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Migrants in Denmark will have to complete 37 hours of work a week to get welfare benefits.

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Migrants in Denmark will have to complete 37 hours of work a week to get welfare benefits.

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European Union

So like a job? If it pays decently and teaches them marketable skills it could work well enough.

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🅱️est 🅱️arty

It's basically a jobs guarantee for refugees in Denmark. Except it doesn't pay a wage, but unemployment benefits that are somewhere around $1000 per month

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John Keynes

I would think that it's possible to create a jobs retraining program that doesn't coerce people into working.

Obviously if they would like to work, employment opportunities should be available.

But what if they're severely disabled, or a stay-at-home parent, or are suffering from a mental health problem that inhibits their ability to work? What if they are ultimately unable to find work due to discrimination, or a lack of demand for their skills? Should they be condemned to poverty?

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Veni, Vedi, Emancipatus

Does this mean they'll immigrants in now? 🙃

!ping DEN

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NATO

I haven't read the proposal fully but i wonder if it will actually succeed. I really hope that we can turn refugees profitable to kill the economic argument against refugees.

But Denmark and fucking up immigration policy NAMID.

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Pshh, you grossly underestimate the populist anti-immigrant sentiments of the succs, have you learned nothing of our xenophobic ways?

Did you know, for instance, that the succs created an entire term to describe the concept of immigrant laborforce competition that they use to campaign with? They call it “social dumping” and is widely accepted discourse and has acted as a basis for lawmaking!

https://da.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dumping

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🅱️est 🅱️arty

lol

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The ping will always get through
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Milton Friedman

Frederiksen's government, in power since 2019, has set a target of zero asylum applications, which have already fallen. Just 851 were received between 1 January and 31 July this year.

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Adam Smith

It's almost as if you need people contributing to the society in exchange for welfare benefits.

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John Keynes

Social Democratic welfare regimes like those of the Nordics have historically achieved this though.

Except it's through policies like generous childcare provisions and retraining (good), rather than coercing people into labour market participation (bad).

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Isn't this completely against the point of welfare though?

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What research is this decision based on?

The plan says it aims to integrate 20 000 people by pushing them to find some form of work, through local government offices.

"It could be a job on the beach picking up cigarette butts or plastic... (or) helping to solve various tasks within a company," employment minister Peter Hummelgaard said.

"The most important thing for us is that people get out of their homes," he added.

Doesn't sound too bad, except you're going to be creating a lot of useless jobs.

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🅱️est 🅱️arty

What research is this decision based on?

It's FMA research

Doesn't sound too bad, except you're going to be creating a lot of useless jobs.

Except it won't even do that. The government thinks it will create 250 jobs in total. And the people impacted by this will still count as unemployed or out of the work force

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Thomas Paine

Doesn't sound too bad, except you're going to be creating a lot of useless jobs.

I wish my municipality hired people to pick up cigarette butts.

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Edmund Burke

This actually seems like a pretty good way to help desegregate Danish society. Too bad they're still pandering to nativist morons with the zero asylum applications policy.

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Is there any evidence that the Danish segregation is not systemic like its American counterpart?

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