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A hospital Delta outbreak starting with a Covid patient, infects 41 other: patients, staff (wearing masks), and family, of whom 39 (96%) were fully vaccinated but > 5 months out. Transmission between health care workers eurosurveillance.org/content/10.280

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In case you were wondering if 3rd shots (boosters) were useful

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Anyone who knows the data from Israel shouldn't be surprised.

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Can you elaborate?

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So at what frequency should we get vaccinated?

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This does not surprise me at all, as HCWs in only ONE of the 8 medical offices and hospitals I've visited in the last month were wearing masks correctly, and in that one, they were wearing surgical masks, NOT N95s.

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I see so many people wearing leaky surgical masks... Time to wear a good mask that protects the wearer.

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Is that Cq the number of cycles on PCR? If yes, then sub 20 was not as predictive as we would have thought.

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Good question

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Do we know what kind of masks? N95? Surgical? Hanes cloth? The devil commonly lies in some of those details. Like, if they are getting thought N95 at that rate, yikes.

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It says N95 on the staff in the linked article.

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We need rapid testing at scale. Now

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Um, can a corporation make a massive profit? Cuz USA only does policies that benefit the Ruling Class.

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I didn’t read yet but what kind of masks were HCW wearing? Surgical or N95 / elastomeric respirators?

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write your reps!

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Also how was their ventilation? I was at a hospital yesterday in outpatient appt and their ventilation is running so hard it's so loud I had trouble hearing voices. I still wish they would all wear n95 or better instead of surgical masks.

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A good reminder to up your mask game. KR94. KN95. N95. Fit with no leaks!

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you've said they don't work 8 months out, then 7 months out, and now it's 5. you realize your contrarian posting of outlier studies have become staples for the anti-vax, movement right?

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Antivaxxers will intentionally misinterpret anything they can. The point is, vaccines work, but we also need boosters. It's like saying "If seat belts work, why do I need to wear them more than twice?"

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It's not a reflection on Ro of Delta but efficacy of Pfizer. Delta originated from India. Practically all COVID are due to delta ever since second wave. We don't see such a high Ro in AZ vaccinated population. We do come across breakthrough but never like this one. Let's see.

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You might be on to something. It would only mean that almost all available data, efficacy studies, and post vaccination nAB studies all over the world are wrong.

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Yikes

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Wow!! Vaccines + mask

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Surgical masks. Only one of the staff that became infected wore an N95.

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The DUDE got covid while he was being treated for cancer. he got covid IN the hospital. I think a lot of others are same. Hospitals are covid disease vector. Its so easily transmitted and they have no solution.

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And, the CDC keeps pushing this notion that breakthrough infections are rare. How would they know when they don't even track it?

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I think when you are in a hospital environment, heavy with virus in the air, it is more likely that there are going to be breakthrough cases. I’m thinking about viral loads. Hopefully the statistics are holding for a lighter case if vaxxed and have a breakthrough.

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Wow…

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Is this what "containment" looks like?

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I need my 3rd dose kindly reconsider for those with underlying conditions over 18 < pfizer 6months. I dont want to land in the icu. My 6months will be up in October.

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This was in July & looking forward & knowing what type of impact an outbreak can have in this type of setting, I hope these all can help: •Booster shots •Merck's COVID-19 pill

•N-95 masks •Rapid testing

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Now square that with this survey: Only 40% of nurses report using respirators while caring for suspected Covid patients (as now mandated by OSHA ETS).

Nursing union says hospitals aren't following OSHA standard amid delta

Industry groups opposed the rules laying out masking, social distancing, testing and exposure notification requirements for hospitals and nursing homes. Implementation was required in July.

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How sick are they?

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They say: vacc “albeit still providing protection for individuals without comorbidities.” Science says (already 17 months ago):“Influenza and obesity (T2D) and the lessons for COVID-19 pandemic.Acta Diabetol. 2020 Jun link.springer.com/article/10.100 Action pls: ijme.in/articles/has-t

Influenza and obesity: its odd relationship and...

Acta Diabetologica - Analyze the relationship between obesity and influenza. Basal hormone milieu, defective response of both innate and adaptive immune system and sedentariness are major...

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Love your posts with studies on vaccine lifespan, efficacy! I'm curious: what are the best studies evaluating mask efficacy? I am familiar with the one from Bangladesh showing they help for older people. What else is out there?

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What masks were the HCW wearing when the breakthrough happened?

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important info.

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This seems very bad.

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From everything I've heard, breakthrough cases are grossly undercounted, especially since some don't get symptoms. We need the vaccines to prevent severe illness/death and masks to help prevent transmission.

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How with N95s?

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Only one of the staff who became infected wore an N95. The others wore surgical masks. The index patient spent the first four days on a regular ward (not a covid ward) where N95s were not required.

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The case fatality rate here is higher than basically any other known outbreak. I find it hard to believe that more than 1 of these patients wouldn’t have died anyway from other causes.

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Four of them were 80-89 and two 90-99. All already hospitalized. Like, what is this study trying to prove? That the extremely elderly who are already hospitalized are susceptible to severe COVID? No shit.

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Nice study. Always want more details (who were those “3 family members” infected?) but very encouraging that of the 16 HCWs infected, all were asymptomatic or “mild disease.”

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It’s never going to stop!

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In healthcare settings i have been in, they only briefly wear that level of PPE when in the room with patient and wear regular masks everywhere else quite imperfectly.

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It’s hard to imagine masks ever being optional again in a health care setting. This seems like it’s going to be the new norm.

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Does anyone know the breakthrough numbers for children 12-16 who just got fully vaccinated?

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