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Denis Pushilin, the head of the Donetsk People's Republic, just went on Russian TV to ask Putin to recognize it as an independent state. Looks like Georgia 2008 all over again
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Ukraine’s foreign minister responds. A reminder that the DNR and LNR only control about half of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, but claim all of them. If Putin moves to recognize them, that’s tantamount to war.
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No, Ukraine did NOT: ❌Attack Donetsk or Luhansk ❌Send saboteurs or APCs over the Russian border ❌Shell Russian territory ❌Shell Russian border crossing ❌Conduct acts of sabotage Ukraine also does NOT plan any such actions. Russia, stop your fake-producing factory now.
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Putin speaking to his security council now and rattling off the history of the Ukraine conflict from Moscow's perspective. None of them – and these are all Russia's most senior officials – are allowed within 20 yards of him.
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Putin on remarks by Scholz and others that Ukraine isn't going to join Nato any time soon because it's not ready. "This isn't a concession. This is part of your plan!" He says Macron said the US position had changed but couldn't explain how.
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If anyone has any doubts, this ends with Russia recognizing the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. It's a matter of time. Putin used to sit officials around a table and at least act like there was a discussion – now they just look like schoolkids reporting to the principal.
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Dmitry Kozak, Putin's top official for the Minsk talks, say they have been going nowhere since they were agreed in 2015. "Neither the west, nor Ukraine need Donbas," he says. "They want to put the brakes on the situation."
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Alexander Bortnikov, head of the FSB, now talking about accused Ukrainian attacks on Russian territory. He claims they have captured a Ukrainian soldier. This is just utterly surreal
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Sergei Shoigu, the defense minister, now talking about more alleged Ukrainian attacks on Donetsk. Neither he nor Kozak look particularly thrilled about this.
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This obviously has implications for much more than the Donbas – Shoigu says Ukraine could get nuclear weapons and pose more of a threat than Iran or North Korea, due to their Soviet-era knowledge.
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Putin asks if they should recognize DNR and LNR. Medvedev – remember that guy? – says it’s clear Ukraine doesn’t want them and won’t fulfill the Minsk agreements under any circumstances.
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"These aren't just Russian speakers, these are citizens of the Russian Federation," Medvedev says. "If things continue this way, the only way out is to recognize the sovereignty of these territories." He says the Russian people will support it.
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Nikolai Patrushev, head of the security council and probably the most hawkish of Putin’s confidants, is speaking. “We need negotiations, but only with the US. Everyone else will do what they tell them.” “They are hiding their true goal – to destroy the Russian Federation.”
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Sergei Naryshkin, head of foreign intelligence, suggests using potential DNR/LNR recognition as a threat to make Ukraine fulfill the Minsk agreements.
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Then it gets astonishing. Putin: speak clearly, do you support recognition? Naryshkin: I will Putin: You will or you do? Naryshkin: I support bringing them into Russia. Putin: That’s not what we are discussing! Do you support recognizing independence? Naryshkin, flustered: Yes
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I just can’t believe I’m watching this. You half expected Putin to feed Naryshkin and Mishustin to the sharks when they tried avoiding saying they supported recognizing the DNR
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The very nervous ones let slip the ultimate goal of "recognising them as part of Russian territory". Putin quickly interjected to shut them up. But yeah, it's so bad, they gave away the sequel plotline. First recognise DNR, then make them part of Russia.
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Yep it’s a shot show 2 more putin aids got the lubayaka Hilton methinks
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Even Lavrov and Shoigu know this is going to be a disaster, they’ve probably got their escape plans ready for when the time comes
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