The
NDE and Out-of-Body |
Kevin Williams'
research conclusions |
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Imagine that you are a patient in a
hospital and surgery is being performed on you. You are sound
asleep. You were sound asleep long before they wheeled into the
operating room. But while you are asleep something very strange
happens. During the operation, you are suddenly awakened to find
yourself floating near the ceiling! Down below are the
doctors working on your body (as in the cartoon on the left). You see
a strange sign hanging from the ceiling which says "You are dead."
You watch as the doctor puts the electric paddles on your chest. You have a
wonderful peaceful feeling which you have never had before. The
doctors give your body a shock and you are back in your body sound asleep
again.
Hours later, you awaken and tell the doctor about your
out-of-body experience and the "You are dead" sign. The doctor
smiles and tells you, "Your heart stopped during surgery and we had
to revive you. You are part of a near-death study and you had a
near-death experience. You are the first
patient who has ever read that sign. That sign can only be read by
someone hanging near the ceiling. But because you were able to read
this sign and tell us about it, you have proven scientifically that the mind can function outside of the body.
A great scientific discovery has just occurred. Congratulations."
This is probably how researchers are
going to prove scientifically that our consciousness can transcend
our bodies. Somebody is going to have a near-death
experience someday and observe a scientifically controlled test
object, such as a sign like "You are dead", that can only be seen if
the observer is actually outside of their body. This is only the first step
however:
(1) Prove
that consciousness can transcend the body by perceiving verifiable
events while out of the body. The next step is: (2) Same as the first step
except it occurs while the body is verifiably "dead"
(i.e., clinical and brain death). Once these can be proven, all the skeptics will have to admit
that consciousness survives death. It may surprise some people to
know that these kind of studies are going on right
at this moment. Indeed, it is only a matter of time when someone tells a
doctor they saw the "You are dead" sign. For test
purposes, however, the
sign will
probably say something more cryptic to insure the uniqueness of such
an event. A large
number of near-death experiencers have witnessed verifiable events
occurring outside of their body. Unfortunately, such evidence does
not constitute "scientific evidence." The reason is because
scientific evidence involves replication of the experience and the
existence of strict controls over the events being witnessed.
However, the example I gave at the beginning of this page is the
kind of test environment which can provide such scientific evidence.
Many examples of anecdotal evidence of verifiable perception are
provided on this web page.
The
following are three of the most interesting out-of-body testimonies from three NDEs
which I have on my website.
They are from the near-death experiences of Dr. Dianne Morrissey,
Dr. George Ritchie, and Reinee Pasarow. They are exceptional because
they are NDEs involving an extended out-of-body phase, when the experiencer observed events happening around their body.

Dr. Dianne Morrissey: Dianne is the author of the books
You
Can See The Light and
Anyone
Can See the Light. She describes her beautiful NDE in detail in her
video entitled
Soul
Journeys Beyond the Light. It is one of the best
videos I have ever seen. When Dianne was twenty-eight years old, she
was electrocuted and had a very profound NDE. The following is the
out-of-body aspect of her NDE reprinted by permission from her book
Anyone Can See The Light:
I bent over to pick up the plastic tubing. As I began to straighten
up, I accidentally bumped the tubing on the edge of the tank. The
water suddenly squirted across my face - the pain was so sharp, it
felt as if a knife where slitting my cheek! I screamed from the
shock and pain, then felt a moment of temporary relief as the water
crossed over my molars. My reprieve was short-lived, however, as the
electrified water rushed into my mouth.
As my body bent over in shock, I had the most uncanny knowledge that
death was ahead of me. I began to mourn the loss of everything I'd
known: the Earth, my home, my friends - all that I'd been aware of,
all that I loved. Everything I'd believed to be true and lasting was
slipping away from me. I was face to face with death, face to face
with the unknown.
My body was thrown backwards and to one side by the current. My body
crashed to the floor, thrown with such force that my head went right
through the drywall, about a foot above the floor. I never felt the
injuries, however, because I was no longer in my body. I was
actually watching my electrocution from above!
How could I be out of my body and still be alive? I wondered,
astonished.
Suddenly, I was aware that I was inside a vast, seemingly infinite
blackness. I wasn't sure where this blackness was in relationship to
the Earth, but for some reason I was unafraid. My blackout period
was brief, for I now found myself back in my home, but in a new
form. I was transparent, yet I still looked like me.
How elated I felt! Now, out of my body, I had no worries, no cares.
Never had I felt like this when I was "alive". My entire spirit body
was transparent, and I was inside a glowing white light that
extended about three feet around me. At that moment, an awareness
overtook me - I am not my physical body! This realization made me
feel so free, so wonderful! My spirit was glowing with a white light
that illuminated the entire room.
Then, I was up near the ceiling again. Everything still looked the
same - the furnishings, the walls - but there was a new awareness
about the dimension to the scene - it had become transparent. I
could see everything more clearly than ever before, and like a
scientist, I found myself looking at life through a microscope,
discovering minuscule particles of matter normally invisible.
I was now aware of the absence of physical sensations, yet I was
feeling a heightened sense of awareness such as I'd never felt while
alive. I knew I was different from the "Dianne" I had been, but I
also knew I was "me". It was similar to looking at your reflection
in a mirror; you know you're not the reflection, but it does appear
to be you.
Now, I saw that everything was shrouded by a mist. Despite a lack of
gravity, I could easily control my direction, and when I moved into
the living room, I noticed that I had just walked through the glass
coffee table. Wow! How did I do that? I marveled.
Tuffy (her dog) suddenly entered the den and began nipping at my
face and pawing at my arm, trying to get my body to wake up. I knew
that his relentless attempts to awaken my physical body wouldn't
work, yet I was proud of him for trying, and even hoped his efforts
might work. I wondered where his chum, Penny, was, and suddenly I
was next to her in the backyard. I opened my mouth to talk to her
and felt my tongue moving, but no sounds came out. I could
distinctly hear my voice, and then realized it was coming from my
mind. I tried several times to get Penny's attention, yelling,
"Penny, can you see me? Penny, can you hear me?" Apparently she
didn't, because there was no response.
Next, I walked around my backyard. As I looked through the walls of
my house toward the front sidewalk, I noticed a man walking down the
street. Eagerly, I flew to him, right through the walls, and tried
to get his attention. Staring deeply into his eyes, I said
forcefully, "Can you help me? I need help." Then I tried to shake
his shoulders, but he still didn't notice me. Frustrated, I tried to
touch his shoulder to get him to look at me, and my hand went
through his upper right shoulder blade and out his back. This
startled me.
What am I to do? I wondered, becoming upset when I realized that the
man could neither see nor hear me. Instantly, I was back in my yard
again, Penny beside me. I noticed that whenever I felt any
apprehension, I was instantly moved to a place of greater comfort.
On the way back to the den, I stopped right in the middle of the
wall between rooms. I sensed that I was to look down at something
fantastic, and as I gazed downward, I saw a long silver cord coming
out of my spirit body, right through the cheesecloth-like fabric I
was wearing. The cord extended down and out in front of me, and as I
turned around, I saw that the silver cord draped around and behind
me, like an umbilical cord. I followed it through the two hallway
walls and into my den, where I saw it attached to the back of the
head of my physical body. The cord was about an inch wide and
sparkled like Christmas tree tinsel!
As soon as I saw that the silver cord was attached to my physical
body, my spirit body was thrust into a dark tunnel. I moved through
it with great speed, traveling faster than I could have imagined
possible. Although the tunnel was filled with an all consuming
darkness, I felt peaceful and unafraid.

Dr. George Ritchie: In 1943,
George Ritchie died of pneumonia and nine minutes later
returned to life to tell about it. The following is the account of
the out-of-body aspect of his NDE excerpted from his excellent book
Return From Tomorrow. His follow-up book is
My
Life After Dying.
The men let go of my arms ... I heard a click and a whirr. The whirr
went on and on. It was getting louder. The whirr was inside my head
and my knees were made of rubber. They were bending and I was
falling and all the time the whirr grew louder. I sat up with a
start. What time was it? I looked at the bedside table but they'd
taken the clock away. In fact, where was any of my stuff?
I jumped out of bed in alarm, looking for my clothes. My uniform
wasn't on the chair. I turned around, then froze. Someone was lying
in that bed. I took a step closer. He was quite a young man, with
short brown hair, lying very still. But, the thing was impossible! I
myself had just gotten out of that bed! For a moment I wrestled with
the mystery of it. It was too strange to think about - and anyway I
didn't have the time.
I went back past the offices and stepped out into the corridor. A
sergeant was coming along it carrying an instrument tray covered
with a cloth. Probably he didn't know anything, but I was so glad to
find someone awake that I started toward him.
"Excuse me, Sergeant," I said. "You haven't seen the ward boy for
this unit, have you?"
He didn't answer. Didn't even glance at me. He just kept coming,
straight at me, not slowing down.
"Look out!" I yelled, jumping out of his way.
The next minute he was past me, walking away down the corridor as if
he had never seen me, though how we had kept from colliding I didn't
know. And then I saw something that gave me a new idea. Farther down
the corridor was one of the heavy metal doors that led to the
outside. I hurried toward it. Even if I had missed that train, I'd
find some way of getting to Richmond!
Almost without knowing it I found myself outside, racing swiftly
along, traveling faster in fact than I'd ever moved in my life.
Looking down I was astonished to see not the ground, but the tops of
mesquite bushes beneath me. Already Camp Barkeley seemed to be far
behind me as I sped over the dark frozen desert. My mind kept
telling me that what I was doing was impossible, and yet ... it was
happening. I was going to Richmond; somehow I had known that from
the moment I burst through that hospital door. Going to Richmond a
hundred times faster than any train on Earth could take me.
Almost immediately I noticed myself slowing down. Just below me now,
where two streets came together, I caught a flickering blue glow. It
came from a neon sign over the door of a red-roofed one-story
building with a Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer sign propped in the front
window. Cafe, the jittering letters over the door read, and from the
windows light streamed onto the pavement. Staring down at it, I
realized I had stopped moving altogether. Finding myself somehow
suspended fifty feet in the air was an even stranger feeling than
the whirlwind flight had been. But I had no time to puzzle over it,
for down the sidewalk toward the all-night cafe a man came briskly
walking. At least, I thought, I could find out from him what town
this was and in what direction I was heading. Even as the idea
occurred to me - as though thought and motion had become the same
thing - I found myself down on the sidewalk, hurrying along at the
stranger's side. He was a civilian, maybe forty or forty-five,
wearing a topcoat but no hat. He was obviously thinking hard about
something because he never glanced my way as I fell into step beside
him.
"Can you tell me please," I said, "What city this is?"
He kept right on walking.
"Please sir!" I said, speaking louder, "I'm a stranger here and I'd
appreciate it if ..."
We reached the cafe and he turned, reaching for the door handle. Was
the fellow deaf? I put out my left hand to tap his shoulder. There
was nothing there.
I stood there in front of the door, gaping after him as he opened it
and disappeared inside. It had been like touching thin air. Like no
one had been there at all. And yet I had distinctly seen him, even
to the beginnings of a black stubble on his chin where he needed a
shave.
I backed away from the mystery of the substance-less man and leaned
up against the guy wire of a telephone pole to think things through.
My body went through that guy wire as though it too had not been
there.
There on the sidewalk of that unknown city, I did some incredulous
thinking. The strangest, most difficult thinking I had ever done.
The man in the cafe, this telephone pole ... suppose they were
perfectly normal. Suppose I was the one who was - changed, somehow.
What if in some impossible, unimaginable way, I lost my ...
hardness. My ability to grasp things, to make contact with the
world. Even to be seen! The fellow just now. It was obvious he never
saw or heard me.
And suddenly I remembered the young man I had seen in the bed in
that little hospital room. What if that had been ... me? Or anyhow,
the material, concrete part of myself that in some unexplainable way
I'd gotten separated from. What if the form which I had left lying
in the hospital room in Texas was my own?
And if it were, how could I get back to it again? Why had I ever
rushed off so unthinkingly?
I was moving again, speeding away from the city. Below me was the
broad river. I appeared to be going back, back in the direction I
had come from, and it seemed to me I was flashing across space even
faster than before. Hills, lakes, farms slipped away beneath me as I
sped in an unswerving straight line over the dark nighttime land. I
was standing in front of the base hospital.
And so began one of the strangest searches that can ever have taken
place: the search for myself. From one ward to another of that
enormous complex I rushed, pausing in each small room, stooping over
the occupant of the bed, hurrying on.
I backed toward the doorway. The man in that bed was dead! I felt
the same reluctance I had the previous time at being in a room with
a dead person. But ... if that was my ring, then - then it was me,
the separated part of me, lying under that sheet. Did that mean that
I was ...
It was the first time in this entire experience that the word death
occurred to me in connection with what was happening.
But I wasn't dead! How could I be dead and still be awake? Thinking.
Experiencing. Death was different. Death was ... I didn't know.
Blanking out. Nothingness. I was me, wide awake, only without a
physical body to function in.
Frantically I clawed at the sheet, trying to draw it back, trying to
uncover the figure on the bed. All my efforts did not even stir a
breeze in the silent little room.
Suddenly I was aware that it was brighter, a lot brighter, than it
had been. I stared in astonishment as the brightness increased,
coming from nowhere, seeming to shine everywhere at once. All the
light bulbs in the ward couldn't give off that much light. All the
bulbs in the world couldn't! It was impossibly bright. It was like a
million welders' lamps all blazing at once.
"I'm glad I don't have physical eyes at this moment," I thought.
"This light would destroy the retina in a tenth of a second."
"No, I corrected myself, not the light. He. He would be too bright
to look at."
For now I saw that it was not light but a man who had entered the
room, or rather, a man made out of light, though this seemed no more
possible to my mind than the incredible intensity of the brightness
that made up his form.
Reinee Pasarow's Out-Of-Body
Experience

Reinee Pasarow:
Reinee
Pasarow was as a teenager when
she had a NDE after becoming unconscious following an allergic food
reaction. She experienced an usually long out-of-body experience
during her NDE and her description of it is quite remarkable as you
will see. The following is her testimony in her own words:
Then, just like that (clapping her
hands), I became a ball of light or energy in the midst of this
crowd that was circling a body. I became massively aware, unlike any
awareness I had had during physical existence. I was not really
aware of myself. I was aware of everyone around me. I was aware of
my mother and my neighbors, and my friends and the firemen and what
they were thinking and what they were feeling and what they were
hoping and what they were praying. This was such a pummeling input
of emotion and information that I was all at once overwhelmed and
confused, and rather disoriented.
I followed their attention to something on the sidewalk and I looked
at a body on the sidewalk. I looked at the curve of the wrist bone
and I recognized it. I remember looking at it and thinking, "That
looks so much like my wrist bone." And then I became aware that the
thing on the sidewalk, that thing that suddenly became a piece of
meat to me, was what I had identified as myself before, but had no
connection with it other than that I had been with it for a very
long time. But it had nothing to do with me because suddenly, I was
more of a person than I had ever been before. I was more conscious
than I could ever be. I was free of the limitations of being a
physical being.
I looked at my body and I was repulsed with the grief and the tumult
around it and with the very idea that I had ever considered
something physical to be my reality, to be a human reality.
And with that (taps the table) again like this, I was bumped way up,
up above some light wires. From that point I could watch everyone
beneath me, but I was not as closely associated with them, [but] I
was completely feeling everything they were feeling.
I watched my mother and a boy come out of the house and up the hill
which I could not have seen physically. I was very sad for my
mother. I was very sad for my friend who kept calling me. And I was
very sad for the child who had come out of the house. I was very sad
that he would think I was dead. So my concern was for them. I spent
my time observing them and calling to them - calling to them that
everything was as it should be, that everything was fine, that I was
free, that it was wonderful, that I loved them and that they loved
me and that the bond, unlike physical bonds, would never be
destroyed. I tried to communicate this to them over and over again
and I realized that I had no mouth. I had no body. They could not
hear what I was saying to them. I would have to leave them in the
same hands I had left myself in the process of dying. With that I
turned away, just sort of like a ball, just turned away.
My attention turned away lovingly but knowing that there was nothing
I could do. I turned away from them and began to pull up. I became
aware (it was as if I were a camera on a space ship or something) of
our place, my particular little street and then my particular little
town. I kept pulling up and up and up to a point where I could
observe the whole Earth. This was wonderful!
[After her visit to heaven, she returns to where her body is
located.] With a terribly hard crash, I became aware of the scene I
had left earlier - the fire trucks, and now an ambulance. There were
men who were picking up my body and loading it into the ambulance. I
was in a state of complete grief. I felt that I had become Eve and
was cast out of the garden of Eden.
As I was descending down this tunnel, my heart was already attached
to my home beyond. I was begging not to leave. I crashed down into
this realm of existence and was suddenly confused by time and space.
It was as if I had never existed physically. I was suddenly
disoriented. My concern was for my mother, because she was by
herself and she was losing a sixteen year old daughter. She knew
that this was happening because the ambulance attendant looked at
the driver in front and said, "DOA. DOA," which means of course dead
on arrival. The driver turned off the siren and slowed down the
ambulance. Before, he had been driving in a very reckless manner.
We were coming out of the mountains. As we did that, my concern was
for the pain of my mother. I simple wanted to comfort her and to
wrap my soul around her. To assuage the loss of a daughter, the loss
of a child, I found myself simply praying for her.
I followed the ambulance to the hospital and I watched as my body
was unloaded. My mother followed the gurney into the emergency room.
I watched as the first doctor went to work on me. I wasn't
particularly interested in the first doctor because the first doctor
had, that day, been through motorcycle accidents coming out of the
mountains. He had been through a very long day and he was not
concerned with someone who had been brought in dead on arrival. He
had no connection with me. He didn't care and had no affection. So I
had no interest in watching what he did because my interest was
based on affection and love.
I then left the emergency room and was above my mother and some
friends who had followed her into the other room. I again tried to
communicate with them. I tried to let them know that, "This is a
very joyous occasion. I am dead on arrival. Hopefully all would go
well. They are never going to be able to revive me. I was going to
be dead now. Death had become life to me. Death was not something to
be frightened of, but something to look forward to."
What happened then was the first doctor pronounced me dead and was
sending my body off to the morgue. My own personal physician, who
was a country doctor and a very gruff man, stormed into the
emergency room in a tuxedo with his black bag. He looked at the
nurse on the phone who was calling the morgue, and looked at the
doctor who was washing his hands, and looked at my [covered] body
and said, "What the hell happened here? Where is the patient?" They
said, "She was dead on arrival." He said, "The hell she was." He
proceeded to scream at the other nurse who was sort of standing off
in the corner, "I want injections of adrenaline. Bring them to me
immediately and come over here and assist me." He began to go to
work on my body. He began to beat on the chest and began to shock. I
was simply terrified by this turn of events and disgusted that they
would treat a body so brutally.
All of a sudden I sort of became protective towards my body, even
though I wanted nothing to do with it. I began to be protective.
They could at least be nice about it. But they were beating on my
chest and shocking my body, but I was up in the corner of the
emergency room accompanied by other essences who were keeping me
contained in that emergency room.
Reinee then described how she finally returned to her body as a
result of her doctor's last effort to revive her. The medical
professionals she talked to did not know how to deal with her
experience.
(Watch her video online: http://lightafterlife.com)
Verified Perception From NDEs
The "holy grail" of NDE
research is finding an undeniable answer to the question of whether
consciousness can survive bodily death. But before this can be
answered, researchers must first determine whether consciousness can
transcend the brain and function outside of it. One way is to
discover this is to examine those NDEs which are "veridical"
(i.e., verified). Veridical NDEs occur when the experiencer acquires verifiable information
which they could not have obtained by any normal means. Often,
near-death experiencers report witnessing events that happen at some distant location
away from their body, such as another room of the hospital. If the
events witnessed by the experiencer at the distant location can be
verified to have occurred, then veridical perception would be said
to have taken place. It would provide very compelling evidence that
NDEs are experiences outside of the physical body. NDE research is
coming very close to providing such undeniable evidence. What
follows are some examples.

Pam Reynolds: In Dr. Michael Sabom's book, Light and Death,
he includes the NDE account of a woman named
Pam
Reynolds
who underwent a rare operation to remove a giant
basilar
artery aneurysm
in her brain that seriously threatened her life. The surgical
procedure used to remove the aneurysm is known as "hypothermic
cardiac arrest" or "standstill."
Pam's body temperature was lowered to 60 degrees, her heartbeat and
breathing were stopped, her brain waves were flattened, and all the
blood was drained from her head. For all practical purposes, she was
put to death. After removing the aneurysm, she was restored to
life. But, during the time that Pam was in standstill, she
experienced a profound NDE. Her remarkably detailed veridical
out-of-body observations of her surgery were later verified to be
very accurate. Pam's case is considered to be one of the strongest
cases of veridical perception evidence in NDE research because of
her ability to describe the unique surgical instruments and
procedures used and her ability to describe in detail these events
while she was clinically and brain dead. The following is the
out-of-body aspect of her NDE in her own words:
The
next thing I recall was the sound: It was a Natural "D." As
I listened to the sound, I felt it was pulling me out of the
top of my head. The further out of my body I got, the more
clear the tone became. I had the impression it was like a
road, a frequency that you go on ... I remember seeing
several things in the operating room when I was looking
down. It was the most aware that I think that I have ever
been in my entire life ...I was metaphorically sitting on
[the doctor's] shoulder. It was not like normal vision. It
was brighter and more focused and clearer than normal vision
... There was so much in the operating room that I didn't
recognize, and so many people. |
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I thought the way they had my head shaved was very peculiar.
I expected them to take all of the hair, but they did not
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The saw-thing that I hated the sound of looked like an
electric toothbrush and it had a dent in it, a groove at the
top where the saw appeared to go into the handle, but it
didn't ... And the saw had interchangeable blades, too, but
these blades were in what looked like a socket wrench case
... I heard the saw crank up. I didn't see them use it on my
head, but I think I heard it being used on something. It was
humming at a relatively high pitch and then all of a sudden
it went Brrrrrrrrr! like that. |
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Someone said something about my veins and arteries being
very small. I believe it was a female voice and that it was
Dr. Murray, but I'm not sure. She was the cardiologist. I
remember thinking that I should have told her about that ...
I remember the heart-lung machine. I didn't like the
respirator ... I remember a lot of tools and instruments
that I did not readily recognize. |
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There was a sensation like being pulled, but not against
your will. I was going on my own accord because I wanted to
go. I have different metaphors to try to explain this. It
was like the Wizard of Oz - being taken up in a tornado
vortex, only you're not spinning around like you've got
vertigo. You're very focused and you have a place to go. The
feeling was like going up in an elevator real fast. And
there was a sensation, but it wasn't a bodily, physical
sensation. It was like a tunnel but it wasn't a tunnel. |
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[Pam meets her deceased relatives and then must return to
her body.] But then I got to the end of it and saw the
thing, my body. I didn't want to get into it ... It looked
terrible, like a train wreck. It looked like what it was:
dead. I believe it was covered. It scared me and I didn't
want to look at it. It was communicated to me that it was
like jumping into a swimming pool. No problem, just jump
right into the swimming pool. I didn't want to, but I guess
I was late or something because he [the uncle] pushed me. I
felt a definite repelling and at the same time a pulling
from the body. The body was pulling and the tunnel was
pushing ... It was like diving into a pool of ice water ...
It hurt! When I came back, they were playing Hotel
California and the line was "You can check out anytime you
like, but you can never leave." I mentioned [later] to Dr.
Brown that that was incredibly insensitive and he told me
that I needed to sleep more. (Pam
Reynolds) |
Dr. Charles Tart: One of the most
interesting cases of veridical evidence comes from the research of Dr.
Charles Tart, one of the leading experts in consciousness studies. He
documented the experience of a test subject who had an out-of-body
experience and brought back a random 5-digit number
set at a distance from her body. However, at that particular time,
he wasn't using the strict scientific controls required to
provide conclusive scientific evidence for veridical
perception.
Nevertheless, it certainly is compelling circumstantial evidence
suggestive of veridical observation. This kind of research is very promising for
those who believe in the afterlife hypothesis
of NDEs. Dr. Tart's research shows how using randomly generated messages in emergency
rooms is well worth doing today.
Rev. George Rodonaia: In Dr.
Raymond
Moody's documentary entitled, Life
After Life, he interviewed a Russian scientist named Dr.
George
Rodonaia, who had a near-death experience during which he observed an infant crying in a nearby room.
George observed that no one
could figure out why the infant was crying so persistently. But George
learned while out of his body that the infant had a broken arm.
When George returned to life, he told the infant's parents about the
broken arm. An x-ray revealed that the infant's arm was indeed broken. This same incident is documented in Dr. Melvin Morse's book
(along with Paul Perry) called Transformed
by the Light. The following excerpt from
"Transformed by the Light" describes George's observation of
this infant while he was out of his body. Note that in Dr. Morse's book,
he refers to George by his Russian name
"Yuri".
[During
his NDE and while outside of his body], Yuri could go visit his
family. He saw his grieving wife and their two sons, both too small
to understand that their father had been killed. Then he visited his
next-door neighbor. |
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They had a new child, born a couple of days before Yuri's
death. Yuri could tell that they were upset by what happened to him. But they were especially distressed by the fact that their child would not stop crying. |
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No matter what they did he continued to cry. When he slept it was short and fitful and then he would awaken, crying again. They had taken him back to the doctors but they were stumped. All the usual things such as colic were ruled out and they sent them home hoping the baby would eventually settle down. |
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While there in this disembodied state, Yuri discovered something: |
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"l could talk to the baby. It was amazing. I could not talk to the parents - my friends - but I could talk to the little boy who had just been born. I asked him what was wrong. No words were exchanged, but I asked him maybe through telepathy what was wrong. He told me that his arm hurt. And when he told me that, I was able to see that the bone was twisted and broken." |
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Eventually the doctor from Moscow came to perform the autopsy on Yuri. When they moved his body from the cabinet to a gurney, his eyes flickered. The doctor became suspicious and examined his eyes. When they responded to light, he was immediately wheeled to emergency surgery and saved. |
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Yuri told his family about being "dead." No one believed him until he began to provide details about what he saw during his travels out of body. Then they became less skeptical. His diagnosis on the baby next door did the trick. He told of visiting them that night and of their concern over their new child. He told them that he had talked to the baby and discovered that he had a greenstick fracture of his arm. The parents took the child to a doctor and he x-rayed the arm only to discover that Yuri's very long-distance diagnosis was right.
(Rev.
George Rodonaia) |

Dr. Pim van Lommel: In January of 2001, near-death experiences and near-death research earned greater scientific respect and credibility when the findings of a particular NDE study were published. The distinguished British medical journal The Lancet
published an article by Dr. Pim van Lommel of the Rijnstate Hospital in the Netherlands on the first large-scale study of NDEs which he conducted. His study began in 1988 and lasted 13 years. It included 344 survivors of cardiac arrest from 10 Dutch hospitals. Of these 344 survivors, 18 percent experienced a NDE. And because Lommel and his staff conducted follow-up interviews with these patients over many years, they were able to rule out such factors as apoxia, seizures, medication, etc. Lommel's findings confirmed prior research findings conducted by other near-death researchers. It
confirmed that NDEs are real and they cannot be explained by physiological or psychological causes alone. Lommel also accepted the implication that consciousness survives death and that consciousness is not completely dependant upon the brain.
Lommel noted that only 10 seconds after the heart stops beating, the electroencephalogram goes dead. At this point, there is no activity in the brain cortex and the brain cannot manufacture visions. Within 10 minutes, brain stem activity ceases and irreparable brain damage can occur. However, Lommel notes that some patients still reported being conscious at this point. One particular example cited by Lommel is a man who came into the hospital already blue from a lack of oxygen. The hospital staff spent 90 minutes trying to resuscitate him, using artificial respiration, heart massage and defibrillation, before they could move him to intensive care where he was remained in a coma for a week with brain damage. But when the patient regained consciousness, he was able to describe events that occurred around him while he was brain damaged and out of his body. This veridical evidence comes from a coronary-care-unit nurse who reported the veridical out-of-body experience of the comatose patient:
During a night shift an ambulance brings in a 44-year-old cyanotic, comatose man into the coronary care unit. He had been found about an hour before in a meadow by passers-by. After admission, he receives artificial respiration without
intubation, while heart massage and defibrillation are also applied. When we wanted to intubate the patient, he turns out to have dentures in his mouth. I remove these upper dentures and put them onto the
crash car. Meanwhile, we continue extensive CPR. After about an hour and a half the patient has sufficient heart rhythm and blood pressure, but he is still ventilated and
intubated, and he is still comatose. He is transferred to the intensive care unit to continue the necessary artificial respiration. Only after more than a week do I meet again with the patient, who is by now back on the cardiac ward. I distribute his medication. The moment he sees me he says: |
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"Yes, you were there when I was brought into hospital and you took my dentures out of my mouth and put them onto that car, it had all these bottles on it and there was this sliding drawer underneath and there you put my
teeth." |
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I was especially amazed because I remembered this happening while the man was in deep coma and in the process of CPR. When I asked further, it appeared the man had seen himself lying in bed, that he had perceived from above how nurses and doctors had been busy with CPR. He was also able to describe correctly and in detail the small room in which he had been resuscitated as well as the appearance of those present like myself. At the time that he observed the situation he had been very much afraid that we would stop CPR and that he would die. And it is true that we had been very negative about the patient's prognosis due to his very poor medical condition when admitted. The patient tells me that he desperately and unsuccessfully tried to make it clear to us that he was still alive and that we should continue CPR. He is deeply impressed by his experience and says he is no longer afraid of death.
Four weeks later he left hospital as a healthy man." (Dr.
Pim Van Lommel) |

Jane Seymour: The famous movie actress who starred
in the television series "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman," describes the following
out-of-body experience during her NDE:
I literally left my body. I had this feeling that I could see myself on the bed, with people grouped around me. I remember them all trying to resuscitate me. I was above them, in the corner of the room looking down. I saw people putting needles in me, trying to hold me down, doing things.
(Jane
Seymour)
Vicki Umipeg: In Dr. Kenneth Ring's
book
Mindsight
he documents his research concerning NDEs in people born blind.
One of his subjects, Vicki Umipeg, told Dr. Ring that she found herself floating above her body in the emergency room of a hospital following an automobile accident
and saw for the first time in her life. She was aware of being up near the ceiling watching a male doctor and a female nurse working on her body, which she viewed from her elevated position. Vicki has a clear recollection of how she came to the realization that this was her own body below her.
I knew it was me ...I was pretty thin then. I was quite tall and thin at that point. And I recognized at first that it was a body, but I didn't even know that it was mine initially. Then I perceived that I was up on the ceiling, and I thought, 'Well, that's kind of weird. What am I doing up here?' I thought, 'Well, this must
be me. Am I dead? ...' I just briefly saw this body, and ... I knew that it was mine because I wasn't in mine. |
In addition, she was able to note certain further identifying features indicating that the body she was observing was certainly her own:
I think I was wearing the plain gold band on my right ring finger
and my father's wedding ring next to it. But my wedding ring I
definitely saw ... That was the one I noticed the most because it's
most unusual. It has orange blossoms on the corners of it. (Vicki
Umipeg) |
Brad Steiger: The author of the NDE book One
with the Light experienced the following event during his NDE:
On an August day in 1947, 11-year-old Brad Steiger
nearly died of multiple skull fractures after being caught in the
metallic blades of a piece of machinery on his family's Iowa farm.
He felt his "essential self" drift away from his body. He watched
his sister run for help and realized he was simultaneously in his
father's arms being carried from the field, and above himself,
observing. (Brad
Steiger) |
Dannion Brinkley: In his book,
Saved by the Light, Dannion Brinkley describes the following:
I
began to look around, to roll over in midair. Below me was my own
body, thrown across the bed. My shoes were smoking and the telephone
was melted in my hand. I could see Sandy run into the room. She
stood over the bed and looked at me with a dazed expression, the
kind you might find on the parent of a child found floating facedown
in a swimming pool. (Dannion
Brinkley) |

Dr. Kenneth Ring:
In a paper published in the
Journal of Near-Death Studies concerning
veridical NDE evidence, Dr. Ken Ring included perhaps the most famous case of
veridical observation in NDE research at that time. Kimberly
Clark Sharp first documented the NDE of a woman named Maria in her book,
After The
Light. Maria was a migrant worker who, while visiting friends in Seattle, had
a severe heart attack. She was rushed to Harborview Hospital and placed in the
coronary care unit.A few days later, she had a cardiac arrest and an unusual out-of-body experience. At one point in this experience, she found herself outside the
hospital and spotted a single tennis shoe on the ledge of the north side of the
third floor of the building. Maria not only was able to indicate the whereabouts of
this oddly situated object, but was able to provide precise details concerning its
appearance, such as that its little toe area was worn and one of its laces was stuck
underneath its heel. Upon hearing Maria's story, Clark, with some considerable
degree of skepticism and metaphysical misgiving, went to the location described to
see whether any such shoe could be found. Indeed it was, just where and precisely as
Maria had described it, except that from the window through which Clark was able to
see it, the details of its appearance that Maria had specified could not be
discerned. Clark concluded:
The only
way she could have had such a perspective was if she had been
floating right outside and at very close range to the tennis shoe. I
retrieved the shoe and brought it back to Maria; it was very
concrete evidence for me. (Clark, 1984, p. 243). |
Dr. Kenneth Ring:
A study on veridical perception in NDEs was conducted by
Dr. Ken Ring and
Madeline
Lawrence. It included
the 1985 account of
Kathy Milne
who was working as a nurse at Hartford Hospital. Milne had already
been interested in NDEs, and one day found herself talking to a
woman who had been resuscitated and who had a NDE. Following a
telephone interview with Ken Ring on August 24, 1992, she described the
following account in a letter:
She told me how she floated up over her body, viewed the resuscitation effort for a
short time and then felt herself being pulled up through several floors of the
hospital. She then found herself above the roof and realized she was looking at the
skyline of Hartford. She marveled at how interesting this view was and out of the
corner of her eye she saw a red object. It turned out to be a shoe ... [S]he thought
about the shoe... and suddenly, she felt "sucked up" a blackened hole. The rest of
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I was relating this to a [skeptical] resident who in a mocking manner left.
Apparently, he got a janitor to get him onto the roof. When I saw him later than
day, he had a red shoe and he became a believer, too." (K. Milne, personal
communication, October 19,1992) |
After Dr. Ring's initial interview with Milne, he made a point of inquiring whether
she had ever heard of the case of Maria's shoe [as described in the introduction
above]. Not only was she unfamiliar with it, but she was utterly amazed to hear of
another story so similar to the one she had just recounted to Dr. Ring. It remains
an unanswered question as to how these isolated shoes arrived at their unlikely
perches for later viewing by astonished NDErs and their baffled
investigators.
Joyce Harmon:
In the summer of 1982, Joyce
Harmon, a surgical intensive care unit (ICU) nurse at
Hartford Hospital, returned to work after a vacation. On that vacation she had
purchased a new pair of plaid shoelaces, which she happened to be wearing on her
first day back at the hospital. That day, she was involved in resuscitating a
patient, a woman she didn't know, by giving her medicine. The resuscitation was
successful and the next day Harmon chanced to see the patient, whereupon they had a
conversation, the gist of which (not necessarily a verbatim account) is as follows:
The patient, upon seeing Harmon, volunteered, "Oh, you're the one with the plaid
shoelaces!" |
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"What?" Harmon replied, astonished. She says she distinctly remembers feeling the
hair on her neck rise. |
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"I saw them," the woman continued. "I was watching what was happening yesterday when
I died. I was up above."
(J. Harmon, personal communication, August 28, 1992) |
Sue Saunders: In the late 1970s, Sue Saunders was working at Hartford Hospital as a respiratory
therapist. One day she was helping to resuscitate a 60-ish man in the emergency room
whose electrocardiogram had gone flat. Medics were shocking him repeatedly with no
results. Saunders was trying to give him oxygen. In the middle of the resuscitation, someone else took over for her and she left.
A couple of days later, she encountered this patient in the ICU. He spontaneously
commented:
"You looked so much better in your yellow top." |
She, like Harmon, was so shocked at this remark that she got goose-bumps, for she
had been wearing a yellow smock the previous day.
"Yeah," the man continued, "I saw you. You had something over your face and you were
pushing air into me. And I saw your yellow smock." (S. Saunders,
personal communication, August 28, 1992) |
Saunders confirmed that she had had something over her face - a mask - and that she
had worn the yellow smock while trying to give him oxygen, while he was unconscious
and without a heartbeat.
The three cases presented above briefly attest to these three important observations:
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Patients who claim to have out-of-body experiences while near-death sometimes
describe unusual objects that they could not have known about by normal means. |
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These objects can later be shown to have existed in the form and location
indicated by the patients' testimony. |
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Hearing this testimony has a strong emotional and cognitive effect on the
caregivers involved, either strengthening their pre-existing belief in the
authenticity of NDE accounts or occasioning a kind of on-the-spot
conversion. |
Source: Ring, Kenneth, Ph.d. & Lawrence, Madeline, R.N., Ph.D. "Further evidence for veridical perception during near-death experiences", Journal of Near-Death Studies, 1993 11 (4)223-229

Dr. PMH Atwater: The following is one of P.M.H. Atwater's case studies from her book Beyond
the Light which is not only veridical, it is highly
suggestive of the survival of consciousness after death. Atwater has
stated that this testimonial has been verified by relatives of the experiencer involved. Here is the excerpt:
I spoke of Margaret Fields Kean who nearly died in 1978 after being
hospitalized for about three weeks with severe phlebitis. A blood
clot had passed to her heart and lungs and she became deathly ill.
Then she was given injections for nausea that, due to the blood
thinners she had previously received, caused internal hemorrhaging.
Pandemonium reigned as she slipped away. While absent from her body,
she witnessed the scene below her, then heard and saw people in the
waiting room down the hall - right through the walls - as well as
nurses at their station. She also knew their thoughts.
Margaret went on to have a transcendent near-death experience in
which she instantly knew and understood many things; her future, and
that she would become a healer. This completely contradicted her
vision of herself at that moment in her life, for she was content
being a super-mom farm wife who rode horses, taught Bible classes,
led 4-H and Girl Scout groups, gardened, canned, and baked bread. A
healer? Ridiculous!
Yet, when Margaret revived, she immediately began to heal other
patients in the room around her by "reaching out" to them. Then, she
"projected" into the isolation room of a white boy charred black by
severe burns. She "sat" next to him on the bed, introduced herself,
and proceeded to counsel him about his purpose in life. She told him
it was okay if he chose to die as God was loving and he had nothing
to fear.
Months later, while continuing her recovery and still in great pain,
Margaret was attending a horse show when a couple, hearing the
loudspeaker announce her daughter's name as a winner, sought her
out. They were parents of the severely burned boy. Before he died,
he had told them about meeting Margaret and relayed all the
wonderful truths she had told him about God and about life. The
parents were thrilled to have finally located her so they could say
thanks for what she had done for their son. The dying boy had
identified her by name - even though the two had never physically
seen each other or verbally spoken in any manner, nor had any nurse
known that the two had ever communicated, nor had it been possible
that Margaret ever could have known if the isolation room was even
occupied much less who might be there. (Dr. PMH
Atwater)
Lynn:
"The next thing I knew I was floating around the ceiling looking down
on my body. My chest was open wide and I could see my internal
organs. I remember thinking how odd it was that my organs were a
beautiful pearl gray, not at all like the bright red chucks in the
horror flicks I loved to watch. I also noticed there was a black
doctor and an Oriental one on the operating team. The reason this
stuck in my mind is that I was brought up in a very white
middle-class neighborhood, and I had seen black schoolteachers but
never a black doctor. I'd met the operating team the day before, but
they were all white.
"Suddenly, I had to move on, so I floated into the waiting room,
where my parents were. My father had his head buried in my mother's
lap. He was kneeling at her feet, his arms wrapped around her waist,
and he was sobbing. My mother was stroking his head, whispering to
him. This scene shocked me, as my father was not prone to showing
emotions. Once I realize they would be fine, I felt myself pulled
into a horizontal tunnel." (Lynn)
[Webmaster's note: In P.M.H. Atwater's book, Children
of the New Millennium, she
documents how Lynn's veridical observations during her near-death
experience were later proven to be true, including the black and
Asian doctors on the operating team.]
Dr. PMH Atwater: "The pain ebbed by
as I rose steadily upward, again stopping at the light fixture, only
this time in the living room. I looked down, recognizing the body on
the floor as mine. There was no confusion this time. My situation
was clearly defined. Good God, I'm dead! Time and space ended for
me after gazing for what seemed endless minutes at my body. It made
no movement. There was no breathing. No response. When I was
satisfied that it was dead, there came a joyous euphoria, like a
prisoner being released from a long jail sentence. I danced and
danced around the light bulb, singing like a child. It was finally
over. I was free." (Dr. PMH
Atwater)

Robert Pastorelli:
"I was in excruciating pain. Then, in the next second, there was no
pain. Suddenly I realized I was out of my body. I was floating above
myself, looking down at my unconscious body lying in the hospital
emergency room with my eyes closed. I could see tubes down my nose
and throat. I knew I was dying and I thought, "Well, this must be
death." I even saw a priest giving me the last rites. But it was the
most peaceful feeling in the world. Then I saw my father starting to
faint out of grief. Two nurses grabbed him and sat him down in a
chair across the room."
"When I looked down and saw my father's pain it had an effect on me.
I firmly believe that at that moment I made a decision to live, not
die. The next thing I knew I was waking up back in my body. Later,
in the recovery room, when I was fully conscious, I told my father
what had happened, his fainting and all. He was astounded." (Robert
Pastorelli)
Chris Taylor:
"On September 1993, I was at Papworth Hospital having my aortic
valve replaced. I left my body and watched the surgeon operating on
me. He was a bit of a maverick and had a red and white check head
cover. He was listening to Meat Loaf's "Bat out of hell" and
invisible drumming to it. He splashed some blood on one of
the nurses. She got angry.
"I asked him about this and he confirmed it by stating that I could
not have seen this due to the screen around my face.
"On November 2001, I rushed back to Papworth with a dissecting aorta
which is usually fatal. My son had seen me have the attack and my
profound pain. He was scared and had tears streaming down his face.
He made me promise that I would not die. I promised him.
"I underwent 10 hours of emergency surgery at the end of which my
heart failed to spontaneously restart. The surgeon manually
manipulated my heart for 26 minutes. At some stage in the procedure
I left my body with a whooshing sound. I then was floating toward a
bright light. All around me was a gray cloud-type thick fog. It
had texture. The closer I approached the light I became aware of a
fundamental sense of purity. I could feel my pain falling away. I
became aware of PURE LOVE, peace, tranquility. I could hear voices
that were welcoming me without speaking specific words; but, I
understood that this was natural and normal. I also knew that I
was leaving the two people I love the most - my wife and son.
"I was then aware of my son to my left sitting on a chair and sobbing
into his hands. My wife walked up to him to comfort him. He said he
was scared and my wife assured him I was strong and would live. He
calmly said, "I'm not scared of Dad dying. I know he will not die.
He promised me and DAD ALWAYS KEEPS HIS PROMISES."
"I then painfully zipped back into my body. Imagine being cold and
wet, longing for a warm shower. Imagine taking off those cold wet
clothes and getting into the shower. Now imagine getting back into
the clothes. Got the message?
"When I came to, 28 hours later, my wife was told I was in a coma
and brain dead. I was so angry for days. I was angry I had lived.
That may sound weird but that is, in brief, my story.
"Two things: This experience has left me feeling over powered
spiritually. Secondly, I am a Police Inspector and not prone to
flights of fancy." (Chris Taylor)
David Goines:
"I remember the fear of impact (getting hit), however, I have no
recollection of the impact or having my body become totally
integrated with the bicycle, nor hurtling over sixty feet through
the air and landing in the canal. My next memory was quite a scene
in the hospital emergency room. It was the most unique experience of
my earthly life. Unique, because I was observing my own body in the
emergency room and all the activity going on, except that I was not
in my body. I was above it all - looking down. I was feeling no
pain.
"Everyone was very busy. I knew by their activity that I was in
serious trouble. There was much discussion about how to extract me
from the tangled wreckage of my bike and/or whether they would need
to leave me in it until I was stabilized enough to try. I could see
and hear everything. It was gruesome. It was frightening. They
finally decided they had me stable enough to get rid of the bike and
they called for a welding specialist to bring a torch to help cut me
out of the bike. Thank God my body seemed to be unconscious. All of
this would have been quite enough for my young mind to endure -
until one nurse, whom I knew, said to another, "Well - it certainly
makes you wonder if it is worth saving this mess."
"She nearly scared me to death! At that moment, it was more than I
could stand above and watch. I wanted to run away from this scene. I
needed to escape. Quickly, I turned, took one step through the wall
so to speak and found myself in total darkness." (David
Goines)

David Oakford: "I called out to my friends and nobody came. I tried to unplug the
stereo but that did not work either. Every time I tried to touch the
cord to unplug it I could not grasp it. It just kept on playing "LA
Woman" and the sound rattled my very being.
"I ran all over the house calling for my friends, yelling repeatedly
that the music was too loud but I was not heard. I pleaded for the
music to be turned down. I tried to go outside but I could not feel
the doorknob. I could see the daylight outside but could not go
outside. I ended up hiding in the bathroom in an unsuccessful
attempt to escape the noise. I looked in the mirror and could not
see myself. That frightened me greatly.
"I went back into the family room and saw my body sitting in the
chair. It looked like I was sleeping. I wondered how I could be
looking at myself. I got a bit scared then because I could see me
from outside of me, from all different angles except from the inside
angle I was used to seeing myself.
"I was alone. I was confused and very scared. I tried to get back
into my body but could not. I could not touch the ground either. I
was floating. I rose up into a spot above my body and kind of just
hung there. I could no longer move. I called out for help and nobody
came. I tried to go out the door but like the stereo I could not
touch the doorknob." (David Oakford)
Janet: "Anyway, at that time I became conscious of seeing my body lying
there on the operating table, and I could hear the communication
that was going on between the surgeon and the staff. I could see it
all, but in a very detached sort of way." (Janet)
Valvita Jones: "Feeling so peaceful and free, I started moving upward. I realized my
body was below me, and I vaguely remember observing efforts by the
medical team to revive it. My main interest was that I was above the
room. I was not even in the room but in the first sky. I say first
sky in the heavens, because it seemed as though there were three
heavens that I passed through." (Valvita
Jones)
Laura: "After this infinite moment had passed,
there began a battle for my life between the angels in heaven and
the doctors on Earth. Every time the doctors pounded on my chest, my
spirit was sucked into my body for a split second, only to be pulled
back again by the angels. They held me by my feet, struggling to
keep me from coming back. Finally, the doctors pounded one last
time. I heard an angel say, "They're stronger than we are," and I
was sucked back into my body, sat up, screamed, and passed out." (Laura)
Caroline Sharp: "It is now almost 34 years ago, but with amazing clarity, I can
remember the emotions I went through as I hovered above my body. It
was a total euphoric happiness. Feeling totally unconcerned and
faintly amused, I watched the two nurses and doctor working to
resuscitate my lifeless body. I could relate with extreme clarity
the actions they took in this procedure." (Caroline
Sharp)
Mrs. Walters: "When I had my first child I had
the experience of being out of my body and hovering above it
attached to a thick cord. I could see myself on the bed and the
doctor who was in a panic. I could also see the nurse and the
instruments on a trolley in the corner of the room. The only way I
could have seen the instrument was from the angle I was in. I would
not have been able to see them from the bed. I remember thinking it
was wonderful to be free of that cumbersome body and not really
caring what happened to it." (Mrs.
Walters)
Randy Gehling: "I didn't really know what had hit me. I just seemed to go flying
through the air. And then a really funny thing happened. A part of
me - I guess my soul - just kept flying, and I saw my body smash
into the ground. I knew it had to hurt to land that hard, so I was
happy that I was where I was - wherever that was. When I got a
little higher, I saw that it had been Kurt's car that had hit me. I
always told him that he drove too fast in the neighborhood." (Randy
Gehling)
Jeanie Dicus: "I was floating above my body. I saw green shower caps. The people in
the room all wore those stupid caps. There were five or six caps and
they were panicky. Their fear was so thick I could feel it. I kept
thinking, "Hey, I'm okay, don't worry," but they didn't get my
message. This was a little frustrating. I found myself in the
right-hand corner of the room. I lifted my arm and stretched. I had
been immobile for so long. It felt like I had taken off a body
girdle, and it was so delicious to get out of that cramped body." (Jeanie
Dicus)

Peter Sellers: "Well, I felt myself leave my body. I just floated out of my physical
form and I saw them cart my body away to the hospital. I went with
it." (Peter Sellers)
Elaine Durham: "When I got to the hospital, it
was not as if I was on the gurney look up, but I was moving, not
necessarily walking, but I was at eye level along the right side of
the gurney. And there was my body on it, but I did not have any
relationship at all to that body." (Elaine
Durham)
An accountant: "The next thing I remember was looking down on my body in the
intensive care unit. I don't know how I got in there, but they were
working on me. There was this young doctor in a white coat and two
nurses and a black fellow in a white uniform and he was doing most
of the work on me. This black fellow was shoving down on my chest
and someone else was breathing for me and they were yelling to get
this and that!' I learned later that this black fellow was a male
nurse on the ward. I had never seen him before. I even remember the
black bow tie he was wearing. Next thing I remember was going
through this dark passage." (An
accountant)
Helen: "I remember clearly floating up above myself, and looking down on my
body. It was connected to numerous machines. I could see the drip
and the oxygen mask. I could see the doctors working to restart my
heart with electronic pads. I could see that my parents were there.
It felt very peaceful, much better than where I had been before. I
was bathed in warmth and light, and the calm was almost tangible. I
felt it was up to me to decide where I wanted to be, up there or
back in my body, but the peace was so overwhelming that I knew I
wanted to stay." (Helen)
Kimberly Clark Sharp: "I was going back. I knew it. I was already on the way. I was on a
trajectory headed straight for my body. That's when I saw my body
for the first time, and when I realized I was no longer a part of
it. Until this moment, I'd only seen myself straight on, as we
usually do, in mirrors and photographs. Now I was jolted by the
strange sight of me in profile from four feet away. I looked at my
body, the body I knew so well, and was surprised by my detachment. I
felt the same sort of gratitude toward my body that I had for my old
winter coat when I put it away in the spring. It had served me well,
but I no longer needed it. I had absolutely no attachment to it.
Whatever constituted the self I knew as me was no longer there. My
essence, my consciousness, my memories, my personality were outside,
not in, that prison of flesh." (Kimberly
Clark Sharp)
Carter Mills:
A massive load of compressed cardboard Carter Mills was loading,
slipped out of control, slamming him against a steel pole. He
remembers a sharp pain, collapsing, being in a black void, then
finding himself floating in a prone position twelve feet above his
crumpled body. He saw and heard people running around, yelling for
an ambulance and saying, "Don't touch him, give him air."
His body went from white to blue; there was no breath. The sight
filled him with awe. "I'm here, my body is there. How did this
happen?" Not understanding how he could suddenly be airborne, Carter
attempted to reenter his body. Crawling downward in swim-like
strokes, he had almost reached his goal when a gentle but firm hand
tugged his right arm. When he looked up, there were two angels
replete with robes, wings, bare feet, and streaming hair - no color
but opaque white - and no particular gender. (Carter
Mills)
John Star: "Suddenly the world was calm and clear. I could see the shoreline,
still in the distance and noticed the sun shining overhead. It
seemed brighter than usual. When I looked down I got the surprise of
my life. There was my body, still swimming toward shore, moving as
straight and smooth as a motor boat. I watched for a while,
indifferent to the plight of my body. I was far more concerned with
trying to figure out where I was." (John
Star)

Dr. Liz Dale's research subject: "Immediately
after the impact from falling forward onto the metal grating, I felt
myself floating up, out of my body, and hovering above my body and
all the people who were watching it, and who seemed paralyzed by
shock and horror at what had happened. I think they pretty much
assumed that I was dead. I remember looking down and seeing my body
three-dimensionally for the first time. And it was such a shock,
because we never see ourselves except in a one-dimensional mirror
reflection, or a photograph. But I felt no pain at all; I felt
completely whole and free, and I thought, "This is who I really am."
"I saw my physical body, all crumpled and bloody and lifeless; and
this enormous wave of compassion washed over me and I wanted to tell
all of the bystanders that everything was going to be OK and not to
be sad or alarmed.
"Then suddenly I felt myself being pulled, literally at the speed of
light, farther from the physical Earth, and I saw all of the people
on the planet simultaneously in that one moment. I saw people in
China and Sweden and Uruguay; I saw people sleeping and dreaming; I
saw people preparing food in their homes and in restaurants; people
traveling in all manner of transportation, to and from work and
school and appointments; I saw children playing together, and
bankers and teachers and factory workers at their jobs. I saw
mothers giving birth to children, which was especially beautiful and
moving to me." (Dr. Liz Dale)
Michael: "And then something exited my chest. Its hard to describe exactly
what it was or what it felt like but it was a real presence, a
definite feeling. Perhaps terms like "life force" or "energy" come
closest to trying to describe what it was, but it seemed to contain
my personality as well. Again, its extremely difficult to describe
except that it was a real sensation of something immaterial leaving
my physical body. This "force", for lack of a better word, then
positioned itself in the corner of the bathroom ceiling (the
bathroom was in darkness) and I stared down on my own motionless
body, skinny and frail and apparently lifeless. This force which
seemed to contain something of me certainly an awareness that "I"
was no longer in my body, then moved at an amazing speed through
somewhere black, like space in its vastness." (Michael)
Rev.
Howard Storm: "For a time there was a sense of being unconscious or asleep. I'm not
sure how long it lasted, but I felt really strange, and I opened my
eyes. To my surprise I was standing up next to the bed, and I was
looking at my body laying in the bed.
"My first reaction was, "This is crazy! I can't be standing here
looking down at myself. That's not possible."
"This wasn't what I expected, this wasn't right. Why was I still
alive? I wanted oblivion. Yet I was looking at a thing that was my
body, and it just didn't have that much meaning to me. Now knowing
what was happening, I became upset. I started yelling and screaming
at my wife, and she just sat there like a stone. She didn't look at
me, she didn't move and I kept screaming profanities to get her to
pay attention. Being confused, upset, and angry, I tried to get the
attention of my room-mate, with the same result. He didn't react.
"I wanted this to be a dream, and I kept saying to myself, "This has
got to be a dream." But I knew that it wasn't a dream. I became
aware that strangely I felt more alert, more aware, more alive than
I had ever felt in my entire life. All my senses were extremely
acute. Everything felt tingly and alive. The floor was cool and my
bare feet felt moist and clammy. This had to be real." (Rev.
Howard Storm)
Grace Bubulka: "I was then looking down from above the left foot area of my bed. The
distance from my bed was as though I was against the ceiling corner.
I could see the backs of the staff to the left of my bed and the
faces of my doctors and the Filipino nurse. I was exasperated with
them and with my futile attempt to connect with them. I had no
strong feelings about my body lying on the bed. It was almost
unfamiliar to me." (Grace Bubulka)
Nadia McCaffrey: "I was out of my body. I floated there for awhile, and looked down at
lifeless body on the gurney. However, the real me had become a
comfortable glowing shape. For a while, I watched on as the nurses
and doctors worked quickly to revive me. Then, I lost interest and
my attention turned towards a long dark tunnel." (Nadia McCaffrey)

Laurelynn Martin: "I awakened and found myself floating above my body, off to the right
side, looking down, watching the attempts of the medical team trying
to revive the lifeless form below. I viewed the scene with
detachment. The surgical team was frantic. The color red was
everywhere, splattered on their gowns, splattered on the floor, and
a bright pool of a flowing red substance, in the now wide open
abdominal cavity. At that moment, I didn't make the connection that
the body being worked on was my own! It didn't matter anyway. I was
in a state of floating freedom, experiencing no pain and having a
great time. I wanted to shout to the distressed people below, "Hey,
I'm okay. It's fantastic up here," but they were so intent on their
work, I didn't want to interrupt their efforts. I had traveled to
another realm of total and absolute peace. With no physical body my
movement was unencumbered. Thought was the avenue for travel. I
floated up through blackness where there was no fear, no pain, no
misunderstandings, but instead a sense of well-being. I was
enveloped by total bliss in an atmosphere of unconditional love and
acceptance." (Laurelynn Martin)
Ida Acosta: "I was drifting in and out of my
body, from darkness into light, simultaneously. There were sounds
demanding that I leave my wonderful bliss to come back to life.
Doctors calling my name. I looked upon it all with a strange
indifference. And I could see myself. I could hear a machine
beeping. People were slapping me, shaking me, tossing me around,
sticking things into me, and I just didn't care. I was in bliss and
I really just wanted to die, because at that moment I realized there
was no death. It was exactly like drifting into the best sleep
ever." (Ida Acosta)
Ricky Randolph: "I felt myself leaving my body. I was floating a few feet in the air
above the river. I looked on my body with mixed feelings. I was
bleeding from my mouth, nose, ears, and saw a trickle of blood
underneath me on the boulder. As I was reflecting on the state of my
body, I felt a pulling and began to rise very fast. I was traveling
at a high rate of speed upwards through the atmosphere." (Ricky
Randolph)
Rose A.: "On this one day I found that part of me had separated from my
physical body and had risen above my body to the ceiling. From
above, I saw myself lying face down on the carpeting. Everything was
so clear mentally and there was no pain; I sensed that the physical
body was that which felt pain, that which would also hamper one's
clarity of thinking. This other part of me, a spiritual me or a soul
me, was so much more at peace being outside of the physical me. I
knew that if my mother had entered the bedroom at that point, she
would not have gotten a response from my physical body, but I would
want her to know that everything was all right with me." (Rose
A.)
Beverly Brodsky: "I found myself floating on the ceiling over the bed looking down at
my unconscious body. I barely had time to realize the glorious
strangeness of the situation - that I was me but not in my body -
when I was joined by a radiant being bathed in a shimmering white
glow." (Beverly Brodsky)
Jan Price: "I remember being surprised as I observed the full heart arrest
taking place. I suppose we never really think of ourselves as dying,
but obviously I had died because I wasn't in my body anymore." (Jan
Price)
Norman Paulsen: "There is my body lying at the foot of the telephone pole, covered
with blankets. Without sensation, I enter it again. My eyes open to
see concerned faces looking down upon me." (Norman
Paulsen)

Josiane Antonette: "Am I outside myself observing? I see my body and its pain. I look at
my feet; they are pale and lifeless. My legs cannot move. My face is
white and drawn ... Now I'm on the hospital room ceiling gazing
down! Everything appears so small: I see my bed; my body looks small
and colorless; the people around the bed are tiny. Overwhelming
grief and sorrow fill the room, and yet I feel completely
disconnected from the scene below me. I hover nearer and look at the
strange form lying on the bed. I feel compassion beyond words. I
understand everything, but I have no feeling of attachment to
anyone. I look at each person standing at the bedside and feel
tremendous love. I want to say to them, "I'm all right. You don't
have to worry. I'm all right. Look at me! I'm fine!" (Josiane
Antonette)
Karen Floyd: "At this time, I had floated out of
my body. I was floating just below the ceiling of the car looking
down at myself on the seat of the car. I remember thinking how
strange it was that I was up here when my body was still on the car
seat! I could see my friend driving and looking back and talking to
me. I also noticed that I didn't feel bad anymore." (Karen
Floyd)
Sharon: "Sometime during the night I 'woke up' to find myself against the
ceiling. I was literally floating and I could see myself from the
chest up. I remember feeling no discomfort, such as heat or cold,
just a nice peaceful feeling. While I was wondering why I was able
to float against the ceiling, I looked down and saw myself sleeping
on my back. This was strange enough, but the strangest part was how
I thought of myself on the bed. I thought of myself in the
third-person. I remember distinctly thinking, "She is running out of
air" and "There is no oxygen in this room." I did not think this in
a state of panic, more like a peaceful concern for the body. The
next thing I knew, I was hurling toward my body." (Sharon)
Jerriann Massey: "Three times she fought her way through the murky water and surfaced
to suck air, she said. "The third time back under, I was out of my
body. It was like when you are wearing pants way too tight and you
take them off. Now, you can relax and breathe. That's what it felt
like. (Jerriann
Massey)
Alise: "At the height of the pain I left my body. I saw my body on the bed
and tried to communicate to those tending to it but finally gave up
and left out the roof of the hospital. I felt like a traitor as they
were working very hard on my body but I did not want it any more. I
did not want to go back. So I left very quickly and what was
foremost in my mind was that I knew exactly where to go. There was
no tunnel or light or anything, I just knew where to go and went.
Like going 'home'.
"Getting 'out' of my body was like going through a magnetic field.
Each magnet was attracted to the other and then to another and
another until the first was attracted to the last and then I was
free. I knew I had just gone through the elements of the Earth that
made up my physical body. This registered in my brain as pain but it
wasn't pain exactly but the process of going through the elements
and overcoming gravity." (Alise)
Cassandra Musgrave: As she began to drown,
Cassandra remembers entering into a kind of dream-like state she
feels was the beginning of her near-death experience. She states,
"All of a sudden, I was out of my body watching myself being pulled
along and thinking "This is really incredible. This is really quite
amazing. (Cassandra Musgrave)
Mr. Thermal: "Before we got into the cars we had
there, the lightening bolt came through a board in the side of the
barn and got me. I felt myself falling but it didn't hurt. Then I
noticed I was above myself looking down at me. My body was actually
smoking. I watched one guy jump from the wagon he was on, to the
ground. On his way over to me, it seemed like it took him 10 minutes
to land. Everyone was moving so slow. I was speaking out loud. I
could hear myself, but it seemed the others couldn't. I saw them
gathering around me trying to wake me up, but I was awake. I was
above them. I tried to look at my hands but couldn't see them. I
knew they were there. I could feel them move. And I could feel my
feet too, but again, my body was on the ground right beneath me." (Mr.
Thermal)
Elizabeth: "His smile was wide and bright, as he took hold of my left arm, and
we began to drift downward. It was comforting and safe to be with
him, as we passed by stars in the night sky, drifting through
clouds. I eventually could see my town and the top of my house. We
drifted through the roof, entering my bedroom. At the ceiling, I
noticed my daughter, still sleeping soundly. But then I noticed
something else; I noticed another body next to hers. When we reach
the floor, I realized it was my own. I was completely confused. He
gently lifted me, placing me back into my body. I immediately jumped
out of bed reaching for him. But by now, his light was escaping
through the window, until finally completely gone. I sat on the edge
of my bed, still engulfed with such joy. I took hold of my head,
saying over and over again in my mind, I will not forget, I will not
forget." (Elizabeth)
John Powell: "He then brought me again to this Earth. When I saw my body lying on
the bed I did not want to enter it again for I felt so happy out of
it that I could not bear the thought of entering it again, but he
said, "Enter," and I had to obey." (John
Powell)
Sherry Gideon: "The last thing that happened was when I watched my spirit descend
back into my body. I could suddenly see myself lying on my bed. I
could feel a light coming through the window that was so powerful
beyond words. As I watched my spirit return to this body on the bed.
I could hear the last words spoken to me: "You must help the world
to understand that they must give of themselves freely without
expecting and love is all there is!" (Sherry Gideon)
Bruce Budden: "I could see my body lying on the
lawn and a few cars and people around the scene ... The next thing I
recall is almost like energizing over top of my physical body. I
moved closer and was hovering a foot or so over my body. I then
slowly turned over and then started sinking down into my body. The
electrical energy of my spirit started flowing back into my physical
body. As I was doing this, this almost sense of transformation, the
feeling of being in the pure spirit form started changing to the
feelings of the earthly realm. There was a great sense of heaviness,
I felt the physical emotions starting to return, along with the
emotions of the human animal. The next thing I recall is opening my
eyes and seeing the lights of the cars around me and I looked around
to find the light I was just in front of but I couldn't find it.
Then it hit me, damn, I'm back. At that point I passed out." (Bruce Budden)

Rev. Kenneth Hagin: "My heart stopped beating. This numbness spread to my feet, my
ankles, my knees, my hips, my stomach, my heart and I leaped out
of my body. I did not lose consciousness; I leaped out of my body
like a diver would leap off a diving board into a swimming pool. I
knew I was outside my body. I could see my family in the room, but I
couldn't contact them. I began to descend down, down, into a pit,
like you'd go down into a well, cavern or cave ... Then, like a
suction from above, I floated up, head first, through the darkness.
Before I got to the top, I could see the light. I've been down in a
well: it was like you were way down in a well and could see the
light up above. I came up on the porch of my grandpa's house. Then I
went through the wall not through the door, and not through the
window through the wall, and seemed to leap inside my body like a
man would slip his foot inside his boot in the morning time. Before
I leaped inside my body, I could see my grandmother sitting on the
edge of the bed holding me in her arms. When I got inside my body, I
could communicate with her. "I felt myself slipping. I said,
"Granny, I'm going again. You've been a second mother to me when
Momma was ill." My heart stopped for a second time. I leaped out of
my body and began to descend: down, down, down ... And then I was
pulled up, head first. I could see the lights of the Earth above me
before I came up out of the pit. The only difference this time was
that I came up at the foot of the bed. For a second time I stood
there. I could see my body lying there on the bed. I could see
Grandma as she sat there holding me in her arms. [Kenneth says
goodbye to his family] I left a word for each one of them, and my
heart stopped the third time. I could feel the circulation as it cut
off. Suddenly my toes went numb. Faster than you can snap your
fingers, my toes, feet, ankles, knees, hips, stomach and heart went
dead and I leaped out of my body and began to descend ... [Hagin then enters his body again and recovers from his illness.]
(Rev. Kenneth Hagin)
Vicki Moyer: "During my experience, I was standing in a beautiful garden and saw
Jesus. He was sitting on a stone bench. We both were dressed in
biblical gown and wore sandals. Jesus let me see through a dimension
to where my body being operated on in surgery. I could see it. I
remember how I felt. I felt like my body was only a shell and that
it was not the true me. I felt like this was me, my soul. I remember
him letting me hear my friends and love ones pray for me." (Vicki
Moyer)
Habermas and Moreland's research:
Gary Habermas and J.P. Moreland documented two cases of veridical
perception in their book,
Immortality, The Other Side of Death.
The
first case was a young girl named Katie who nearly drowned in a
pool. After being resuscitated in the emergency room, a CAT scan
showed she had massive brain swelling. She was attached to an
artificial lung to keep her breathing and given a ten percent chance
of survival. Three days later, she completely recovered and told a
remarkable story. Though she had been
profoundly comatose, with her eyes closed throughout her entire
treatment, she gave exact details regarding the physical features of
her doctors, the hospital rooms in which she had been treated, and
the medical procedures her doctors employed to save her. Amazingly,
she was also able to describe, in minute detail, what her family was
doing at home, awaiting news of her status, while she lie in the
hospital! Then, Katie said she met Jesus and the heavenly Father.
Their second case involves a five-year-old boy named Rick who
suffered from meningitis. As Rick was rushed to the hospital in an
ambulance, he decided to stay behind. He later reported seeing his
father crying in the car while he drove the family to the hospital.
Rick then rushed to the hospital arriving before the ambulance. He
saw hospital orderlies move a young girl out of the room he would be
occupying. Rick's memories were corroborated by his family, and were
particularly amazing due to the
fact that he was comatose before he was taken in the ambulance and
for several days afterward. (Habermas
and Moreland)
Rexella Van Impe: The wife of television
evangelist Dr. Jack Van Impe,
Rexella, was injured in a car accident in Brussels in 1982.
She discovered herself outside of her body watching her husband
crying as he held her in his arms. The experience was told in their
video, Heaven: an Out-of-Body Adventure? [This videotape, produced
in 1992, is available through
JVI Ministries, POB 7004, Troy, MI,
USA 48007.]
Guenter Wagner: Suddenly it dawned on me that I was
out of my body. It must have happened the moment this oozing
stopped. I saw a body lying on the floor, which could only belong to
me. I was shivering and I quickly wanted to return to my body and
its warmth when I heard someone say:
Stop! Before going back, see what it is like outside!
However, I did not pay any attention to the voice. Although I could
not see any physical body but my own, this voice was quite near.
Then I heard it again, this time it was begging me very earnestly.
Please, do not go back, I beseech you. Why do you not want to
discover your new faculties first? You may still go back if you do
not like them.
I hesitated. After all, this voice was right. Why shouldn't I give
it a try? On that the voice said quickly:
Test your mind! If you do you will discover that you can think in a
way you have never experienced before.
The voice was right again. I could think very lucidly indeed, and I
was able to understand very quickly with a directness that did not
leave a trace of doubt. Then I heard the voice again:
If you are willing to stay outside of your body, you will make a
wonderful journey and you will see many interesting things. However,
you must decide quickly! So hurry up!
Eventually I began to consider the whole situation. It was really up
to me whether I wanted to return to my body and live the life on
Earth with all its limitations and with all its joy or to stay
outside in this condition of clear thinking. The voice again urged
me to hurry up and to tell him whether I had made up my mind. I gave
in. I decided to stay outside and I instantly realized that my body
had to die, meaning total destruction by decay. I thought to myself:
How sad for my mother!
As for me, I did not feel any regrets, because my body was now only
a wrapper to me, a burden of which I freed myself the moment I had
decided to stay outside. Presently I realized that I was able to
move freely about in a way I had never experienced before. I was
floating right through the walls of our house (I saw my mother in
front of the kitchen stove cooking a meal) and up into the sky. In
the distance, I saw a great shining ball, which was the sun. I felt
irresistibly attracted to it by its brightness and I wanted to go
right into it. No sooner had I thought this when I hit something
that catapulted me far out into blackness. I tried once more, but it
all happened again. I quickly learned that there had to be an
invisible barrier that I could only approach but not overcome.
Then the Being of Light was gone. One of the other beings brought me
back to Earth. I do not know how. I only heard, while being tucked
back into my body, a snapping sound like the sound that can be heard
when you put the lid on top of a mess tin securing it with the
catch. (Guenter Wagner)
Out-Of-Body Expansion of
Consciousness
Many NDE testimonies involve the experiencer describing how their consciousness expanded until
it fills the entire universe - even beyond. This phenomenon has been
described as literally becoming the universe by near-death
experiencers. This concept of a universal and transcendental
consciousness agrees with the
metaphysical notion of how the universe exerts an
influence upon us astrologically.
I have found several NDEs on my website that provide evidence of veridical
consciousness expansion. What is interesting is how this phenomenon
supports a current theory of consciousness held by a prominent
consciousness researcher which will be explained after presenting these
excerpts from NDE testimony of how consciousness expands after death and
allows for veridical observation outside of the body to take place.
Mellen-Thomas Benedict: "Suddenly I seemed to be rocketing away from the planet on this
stream of life. I saw the Earth fly away. The solar system, in all
its splendor, whizzed by and disappeared. At faster than light
speed, I flew through the center of the galaxy, absorbing more
knowledge as I went. I learned that this galaxy, and all of the
Universe, is bursting with many different varieties of LIFE. I saw
many worlds. The good news is that we are not alone in this
Universe! As I rode this stream of consciousness through the center
of the galaxy, the stream was expanding in awesome fractal waves of
energy. The super clusters of galaxies with all their ancient
wisdom flew by. At first I thought I was going somewhere; actually
traveling. But then I realized that, as the stream was expanding, my
own consciousness was also expanding to take in everything in the
Universe!"
(Mellen-Thomas Benedict)
Virginia Rivers: "The stars seemed to fly past me so rapidly that they formed a tunnel
around me. I began to sense awareness, knowledge. The farther
forward I was propelled the more knowledge I received. My mind felt
like a sponge, growing and expanding in size with each addition. The
knowledge came in single words and in whole idea blocks. I just
seemed to be able to understand everything as it was being soaked up
or absorbed. I could feel my mind expanding and absorbing and each
new piece of information somehow seemed to belong. It was as if I
had known already but forgotten or mislaid it, as if it were waiting
here for me to pick it up on my way by." (Virginia
Rivers)
Thomas Sawyer: "And
in your life review you'll be the universe and experience
yourself in what you call your lifetime and how it affects the
universe." (Thomas
Sawyer)
Jayne Smith: "I
was involved in this tremendous pouring forth of gratitude and joy
and as that was going inside me, this white light began to
infiltrate my consciousness. It came into me. It seemed I went out
into it. I expanded into it as it came into my field of
consciousness." (Jayne
Smith)
Josiane Antonette: "My presence fills
the room. And now I feel my presence in every room in the
hospital. Even the tiniest space in the hospital is filled with
this presence that is me. I sense myself beyond the hospital,
above the city, even encompassing Earth. I am melting into the
universe. I am everywhere at once." (Josiane
Antonette)

Dr.
Timothy Leary: "You
must be ready to accept the possibility that there is a limitless
range of awareness for which we now have no words; that awareness
can expand beyond the range of your ego, your self, your familiar
identity, beyond everything you have learned, beyond your notions
of space and time, beyond the differences which usually separate
people from each other and from the world around them."
(Dr. Timothy Leary)
Rudolf Steiner: "Stage by stage we expand into the planetary spheres, like
light that has been contained within a darkened glass, when
finally uncovered and released goes out into the boundless
universe. The moral disposition we carry over with us allows
or prevents us from moving on in a conscious manner. Seeing how we
expand toward the stars and planets after death, it's no wonder we
look at the night sky in awe with feelings of reverence and maybe
even memories." (Rudolf
Steiner)
Margaret Tweddell: "I
felt caught up in all of this to the very depths of my being. I
felt myself expanding and expanding until I thought, "I'm
going to burst!" The moment I thought, "I'm going to
burst!", I suddenly found myself alone, back where this being
had met me, and he had gone." (Margaret
Tweddell)
Dr. Stanislav Grof's research: "I had my training as a
psychiatrist, a physician and then as a Freudian analyst. When I
became interested in non-ordinary states and started serving
powerful mystical experiences, also having some myself, my first
idea was that it (consciousness) has to be hard-wired in the
brain. I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out how
something like that is possible. Today, I came to the conclusion
that [consciousness] is not coming from the brain. In that sense, it
supports what
Aldous Huxley believed after he had some powerful
psychedelic experiences and was trying to link them to the brain. He
came to the conclusion that maybe the brain acts as a kind of
reducing valve that actually protects us from too much cosmic input.
"So, I don't see, for example,
that experiences of archetypal realms, heavens, paradises,
experiences of archetypal beings, such as deities, demons from
different cultures, that people typically have in these states that
they can be somehow explained as something that comes from the
brain. I don't think you can locate the source of consciousness. I
am quite sure it is not in the brain not inside of the skull. It
actually, according to my experience, would lie beyond time and
space, so it is not localizable. You actually come to the source of
consciousness when you dissolve any categories that imply
separation, individuality, time, space and so on. You just
experience it as a presence. People who have these experiences can
either perceive that source or they can actually become the source,
completely dissolved and experience that source. But such categories
as time and space, localization coordinates, are not relevant for
that experience. You actually have a sense that the concepts of time
and space come from that place. They are generated by that place;
but, the cosmic source itself, the cosmic consciousness cannot be
located certainly not in the material world." (Dr.
Stanislav Grof, from the NDE video,
Life After Death, Episode 8, Wellspring Media)
After hovering around New York, Susan Blackmore floated back to her
room in Oxford where she became very small and entered her body's
toes. Then she grew very big, as big as a planet at first, and then
she filled the solar system and finally she became as large as the
universe. (Susan
Blackmore)
Susan Blackmore believes that consciousness
and NDEs are only secretions of the brain - much like a hallucination. If
she is correct, then NDEs are nothing more than a mass hallucinations. The
problem with this idea is that
unconscious brains do not hallucinate. And
even if unconscious brains could hallucinate, they would not be able to
retain unconscious memories. Dr.
Peter Fenwick, a neuropsychiatrist and the leading authority in Britain on
NDEs, describes how the NDEs are unique to any other state of
consciousness. In the documentary, "Into the Unknown: Strange But True,"
Dr. Fenwick explains:
"In
the NDE, you are unconscious. One of the things we know about
brain function in unconsciousness, is that you cannot create
images and if you do, you cannot remember them ... The brain
isn't functioning. It's not there. It's destroyed. It's
abnormal. But, yet, it can produce these very clear experiences [NDEs]
... an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For
example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don't know
what's happening and the brain isn't working. The memory
systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you
won't remember anything. But, yet, after one of these
experiences [NDEs], you come out with clear, lucid memories ...
This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good
scientific explanation which can explain that fact."
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Peter Fenwick) |
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dreamed, and what if in your dream you went to heaven and there plucked
a strange and beautiful flower, and what if when you awoke you had the
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