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2) This data is from directly South Africa’s CDC equivalent

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Steve Miller

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· Dec 19

The source of the hospital data above is province level reports from the archived Daily Hospital Surveillance Reports found on the website of South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases here: nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-i

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3) as for the change in daily hospitalization- Omicron was ahead of first wave but slowing a bit but still ahead of first wave.

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4) Ventilator use with #Omicron was similar early on, and now is running slower, but deaths are still on par with first wave.

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5) Keep in mind, the first wave didn’t have much protection in terms of testing and vaccinations. The fact that Omicron is still running tied or ahead says volumes about Omicron.

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Those are some pretty mild deaths.

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Will the vaccines help us to mitigate some of this??

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If one person at the hospital has Omicron, shouldn’t it spread to the others at the hospital considering how contagious the virus is? Maybe the others are incidental findings?

What does this tell you about hospitalization admissions? Tshwane is the epicenter city in Gauteng.

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So, was the "original" description of Omicron as a "milder" variant just some wishful thinking?

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Hell Maestro

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No. Even with lower proportion of hospitalization and deaths, with much more infected people it will have an impact. In terms of proportion it's much smaller.

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Misleading. Do you know how little was tested during the first wave?

Kyle Stubbs

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It doesn't even show testing, so how is it misleading?

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This is in total contradiction of whats happening. I am in South Africa and following Omicron stats closely.

The media could not be played.

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Sooo confusing.

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SA is probably not the best choice for comparison with western countries because of extremely low percentage of vaccinated population and because of high percentage of young people. Anyway, it helps to pay attention as it is the first set of data we’ve got. Thank you!

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I error on the side of caution when it comes to Covid, but we really need to take a step back and analyze more data. It feels like you're starting with a conclusion and working backwards.

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Err on the side of caution: don’t minimize — you SHOULD assume the worst. We didn’t do that with COVID originally and it was minimized. And then that was amplified. Close to a million Americans dead. I think the data ALREADY is clear.

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How was the start date for the waves determined? Seems the paper is inaccessible right now.

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Can you help explain and reconcile with this

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Scott Gottlieb, MD

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In South Africa, we’re thankfully seeing a striking decoupling between new Covid cases and ICU admissions and deaths. Whether #Omicron is inherently less virulent, whether this hopeful finding is result of baseline immunity in infected, or a combination of both, is still unclear.

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People have to get hospitalized and actually die for deaths to be counted. Not enough time has passed to see the full extent but in the grand scheme (if you’re in the US), it’s going to behave differently since our population is older than SA’s.

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How do you get elevated deaths on day 1 of Omicron? People don't die the very same day they get tested.

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