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1/ They will spin this as hard as possible, but it is awful news. Up to 15 Israelis who are a week out from the third dose have already died? 88 are very sick? Understand: A) The denominator here will be in person-DAYS - that’s how little time has passed since boosters started.

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2/ The third dose produces a 20x-40x peak of antibodies compared to the second dose. And post-second-dose protection peaks at 90-95% for a few weeks. (It doesn’t last.)These people should be in that window, with HIGHER titers. They should have ~full protection. Why don’t they?

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3/ The bias in favor of vaccinating healthy older people who can tolerate shots that exists for the first two doses is probably even higher for the third. Again, this means the numbers are WORSE than they seem based on the topline ratios.

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Nearly 200 COVID deaths reported in past week, but booster data raises hopes

More than 1.4 million Israelis have received a third dose of the coronavirus vaccine, with early numbers said to show a high protection rate for those with the booster shot

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Average age?

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wtf? 187 out of 2790 is close to 7%, not 0.01%

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Sounds suspiciously like antibody dependent enhancement (ADE).

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Aren’t the % way off in there too?

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If a 92 year old got the 10th shot what is the odds of them living to 93? Too many potential confounders here to draw inferences.

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Over a million got it.

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So when it’s vaccine hospitalizations/deaths, it’s ok to use language like “just” to highlight the low number.

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188 is NOT 0.01 % of 2790 - it’s closer to 7%, 15 deaths is half a percent of 2790 - that seems awfully high.

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Ok - so 1.1 Million received booster - (starting Aug 1 through 8/20) but we don’t know how many from 8/1-8/13 (since they don’t count infection until 7 days after booster) - but at best - 2790 cases since 8/8 (12 days) of boosted patients

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187/2790 is 6.7%!,

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I don't understand the math there..187 (hospitalized) as a percentage of 2790 is 6.7% and 88 (serious symptoms) as a percentage of 2790 is 3.15%

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Why are they vaccinating people who are already sick?

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Also the percentages seem off? Should be ~7, 3, and 0.5 %, respectively. Blatantly trying to mislead and downplay how bad this could be

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Or you just didn't read the actual article. 1.1 million people have gotten a third dose. 2790 of those 1.1 million people have tested positive, and 88 of those 1.1 million are seriously ill, while 15 have died.

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“Fewer than 15 deaths”. 15 out of 2,790 in two to three weeks?

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FFS - it's 15 out of 1.1 million. The 2790 is the number of those who received a third dose who then tested positive for the virus.

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Good god. The article refers to 2 xers as virus carriers... so does that mean we have this now? 3 xers- vaccinated 2 xers - virus carriers 0 xers- the unvaxed

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No, you doofus. The "virus carriers" are the people who got a 3rd dose and then tested positive for Covid.

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Pretty much the same percentage as the number of people hospitalized who contracted covid then. You're figures are starting to proven to be wrong. The MSM and BBC will eventually have to tell the truth, just to survive.!

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If we use the same absolute numbers - 4.44 million deaths divided by 7.9 billion people on the planet, your odds of dying are .05% If that were actually true, we could just do nothing.

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May have been better than doing something just for the sake of doing something. The fatality rate is low and we should have never gone to the extremes we did.

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So, by those published numbers, almost 10% of those receiving the booster have either been hospitalized or are seriously ill.

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1.4M received 3 shots. The percentages are correct, read the source he linked to.

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Why would Israel do this to its own people? I suppose the same could be asked of many countries...but it is especially worrisome in this case, considering that preservation of its people has always been the number one concern.

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Alex, these numbers don’t make sense 1% of 2800 is 28….

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Erm…187 of 2,790 is .06 not .01

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187/2760 is 6+%. Not .01…

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those percentages seem to be wrong or from a larger base (whole population?)

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Where is the .01% calc off? 187 / 2790 is nearly 7%. .01% would be 1.87 million.

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Indeed, something is wrong with the numbers.

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187 from 2798 is 6.7% 88 from 2790 is 3.15% 15 from 2790 is 0.53%

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In the meantime of 6000 patients who actually got covid, many in high risk categories,

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Nurses and nursing home workers must refuse to vax. It will be like the Vietnam Vets who threw away their medals. When those who know the most about vax effects and have most invested in other peoples' care say "No!" it speaks volumes. I, also, will make them fire me.

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Here’s the next paragraph from that story which you conveniently omitted. Srsly, get some help

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How is 187 of 2,790 equal to 0.001%? Now, I'm no math expert, but isn't that more like 0.067%?

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I guess I want more details about the patients because it’s assumed in these stats that these are vibrant healthy people, when, to this point, this is not the people who die or get seriously ill. Big picture, the vaccine is unnecessary for a huge majority.

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The actual percentages are: 187/2790 = 6.7% and 88/2790 = 3.15%

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How is 187/2790 0.01%? What am I missing?

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So the data and the article clearly demonstrate that the booster shots in Israel are incredibly effective at stopping hospitalization and death. Thanks for the fear porn however Alex.

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Are you having a stroke?

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187 hospitalised out of 2790 who received the third dose is 6.7% hospitalised. (Not 0.01%) That doesn't sound good.

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im no math wizz but 187 of 2790 people sounds like more than .001%. is it not 6.7%?

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let's keep the negative turn in Israel in perspective. Israel Vaccination Rates 63% Positive Tests rate 2% Hospitalization* rate 13 per 100K vs Florida FL vaccination rate: 51% Positive Test Rate: 19.9% Hospitalization Rate: 80 per 100K

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