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233Official Discussion - Dune [SPOILERS]
Me while they were on Caladan: this planet has major Scotland vibes
Minutes later: bagpipes procession as they land on Arrakis
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Anyone else feel like the importance of water was a miss? I was especially disappointed that they cut Paul crying after killing Janis. I always felt that his giving of his bodies water at the death of Janis and honoring him in that way, in the eyes of the Fremen, was a significant contributor to their initial acceptance of him.
I had a giant ass grin on my face when Kyne brought out the hooks. I wish I had a recording of my face going from ecstatic to horrified when she died; what a great tease.
I was really disappointed the dinner scene didn't make it in but also understand how hard a scene like that would be to convert to film.
Ultimately I thought it was an incredible adaptation of a book that I always thought would be impossible to convert to visual media correctly. The visuals were stunning. Especially the space-faring vessels. Fucking awesome.
hard agree with the water point, it was something the books kinda beat you over the head with and i was surprised they didn’t really expand on it in the movie. minus the little conversation paul has with the gardener about the trees
i had that exact grin on my face too! i heard my friend whisper “holy shit is she gonna ride the worm” and started smiling uncontrollably, only for her to get stabbed two seconds later hahahaha
iirc Paul didn't cry right after killing Jamis. It was only after the Fremen ritual of taking Jamis' water and saying the " Jamis was a friend" thing, he cried.
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It turns out I've been mispronouncing pretty much everything from the Dune universe
Bene Gesserit was always said as Ben Jessurit in my head, Harkonnens was Har-CONE-ens, Liet was more of just Let, I could go on
I got Kwisat hassiratch or whatever the fuck totally correct somehow lol
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Felt like Skarsgard used Brando in Apocalypses Now as inspiration. Some of the shots and mannerisms felt the same
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I just watched it on IMAX. I was bummed out not because the film was bad, but because I didn’t want the film to end and it did. I became deeply invested and I left the theater wanting the story to continue. Let’s hope Part II gets made.
I’m very optimistic that we’re getting a sequel https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-weekend-box-office-1234860683/
It's weird for me to watch a film that long, and still be kinda bummed that it didn't keep going when the credits started to roll. I'm sure there's a massive directors cut hiding away somewhere, and I really hope it drops at some point!
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Despite being 2 1/2 hours long, there seemed to be a lot of things not in this film.
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The Voice shook the damn theater. Thought I was going to shit myself, it was nuts.
Scared the shit out of me when he yelled at his mother to get off of him
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I mean, he's out here killing it in pretty much every genre, though his turn in Ex Machina is probably still my favorite.
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Your mind is gonna be blown when you find out this is literally his only acting credit. At least, so far.
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So I just watched Dune, and did anyone else have trouble comprehending the dialogue?? I heard it perfectly fine but there was moments where the dialogue is incomprehensible and sounds like gibberish, particularly Jessica and Baron.
I needed subtitles in every Jessica scene, mostly cuz she whispered most of her lines. Kept turning them off so I could see more of the screen (HBO's subtitles looked like TV closed captioning). Eventually, I just left 'em on so I could keep up.
It’s tricky cause it could most definitely be an issue with the sound at a theater or in a home setup, but there’s lot of dialogue in this one that’s deliberately mixed atmospherically to the point that they’re not intending for you to be able to hear everything clearly. So, it could be one, it could be the other, or it could be both?
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I was surprised and impressed how much they committed to different houses/cultures speaking in entirely different languages that needed subtitles, when they easily could have just had them speak to each other openly (Sardaukar, Harkonnens, etc). Way more subtitles than they really “had to” use. But it really emphasized how entirely distinct some of these groups are from each other.
Only thing that took me out was when Dr. Yueh spoke with Paul privatly, as I first thought it was to keep Jessica from overhearing, but I was thinking she too would understand the language, but left it as "well, if he speak a different language plus whispering, Jessica maybe wouldnt hear it cleanly", but thinking back it seemed to me like it was to convey a "heart to heart" and Yueh switched to his native tongue and had a real, honest moment with Paul. In retrospective, he was betraying House Atreides but in that moment he was honestly concerned for Paul and it made him switch.
The way the movie use language to convey characters and feelings are excellent looking back. I dont know if that is in the book, as I have only learned and know all the story from second hand, but it's a nice touch for the world in the film as you said.
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I was a bit shocked because almost every piece of media these days has mommy or daddy issues as a prime conflict.
This, that was a shockingly healthy relationship given the circumstances.
I thought the same thing. I’m so use to distant or asshole father with rebellious asshole kid. Instead we got a good father that loves his son and a kid that respects his father but is trying to find his path in life. I just hate we didn’t get more of them together
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I just can't stop thinking about clean shaven Momoa, such a weird sight.
Im glad they had him putting up a much better fight in this movie than the one in the 80’s where he dies so fast
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Piter did it a bit too, such a great way to show us their mental calculations...and demonstrate how valuable mentats are in this age without calculators
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“I recognize your footsteps, old man.”
I’m currently reading God Emperor so this line gave me chills.
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It's left intentionally vague. Maybe he joined up with some spice smugglers? Who can say?
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This movie has the greatest gigantic-empty-room-to-furniture ratio I’ve ever seen. Rooms the size of a basketball court, fifty foot ceilings, furnished with two chairs and bench.
I feel like this was something taken from Herbert's writing himself. I seem to remember rooms in Dune Messiah and Children of Dune being described as being huge but with sparse furniture, maybe just a throne or a few chairs. Maybe he just wasn't into interior decoration lol
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Villeneuve's huge emphasis on motherly figures in his films is quite endearing and it's definitely shown so beautifully with Paul and Lady Jessica's relationship, amidst losing nearly everything at the hands of the Harkonnens, the bond between mother and son is never broken.
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I can’t stop thinking about how fucking majestic he was in this. Very sexy. I love how even when he is literally stripped naked at the foot of Harkonnen’s table, he maintains a sense of nobility. He looked like a fucking Greek god.
GQ did a whole article on it
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Im shook. Honestly, I havent felt this way about a movie and the experience itself since maybe The Dark Knight.
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Say what you want about the movie but no one can deny that Paul has some great jackets.
Denis must have an excellent eye for layering men’s clothing. Ryan gosling looked great in his jacket from BladeRunner 2049 as well.
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I'm guessing that it was probably a Tleilaxu creation. The Tleilaxu are masters of genetic manipulation and creates all sorts of modified and crossbred creatures. Like the chairdog, a living chair that can mold itself to the person sitting on it, and the slig, a pig/slug hybrid that is said to produce the best tasting meat. They also make special orders for anyone who can afford it.
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The way Paul kills Jamis is the same move bull fighters use.
Damn, that's a good catch. You're absolutely right. Pretty cool.
Excellent catch. The bullfighter symbolism come full circle with House Atreides.
I thought his visions were telling him, that he himself had to die in order to become the one, and that he had to follow Jamis and learn about the desert.
What that suppose to be a metaphor? As in killing himself e.g. killing the innocent boy and become a man by taking a life, and "following Jamis" meant agreeing to the fight?
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I honestly miss the bit of dialogue during the Gom Jabbar scene between Paul and the Reverend Mother where it goes:
"My father rules an entire planet."
"He's losing it"
"He's getting a richer one"
"He'll lose that one too"
It was even in the first trailer. But didn't make it into the final cut.
Was thinking about that as I fell asleep last night. I wonder what else was cut, would love an extended version.
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Na it's in the book too. They drop down with suspensors into a cave where thufir is hiding with some troops and fremen.
Looks sooo good on film.
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I agree, but I think what contributes to that desire is how awesome his visuals and manners were in the small amount of screen time he got.
They also really reduced, almost cut the Harkonnen mentat Peter de Vries, who was the person that came up with the whole maneuver and plans within plans. A shame.
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The Baron floating was fucking horrifying, it is not at all how I pictured it in the book. I loved the little moment where he bumped his foot across the table as he was lowering down towards the duke, it was such a nice little touch.
I am just so thrilled at having finally seen that, I read it for the first time with a dune book fanclub with the original trailer release and then the delay happened and it just feels magical to finally see it especially with so many actors that I love as well as my favorite director, such a great adaptation for me. Also that soundtrack with the chanting and just the bagpipes was amazing.
When his antigravity suspenders activate there is a really fitting sound effect as well. Very nicely done by the effects team
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It's a relatively small moment in the overall film, but the scene that really sold the whole thing for me was the pre-departure ritual of the Sardaukar. The entire thing was just so damn alien. The long necked figure leading the ceremony from atop the tower, the rows of grizzled warriors being smeared with blood, the sacrificed men upside down on their altars and the haunting throat-singing that ties the whole scene together.
It just felt like I was there looking at another world that was completely alien to anything I've ever seen. I don't think I've felt anything like that since the 'march to the altar' scene in Apocalypto. I loved the rest of the movie, but I can't stop thinking about that one scene...
It's scenes like this that really make the world feel alive. It could have just been a generic scene of them talking to eachother with the army in the background, but the creative choices make it really compelling. Especially because not everything is explained. What does the ritual mean, what is the throat singing guy saying? It doesn't matter. It's just a quick glimpse of a much larger universe outside of this story, you fill in the rest with your own imagination.
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Goodbye young human. I hope you live.
Well, I now have a new thing to tell my son when I drop him off at school.
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The entire scene on the planet of the emperor’s army was one of the most off-putting scenes I’ve ever watched. Not in a bad way at all. I love movies that can evoke weird feelings. And that planet is just one big weird feeling.
Yeah they needed to make it clear that these are soldier-fanatics, raised in a brutal environment, and the most feared warriors in the Imperium. It's great to hear that they were successful!
I'd call that a huge success on the film-makers' part. Salusa Secundus is a 'hell world.'
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“If you watch the movie you see how it ends. I think you pretty much know the answer to that.”
CEO of Warner Brothers
Was fairly interesting to me that during the stylized credits at the end it just said Dune.
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So Duke Leto died thinking his wife and son are both dead? Thats sad.
maybe. The only hope is that he knew Yueh tried to help them.
He took the duke ring and said "for paul"
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I was beyond glad they never even gave us a preview of the voice.
The delayed/muffled voice and then the sudden jerking of Paul to his knees before The Reverend Mother really conveyed this idea that your free will just vanishes. In cinema was the best first impression of it
I'm so glad that "the voice" didn't sound like the cliche horror movie demonic possessed voice. It actually felt like something otherworldly and horrifying. I love the sound design so much.
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I don't think I heard a single "Muad'dib" the entire movie. Thought for sure they'd at least say it in the end.
Edit: The scene where he chooses it may have not happened yet, I just remember by that time in the book you've read the name a hundred times already. I feel like it won't have the same punch now.
I think he will get that name in the sietch at some point in part 2. They changed the fight location in the movie so it doesn't make sense him getting that name without any other Fremen witnessing. But they did call him with his other titles. Lisan Al-Gaib and Mahdi in the film.
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How come no one is talking about the Harkonnen "pet". WTF was that? A mutilated person?
I feel like this is gonna be how the movie illustrates the depravity of the Baron, rather then the pedophilia from the book. A very tasteful adaptation change lolol.
I got big Audition vibes from that monster, unnerving stuff.
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Who were the guys who were positioned like an upside down crucifixion during that scene with the priests throat singing? Does anyone know? I thought that’s what I saw anyway.
I thought this movie was absolutely incredible and I really want to read the source material now.
I loved the development that the Sardaukar were throat singers and their language was based on throat singing.
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God I loved that scene, I want more baron but that hyped me up so much
I also loved the scene where he just rose up in that big robe that made him seem like he was absolutely massive
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When Leto wakes up, naked, at the table with those slurping sounds…..mad rape vibes. Jesus, the Baron was gross in a very effective way
The way they posed him like Michelangelo’s Pieta was perfect, and not something I expected.
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Yeah, i knew nothing about Dune heading in and it felt like everyone but Paul was at risk.
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My one complaint is that they kept saying it was too hot to be out in the day but then they were always out in the day. And they didn’t even look that hot lol. The dude watering the trees was sweaty as hell and panting even though he was in a giant shade suit but Chalamet was out in regular clothes catching some rays.
No fucking hats. No fucking SUNGLASSES. No obvious sunscreen? I want to know how they ain't getting crispy.
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The advantage book readers has was knowing she’d barely be in it. But we should see a lot more of her in part 2
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Dr. Liet Kynes: I’m a Fremen. I know this land inside and backwards. Do not worry about me traveling you foolish outlanders.
Dies 5 minutes later
Liet’s character felt flipped for me. In the book, super well developed, clearly a leader, and has a poetic death rooted in thinking about the ecology of Dune. And while I didn’t dislike movie Liet, she was underdeveloped and I think came and went too quick. But damn she at least got a badass send off that I think fit the film better than the book death would have
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This isn't a negative. But man, it's so weirdly paced like a TV show. When It ended I just really got "Alright play next episode" feelings. I really want more.
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The most visually impressive movie I’ve seen since Mad Max Fury Road. The scale of everything was just mammoth. The detail of everything was so acute. The wardrobe and costume design was killer. 2.5 hours was not long enough for me. Praying for an extended cut.
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Rebecca Ferguson sure knows how to cry.
Edit - thank you for the silver. kind stranger!
when timothee screamed at her and her chin quivered while crying, i felt so bad 😭
I thought she seemed way more emotional then she seemed in the book, but I guess she was going through a lot and had to show Paul's maturity.
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Okay but what the fuck was the 6 armed human hand spider looking thing.
"it understands"
But I think it was just something added to show how grotesque the Harkonnens are.
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I like how they don’t even try to hide it and have “part one” as the subtitle in the opening credits.
I'd even go a step further and say it felt like I binge-watched the first 3 episodes of a season (just enough to set up the plot before actually getting into narrative gear) and now I have to wait two or three years for the next episode.
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Paul: DO YOU YIELD??
Javier Bardem as T'challa: oooh we don't do that here
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