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Matthew Brooker
@mbrookerhk
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@mbrookerhk
They must have known, at least in outline, what was coming, so you'd think they'd have worked out their line in advance. The state media dissonance is a sign of how difficult this is for China to reconcile
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Nicholas 🇺🇦
@njstone9
Only if you totally ignore the founding principle of the United Nations and the current world order: that people have the inalienable right to self determination.
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Sam
@sammyard078
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@mbrookerhk
Jiang Zemin gave away huge area of land in the north east to Putin like a gift. There's no dilemma because contradictions are essential in communism.
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Qilin Wang
@QilinWang6
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@mbrookerhk
You are right, and I think this hard question will be dodged officially for a long time. Recognizing a separatist country just because some superpowers endorse it is against the core objective of Chinese diplomacy.
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⚙️Mach⚙️
@bdragon74
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@mbrookerhk
Idk, what did they do the last time this happened, when Russia craved out chunks of Georgia and declared them independent so that they could be proper vassal states?
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Zachary Taylor
@Locker205
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1/5: For those of you speculating about what the Chinese will now say about Donetsk/Luhansk, you might look at what China said in 2008 about Abkhazia and South Ossetia. For example: fmprc.gov.cn/ce/ceit/ita/fy
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Nicholas 🇺🇦
@njstone9
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@mbrookerhk
That's not how China will frame it: These will essentially become part of Russia and controlled by them, not fully independent states. Exactly what China wants to achieve with Taiwan.
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@Exostrologist
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@mbrookerhk
It's silly too think they see it that way. They think a country can acquire territory through might. Do you think Putin will liberate Chechnya if Ukraine loses Donetsk?
Pure Questioner
@PureQuestioner
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@mbrookerhk
Why? Putin's stated justification is that the area was once conquered by Russia (according to the Russians). The PRC has already used that argument to lay claim to Taiwan, parts of Pakistan, all of Tibet, parts of Bhutan and India, and all of the "South China Sea"
Guardian Of Light
@KendallShafer
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@mbrookerhk
Taiwan's already independent, just not officially recognized as a country by many others out of fear of China cutting ties to them. It's a country in all ways but that. I don't know abut Ukraine, but we at least need to defend Taiwan.
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Willy
@Wil_the_lab_rat
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@mbrookerhk
Solution: Donetsk and Luhansk will join the Russia Federation as soon as Ukraine really shows no hope to regain control over them. I bet on it.
Al uygur
@Aluygur5
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@mbrookerhk
Yeah why Not Uyghur’s Occupied Country East Turkistan ( Aka Xinjiang ) and Tibet…!? East Turkistan and Tibet should be independence as well…
RC
@RichardCai0320
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@mbrookerhk
Maybe the key is that D and L are pro-Russia, so doesn’t really matter if they are independent or not - just like there are many countries who are independent but actually just puppets for the US.
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UgandanKnuckles
@UgandanKnuck1e
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@mbrookerhk
The whole drama unfolding in Europe seems to never ring a bell with many Anglophones that USA being pulling the same stunt in Eastern China that Russia is pulling in Eastern Ukraine. China is tired of this crap because a myriad of old empires already did it 1 & 2 centuries ago.
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George Squatchington
@SquatchCapital
Hawaii isn't disputing that it is a part of the US. Puerto Rico voted to remain a US Territory, but rejected US Statehood. Two very different scenarios- also neither of which represent a territory with it's own democratically elected national government and military.
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Goofrider Flag of Ukraine
@goofrider
Longer version: LPR/DPR historically belong to Russia just as Taiwan historically belongs to China. Kyiv is the real separationist keeping LPR/DPR from reuniting with Russia.
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Karl Hui 許家耀
@karlvh
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@mbrookerhk
Why not, indeed, for HK, East Turkestan, Tibet, Inner Mongolia? After all, there are reasons that these are Autonomous Regions, or 1C2S in HK's case (sadly no longer respected by #CCP) - historically not part of PRC & ethnic composition, history, lang & culture are different.
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Karl Hui 許家耀
@karlvh
In fact, TW, HK, East Turkestan, Tibet, Inner Mongolia have stronger claims to indepedence than Crimea, where today's population a result of USSR's genocide, ethnic cleansing & deportation of Tatars.
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