What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

Browsers have different sources of income. Some use your data in ad networks, push promoted content or use other invasive methods to fund their development. We don’t. Here’s how we make the money we need to keep doing what we’re doing.

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Many businesses today, including browsers, are built on the data-collection model, and it’s hard to imagine that companies can survive without selling personal data to advertisers and publishers. 

Yet, at Vivaldi, we don’t track or profile you. Nor do we collect usage data. In fact, we believe that the unnecessary collection of data is dangerous and has no place in your browser. We only try to have a general overview of how many users we have, what OS they run and where in the world they are, taken as a whole.

We make the browser but how you use it and who you are your interests, income, personality is none of our business. Really, it’s our job and responsibility to protect your data

We build Vivaldi with passion and pride – for you. And while we are not in this to “make money”, like all businesses we need to make a living and pay the bills to keep doing what we do – in an ethical way. 

So let’s find out where our revenue comes from. 

Partner deals with search engines

Vivaldi generates revenue from partner deals with search engines. 

Every time you search using one of the pre-installed search engines, you’re helping us grow, one search at a time. Currently, we work with DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia, Startpage, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. 

The only exception is Google – we don’t make money when you search with Google. However, we know that some of you use this search engine daily, so we include it in Vivaldi. 

If you need reasons to switch to a new search engine, take a look at why your choice of a search engine matters.

Partner deals with bookmark partners

Vivaldi also generates revenue from partner deals with bookmark partners. 

When you first install Vivaldi, you get several carefully chosen Speed Dial bookmarks on your Start Page, such as Booking.com and eBay. Others can be Kayak, Start.me, Amazon, AliExpress, Tripadvisor, Airbnb

We receive shared revenue from these bookmark partners. Every time you use one of them, we get a small amount that helps us build an even stronger Vivaldi. 

That said, you are free to replace any of these preinstalled bookmarks with your own. Or you could keep both, as long as what we offer is useful to you. 

Note that we may add bookmarks even if we don’t receive revenue – if we think they’d be valuable to you, we’ll include them anyway. 

If after reading this, you have a sudden desire to re-install the bookmarks you deleted, feel free to use the links above to add them back to your Speed Dial. 

Vivaldi’s Webmail and other services 

The foundation of Vivaldi is all about giving back to our community of users. 

The partner search and bookmark deals not only make it possible for us to build and provide the Vivaldi browser for free, they also let us support more services free of charge – currently, the ad-free Webmail and blogs. 

With Vivaldi Webmail you get your own @vivaldi.net email account hosted in Iceland. Our ad-free blogging platform is a great tool to publish and share your ideas. 

We don’t have a business model attached to the Webmail and blogs and this will remain the same in the future. These services are made possible by the partnerships, affiliations, and revenue we make from the browser. 

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Want to helps us grow Vivaldi? It’s simple. Browse with Vivaldi and support our partners. And tell your friends! The more people that use the browser, the better. 

Thanks for using Vivaldi! 


91 comments

  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    It is a very acceptable model and one of the many reasons, why I use Vivaldi 👍

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  • Folgore101 Moderator last year

    Nice article to share.

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  • WildChild85 last year

    Now I feel bad for searching with google.

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  • extrobe last year

    @WildChild85 said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    Now I feel bad for searching with google.

    I do try and use Bing. But for anything more than a generic search, it's sadly just woeful at finding relevant content. (eg, how to solve a specific technical problem. Irony is, a lot of them are MS services I'm researching, but Google does a better job of digging out the relevant MSFT page)

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  • Chas4 last year

    @extrobe: I have also noticed that with Bing the searches for content on Microsoft's sites are not as good as searches via Google for Microsoft's own site.

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  • Gwen-Dragon Moderator last year

    @Chas4 What these engines suggest depends on your previous searches and of other Google or Bing searchers and your location.
    And they want to show you many commercial links before you might get a useful result.

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  • Chas4 last year

    @Gwen-Dragon Bing (Live Search was the name before that) never has been good for searching for content on Microsofts site from their own search engine.

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @wildchild85: I haven't searched with Google for years. I won't tell what my favorite alternative is, but it supports bangs 🙂

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  • Knuthf last year

    @christian: I search in Google to see if others have searched for similar things - what others do. But when I need the correct answer and I know what I search for, just "where did I read it" - the old Kvasir search, I cannot use Google or Bing or even Yahoo: they all are biased. Quant gives me the answer. I could not care less about everything else - and I wonder who cares? Certainly not in business use!

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @Knuthf said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    @christian: I search in Google to see if others have searched for similar things - what others do. But when I need the correct answer and I know what I search for, just "where did I read it" - the old Kvasir search, I cannot use Google or Bing or even Yahoo: they all are biased. Quant gives me the answer. I could not care less about everything else - and I wonder who cares? Certainly not in business use!

    That's an interesting observation. I did use the Qwant app on my phone for quite some time and I have to say I drew the same conclusion after a few months.

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  • cedricf last year

    @wildchild85: No need to feel bad but if you like google results without google, you can try Startpage which returns google results without the google search engine - and keeps your data safe.

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  • danielson last year

    @WildChild85 - it's a bit odd that start.me uses Google for you to search your bookmarks.

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  • danielson last year

    @danielson - word just in from Start.me: "have now added both StartPage and DuckDuckGo to your search box and set the latter as a default engine."

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  • dmace 8 months ago

    @wildchild85 said:

    Now I feel bad for searching with google.

    @wildchild85:
    I use Ecosia when I don't use Google. Ecosia is based on so it's not the best but it plants trees and it supports Vivaldi. And when I have a precise technical research to do, I use the shortcut "g " for searching with google...

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  • Gwen-Dragon Moderator last year

    @ Dear users here, please spread this article on social media.

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  • verbovet last year

    Thank you! Would be nice to have a partner bookmark to 'smile.amazon.com' in addition to simply 'amazon.com'

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  • kimbooyork 10 months ago

    @verbovet seconding this, I only ever shop 'zon using the "smile.amazon.com" address

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  • Pesala - Ambassador - last year

    A couple of search engines that I use fairly regularly:

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  • Chas4 last year

    9th
    Have mentioned it to a few others, some relatives have started to use it after I mentioned it to them.

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  • jamesbeardmore last year

    Fantastic article! I'm so glad you've posted this! With Vivaldi being proprietary software, I had always had a slight concern in the back of my mind about what your business model is. How can you offer this browser and still afford to exist? A company that produces something as critical and privileged as, say, a web browser or antimalware software, must first and foremost be trustworthy and not have a conflict of interest. This article goes a fair way towards reassuring us, and confirms what I already understood to be true.

    Regarding your links and search engines, I actually don't use many of the ones that are offered, so have removed them, but I always make use of Startpage, Duckduckgo, and Qwant. I have noticed recently that Qwant is actually giving better and more relevant results for me than Startpage, which of course simply provides anonymised G search results. Duckduckgo is normally satisfactory, but for me is never quite as good as Startpage or Qwant - but often more than adequate unless I'm after something particularly obscure or after a very in-depth set of results.

    I haven't actually performed a web search with G or Bing directly in about a decade. I'm glad that my supporting ethical search engines is also supporting an ethical browser.

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  • EmilEichhoernchen last year

    Thanks for this very informative blog post.
    You guys are really doing a great job. Thanks for all the good work for that great browser you make.

    First thing I did after reading it was changing my standard search engine.
    May Vivaldi get rich now
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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @emileichhoernchen said:

    Thanks for this very informative blog post.
    You guys are really doing a great job. Thanks for all the good work for that great browser you make.

    First thing I did after reading it was changing my standard search engine.
    May Vivaldi get rich now

    Thank you! That's all we can ask for 🙂

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  • JoelYoung - Ambassador - last year

    I've been using partner search engines for quite a while now. But now I'm going to start clicking the default bookmarks on a regular basis, even though they aren't something I use. But if it helps keep V on the road, I'm all for it. And besides, something in those bookmarks might end up being useful someday. 🙂

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  • HealingCross last year

    I'm getting on with Ecosia very well and turn to big G only when I'm not satisfied. I haven't used Qwant for a while now, but I still think, it's another good option.

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @HealingCross said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I'm getting on with Ecosia very well and turn to big G only when I'm not satisfied. I haven't used Qwant for a while now, but I still think, it's another good option.

    Qwant is worth a try. I know many using it as their daily search driver, mainly in Europe though. I've tried to live with all of them for a month or more and they are all worthy of being a Google replacement. Remember that the reason you feel Google is the best may be that they know you (too) well and can present you with search results based on all the data you have handed them over the years.

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  • leethray last year

    Would definitely love to see more and more way to support your guys!

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @leethray said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    Would definitely love to see more and more way to support your guys!

    Any suggestions? There are options like Patreon, Flattr and the PayPal button, but we have stayed away from those so far.

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  • leethray last year

    @christian Yes that is also the first thing came to my mind. Please do add this button if you like.
    I can't come up with very good idea right now, but your bussiness mode of earning income by supporting other good but non-mainstream web services is the best way, I think.

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  • Para-Noid - Ambassador - last year

    @leethray The best way is to use V and the default search partners. Promoting Vivaldi on social media and to use word of mouth. As long as you can get away with it tell your coworkers, family and friends about V. You might even show them Vivaldi on your personal laptop and or tablet.

    Methods of promoting Vivaldi is limited only by your imagination.

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  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    Google is undoubtedly the best search engine for results, so I use mainly Startpage because it uses the Google engine

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @Catweazle said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    Google is undoubtedly the best search engine for results, so I use mainly Startpage because it uses the Google engine

    I have to disagree on that one. I would agree 3 years ago but two of the ones we partner with now works better for me than Google does. I have been using one of those for two years now and do not miss Google results one bit.

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  • Chanderton last year

    @christian While i use many different search engines, the lack of search operators/options in most of the engines sadly drives me back to Google. Thinks like defining image search for 8MP transparent photo of the file type PNG, with CC0 license uploaded on a precise date, or related:vivaldi.com, link:vivaldi.com, intitle:vivaldi browser, intext:vivaldi browser, allinanchor:browser, define:browser, Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner filetype:doc (or what filetype suffix you looking for), and of course the life saving Google search command: do a barrel roll, and many more search operator.

    But also the specialized search on: scholar.google.com

    I hope others is catching up, while they don't necessarily need to ”copy”  the exact functionality, it would be welcome to see some development in this area.

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  • t0ken407 last year

    @catweazle: agreed, I've been using StartPage ever since the Snowden revelations, actually. Sometimes I'll use Google Images but other than that, it's all StartPage

    DuckDuckGo is decent but uses Bing/Yahoo/etc as a backend, and the results aren't as good for my usage

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  • napolitf last year

    Great article to get the insights of how Vivaldi's team managed to create, maintain and upgrade this project. Must say I supported google at their very beginning, I liked the way they came into business with innovative ideas but also I helpless witnessed their transformation into the current private-data-predator company who betrayed much of their starting ideals so, when I found out about that old Opera's team launched Vivaldi, I didn't hesitate to start to get rid of google-based services starting obviously with Chrome. Now I can say I'm an almost google-free person (gmail being the sole exception, a huge one, I know) for several years. Regarding search engines, I use Ecosia as the main one, if I can't find what I'm looking for then duckduckgo is my secondary secondary one; if with them I can't find it either then, just then (rare), I type google.com in address bar and rent my soul to the devil for a few minutes.

    Kudos to the developers team!

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  • Komposten Vivaldi Translator last year

    Interesting discussion about search engines. I've been using Ecosia since I first heard about it (via Vivaldi!), but occasionally switch of to Google still. There are two reasons for this:

    1. Better search results for some topics. I could probably use another engine that is based on Google for this, so I'll have to try that.
    2. Google's built-in "widgets". Things like currency conversions, unit conversions, plotting functions, quick weather check, etc. right in the search result pane. Other search engines I've tried doesn't have this (with the exception of Windows 10 search/Cortana, which I use for these things on my desktop).
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  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    I use not only Startpage, I also use the others in the list. Ecosia and DDG often have similar results when using both the same Bing engine. QWant is also interesting, offering some options that others do not have. But in general, at least for my use, SP is the one that best suits my needs in daily use .

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  • mossman last year

    @Catweazle said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I use not only Startpage, I also use the others in the list. Ecosia and DDG often have similar results when using both the same Bing engine. QWant is also interesting, offering some options that others do not have. But in general, at least for my use, SP is the one that best suits my needs in daily use .

    Why are several of you hinting that DDG is mostly based on Bing?! That's not what Wikipedia or DDG themselves say and DDG has always given me better results than the few times I used Bing or Ecosia (which is a front-end for Bing results...)

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  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    I use DDG in my Smartphone

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  • Knuthf last year

    Those of us that manage business should be better at ensuring that you can get paid. We need "something" and I see my responsibility. The DNS is a leap and we should consider "group" or "family" sharing. Just to be able to block MS and Google out, the other is to study who is in, and what the heck is going on. It is answers, and simple questions - why do they have to track? Here is an alternative - thanks!

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  • juliansian last year

    yes i did, i tell my friends to use vivaldi for their default browser. and after read this, i change my search engine to vivaldi's search engine partner

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @juliansian said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    yes i did, i tell my friends to use vivaldi for their default browser. and after read this, i change my search engine to vivaldi's search engine partner

    We really appreciate that! Since we develop Vivaldi based on "one happy user at a time" approach, it is great to see that we are supported "one user at a time" also 🙂

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  • greybeard - Ambassador - last year

    Great insight as to what Vivaldi is doing and what Vivaldi stands for.
    As for Search Engines, I primarily use DDG as I cannot get Startpage to work in the Search engines box. (I use custom settings whch generates a custom URL that V won't accept.) and Bing.
    I have tried many and have found that Bing gives the most :Relevant" results for my searches.
    Cheers.

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  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    @greybeard said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    Great insight as to what Vivaldi is doing and what Vivaldi stands for.
    As for Search Engines, I primarily use DDG as I cannot get Startpage to work in the Search engines box. (I use custom settings whch generates a custom URL that V won't accept.) and Bing.
    I have tried many and have found that Bing gives the most :Relevant" results for my searches.
    Cheers.

    https://www.startpage.com/rvd/search?query=%s&language=auto
    
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  • greybeard - Ambassador - last year

    @Catweazle @Catweazle Not quite what it looks like...

    Plain text:

    https://www.startpage.com/do/mypage.pl?prfh=enable_stay_controlEEE0N1NsuggestionsEEE1N1Ngeo_mapEEE1N1Nwikipedia_iaEEE1N1Nother_iaEEE1N1Ndisable_open_in_new_windowEEE0N1Ndisable_video_family_filterEEE0N1Nenable_post_methodEEE1N1Nenable_proxy_safety_suggestEEE1N1Nconnect_to_serverEEEeuN1NsslEEE1N1Nlanguage_uiEEEenglishN1NlanguageEEEenglishN1Nwt_unitEEEcelsiusN1Nnum_of_resultsEEE20N1Nlang_homepageEEEs/default/en/advanced-search.html
    

    Obfuscated (usually use since it first came out as it was only option):

    https://www.startpage.com/do/mypage.pl?prfe=36c84513558a2d34bf0d89ea505333ad20c7263ea98390a30c1c89932309a9bc2afc9e57aabc8edf745625d261b6aec0
    

    V doesn't seem to like it. It won't put the search string in the SP Search, just a blank Startpage.
    I've reported it. I just bookmark it for now.

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  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    @greybeard said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    @Catweazle @Catweazle Not quite what it looks like...

    Plain text:

    https://www.startpage.com/do/mypage.pl?prfh=enable_stay_controlEEE0N1NsuggestionsEEE1N1Ngeo_mapEEE1N1Nwikipedia_iaEEE1N1Nother_iaEEE1N1Ndisable_open_in_new_windowEEE0N1Ndisable_video_family_filterEEE0N1Nenable_post_methodEEE1N1Nenable_proxy_safety_suggestEEE1N1Nconnect_to_serverEEEeuN1NsslEEE1N1Nlanguage_uiEEEenglishN1NlanguageEEEenglishN1Nwt_unitEEEcelsiusN1Nnum_of_resultsEEE20N1Nlang_homepageEEEs/default/en/advanced-search.html
    

    Obfuscated (usually use since it first came out as it was only option):

    https://www.startpage.com/do/mypage.pl?prfe=36c84513558a2d34bf0d89ea505333ad20c7263ea98390a30c1c89932309a9bc2afc9e57aabc8edf745625d261b6aec0
    

    V doesn't seem to like it. It won't put the search string in the SP Search, just a blank Startpage.
    I've reported it. I just bookmark it for now.

    The link I give is for this box

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  • greybeard - Ambassador - last year

    @Catweazle Yep, done that.
    Also tried unchecking POST since it is on in Startpage. Thought maybe there would be a conflict. Then Saved
    Regular Window or Private Window, both the same.

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  • tydynrain last year

    I fricking love you guys, for so many reasons, with this being right at the top of my list!

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @tydynrain said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I fricking love you guys, for so many reasons, with this being right at the top of my list!

    Love you too. You ain't seen nothing yet. We may not be super fast but we sure listen to you guys. 🙂

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  • Pathduck last year

    @Chanderton said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I hope others is catching up, while they don't necessarily need to ”copy”  the exact functionality, it would be welcome to see some development in this area.

    Yeah, for me there's no beating Google in terms of quality of results. It seems to me most of the other engines I'd like to use instead, like Ecosia, Qwant or DuckDuckGo, return results very similar to Bing, tend to emphasise results from the Microsoft store, and are generally useless for some searches.

    A quick example, I did this some days ago searching for the site of a cloud storage provider.

    Qwant: https://www.qwant.com/?client=brz-vivaldi&q=Jottacloud
    1st MS store. 2nd some useless link aggregator. Then several reviews and articles, and Facebook sites. Google.no for some reason is there. I could not find the actual site even when scrolling far far down. 👎

    DuckDuckGo: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jottacloud&ia=web
    Reviews, Facebook site, Twitter, MS Store, Google Play app. Nowhere is the actual site. 👎

    Ecosia: https://www.ecosia.org/search?tt=vivaldi&q=Jottacloud
    Same as above, MS Store result placed on top, mostly useless results, no actual site. 👎

    Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=Jottacloud
    First result is the site url, including their about, download, prices and features links... 👍

    There's no way these guys can compete with Google without seriously improving the quality of the results.

    And for those concerned about Google and privacy: You don't actually need a Google account to use Google Search. At least for now 😉

    If your browser in addition is set to delete cookies when a tab is closed, there's no way they can "track" you. Yes they can store what people in general search for, and maybe even link your IP to the result, if they actually cared to (which I doubt, what would be the use).

    Problem is people seem unwilling to give up their free Facebook/Google/Yahoo/Instagram/Twitter accounts, and at the same time complaining about them tracking your habits. Well, duh... 🤦♂ Simple solution: Close your social media accounts and stop worrying.

    Well that's my little rant for today 😊

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  • kniddl last year

    @Pathduck I use StartPage because I get Google results without the extensive tracking. For your example Jottacloud, the first is the cloud provider's link as it should be.
    Also tracking goes way beyond having a Google account, that is just voluntary given data but everyone provides data. Also evading by deleting cookies is not a possibility for quite some time now due to various techniques like browser fingerprinting, (misusage of) local storage etc. Additionally Google has DoubleClick, Analytics, Adwords/Ads etc. to track you around the web without you being logged in. I use uBO-Scope to record which third-party ressources are used by web pages and in the last 30 days 73 % used Google Analytics so one can guess that aggregating data to generate profiles is not a matter of just having a Google account.
    I agree that one should not be logged into social media accounts permanently and lament about tracking since assigning data to a single person is way easier like that. But still, this is not a solution against tracking so stop worrying is too simple.
    I hope this does not sound high and mighty. I just want to inform you about tracking (and I did only scratch on the surface 😅 ...).

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  • Cqoicebordel - Ambassador - last year

    In the O12 days, it was said that revenue were ~1$/year/user.

    Can you share the current amount ?

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  • Ayespy Moderator last year

    @Cqoicebordel Per Jon, in a magazine article last year, "We generate revenue of about US$1 per user on average from search deals and from some of the included bookmarks."

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  • olosinno last year

    Not even 24 hours have passed and I am in love with Vivaldi! This browser is everything anyone could want, unless you want data-tracking!

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  • Wolfgang last year

    THanks. That was helpful.
    Always wondered how I could help you without spending money directly
    Wolfgang

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  • Physicoder last year

    This article convinced me to use some search engine in parallel. At lease ecosia!

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  • Zsul last year

    My built-in booking.com bookmark was https://vivaldi.com/bk/bookingcom-en-us, which is always takes me to the US booking.com website, which only offers accommodation within the United States. Since I'm travelling much more frequently to other countries than the USA, it wasn't very useful for me, so I had to change it to www.booking.com simply. Now I learned from this post that there is an other https://vivaldi.com/bk/bookingcom-en-gb link, which takes me to the international site, so I just changed my bookmark to this new address. Please try to avoid directing sponsored bookmarks to the USA only sites, since probably for the most users it will not be as useful as the international sites!

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  • Pesala - Ambassador - last year

    @Zsul What is your Windows locale? I think that the default bookmarks depend on that.

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  • Zsul last year

    @Pesala Well, it was on a CentOS with a Hungarian MATE graphical interface, but I do not know which settings really matters here.

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  • dpj9955 last year

    Thank you for providing this info. I appreciate this business model and will do my best to support it by using the bookmarks and revenue-generating search engines.

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  • fred8615 last year

    I've been meaning to ask this; You said all but Google pay to be included, but do they all pay the same amount, or does one or more pay more to be in Vivaldi? Do they pay every time we search, and do some pay more for that?

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  • Ayespy Moderator last year

    @fred8615 Each contract stands on its own.

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  • fred8615 last year

    @Ayespy said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    @fred8615 Each contract stands on its own.

    Didn't really answer my question. I thought if there was one that paid more, I wouldn't mind using it to help out more.

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  • Ayespy Moderator last year

    @fred8615 That strikes me as proprietary information that the parties would be unlikely to discuss.

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  • fred8615 last year

    @Ayespy Fair enough.

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  • cejno last year

    I feel like you should accept donations also, because there are people who would like to donate these kind of services. For example, I don't mind to donate $5 for Vivaldi Browser.

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @cejno said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I feel like you should accept donations also, because there are people who would like to donate these kind of services. For example, I don't mind to donate $5 for Vivaldi Browser.

    We are looking into ways for people to support us. Feels good to hear that you would be willing to chip in. Donations is an obvious way. What kind of donation system would you prefer? PayPal button and /or maybe Patreon?

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  • Pathduck last year

    @christian said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    PayPal button and /or maybe Patreon?

    Yes please 🙂

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  • LonM Moderator last year

    @christian said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    What kind of donation system would you prefer? PayPal button and /or maybe Patreon?

    I already use patreon for other things so that would probably be easiest.

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  • christian Vivaldi Team last year

    @LonM said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    @christian said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    What kind of donation system would you prefer? PayPal button and /or maybe Patreon?

    I already use patreon for other things so that would probably be easiest.

    Good to know. If others would like to chime in here, I'm game 🙂

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  • Komposten Vivaldi Translator last year

    @LonM said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I already use patreon for other things so that would probably be easiest.

    Some thoughts worth considering:
    More people have PayPal than Patreon (that's a guess, but it's probably true). Also, Patreon requires recurring payments whereas PayPal has both recurring and one-off payments. It's probably best to offer both options (whether that be Patreon + Paypal, or just PayPal).

    Another option is buymeacoffee.com, where I believe both one-offs and recurring payments are possible.

    Patreon, of course, has the added advantage of the possibility of showing stats about number of patrons, monthly earnings from them, etc.

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  • LonM Moderator last year

    @Komposten said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    More people have PayPal than Patreon (that's a guess, but it's probably true)

    To add to this: If you did go down the paypal route don't require people to make a paypal account.

    I know in the past you used to be able to "skip" the paypal account creation step, but maybe that's changed.

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  • Komposten Vivaldi Translator last year

    @LonM said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I know in the past you used to be able to "skip" the paypal account creation step, but maybe that's changed.

    You still can. However, it's usually a very inconspicuous link below every thing else on the PayPal page, with the text "Pay with credit card" or something like that. In my experience most people don't even see that link since it's basically hidden.

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  • mossman last year

    @Komposten said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    a very inconspicuous link below every thing else on the PayPal page, with the text "Pay with credit card" or something like that. In my experience most people don't even see that link since it's basically hidden.

    Well Vivaldi being the guys and gals they are would have no problem explaining all that in any Vivaldi page linking to the Paypal page... 🙂

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  • Komposten Vivaldi Translator last year

    @mossman said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    Well Vivaldi being the guys and gals they are would have no problem explaining all that in any Vivaldi page linking to the Paypal page... 🙂

    Probably. 🙂

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  • cejno last year

    @Komposten said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    @LonM said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

    I already use patreon for other things so that would probably be easiest.

    It's probably best to offer both options (whether that be Patreon + Paypal, or just PayPal).

    I agree with you.

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  • Catweazle - Ambassador - last year

    @christian , what about Dash? (Open Source)

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  • jrd10 last year

    Hi, thank you for Vivaldi Browser and its services.
    I noted how your business model works. Thank you for this transparence. I have to tell you I use the Lilo search engine, a solidary-based search engine which distribute the revenues from my searches to social projects. If needed, I will not miss to use your search engine partners. Thank you again.

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  • ajbozdar last year

    Impressive business model. I wish you a great success.

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  • joz 11 months ago

    I switched to Vivaldi after the latest release with Ads Blocking. So far so great 🙂 And this article is very nice and useful.

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  • aaronmeder 11 months ago

    Interesting article, thank you Christian.

    I wonder however how the financial situation of Vivaldi looks at the moment. Is it already a profitable company or if not, then not by what margin? Do you disclose any information about this?

    I find the path of using bookmark and searches partners a good way to earn revenue...but somehow I would be surprised if that actually covers the ongoing cost of investment that goes into a browser and company of your size.

    Would be nice to have some feedback on it 🙂

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  • marianodaniel - Ambassador - 9 months ago

    What can I say? I have always loved you and always will. ❤

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  • yigit - Ambassador - 9 months ago

    That's why we use and love Vivaldi. 👌

    I think Vivaldi should accept donations or introduce a monthly subscription model (paid membership doesn't necessarily have extra features). These will help the team to develop more powerful Vivaldi products much easier.

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  • ruben1034 9 months ago

    Now I feel bad for using Google . From now I'm gonna start using ecosia

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  • marcusquinn 5 months ago

    Nice, appreciate the transparency. How about a button in the settings to restore or update your Startpage Bookmarks for those of us that deleted and not feel guilty? 🙂

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  • Pesala - Ambassador - 5 months ago

    @marcusquinn Welcome to the Community. Here are a few links for your bookmarks that you may find useful:

    Reinstall Vivaldi as a standalone version, and import the bookmarks from that.

    Snapshot vs Stable

    Install the Snapshot as a Standalone Version so that it does not interfere with your settings for the Stable release.

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  • jofazepa 3 months ago

    @OlgaA what do you, and Vivaldi, think about web monetization approaches like coil.com?

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  • nellaiseemai last month

    What if we use !google on duckduckgo to search on google? I always use bing though and google is always there with the key "g" on vivaldi.

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  • sigitas last month

    After reading this, i have switched search engine from google to bing.

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  • Dancer18 last month

    I like this model very much. Working with Vivaldi give me a similar good feeling like when I changed my OS from Windows to Linux.

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