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Did you hear vaccinated people with Delta “have just as much virus in their nose so are just as infectious as unvaccinated”? Turns out vaccinated people have significantly less culturable virus present at the same Ct count They are LESS INFECTIOUS

medrxiv.org/content/10.110

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Add to this the data that vaccinated people also clear the virus much faster Plus it at least halves your chance of getting infected in the first place Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you can’t transmit, but it’s your best bet at protecting the people around you

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· 7月31日

Did you hear vaccinated people are just as infectious as unvaccinated with Delta? This study from Singapore shows not only do vaccines stop you getting sick with Delta, but also clear your viral load MUCH faster Vaccines make you less infectious

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Buenas noticias

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So only marginally lower at the low Cts where the concern is?

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Why did you cut off the right side of the graph?

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A study out of the Netherlands shows while breakthrough infections with Delta have similar peak viral loads (Ct) to that of unvaccinated individuals, viral loads decrease faster in vaccinated individuals AND are LESS infectious than primary infections of unvaccinated individuals.

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Until it's time for booster shot 3, then 4, then.....

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"Despite reduced viral viability, infectivity of individuals with breakthrough infections should not be neglected."

"Further studies are needed to assess whether the decreased infectious virus shedding in breakthroughs also lowers the chance of virus transmission"

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You can be happy about this. Although the previous version of the story was: 'we only allow vaccinated people in to ensure everybody's safety'. Now with Delta we got: 'vaccinated people are infectious, true, but less so'. So what's your guess on the next variant?

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It’s good data. But it’s not peer reviewed yet. Let’s hold out hope that the review process corroborates the findings.

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"Vaccinated individuals can still acquire infection and carry infectious virus."

"Vaccinated individuals should be tested"

And speaking about "rare" breakthrough infections: Health care workers are reagularly wearing respirators

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Repirator as in N95 with the respirator? These allow breath out..fyi

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But this feels like comparing apples to oranges.

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I can’t find IF they filtered out previous infected persons who where vaccinated afterwards. But maybe I overlooked something.

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Data on natural immunity? Too rare to find enough patients?

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Couldn't find the vaccine name in the abstract - which one was it?

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Sounds like good news, but perhaps we shouldn’t use the conclusive phrase, “turns out” for the results of a non-peer reviewed pre-print. Maybe “If this result is validated, …”.

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Cope

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Great news for Healthy individuals but what about the compromised mucosal surface?

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How much "virus in the nose" is needed to transmit? We don't know, right? So how can you determine who is less infectious?

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Sounds promising.

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OMG. For once they believed in the PCR test....

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Is a vaccinated adult less infectious than an unvaccinated child?

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I'm sure this comforts folks in communities with high vaccination and the virus is still spreading

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There is no such useful category as “vaccinated” without acknowledging that category is highly variable based on time since vaccination.

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Good to see this out - so much Twitter and media hype about CTs, so little understanding and communication of biological fundamentals..

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· 8月9日

The human immune system is one of the most brilliant systems in nature. I wouldn't discount it's roll in determining infectious potential... twitter.com/ScienceShared/

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It amazes me that supposed scientists make such unrefined statements. Someone who has been infected is not the same as someone who is naïve.

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You haven’t noted that these data haven’t been peer reviewed yet. The data are interesting but you need a disclaimer. This is a problem when non-scientists report scientific data.

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<media quickly retracts all misleading prior coverage and spends a week highlighting truth> <oh wait, no it doesn't. It's onto the next overly hyped misleading narrative>

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Well it isn't peer-reviewed yet, but yes it is very likely that vaccinated people are less infectious than unvaccinated.

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wanna comment here too?

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grab this

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In general the probability of culturalble virus decrease from unvaccinated to vaccinated individuals with comparable viral loads is between 10% and 30%. That is not significantly reduced. The author also just says reduced, not significantly

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What will data look like in another 4 months, that is the question

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DOSEN'T MATTERS IT'S STILL NOT AS DEADLY AS THA PLAGUE!!!!!!

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Your medical degree is no match for Karen with a Meme!!! Simple advice on the effectiveness of masks in closed environments is met with dishonest memes like this. Remember, this new era is Emotions>Science.

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We need to end the PCR testing, or at least qualify exactly what is being detected. Ct values should be published with “positive” results and standardized across healthcare systems. Currently any detected viral genetic material is cause for panic without further investigation.

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Not peer reviewed yet

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Nothing useful about near term covid is peer reviewed. This comment is everywhere and utterly meaningless.

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Could you please explain the difference between culturable and unculturable virus? And why that’s significant@in terms of contagiousness?

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Thank you for this information!

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