-natalist I approve of this forecast. Keep up the good fight and god bless Durex.
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